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Microsoft Programming Contest Hacked and Defaced

davidmwilliams writes "Microsoft followed their major annual Tech-Ed event in Australia with a week-long programming contest called 'DevSta,' to find 'star developers.' While the quantity and quality of submissions suggest a poor turnout, it certainly caught the attention of at least two hackers who left their mark. Here is the low-down on the contest, what happened, by whom, and screen shots for posterity in case it's been fixed by the time you read this. And unless the volume of submissions increase dramatically within the next few hours, someone may be awarded an Xbox for doing nothing more than rewriting the Windows calculator as a .NET app."

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  1. Microsoft catching the attention of hackers? by duckInferno · · Score: 5, Funny

    Nooo.

    This isn't news. If it were, it'd carry a headline like "Microsoft Programming Contest Security Thwarts Hackers" and be about how Microsoft employed some effective security measures without subjecting all applicants to activity-monitoring rootkit DRM and attendees to cavity-searches.

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    1. Re:Microsoft catching the attention of hackers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      This isn't news. If it were, it'd carry a headline like "Microsoft Programming Contest Security Thwarts Hackers" and be about how Microsoft employed some effective security measures without subjecting all applicants to activity-monitoring rootkit DRM and attendees to cavity-searches.

      Cavity search is news to me. Where do I sign up?

    2. Re:Microsoft catching the attention of hackers? by nmb3000 · · Score: 5, Informative

      This isn't news.

      Well, you're right about that at least. The whole thing is a joke. Here is the evidence (consider yourself saved from 3 pages of ads):

      Exhibit A
      Exhibit B

      So somebody found (probably) a SQL injection vulnerability in an obscure Microsoft-hosted site and changed a few submission titles and comments? This is news? It's not like they defaced microsoft.com or anything else even slightly significant.

      They couldn't even do something creative with the hole they found. Kids these days...

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    3. Re:Microsoft catching the attention of hackers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Seriously. Ov3rlord is a pussy.

      FYI, give Barney Frank's theme song, "What, what? In the butt" a listen over at YouTube.

    4. Re:Microsoft catching the attention of hackers? by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The scale of the hack is pretty pathetic. Unfortunately, so is the quality of the entries. A bunch of calculator apps, a couple of twitter frontends, and a few old school arcade clones(and don't forget the cellphone stalker app. I will charitably extend the hope that all the good ideas are going to be submitted in the last few minutes, out of concern that they would be ripped off.

      "All y'all penguins put your flippers on your heads, this abacus has the power of Windows Presentation Foundation!"

    5. Re:Microsoft catching the attention of hackers? by sveard · · Score: 4, Funny

      where is the +1 disturbing moderation??

    6. Re:Microsoft catching the attention of hackers? by D+Ninja · · Score: 1

      subjecting all ... attendees to cavity-searches.

      Wait. I can't figure it out. Why would dentists be at a Microsoft convention?

    7. Re:Microsoft catching the attention of hackers? by Tycho · · Score: 1

      Meh, this hack is probably even worse, both for its general stupidity as an idea and its felonious misuse of metric prefixes:

      http://desktop.google.com/plugins/i/metricclock_2853.html?hl=en

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    8. Re:Microsoft catching the attention of hackers? by perlchild · · Score: 1

      On the other hand, I find it funny that either
      a) Microsoft doesn't use their own security products(the ones I see advertised on slashdot all the time, as going ninja on security flaws)
      b) those same tools don't work as well/aren't as easy to use as advertised

      Please, if you're looking for a star developer, can't you at least hire a regularly-competent sysadmin to run the tools you're advertising?

      Seems to me Microsoft wants to hire one star, but can't be bothered to build infrastructure...

    9. Re:Microsoft catching the attention of hackers? by cjb658 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Someone is trying to hack your contest (Cancel/Allow)?

      I guess even Microsoft employees are just used to clicking 'Allow' now.

    10. Re:Microsoft catching the attention of hackers? by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Meh, this hack is probably even worse, both for its general stupidity as an idea and its felonious misuse of metric prefixes:

      http://desktop.google.com/plugins/i/metricclock_2853.html?hl=en

      FFS(aimed at author of linked app, not parent), if you are going to stick it to the man and boldly challenge the stodgy conventions of horology, at least do it the clock mod(10), not 1 through 10. Seriously, you could lose your geek card for that kind of thing.

    11. Re:Microsoft catching the attention of hackers? by spintriae · · Score: 5, Informative

      Okay guys, what do you expect from a week-long contest for an Xbox? The next killer web browser?

    12. Re:Microsoft catching the attention of hackers? by Bozzio · · Score: 2, Funny

      Wow, that is a terrible Gadget.

      Who the hell writes a metric clock without understanding the metric system?

      This must be written by that 13 year old who painted "Anarchy Rules" on my garage door.

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    13. Re:Microsoft catching the attention of hackers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think the point of this post wasn't to show off teh hack, but to get some lucky slashdotter to win an third xbox...

    14. Re:Microsoft catching the attention of hackers? by rts008 · · Score: 1

      Is that you, Goatse? Even you should have had enough by now!

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    15. Re:Microsoft catching the attention of hackers? by cffrost · · Score: 1

      Cavity search is news to me. Where do I sign up?

      Travelocity or Expedia would be a start.

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    16. Re:Microsoft catching the attention of hackers? by jDeepbeep · · Score: 1

      Okay guys, what do you expect from a week-long contest for an Xbox? The next killer web browser?

      From TFA

      The grand prize on offer includes airfare to Las Vegas, accommodation at the Venetian and tickets to the MIX09 Developer Conference in March next year, along with Visual Studio 2008, an Xbox 360 Elite console pack and a Samsung Omnia mobile phone.

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    17. Re:Microsoft catching the attention of hackers? by WDot · · Score: 1

      As a bonus for the best Windows Mobile, app, you ALSO get two Omnia phones and a 40 inch HDTV. Not bad. If I knew about it earlier I would have totally have whipped up a .NET calculator app. ;)

    18. Re:Microsoft catching the attention of hackers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So while MS tries to entice developers and the customers with a week long programming contest, Slasdhot had a week long bitching contest about MS... errr wait that is everyday.
      The amount of complaining about MS you could have taken that effort and thrown it at a feature complete working Linux desktop, I bet the complaints were more than MS Office lines of codes.

    19. Re:Microsoft catching the attention of hackers? by Windows_NT · · Score: 1

      I thought the calculator was my idea :(

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    20. Re:Microsoft catching the attention of hackers? by duckInferno · · Score: 1

      Wow. The sad thing about the flamebait moderation option, is that only one moderator gets to see the post ;)

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  2. XBox for rewriting calc by Finallyjoined!!! · · Score: 5, Funny

    Nobody wants an XBox that badly do they? :-)

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    1. Re:XBox for rewriting calc by zappepcs · · Score: 4, Funny

      I was going to say that :)
      XBox is hardly enough to motivate me to load windows on any machine I own. Up next, US mint authorized silver certificate reproduction copies of the hundreds of pages of the bail out bill. This authentically signed reproduction can be yours for the small price of $850 Billion US Dollars, paid in three easy payments of (damn, where's a .net calculator when you need one).

      Why don't they get a little more real... say MSDN subscription for life? Yeah, I suppose that is too much to give to a MS developer... sheesh

    2. Re:XBox for rewriting calc by RuBLed · · Score: 4, Funny

      Microsoft said they're going to award lamerdir and ov3rlord each an elite xbox 360 as an appropriate punishment.

    3. Re:XBox for rewriting calc by at_slashdot · · Score: 1, Funny

      ...no, actually the punishment is sending them 2 copies of Vista.

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    4. Re:XBox for rewriting calc by MrNaz · · Score: 1

      Not even Microsoft is that cruel and unusual, surely?

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    5. Re:XBox for rewriting calc by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The prize winner will probably turn an Xbox into a .NET calculator.

      You can probably convert the green and red rings into some manner of LED abacus.

    6. Re:XBox for rewriting calc by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...no, actually the punishment is sending them 2 copies of Vista.

      On "vista capable" laptops.

    7. Re:XBox for rewriting calc by Longwalker-MGO · · Score: 1

      If they are going to send them from the club live system, they will be accussed of cheating and never send them anything.

  3. Microsoft Programming Contest Hacked and Defaced by $RANDOMLUSER · · Score: 5, Funny

    So it's like all their other software then?

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  4. Hacked or just a blog post? by The_Fire_Horse · · Score: 2, Informative

    Screenshots dont look too spectacular - how do we know they didnt just create a bunch of accounts and post shit on their website.

    Or is that what passes off as hacking these days?

    1. Re:Hacked or just a blog post? by MichaelSmith · · Score: 1

      Or is that what passes off as hacking these days?

      Sadly, yes.

  5. Was SELinux enabled? by pembo13 · · Score: 4, Funny

    They really shouldn't be running HTTP daemons without SELinux running. Such services are just too popular a target.

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  6. rewriting the windows calculator? by Punto · · Score: 5, Funny

    What about the guy who found a security hole on IIS and wrote and exploit for it? that sounds way cooler than rewriting calc.

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    1. Re:rewriting the windows calculator? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      What about the guy who found a security hole on IIS and wrote and exploit for it? that sounds way cooler than rewriting calc.

      Easier too.

    2. Re:rewriting the windows calculator? by Fluffeh · · Score: 1

      I can't help but agree.

      You kill two birds with one stone, first it would show Microsoft with a sense of humor, second it would probably give the hacker who hates Microsoft something to do other than hack Microsoft websites - like play Xbox.

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    3. Re:rewriting the windows calculator? by mixmatch · · Score: 1

      like hack Xbox Live.

      There, fixed that for ya.

  7. How about this one... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Interesting story but why not post the one about Microsoft releasing Mono 2.0? (Ars)

    1. Re:How about this one... by Bill,+Shooter+of+Bul · · Score: 3, Informative

      Maybe because Mono 2.0 was released, but not by microsoft.

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  8. Hardly hacked by NeumannCons · · Score: 4, Insightful

    To me it would appear that someone submitted entries with an bogus title and accompanying description. Hacked? Hardly. What surprises me is that no one submitted Viagra programs with accompanying links in the description.

    These aren't the droids you're looking for. Move along.

    1. Re:Hardly hacked by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Existing entries were overwritten with the bogus data. That sounds like it was hacked to me.

    2. Re:Hardly hacked by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I was first introduced to programming in 1985 while in the 7th grade. Part of the fun of the class was guessing the passwords of friends, accessing their source code, and modifying it to do things other than what the assignment was. Even as a 7th grader, we managed to pull off some clever stunts, always with the intent of insulting the teacher or making the student look like an absolute moron.

      So when these idiots manage to compromise a system with Microsoft programming entries on it, what do they do? They splash "Hacked by Overlord" on the page a million times.

    3. Re:Hardly hacked by aka_big_wurm · · Score: 1

      I am with you this site was not hacked, seems like some are so quick to jump on MS about anything. By the way the guy who submitted the article is the same guy who wrote it.

    4. Re:Hardly hacked by thatskinnyguy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      My thoughts exactly. News? no. Waste of time to look at? Definitely. NEXT!

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    5. Re:Hardly hacked by WTF+Chuck · · Score: 1

      Judging from some of the entries, the bogus data would have been more useful.

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    6. Re:Hardly hacked by againjj · · Score: 1

      Microsoft agrees with you. However, the article writer is not so sure.

  9. Google: $10M in prizes, MS: an XBox by EmbeddedJanitor · · Score: 5, Insightful
    http://code.google.com/android/adc.html

    Anyone wonder why only some pissed off script kiddies are playing?

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    1. Re:Google: $10M in prizes, MS: an XBox by spintriae · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Google is counting on participants to develop killer apps for their Android platform. Android's success depends on the results of that contest. I've contributed to it and I know people who have spent months and lots of money developing apps for that contest.

      The Microsoft thing seems to be a week-long "speed hack" aimed at a small audience just for fun. Hardly the same thing. Oh, but this is /. and the subject is M$, so let's all foam at the mouths and spew venom all over ourselves.

    2. Re:Google: $10M in prizes, MS: an XBox by narcberry · · Score: 2, Funny

      Google doesn't have an IDE with a built in application creator wizard.

      An Xbox sounds pretty cool if all I have to do is

      Project -> New
      Select "calculator" from list, next
      Select radial button "scientific", next
      Checkbox a few skins and an include contentless help-pages, next
      Hit Create
      Run it, accept the EULA

      Hello Xbox.

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    3. Re:Google: $10M in prizes, MS: an XBox by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's still a pretty small prize for spending even a whole day on.

      I count myself as a pretty good developer, and I have more interesting work problems than this, and would have earned plenty to buy another Xbox in a days worth of work. And then you still would have to actually win the competition.

      Instead I might spend time on a fun competition like this: http://nonoba.com/developers/contests/multiplayerapikickoff

      At least with Flash everyone could easily see my product, and it would hopefully get out to several hundred thousand people if it's good enough.

    4. Re:Google: $10M in prizes, MS: an XBox by Monkey-some · · Score: 1

      200 available hours and 90% of their entries are a bunch of calculators ? And they probably used the "+,-,%,..." available operands And yeah we bash M$ because they usually promote BAD computer science/engineering. Good if you want to keep your job (your windows stuff is always going to be buggy but the management like it"

    5. Re:Google: $10M in prizes, MS: an XBox by NovaHorizon · · Score: 1
      is only thing having me foaming at the mouth is that out of all of my tech friends.. NONE OF US KNEW ABOUT THIS CHALLENGE!!!

      I'm really poor.. I could use a few things to sell on eBay :(..

    6. Re:Google: $10M in prizes, MS: an XBox by nschubach · · Score: 1

      Damn it, I just got done cleaning up all the venom.

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    7. Re:Google: $10M in prizes, MS: an XBox by jipn4 · · Score: 1

      Google is counting on participants to develop killer apps for their Android platform

      Yes, whereas Microsoft is counting on their monopoly for the success of their Windows platform.

      Sooner or later that will stop working, though.

  10. Lame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If you want a prize, why not come up with a hack that releases OEMs from their contractual obligation to pre-load Windows? Or maybe a hack that dis-allows Microsoft from counting the sale of a Dell server with Linux installed as a sale of a Windows license. How about a hack that gives the ISO people a spine and some cojones?

    Now, those would be worth a prize.

    1. Re:Lame by X0563511 · · Score: 1

      Now, those would not be hacks. Feats worthy of praise they would be, but they would not be hacks.

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    2. Re:Lame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the Year 2000 called. You can keep its joke, it was tired of it then.

  11. XBox for relaxation. by Ostracus · · Score: 1

    "Why don't they get a little more real... say MSDN subscription for life? Yeah, I suppose that is too much to give to a MS developer... sheesh"

    Maybe because developers like to get away from WORK now and then.

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    1. Re:XBox for relaxation. by VGPowerlord · · Score: 1

      An MSDN subscription also nets you stuff like copies of Windows itself.

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    2. Re:XBox for relaxation. by bickerdyke · · Score: 1

      But I'd still call it usefull.

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  12. Let's See... by DougF · · Score: 3, Funny

    If I write an app for Apple's iPhone, I run the chance of being denied, but I could make lots of $$$. If I write an app for MS, I could get some lovely departing gifts. Tough choice.

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    1. Re:Let's See... by I'm+not+really+here · · Score: 1

      Option C. Write for Android - could make millions, could make nothing, but hey, there's less competition and almost no restrictions!

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  13. Looks like bunch of nonsense posts by figleaf · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Hacked would be a site defaced.

    This looks like someone made some random submissions.

    1. Re:Looks like bunch of nonsense posts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      According to TFA, those were valid contest submissions that were subsequently defaced. Not sure whether that's true or not though.

    2. Re:Looks like bunch of nonsense posts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Well, if you read the article, you'll see that it's not just bogus posts, they've apparently actually managed to alter existing submissions, which is how they became the top submissions. Not nearly as significant as actually defacing the site entirely, but certainly more impressive than just making fake posts.

  14. Microsoft programmers....stars? Too funny... by subnomine · · Score: 5, Informative

    I speak from about 15 years experience at multiple companies and not bias that the more "Microsofty" the programmer is, the worse they are.
    The current project I am on is full of the Microsoft way of doing things. And get this:
    We have a Linux server and Windows client, and they designed a Windows Registry as an interface to the database on Linux. They are having piss-poor performance due to many design issues related to this thing. I should probably post it to Daily WTF. I mean WTF indeed.

    Who wants to be a Microsoft Star!! Wooohoo!

    1. Re:Microsoft programmers....stars? Too funny... by Seakip18 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Please do! As a young programmer starting out, I keep an eye on Daily WTF for what NOT to do. Well, most of the time anyways.

      The fact they use the registry as the interface makes my eye twitch.

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    2. Re:Microsoft programmers....stars? Too funny... by cjb658 · · Score: 2, Funny

      I speak from about 15 years experience at multiple companies and not bias that the more "Microsofty" the programmer is, the worse they are.

      Works the same for users, too.

    3. Re:Microsoft programmers....stars? Too funny... by Liquidrage · · Score: 2, Insightful

      So what about the /. poster that spends post after post in meaningless MS stories, that if they actually ready them, aren't even stories?

      What I don't get is, as intelligent people (which is relative), don't some of you feel the least bit ashamed at the quality of the anti-MS stories here? There is plenty of legit bashing to do. But /. has fallen to the level of posting stuff like this.

      /. consistently has misleading headlines on MS stories, not to mention sensationalism. I just don't understand how people that are throwing stones can tolerate the childish posts, and poor and misleading stories that are the sign of any /. related MS article.

    4. Re:Microsoft programmers....stars? Too funny... by RulerOf · · Score: 2, Funny

      they designed a Windows Registry as an interface to the database on Linux.

      So wait, let me get this straight... these people know both Windows *and* Linux so well that they wrote a Windows Registry for Linux, rather than cutting the bullshit and using SQL?

      That sounds very... irresponsible.

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    5. Re:Microsoft programmers....stars? Too funny... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      they are having piss-poor performance due to many design issues related to this thing. I should probably post it to Daily WTF. I mean WTF indeed.

      Indeed. No wonder they no longer work at Microsoft.

    6. Re:Microsoft programmers....stars? Too funny... by akoltz · · Score: 1

      The fact they use the registry as the interface makes my eye twitch.

      The fact that you take an anti-MS post on /. at face value makes me sad for humans.

    7. Re:Microsoft programmers....stars? Too funny... by subnomine · · Score: 1

      Yes, "irresponsible." You have a way with words!

      Well...This is more of a hardware shop with Windows experience and the lead engineer doesn't know SQL. The database didn't need performance (until now).
      Updating each and every single variable means connecting to the database, authenticating, starting a transaction, committing, and disconnecting. Once per variable.

    8. Re:Microsoft programmers....stars? Too funny... by Bodrius · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I'm sure you have other reasons to dislike it - but that sounds like a design mistake that has little to do with the 'registry-like' interface.

      I've seen the same 'feature' (commit on-change) on a lot of other naive user interfaces for remote database storage - web forms, spreadsheets, desktop clients... Typically the product of good intentions, and very optimistic assumptions about the usage.

      There's nothing magical about a 'registry-like' tree that makes explicit batch updates impossible - or on other interfaces that make them auto-magically implemented.

      Unless your 'user interface' is to force the user to type a SQL update statement - then you can't go wrong on that (the user, on the other hand...).

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    9. Re:Microsoft programmers....stars? Too funny... by deniable · · Score: 1

      Would you care to explain what you mean by "Windows Registry." You're not talking about the actual Registry or hive files are you? It would be possible to build a service that monitored the local hive and replicated the changes to a back end DB. It could get ugly, but would make for an interesting product.

      If you simply mean a tree-like data structure then I can see what you're talking about, but I've seen that kind of retardation in Unix software as well. It's not a Microsoft only phenomenon.

      If they were real MS programmers they would have simply looked for an ODBC/ADO/LINQ/(whatever they call it this year) interface to the DB and been happy to not know anything about the back-end. These guys sound more like they don't know either end and are relying on MS tools being 'easy' to cover their inexperience.

    10. Re:Microsoft programmers....stars? Too funny... by ChienAndalu · · Score: 1

      I don't think you could use SQL that well - I mean, the registry is hierarchically organized, so you would have to use a hierarchical DB like *shudder* LDAP.

      OR you just could plain text files and store them in specified directories.

    11. Re:Microsoft programmers....stars? Too funny... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thank you for specifying you were not biased. Before I read that, I was a little worried you might be.

      Look, I don't work for Microsoft, but I know that the top 3 people in my class got employed by Microsoft and I'm studying engineering at the most reputable engineering school in Canada. Now you might say that doesn't mean much as to their developer ability, but i can (and so can the dean) tell you that these guys are brilliant. And even if out of all these guys Microsoft hires only 10-20% become really good developers, trend setters or what have you, they have a better chance of doing so than Joe Blow who graduated with the class average, at an average institution. Besides, Microsoft interviews are not exactly geared towards the incompetent.

    12. Re:Microsoft programmers....stars? Too funny... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This makes absolutely no goddamn sense. How do you design a "Windows Registry ad an interface to a Database on Linux"?

    13. Re:Microsoft programmers....stars? Too funny... by eagee · · Score: 1

      >>>"Microsofty" the programmer is

      I think what you're trying to say is the more a programmer buys into *hype* the worse they are.

      I work in an Microsoft shop, I don't especially like using linux, and I enjoy the luxuries M$ products have to offer. That doesn't make me a bad programmer.

      What makes someone a bad programmer is if they make design decisions based on what sounds cool instead of what makes sense (or if they put that stupid "_" in front of my member variables instead of using "this." because M$ said so ... sorry, pet peeve)

      Microsoft doesn't make money unless they hype up new technologies as "the next best thing". The truth is, as far as computer technology goes - we're really still in the stone age.

    14. Re:Microsoft programmers....stars? Too funny... by Seakip18 · · Score: 1

      Oh sorry. Didn't see you there. You must be new.

      There has nothing to with MS, rather how, in my limited experience, coders would use the registry as the preferred interface. While I guess I could have been more clear is qualifying what I thought about Microsoft, this has nothing to do with them, but rather bad design. I think the OP had the same idea, though he clearly shows no love for MS.

      If you get sad from internet post, maybe this isn't the place for you.

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    15. Re:Microsoft programmers....stars? Too funny... by subnomine · · Score: 1

      They chose to mimic whatever C++ interface they had on Windows for the Linux side (Postgres). Yes, it builds a tree (with MS nomenclature: "HKEY"...).

      These are smart guys who need a little more experience with software architecture and modularity. I agree that bad architecture is not just a Microsoft phenomenon.

    16. Re:Microsoft programmers....stars? Too funny... by subnomine · · Score: 1

      There's a lot of truth to that.

      Windows has always been more accessible to the programmer wanna-be's who learn the hype.
      Of more than a dozen MS programmers I was considering when I made my comment, all but a few were fired for incompetence. Those few were NOT the ones chanting "DCOM, DCOM, rah rah rah!" and claiming they can fix anything with a Microsoft solution.

      UNIX programmers can suck too. Some like to shout about "Open Source" but they don't talk the same level of smack as the guys who think Bill Gates is behind them.

    17. Re:Microsoft programmers....stars? Too funny... by eagee · · Score: 1

      DCOM *shivers* One of my first jobs had a fellow obsessed with it. I got a lot of lectures about how, "DCOM is the future of programming!" (Which made me wonder if this was really what I wanted to do)

      Just for fun, let's go through some of my other favorite M$ cheers and their consequences:

      "DDE, DDE, rah rah rah!" -> "Crap our technology's been obsoleted..."

      "OLE/COM, OLE/COM, rah rah rah!" -> [New guys comes in]"I can't maintain this drivel!!!"

      "ActiveX, ActiveX, rah rah rah!" -> "Damn that service pack 2!"

      "Notification Services, rah ra..." -> "Hey! We're only on version 1.3! Daaaaamn you M$! >:["

      Usually, the simple solutions are the best, and that almost never involves M$'s latest and greatest. There's a guy two cubes away who can't wait to use LINQ in his next project *siiiigh*. They nev-er-learn-they-nev-er-learn.

    18. Re:Microsoft programmers....stars? Too funny... by badkarmadayaccount · · Score: 1

      Idea - could you wire up the windows registry to a small near invisible database, so you could easily get rid of the cruft from viruses and uninstaled apps, or would that be more like a SVN server...?

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  15. Microsoft Programming Contest Hacked... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    1. Microsoft Programming Contest Hacked and Defaced.
    2. Story posted to Slashdot and nobody cares.
    3. Posting Anonymously to protect my kharma - priceless.

  16. LEGO by Finallyjoined!!! · · Score: 1

    Since production started (of modern ABS bricks) it's estimated total production has only reached 350 billion.

    Now put your $850 billion dollars in context, if it was in $1 bills, how long would it take to print the little buggers. :-)

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    1. Re:LEGO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's not like they're shot out of a printer; they're pressed en masse. (Besides, you just have to tell people you owe them $850,000,000,000 and you can completely skip printing new bills.)

  17. Well... by Puffy+Director+Pants · · Score: 1

    It's no Atari Computer Camp, that's for sure. For one thing, I heard there was actually a female applicant.

  18. Obligatory by zooblethorpe · · Score: 4, Funny

    Not even Microsoft is that cruel and unusual, surely?

    They are. And don't call me Shirley.

    Cheers,

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    1. Re:Obligatory by Rayban · · Score: 4, Funny

      Looks like I picked the wrong week to ditch C#.

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    2. Re:Obligatory by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Just wanted to let you both know...we're all counting on you back here.

    3. Re:Obligatory by Legion_SB · · Score: 1

      Looks like I picked the wrong week to ditch C#.

      If it took you a week, you weren't doing it right.

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    4. Re:Obligatory by tangent3 · · Score: 1

      I've always wondered why there's no equivalent of std::victor or java.util.Victor in C#

    5. Re:Obligatory by XDirtypunkX · · Score: 1

      There is, it's called System.Collections.Generic.Lust.

    6. Re:Obligatory by tangent3 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Oh, right. It's Oveur at System.Collections.Generic.List

    7. Re:Obligatory by jannesha · · Score: 1

      ...thank you, that was a pleasant distraction. For anyone curious:

      http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080339/quotes

  19. Oh come now, mods, have a sense of humor! by zooblethorpe · · Score: 1

    The parent post warrants a +1 Funny more than a troll. :)

    Cheers,

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  20. Ask this guy... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    > Cavity search is news to me. Where do I sign up?

    Ask Mr. Goatse. I think there's a .NET version of it now, too!

  21. Which app would you pick off that list? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    I want to see the calculator wins, it would be damn funny if the STAR application is the calculator.

  22. Re: Disturbing? Nah. by TaoPhoenix · · Score: 4, Funny

    He clearly means Dentistry software. Manage the patient's records, search cavities...

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  23. Re:Let me be the first to say by jcuervo · · Score: 1

    I'm using the INTERNETS!

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  24. Anonymous Coward by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Microsoft probably just hired some hackers to deface the site to generate enough publicity to get it onto /. to attract some real talent so they could save face by getting a submission better than Windows calculator. Don't give in during the last few hours.

  25. Who knew this contest was happening? by zaffir · · Score: 1

    I had now idea this contest was going on. I'd have been happy to enter. Throwing together something small, but better than a .Net calculator, for a chance at a free XBox? Absolutely!

    Way to go, Microsoft Marketing dept!

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  26. So you think yo can dance? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Another cheesy reality tv contest coming to you soon.. "So you think you can hack ?"

  27. Re:Let me be the first to say by dhalgren · · Score: 5, Funny

    In other news, Alanis Morissette is found posting on Slashdot under the name 'db32'.

  28. Calculator by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's about time that someone rewrote that damn calculator. Now can finally add it to the new naming scheme:

    Windows Live Calculator

    What happens next? ...

    Profit!

  29. As for Reading TFA... by YenTheFirst · · Score: 1
    It's more than JUST an xbox.

    The grand prize on offer includes airfare to Las Vegas, accommodation at the Venetian and tickets to the MIX09 Developer Conference in March next year, along with Visual Studio 2008, an Xbox 360 Elite console pack and a Samsung Omnia mobile phone. Runners up win various combinations of Visual Studio, Xbox 360 Elite packs and Wireless Entertainment Desktop 8000 keyboard and mouse combos.

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  30. HACKED BY BENJYMOUSE by benjymouse · · Score: 4, Insightful

    HACKED BY BENJYMOUSE HACKED BY BENJYMOUSE HACKED BY BENJYMOUSE There, now I "hacked" slashdot the very same way. The "hacked" and "defaced" site is nothing more than submissions (like comments on slashdot) with "HACKED BY OVERLORD" text. No JavaScript injection, no SQL injection, no nothing. Some medias will go to any length to capture traffic. sheesh.

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    1. Re:HACKED BY BENJYMOUSE by Patrik_AKA_RedX · · Score: 3, Funny

      The Headlines:
      A hacker known by the name BENJYMOUSE has today been arrested for defacing a popular news site. The 2 SWAT teams were deemed necessary as hackers are known to be armed and dangerouse and usualy in company of muslim terrorists. Only 2400 rounds were fired and a mere 25 bystanders were killed. Rumors that the terrorist-hacker was playing a loud videogame instead of firing his as yet undiscovered arsenal of weapons show that these terrorists are not just evil, but also lazy.

      The hacker will be put on trail for possesion of illegal invisible weapons of mass destruction.

    2. Re:HACKED BY BENJYMOUSE by I.M.O.G. · · Score: 3, Informative

      "F-" ...I'm concerned, please see me after class!

      Just kidding... But actually, its slightly more impressive than you noticed. They modified existing submissions thereby appearing as the top submission. While not groundbreaking, its more than simply posting garbled messages to a public board.

    3. Re:HACKED BY BENJYMOUSE by Synjyn · · Score: 1

      It seems any tiny bit of news can be sensationalised into something to grab headlines these days

  31. Re:mhm by narcberry · · Score: 3

    The screenshots look like these "hackers" defaced the site by ...

    *drum roll* ... posting to a forum!!!

    OMG /. HACKED BY NARCBERRYHACKED BY NARCBERRYHACKED BY NARCBERRYHACKED BY NARCBERRY

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  32. Swatch Internet Time by tepples · · Score: 2, Informative

    Who the hell writes a metric clock without understanding the metric system?

    Swatch, for one. And the Chinese before them.

    1. Re:Swatch Internet Time by Bozzio · · Score: 2, Informative

      There doesn't seem to be any abuse of the metric system there.

      Look at the description of the Google Gadget. The author has no idea how metric prefixes work.

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    2. Re:Swatch Internet Time by ShecoDu · · Score: 1

      Are you by any chance the creator of the "metric clock" Tycho mentioned?

      Please be aware that the metric system uses decimal units, if something uses decimal units, it doesn't mean it uses the metric system.

  33. Captain Obvious by mcbutterbuns · · Score: 1

    My favorite submission was posted by Captain Obvious and his uber cool "windows media radio 4 windows mobile" application.

    Description:
    The past: Listening mp3s
    The future: Listening streaming music.



    Watch out Apple!

  34. just submitted to the slashdot story queue by commodoresloat · · Score: 3, Funny

    commodoresloat writes "Slashdot followed their major annual asteroid-collision article with an article called 'Microsoft Programming Contest Hacked and Defaced.' While the quantity and quality of posts suggest a poor turnout, it certainly caught the attention of a hacker named 'BENJYMOUSE' who left his mark. Here is the low-down on the slashdot post, what happened, by whom, and screen shots for posterity in case it's been fixed by the time you read this. And unless the quality of posts increase dramatically within the next few hours, someone may be awarded mod points for doing nothing more than rewriting the *BSD troll as an anti-M$ post."

  35. Re:Let me be the first to say by Rob+Kaper · · Score: 1

    Alanis Morisette is either very stupid (not a single line in her song is about irony) or very clever (for calling a song about sarcasm Ironic).

  36. Here come da Judge! by rts008 · · Score: 1

    "Why don't they get a little more real... say MSDN subscription for life?"

    A life sentence? Wouldn't 10 to 20 with chance of parole be more in line with a first offense of this nature?

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  37. Innovation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "And unless the volume of submissions increase dramatically within the next few hours, someone may be awarded an Xbox for doing nothing more than rewriting the Windows calculator as a .NET app."

    What's wrong with that? That's 'Innovation' in the post-Microsoft world. ;)

  38. Re:In other news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    > When asked to comment on Gobi, one volunteer replied, "It is just like jumping out of an airplane with your parachute on fire!"

    Fixed that for ya.

  39. DevSta? Seriously? by paniq · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This is what we need in the programming world, more developers with an ego complex. "Star developers", way to go, when a part of skill lies deeply in being able to communicate and organize oneself in a community or company.

    "Star developers" sounds like these people need three flatscreen monitors, a massage chair and a personal makeup assistant to be happy.

    The reason why no serious programmers will turn up at this event is the same reason, why I'm not at this event: I am busy doing serious, real life code. I have no time for marketing shams.

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    1. Re:DevSta? Seriously? by Jesus_666 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Now that's just mean. I happen to be a star developer and I tell you it's hard work. If you don't balance mass vs. density, hydrogen vs. deuterium vs. tritium vs. helium etc. just right you end up with something that blows up or goes brown dwarf in a couple dozen myriads alredy. Developing a solid (ha!) star that keeps burning for millions of years (without the spectral lines creeping out of spec, to boot) is pretty difficult, really.

      Star development really should become an engineering job and I don't think that Microsoft will be happy with talent they just pick up from the street. That's just going to lead to mediocrity at best.

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    2. Re:DevSta? Seriously? by i.r.id10t · · Score: 1

      Nah, stars are easy. Its the planets that take work - ever seen what it takes to make a good fjord or two?

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    3. Re:DevSta? Seriously? by Jesus_666 · · Score: 1

      If you think fjords are easy you never had to tweak a star's chemistry to get the protuberances just right. That's not to say a good fjord doesn't deserve recognition, though.

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    4. Re:DevSta? Seriously? by paniq · · Score: 1

      Ah, a connaisseur of Lem :)

      Point taken. :>

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  40. So, how are those sour grapes? by SmallFurryCreature · · Score: 1

    If you are not good enough to get the best work enviroment possible, then well, that sucks for you.

    I doubt you are even a decent developer anyway, flatscreen monitors? Hello? Can you even buy CRT's anymore that are cheaper then totally flat LCD's.

    If your boss did a cost/benefit study he would quickly realize that a good chair and interface pays for itself. A good chair allows you to remain comfortably seated for longer. Same with a quiet office, more hours spend coding means more money made. Three screens isn't actually that expensive since they typically last several years. I personally only use dual screens and it saves me a lot of time, since I can have all windows I need open at once without switching and have all the info available at once. If I am on a laptop I notice a reduction in speed as I have to spend time tabbing between windows to get all the info I need.

    The cost? About a 1000 euro more. Compared to my salery and general costs of employement, office space, parking space, insurance and everything else it is trivial. So a new decent computer for a developer costs say 4000 instead of a budget dell for 400. Big deal. Hiring a good developer costs FAR more. Loosing a good developer even more.

    For fun I keep track of job offers, sadly most companies cannot even begin to afford me because they just don't value developers. We are NOT secretaries or accountants. We are skilled craftsmen and they expect the best and can get it if they got the balls.

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    1. Re:So, how are those sour grapes? by paniq · · Score: 1

      No offense. It's three flatscreens and a _massage_ chair where it becomes ridiculous.

      Congratulations on nobody being able to afford you. Let's see how affordable you become when you lose your current job - which you never will, because you are a "skilled craftsman", like the rest of your team.

      Yours truly,
      the secretary with a 15" CRT, sitting on a pole.

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  41. Hacked by... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    HACKED BY OV3RLORDHACKED BY OV3RLORDHACKED BY OV3RLORDHACKED BY OV3RLORD...

  42. Damn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's good to be a DevSta!

  43. Re:mhm by Reece400 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Lame hack, but much more lame trying to pass this as news......

  44. Re:Let me be the first to say by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    don'tcha think?

  45. !hacked by DarkTitan_X · · Score: 2, Funny
    I had my organization's site "hacked" the same way three weeks ago.

    Had I known it were news, I'd have contacted local news media rather than the modest response of contacting my web hosting provider and asking that they patch the vulnerability in their SQL server.

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  46. Re:Hackers should be shot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So the moderator somehow thinks that hackers should be lauded?

    The moderator is a troll.

  47. Microsoft's Response by Quantus347 · · Score: 1

    http://www.itwire.com/content/view/21044/53/ Microsoft has responded with their side.

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  48. Chickenshit by c0d3r · · Score: 1

    After working for Microsoft, I had a lowered respect for them, but now after this kind of chickenshit stuff, I have new found respect for them (unless its an inside job). Its creating thats challenging, destroying is easy. Most any engineer won't crack, because they create, not destroy, when in fact they can cause the most havoc, but its not worth it due to integrity, and the fact that its too easy.

  49. Web Browser control rules all! by TravisO · · Score: 1

    I just installed VS2008 and IE8 beta, dragged the "Web Browser" control on to a form and threw in a quick back button.

    Now where's my Xbox?

  50. $200 prize? I'll pass by TravisO · · Score: 1

    Well when you can buy one for $200 then factor it the hourly rate of a (good) programmer, it's not exactly a good time investment now is it?

  51. Re:mhm by rpmayhem · · Score: 1

    More specifically, I think they posted a bunch of bogus entries to the contest. Wow. So original and daring. We should just quit the internet now.

  52. Sure contest winner: by david.peace · · Score: 1

    write a bat script that wipes out windows and installs Linux. Offer it as a security patch.

  53. Injection by DaVince21 · · Score: 1

    Injecting ASP code into an user submission field? Don't make me laugh. These "hackers" are more like script kiddies trying to act cool.

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  54. Buried as innaccurate.. Oh wait! by taosk8r · · Score: 1

    This isnt digg, my bad!

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