Actually, I'm a translator, but yes! I have dabbled in Python.:) Does your previous comment mean that you don't like the implicit casting in Python? If so, why? Again, I'm not trolling -- I'm honestly interested in your views.
That's fine, I take no issue with that comment at all. But please at least download and launch an app before criticizing it sight unseen and then complaining that your view isn't worth much.:)
I'm curious -- if the string is, in fact, wholly numeric, then what's the beef? How is this different from implicit casting? Or is implicit casting also wrong?
I'm not baiting, I'm actually confused by your ire.
Are you talking about lotus symphony? I wouldn't bother. I haven't actually tried lotus symphony, but I HAVE to use lotus notes and notes is just terrible.
Dude, Symphony might suck giant donkey balls, or make users so happy they crap rainbows, but either way, since you haven't even tried it, of course your opinion is "relatively worthless" -- I'd even go so far as to say "completely worthless". Sheesh. At least try it out before slagging it.
(And no, I don't care about Symphony one way or the other -- something about this "I've never used it but I'm still qualified to bitch about it" attitude just pisses me off.)
I keep meaning to install the latest version of IBM's Lotus Symphony. The last version I installed impressed me for having resolved some of the issues that prevent me from using OOo -- I'm a Japanese-English translator, so getting accurate word / character counts is vital, and OOo completely drops the ball on this one, but Symphony actually gives me useful count data. I'm not sure about Outline view, but it wouldn't surprise me if Symphony did this better than OOo, too. Plus, Symphony apparently uses a good bit of the OOo codebase, and it reads and writes ODF and MSO files. The downsides are that it's still slow to start (possibly because it's built on top of the Eclipse platform), and I'm not sure about its status as FOSS. It's certainly free-as-in-beer, at least. You might find it's worth taking a look.
(Note that I have no relation to IBM at all. I'm simply a former OOo user frustrated by the glacial pace of improvements, and happy to find an ODF-based alternative that seems to actually work.:)
Thanks for the Micheal Meeks link, that was very informative and in line with what I have observed in following OOo since its 1.0 days -- requirements are too cumbersome, the docs too byzantine, and developers simply can't be bothered to put up with all the extra hurdles that get in the way of contributing. Meeks's analysis shows a decline in the OOo developer community, which seems to be an unfortunate, albeit completely understandable, response to Sun's poor management of the project. I hope at least that some OOo derivative might work out -- perhaps NeoOffice, or IBM's Lotus Symphony.
Sorry Charlie, but the Navigator don't quite cut the mustard. Please read through the (lengthy!) comments posted to Issue 3959, which incidentally has apparently been on the books since before OOo reached version 1.0. I think you'll find that, as useful as the Navigator can be, it still falls short of what people need.
(On the plus side, it seems the devs have finally agreed and understood what folks were clamoring for, and are in the process of massively reworking document views to allow for this. However, the heavens only know how long this might take to make it into a release -- various otherpotentiallyshow-stopping issues are still on the books years later, despite what must be much simpler coding to fix them. Extrapolating, this seems to speak of either not enough resources, or an overly complicated API. The API docs are indeed plug ugly to wade through, whatever the case.)
I had Mandrake installed some time back, and was happy with the package manager they had at the time since it finally dealt with some of the dependency hell issues that Red Hat suffered from. But at some point a software update and server migration went funny (on their end), and the package manager couldn't find the right site to update itself, and since I couldn't be bothered to dig into the internals to fix it (some of us use Linux to do other things:) and a reinstall looked like the easiest course, I opted to jump ship and tried out Ubuntu instead. But I'm curious to see what's happened in the intervening years.
My father-in-law got his undergrad education at Friends University of Central Kansas. No joke. I'd even just settle for a sweatshirt with the big "F.U." in the middle.
(It's even funnier in some respects when you know that "Friends" here refers to the Quakers.:)
My contacts have had no problems opening the Office 2007 files I send them, despite being on older versions of Office.
When MSO 2007 first came out, the relatively clueless IT wannabe at my wife's school had it installed on all computers, mid-school-year, without letting anyone know. Now, all the wailing and gnashing of teeth among the staff about the dumb UI changes aside, the default file format was MSO 2007 -- including new, MSO-2007-only features. Files my wife sent to herself at home, where we only have MSO 2003, sometimes could not be opened. It wasn't until some time later, after folks figured out about the so-called "Compatibility Mode" for saving files, that this particular problem was worked around.
The thread here is about MS abusing its market position, again. The grandparent post, currently marked "3 Insightful", asks for folks to get the Justice Department involved. The parent post, currently marked "1 Offtopic", notes that the government is apparently not interested in actually cracking down on corporate abuses, as evidenced by the $700bn handout to the financial sector. This speaks directly to the concerns of the grandparent post, and is within the bounds of an appropriate response.
So what gives? Is this more of the same old "I don't agree so I'll down-mod" mod abuse? Or has someone really missed the connection between the parent and the grandparent?
Interesting, my brother lost the one online portal he had for his original music when that site tanked. (He's since moved onto MySpace.) I'd wondered what had happened to mp3.com... Thanks for the description.
Are there any other projects of Robertson's that we should know about?
Great. (Though I must admit your final sentence kinda lost me.) It sounds like you're saying that since Finland is more urbanized, they get better service. This still doesn't answer the question of why urban areas in the US still have crap service compared to other countries. The cost of wiring rural areas is a bit of a red herring, as rural areas often don't have very good service anyway (i.e. not a lot has been spent to wire them), and it would be much more cost effective and profitable to wire up the dense urban areas -- but these still lag the rest of the developed world by a sizable margin, in terms of median download speeds.
If you (or any other readers) are interested in download speed comparisons, have a look at the FA in the thread I linked to above -- or just click here for the linky.:)
Yes, the US is big. But that is not the (only / main) reason costs remain notably high and download speeds depressingly low in the US. Another major factor in this equation is the fact that the US is relying on private enterprise to install the infrastructure -- the same private enterprise that actively obstructs any public-sector attempt to fill gaps left by incomplete corporate efforts, and that increasingly owns the content on the other end of the line. Decouple line ownership from line transmission, and decouple line transmission from content ownership, and *then* the US 'net might just catch up to the rest of the world, in terms of costs, transmission speeds, and traffic fairness. Until this comes to pass (and I sure won't hold my breath), the inherent conflicts of interest in such monopolistic cross-ownership will keep the US 'net market from being anywhere close to a "free" market, and any attempt at analyzing it as one is a waste of time.
Minor point, but wouldn't it make more sense to clew up the forecourse, furl it, and lash it to the foresail yard? Removing it entirely to stow it on the bowsprit would be much more work.:)
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... that I can't tell if your post is a joke, or what's actually planned. :-|
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Actually, I'm a translator, but yes! I have dabbled in Python. :) Does your previous comment mean that you don't like the implicit casting in Python? If so, why? Again, I'm not trolling -- I'm honestly interested in your views.
Cheers,
That's fine, I take no issue with that comment at all. But please at least download and launch an app before criticizing it sight unseen and then complaining that your view isn't worth much. :)
Cheers,
I'm curious -- if the string is, in fact, wholly numeric, then what's the beef? How is this different from implicit casting? Or is implicit casting also wrong?
I'm not baiting, I'm actually confused by your ire.
Cheers,
Dude, Symphony might suck giant donkey balls, or make users so happy they crap rainbows, but either way, since you haven't even tried it, of course your opinion is "relatively worthless" -- I'd even go so far as to say "completely worthless". Sheesh. At least try it out before slagging it.
(And no, I don't care about Symphony one way or the other -- something about this "I've never used it but I'm still qualified to bitch about it" attitude just pisses me off.)
Cheers,
I keep meaning to install the latest version of IBM's Lotus Symphony. The last version I installed impressed me for having resolved some of the issues that prevent me from using OOo -- I'm a Japanese-English translator, so getting accurate word / character counts is vital, and OOo completely drops the ball on this one, but Symphony actually gives me useful count data. I'm not sure about Outline view, but it wouldn't surprise me if Symphony did this better than OOo, too. Plus, Symphony apparently uses a good bit of the OOo codebase, and it reads and writes ODF and MSO files. The downsides are that it's still slow to start (possibly because it's built on top of the Eclipse platform), and I'm not sure about its status as FOSS. It's certainly free-as-in-beer, at least. You might find it's worth taking a look.
(Note that I have no relation to IBM at all. I'm simply a former OOo user frustrated by the glacial pace of improvements, and happy to find an ODF-based alternative that seems to actually work. :)
Cheers,
Thanks for the Micheal Meeks link, that was very informative and in line with what I have observed in following OOo since its 1.0 days -- requirements are too cumbersome, the docs too byzantine, and developers simply can't be bothered to put up with all the extra hurdles that get in the way of contributing. Meeks's analysis shows a decline in the OOo developer community, which seems to be an unfortunate, albeit completely understandable, response to Sun's poor management of the project. I hope at least that some OOo derivative might work out -- perhaps NeoOffice, or IBM's Lotus Symphony.
Cheers,
Sorry Charlie, but the Navigator don't quite cut the mustard. Please read through the (lengthy!) comments posted to Issue 3959, which incidentally has apparently been on the books since before OOo reached version 1.0. I think you'll find that, as useful as the Navigator can be, it still falls short of what people need.
(On the plus side, it seems the devs have finally agreed and understood what folks were clamoring for, and are in the process of massively reworking document views to allow for this. However, the heavens only know how long this might take to make it into a release -- various other potentially show-stopping issues are still on the books years later, despite what must be much simpler coding to fix them. Extrapolating, this seems to speak of either not enough resources, or an overly complicated API. The API docs are indeed plug ugly to wade through, whatever the case.)
Cheers,
I had Mandrake installed some time back, and was happy with the package manager they had at the time since it finally dealt with some of the dependency hell issues that Red Hat suffered from. But at some point a software update and server migration went funny (on their end), and the package manager couldn't find the right site to update itself, and since I couldn't be bothered to dig into the internals to fix it (some of us use Linux to do other things :) and a reinstall looked like the easiest course, I opted to jump ship and tried out Ubuntu instead. But I'm curious to see what's happened in the intervening years.
Cheers,
My father-in-law got his undergrad education at Friends University of Central Kansas. No joke. I'd even just settle for a sweatshirt with the big "F.U." in the middle.
(It's even funnier in some respects when you know that "Friends" here refers to the Quakers. :)
Cheers,
...mmm, onions...
The parent post warrants a +1 Funny more than a troll. :)
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They are. And don't call me Shirley.
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The GP here makes the claim:
When MSO 2007 first came out, the relatively clueless IT wannabe at my wife's school had it installed on all computers, mid-school-year, without letting anyone know. Now, all the wailing and gnashing of teeth among the staff about the dumb UI changes aside, the default file format was MSO 2007 -- including new, MSO-2007-only features. Files my wife sent to herself at home, where we only have MSO 2003, sometimes could not be opened. It wasn't until some time later, after folks figured out about the so-called "Compatibility Mode" for saving files, that this particular problem was worked around.
Cheers,
Seriously -- How is the parent post off-topic?
The thread here is about MS abusing its market position, again. The grandparent post, currently marked "3 Insightful", asks for folks to get the Justice Department involved. The parent post, currently marked "1 Offtopic", notes that the government is apparently not interested in actually cracking down on corporate abuses, as evidenced by the $700bn handout to the financial sector. This speaks directly to the concerns of the grandparent post, and is within the bounds of an appropriate response.
So what gives? Is this more of the same old "I don't agree so I'll down-mod" mod abuse? Or has someone really missed the connection between the parent and the grandparent?
Cheers,
Interesting, my brother lost the one online portal he had for his original music when that site tanked. (He's since moved onto MySpace.) I'd wondered what had happened to mp3.com... Thanks for the description.
Are there any other projects of Robertson's that we should know about?
Cheers,
For the /. record, what other projects should we be aware of?
Curious,
Great. (Though I must admit your final sentence kinda lost me.) It sounds like you're saying that since Finland is more urbanized, they get better service. This still doesn't answer the question of why urban areas in the US still have crap service compared to other countries. The cost of wiring rural areas is a bit of a red herring, as rural areas often don't have very good service anyway (i.e. not a lot has been spent to wire them), and it would be much more cost effective and profitable to wire up the dense urban areas -- but these still lag the rest of the developed world by a sizable margin, in terms of median download speeds.
If you (or any other readers) are interested in download speed comparisons, have a look at the FA in the thread I linked to above -- or just click here for the linky. :)
Yes, the US is big. But that is not the (only / main) reason costs remain notably high and download speeds depressingly low in the US. Another major factor in this equation is the fact that the US is relying on private enterprise to install the infrastructure -- the same private enterprise that actively obstructs any public-sector attempt to fill gaps left by incomplete corporate efforts, and that increasingly owns the content on the other end of the line. Decouple line ownership from line transmission, and decouple line transmission from content ownership, and *then* the US 'net might just catch up to the rest of the world, in terms of costs, transmission speeds, and traffic fairness. Until this comes to pass (and I sure won't hold my breath), the inherent conflicts of interest in such monopolistic cross-ownership will keep the US 'net market from being anywhere close to a "free" market, and any attempt at analyzing it as one is a waste of time.
Cheers,
I have one word for you: Finland.
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and I'm not even running any benchmarks. :)
FF3 running with something like 45 tabs open in five separate windows. Whee!
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Oh, but how quickly we forget...
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Q
Why do you think it's called WinCE?
Better get more lube... :x
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fartrader deserves mod points for understanding irony.
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Minor point, but wouldn't it make more sense to clew up the forecourse, furl it, and lash it to the foresail yard? Removing it entirely to stow it on the bowsprit would be much more work. :)
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Boy, howdy! Talk about the Uncanny Valley -- his eyes totally give me the creeps!
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