Click 'cancel' if you are not sure about what you are downloading
In which case I wouldn't be able to download anything. How can I be sure unless I can see the URL? (looking at the status bar doesn't help since in many websites, the link you click is not a direct link to a file - it generates the download from some other place)
downloading a trojan isn't going to be that bad - as long as you don't then try to run it.
If I knew it was a trojan, I wouldn't download it in the first place.
Additionally, who reads news groups anymore?
That is not a fix. There are people who read newsgroups.
This is irrelevant on a Windoze machine because it is not truely multi-user
How exactly is that going to help me not lose any sleep?
"caste-insipired racism, sectarian violence, a prostitution industry that puts most of Asia to shame and one of the highest AIDS rates in the world. Not to mention the recent tsunami victims."
Apart from everything else, what on earth has the tsunami got to do with caste and violence problems? And how did this person declare hte space program to be of 'dubious value'.. heard of geo sensing, farming, mining and a zillion other industries in India that depend on the space program?
" Do you have to be a design expert to realize that going out of your way to make your text extra small might not be a wonderful idea? I must be a fucking genius!"
Calm down buddy:-) About the genius part, well I'm not sure, since you entirely missed my point. What I was trying to say was that do not discount what a person has to say just because his font size is too small.
My advice for you: 1. Do not jump to conclusions 2. Try to argue without using expletives and sarcasm.
" I would never listen to technical advice from someone who puts:
body {
font-size : x-small;"
And you expect people to take you seriously when you care more about the font size than the content? Some people may not be design experts, but they may have interesting stuff to say.
correction again: maybe we should then interpret "or above" as the next date above 12-10-04. I think a versioning system that uses year-month-day would be easier to interpret than the month-day-year being used:-)
Google has already fixed the problem, and if you are using GDS, you should have the updated version since GDS updates automatically without user intervention. If you neeed to check, your version number should be 121,004 (or above). I verified from my firewall that my version was updated yesterday. (Apparently Google has been rolling out the updates since December 10)
LightScribe is actually an Hewelett Packard product, so the chances of this technology actually being licensed and incorporated in regular disk drives and media is pretty good.
"Even with deterministic things, once you've got a few of them interacting with each other, the problem becomes non-deterministic in a sense -- for example, we can't even precisely solve Newton's three body problem..
You are right, and here's some more information: As discovered by Henri Poincare, the three body problem, (or an n-body problem) is not really non-deterministic - it is simply chaotic. Chaotic behavior is actually quite deterministic, but it is impossible to calculate anything precisely since mathematical chaos has the interesting property of causing solutions to diverge even if your starting point varies by an infinitesimally small amount. (Which means that unless you have a computer with infinite precision, your calculated solutions will probably be very different from the 'true' solution.)
It is blindingly fast at both indexing and retrieval - which is near instant - and has the huge advantage over Google Desktop Search of being a native Windows client. It integrates into the desktop but perhaps more importantly, allows users to browse the returned search results much quicker than futzing around in a browser, and opening the original document."
And, of course, if you're in a Wal-Mart home office - ISD building - distribution center - et al... and dial 911 - BOOM - you get Wal-Mart's private security? Niiice, hope it's not a real emergency, you first have to explain it to them - then if they deem it neccessary THEY will call the REAL 911!
Which is how emergency calls are handled in every big corporation.
I tried to see how the MS search engine returns results that may be more relevant than Google, so I started by entering addresses (such as $restaurant_name$, $city$, $state$), but I found out that MSN has no way to return local results unlike Google which immediately interprets it as an address and shows me the results on a map.
So I tried to search for something that would not be obivous, and yet not too obscure. I searched for "asu graduate college" - the grad college homepage at Arizona State Univ. Here are the results:
Note how Google returns the most relevant page as the first result (asu.edu/graduate), while msn doesn't have that result anywhere in the first page! I tried numerous other searches, but save for a few, most of the results did not give me the relevant pages. So I guess, while the engine does index a lot of pages, their algorithm still needs plenty of working on in order to be anywhere close to Google.
I like the part about free hemming. It beats me why stores in the United States do not offer free length alterations when you buy a pair of pants. Since I am not too tall, it is almost impossible for me to find jeans that fit my length - chopping off a couple of inches would make all the difference. In India where I now buy all my jeans, the alteration comes free with the jeans - out here, the stores do not even know where I could get that done... a blank stare is all I get when I ask them about suggesting a place where I can get the length altered.
Now I just tear off the end of the jeans and walk hippie style.:-)
I just downloaded your songs and I have to tell you this - I loved them! I can't afford to buy anything right now, but as soon as I get some moolah, I will. For now, I'll give you what I have in abundance - my appreciation, both for your music and your ideology.
Let's say that you buy a song/movie and it has DRM which restricts the way you use it - you would be justified in removing the DRM to use it in your own way (provided that you engage in 'fair' use). The content that Google displays in its book search results are *NOT* your media. You do not own it, you have not paid for it and Google is providing it to you as a courtesy. To provide it, they have to ensure that you do not make copies of it since even Google does not own the media to be able to give it away to you. Nothing wrong in restricting your options here.
2. OMG they have control over the browser!
Yes they do not ask you before disabling your browser options. But this does not install a trojan, or do anything permanent with your computer like other sites do. If you do not like the fact that your options have been reduced on that page, all you have to do is hit the back button and scram. (It's like complaining that a particular room in someone else's house is too hot - if you don't like it, get outta there!)
3. The DRM can be disabled.
Sure, it can. If one man can enable it, another man can disable it. The point, as has been noted in several places, on several occassions is that the average person cannot disable it. And no, you cannot automate the process to get complete books since the guys sitting at Google are not stupid and they will have measures built in to prevent automated downloading of entire books (through whatever strategies - searching repeatedly etc)
And yes, I have to mention this : Google has shown me how to push the limits of HTML and scripting - First with Gmail and now with Google Print - they are doing stuff that looks like pure art to the programmer within me. Hurray for ingenuity!
If someone from Google is reading this: There are plenty of books that are out of print with no copyright restrictions on them. Since google has plenty of resources and aims to put all available information in the hands of users, would they please consider putting up the entire text of such books online? (Since there is no copyright on these books, there should be no '2 page backward -2 page forward' restrictions on them.)
It would be awesome since there are some really great books which one cannot purchase anymore since they are out of print (unless you are really lucky and find them on eBay). Having Google put up full text versions (or pdf versions) would be the ultimate feature.
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Click 'cancel' if you are not sure about what you are downloading
In which case I wouldn't be able to download anything. How can I be sure unless I can see the URL? (looking at the status bar doesn't help since in many websites, the link you click is not a direct link to a file - it generates the download from some other place)
downloading a trojan isn't going to be that bad - as long as you don't then try to run it.
If I knew it was a trojan, I wouldn't download it in the first place. Additionally, who reads news groups anymore?
That is not a fix. There are people who read newsgroups.
This is irrelevant on a Windoze machine because it is not truely multi-user
How exactly is that going to help me not lose any sleep?
If you read TFA it says that Firefox versions 1.x are affected.
"caste-insipired racism, sectarian violence, a prostitution industry that puts most of Asia to shame and one of the highest AIDS rates in the world. Not to mention the recent tsunami victims."
Apart from everything else, what on earth has the tsunami got to do with caste and violence problems? And how did this person declare hte space program to be of 'dubious value'.. heard of geo sensing, farming, mining and a zillion other industries in India that depend on the space program?
" Do you have to be a design expert to realize that going out of your way to make your text extra small might not be a wonderful idea? I must be a fucking genius!"
:-) About the genius part, well I'm not sure, since you entirely missed my point. What I was trying to say was that do not discount what a person has to say just because his font size is too small.
Calm down buddy
My advice for you:
1. Do not jump to conclusions
2. Try to argue without using expletives and sarcasm.
" I would never listen to technical advice from someone who puts: body { font-size : x-small;"
And you expect people to take you seriously when you care more about the font size than the content? Some people may not be design experts, but they may have interesting stuff to say.
Here is Sriram Krishnan's response to Joel's advice
"if there is a box containing a red pen and a blue pen and I "observe" it (e.g. shake it about)"
Boy, you are one terrible observer. Don't come near any of my things!
Dude, IIT Kharagpur is nowhere near IIT Delhi. Delhi is to the north, while Kharagpur is to the east of India. Yes, very far.
correction again: maybe we should then interpret "or above" as the next date above 12-10-04. I think a versioning system that uses year-month-day would be easier to interpret than the month-day-year being used :-)
What you say makes a lot of sense (which means that my "or above" statement is not valid).
Google has already fixed the problem, and if you are using GDS, you should have the updated version since GDS updates automatically without user intervention. If you neeed to check, your version number should be 121,004 (or above). I verified from my firewall that my version was updated yesterday. (Apparently Google has been rolling out the updates since December 10)
LightScribe is actually an Hewelett Packard product, so the chances of this technology actually being licensed and incorporated in regular disk drives and media is pretty good.
"Even with deterministic things, once you've got a few of them interacting with each other, the problem becomes non-deterministic in a sense -- for example, we can't even precisely solve Newton's three body problem..
You are right, and here's some more information: As discovered by Henri Poincare, the three body problem, (or an n-body problem) is not really non-deterministic - it is simply chaotic. Chaotic behavior is actually quite deterministic, but it is impossible to calculate anything precisely since mathematical chaos has the interesting property of causing solutions to diverge even if your starting point varies by an infinitesimally small amount. (Which means that unless you have a computer with infinite precision, your calculated solutions will probably be very different from the 'true' solution.)
"Yahoo! gives! away! free! desktop! search!
It is blindingly fast at both indexing and retrieval - which is near instant - and has the huge advantage over Google Desktop Search of being a native Windows client. It integrates into the desktop but perhaps more importantly, allows users to browse the returned search results much quicker than futzing around in a browser, and opening the original document."
Is that journalism or an advertisement?
And, of course, if you're in a Wal-Mart home office - ISD building - distribution center - et al... and dial 911 - BOOM - you get Wal-Mart's private security? Niiice, hope it's not a real emergency, you first have to explain it to them - then if they deem it neccessary THEY will call the REAL 911!
Which is how emergency calls are handled in every big corporation.
I tried to see how the MS search engine returns results that may be more relevant than Google, so I started by entering addresses (such as $restaurant_name$, $city$, $state$), but I found out that MSN has no way to return local results unlike Google which immediately interprets it as an address and shows me the results on a map. So I tried to search for something that would not be obivous, and yet not too obscure. I searched for "asu graduate college" - the grad college homepage at Arizona State Univ. Here are the results:
Google
MSN
Note how Google returns the most relevant page as the first result (asu.edu/graduate), while msn doesn't have that result anywhere in the first page! I tried numerous other searches, but save for a few, most of the results did not give me the relevant pages. So I guess, while the engine does index a lot of pages, their algorithm still needs plenty of working on in order to be anywhere close to Google.
I like the part about free hemming. It beats me why stores in the United States do not offer free length alterations when you buy a pair of pants. Since I am not too tall, it is almost impossible for me to find jeans that fit my length - chopping off a couple of inches would make all the difference. In India where I now buy all my jeans, the alteration comes free with the jeans - out here, the stores do not even know where I could get that done... a blank stare is all I get when I ask them about suggesting a place where I can get the length altered.
:-)
Now I just tear off the end of the jeans and walk hippie style.
I installed Google desktop and it indexes all my pdfs too.
I just downloaded your songs and I have to tell you this - I loved them! I can't afford to buy anything right now, but as soon as I get some moolah, I will. For now, I'll give you what I have in abundance - my appreciation, both for your music and your ideology.
1. This is not *your* content.
Let's say that you buy a song/movie and it has DRM which restricts the way you use it - you would be justified in removing the DRM to use it in your own way (provided that you engage in 'fair' use). The content that Google displays in its book search results are *NOT* your media. You do not own it, you have not paid for it and Google is providing it to you as a courtesy. To provide it, they have to ensure that you do not make copies of it since even Google does not own the media to be able to give it away to you. Nothing wrong in restricting your options here.
2. OMG they have control over the browser!
Yes they do not ask you before disabling your browser options. But this does not install a trojan, or do anything permanent with your computer like other sites do. If you do not like the fact that your options have been reduced on that page, all you have to do is hit the back button and scram. (It's like complaining that a particular room in someone else's house is too hot - if you don't like it, get outta there!)
3. The DRM can be disabled.
Sure, it can. If one man can enable it, another man can disable it. The point, as has been noted in several places, on several occassions is that the average person cannot disable it. And no, you cannot automate the process to get complete books since the guys sitting at Google are not stupid and they will have measures built in to prevent automated downloading of entire books (through whatever strategies - searching repeatedly etc)
And yes, I have to mention this : Google has shown me how to push the limits of HTML and scripting - First with Gmail and now with Google Print - they are doing stuff that looks like pure art to the programmer within me. Hurray for ingenuity!
If someone from Google is reading this:
There are plenty of books that are out of print with no copyright restrictions on them. Since google has plenty of resources and aims to put all available information in the hands of users, would they please consider putting up the entire text of such books online? (Since there is no copyright on these books, there should be no '2 page backward -2 page forward' restrictions on them.)
It would be awesome since there are some really great books which one cannot purchase anymore since they are out of print (unless you are really lucky and find them on eBay). Having Google put up full text versions (or pdf versions) would be the ultimate feature.
Oh dang! the stupid guys at Google must have never thought of this :-)
Check out Keyhole LT
Of course, I forgot this is Slashdot.. how can people *not* think in terms of Open Source. For Heaven's sake, this is a friggin fantasy book! :-)
It seems that google doesnt even spider more than 10% of the content in the web.
Purely pedantic.. where do you get that 10% figure (even if it is a ballpark)?