No matter what is said on/. or other like minded places it should be noted that this whole fiasco has stifled the open source movement in the court of public opinion. FUD is a very good tactic indeed. The common software buyer will see another question mark regarding Linux and that is all that matters. the facts are irrelevant here and the techies are missing this. I am not sure what the answer to this problem is but no matter what your opinion is, the fact is that Linux is being stopped dead in its' tracks. It is in all commercial software makers benefit to keep the FUD regarding Linux rolling in the public press. Does this letter say anything as far as code goes - NO. Does this help the PR machine to keep Linux as a fringe, maybe illegal OS - YES.
Everybody seems to want to fight this by way of technical discussion when it has nothing to do with technical merit at all. SCO stock is still high even with all of the geeks ranting and raving. This will be in the courts for years and SCO et al will be reaping the rewards the whole time.
This is not a Code war, it is a PR war and the geeks are losing. PR is what is needed.
I find it incredible that this site is not up. You would think that someone doing this type of hack would realize that it was going to be linked by just about every news service in the world.... well ok maybe just slashdot.
Hey, I hate spammers as much as the next guy - but giving away beer, that's a little over the top don't you think?
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I RTFA but i'm not sure if I qualify. I supply a cable modem connection to 12 students in rental rooms. If I use a switch and charge a monthly rate, does this make me an ISP. Does there have to be a server involved? Does reselling access count?
I think the idea is that if you are a math major - you can understand it. The question is not comprehensible without a few years of math study. This would definitely include myself.
I have been complainig about google for a long time now. The garbage that comes up after a search has been terrible. As a rule I skip the first few screens of any search because they are just adverts and redirects. I used to think that the time was right for a new king of search but if google can clean up the cheaters it is possible that they could continue to rule.
Remember that the way that Google became popular was the fact that all other search engines were saturated with garbage results in the form of highest bidder on a particular search words.
Criminals with a Microsoft touch
By Limor Gal
When the subject is computers, Dr. Orly Turgeman
Goldschmidt is more cautious than the average
computer-user. She works on two computers and she
never saves important files on the computer that
is linked to the Internet. She updates her
anti-virus software program every day and
continually saves the documents on her computer.
After interviewing 54 hackers and after two of
them - who did not manage to get the names of the
other interviewees from Turgeman - managed to
break into her computer, she is taking no chances.
Turgeman, who teaches in Tel Aviv University's
sociology department, had interviewed the hackers
for her doctoral dissertation. The subject: how
hackers, or computer criminals, perceive
themselves. (The dissertation was written at the
Hebrew University of Jerusalem; Prof. Nachman
Ben-Yehuda, currently dean of the university's
Faculty of Social Sciences, was her adviser.)
The crimes that hackers commit
fall into three main
categories: copyright
infringement (breaking into
and duplicating
copyright-protected
software), hacking (breaking
into databases and Internet
sites; fraudulently using
Internet and credit-card
accounts, and databases; and disseminating
computer viruses) and "phreaking" (the term for
cracking phone networks in order to make free
phone calls).
In her dissertation, Turgeman wanted to examine
the explanations hackers gave for their
behavior in an effort to legitimize their
actions. In the 1990s, when she did her
research, the commonly held image of a hacker
was an isolated individual incapable of
communicating with others. "I was surprised to
discover," says Turgeman, "that they were
warm, sociable people with warm families and
that many loved to play pranks and were
iconoclasts in their childhood."
Apparently, the average Israeli hacker resembles
hackers the world over. Generally speaking,
hackers are young, well-educated men without a
criminal record, who belong to the middle or
upper class. In Israel, they are, for the most
part, Ashkenazim, secular, leftist and
residents of the central part of the country.
Most of them are unmarried, although some
hackers are married and, in some cases, have
children. Among the 54 hackers she interviewed,
only three were women. The small percentage of
women apparently stems from women's meager
presence in information technology-related
professions.
"In my opinion, women still feel like outsiders
in the computer field," observes Turgeman.
"This is a male environment, with a warlike
atmosphere. Moreover, competitiveness and
aggressiveness are characteristics found more
among men than among women. And that is also
the way society views women. One of the female
hackers I interviewed, for example, told me
that she used to work in a computer store.
People would ask her whether `someone could
help them.' `What's wrong with me? I'm not
"someone,' she would reply. `Do you think I'm
just here for decoration?'"
As one would expect, hackers need to operate
undercover. Thus, in order to find
interviewees, Turgeman had to do some detective
work and, through journalists, conferences and
Web sites, she managed to find hackers willing
to talk to her. To prevent anyone from using
her data to locate the interviewees, she did
not tape the conversations or record details
that could identify them. Even in her notes,
she employed numbers, not names, to catalog
the hackers. Some interviewees referred her to
colleagues, but most of them refused to do so.
"Sometimes, the motive for the refusal was that
they wanted to play a sort of game with me,"
she explains. "They tried to challenge me.
There were cases where I would contact a hacker
only to hear the words, `I was wondering when
you'd show up.' Those hackers knew I was
looking for them, but waited until I myself
contacted them."
Like an addiction
A love of challenges is a characteristic trait
of hackers. The prime factors driving them are
the enjoyment and thrill they derive from their
activities and the opportunity they have to
satisfy a need to compete, and to feel in
I have now deleted all of the files with the extension.mp3 from all of my computers as well as all my freinds and neighbours computers. I would appreciate if you just dropped this whole nonsense regarding suing people. We will be good girls and boys now.
I fail to see any point to this. I don't see how you could look at this chart and not see a hockey stick. If you don't then you are simply lying to yourself or you are just a freak. Most Canadians are scared of the (non-existent) threat of global warming because of the large investment in outdoor rinks without which we would be continually fighting for indoor icetime. If that ever happens the USA should be very scared. Imagine Canada without enough rinks for the population and the ensuing carnage. It would immediately spill over to the US and Iraq would look like a minor penalty compared to the stick swinging, crazed canadians invading the borders and taking over all the arenas north of Boston. The only safe place for a peace loving American would be in the local breweries (a canadian invasion would surely be equipped with their own beer) Be afraid, be very afraid.
IMHO Google has been getting more difficult to find what you want because of the advertising, unlike when it first started. For it to get assimilated into MS seems like a natural progression. I am hoping that a new startup that has a more honest page rank comes into the picture soon. It seems ripe for the picking for someone with a new idea (not sure what that is though).
Being a goalie - I would sure like to see more people of your opinion. It would sure save a lot of hassle with the people that you have to demonstrate this effect on.
"I'll happily store the waste from the nuclear generated power I use in my backyard if you'll store the ash from the coal generated power you use in yours"
One of the most concise and self explanatory comments regarding nuclear power I have ever heard. Mod this post up please.
I hope I am not the only one that is violently opposed to public schools trying to teach our children about ethics. First of all I don't aggree with a government organization trying to teach children ethics (whatever happened to parents?) and secondly the teaching of ethics by a heavy handed corporation. This is wrong in so many ways that I have to question the ethics of the school boards that allow such a curriculum in the first place.
This week alone I have had to work on 3 boxes that had AOL on them and all were a huge pain in the ass. Anytime AOL has a legal problem I can only hope that someone sues them into oblivion and I will never have to see a stupid interface like that again.
This has to be one of the worst cases of web design I have seen. I am not a webmaster by any stretch but links to "c:" with only 1 link in the whole page that actually works. I will make the bold prediction that she does not find any holes in the code. After that the system will be declared secure and someone will make a lot of money and she will get her cut.
I am in Beamsville/Grimsby, Ontario and as of this posting (7:37 p.m.)we have power. This area is serviced by Niagara Falls but I am not sure why this area of probably 30 miles is the only spot with power in Ontario or New York.
I am not an American but I seem to realize what every American should know but refuse to believe. Nowhere in the bill of Rights, Constitution or any other original documents is the term DEMOCRACY used. This is not afterthought but intentional. Your form of government is not a Democracy - period. It is a Constitution Republic. It may be turning into a democracy but it was never intended to be one. A democracy is 3 wolves and a sheep deciding what to have for dinner. A Constitution ensures that the rights of one are not threatened by the majority. In Canada we have a sham constitution that does not even protect our right to own land. Please do not keep spreading this fallacy about the US being a democracy for fear of destroying your constitution.
It bothers me that most Americans are ignorant of their history and how their great country can into being.
Slashdot Mirror
It's a mod fight to see if this is flamebait or informative. It's like watching a horserace.
Gee what could i put on the table and leave it there for a long time.
No matter what is said on /. or other like minded places it should be noted that this whole fiasco has stifled the open source movement in the court of public opinion. FUD is a very good tactic indeed. The common software buyer will see another question mark regarding Linux and that is all that matters. the facts are irrelevant here and the techies are missing this. I am not sure what the answer to this problem is but no matter what your opinion is, the fact is that Linux is being stopped dead in its' tracks. It is in all commercial software makers benefit to keep the FUD regarding Linux rolling in the public press. Does this letter say anything as far as code goes - NO. Does this help the PR machine to keep Linux as a fringe, maybe illegal OS - YES.
Everybody seems to want to fight this by way of technical discussion when it has nothing to do with technical merit at all. SCO stock is still high even with all of the geeks ranting and raving. This will be in the courts for years and SCO et al will be reaping the rewards the whole time.
This is not a Code war, it is a PR war and the geeks are losing. PR is what is needed.
I find it incredible that this site is not up. You would think that someone doing this type of hack would realize that it was going to be linked by just about every news service in the world .... well ok maybe just slashdot.
Hey, I hate spammers as much as the next guy - but giving away beer, that's a little over the top don't you think?
I RTFA but i'm not sure if I qualify. I supply a cable modem connection to 12 students in rental rooms. If I use a switch and charge a monthly rate, does this make me an ISP. Does there have to be a server involved? Does reselling access count?
I think the idea is that if you are a math major - you can understand it. The question is not comprehensible without a few years of math study. This would definitely include myself.
Why didn't they just ask me the answer - I knew it was 42 the whole time. As a general rule the answer is always 42.
Sorry - I think I did sound a bit like a religious zealout there - didn't I.
I cannot honestly believe that God would create something like SCO....Satan maybe.
I have been complainig about google for a long time now. The garbage that comes up after a search has been terrible. As a rule I skip the first few screens of any search because they are just adverts and redirects. I used to think that the time was right for a new king of search but if google can clean up the cheaters it is possible that they could continue to rule. Remember that the way that Google became popular was the fact that all other search engines were saturated with garbage results in the form of highest bidder on a particular search words.
The dewey decimal system of the internet. We could use large numbers, maybe 4 sets of 3 digits that are unique or something like that or ....Hold on...
Criminals with a Microsoft touch By Limor Gal When the subject is computers, Dr. Orly Turgeman Goldschmidt is more cautious than the average computer-user. She works on two computers and she never saves important files on the computer that is linked to the Internet. She updates her anti-virus software program every day and continually saves the documents on her computer. After interviewing 54 hackers and after two of them - who did not manage to get the names of the other interviewees from Turgeman - managed to break into her computer, she is taking no chances. Turgeman, who teaches in Tel Aviv University's sociology department, had interviewed the hackers for her doctoral dissertation. The subject: how hackers, or computer criminals, perceive themselves. (The dissertation was written at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem; Prof. Nachman Ben-Yehuda, currently dean of the university's Faculty of Social Sciences, was her adviser.) The crimes that hackers commit fall into three main categories: copyright infringement (breaking into and duplicating copyright-protected software), hacking (breaking into databases and Internet sites; fraudulently using Internet and credit-card accounts, and databases; and disseminating computer viruses) and "phreaking" (the term for cracking phone networks in order to make free phone calls). In her dissertation, Turgeman wanted to examine the explanations hackers gave for their behavior in an effort to legitimize their actions. In the 1990s, when she did her research, the commonly held image of a hacker was an isolated individual incapable of communicating with others. "I was surprised to discover," says Turgeman, "that they were warm, sociable people with warm families and that many loved to play pranks and were iconoclasts in their childhood." Apparently, the average Israeli hacker resembles hackers the world over. Generally speaking, hackers are young, well-educated men without a criminal record, who belong to the middle or upper class. In Israel, they are, for the most part, Ashkenazim, secular, leftist and residents of the central part of the country. Most of them are unmarried, although some hackers are married and, in some cases, have children. Among the 54 hackers she interviewed, only three were women. The small percentage of women apparently stems from women's meager presence in information technology-related professions. "In my opinion, women still feel like outsiders in the computer field," observes Turgeman. "This is a male environment, with a warlike atmosphere. Moreover, competitiveness and aggressiveness are characteristics found more among men than among women. And that is also the way society views women. One of the female hackers I interviewed, for example, told me that she used to work in a computer store. People would ask her whether `someone could help them.' `What's wrong with me? I'm not "someone,' she would reply. `Do you think I'm just here for decoration?'" As one would expect, hackers need to operate undercover. Thus, in order to find interviewees, Turgeman had to do some detective work and, through journalists, conferences and Web sites, she managed to find hackers willing to talk to her. To prevent anyone from using her data to locate the interviewees, she did not tape the conversations or record details that could identify them. Even in her notes, she employed numbers, not names, to catalog the hackers. Some interviewees referred her to colleagues, but most of them refused to do so. "Sometimes, the motive for the refusal was that they wanted to play a sort of game with me," she explains. "They tried to challenge me. There were cases where I would contact a hacker only to hear the words, `I was wondering when you'd show up.' Those hackers knew I was looking for them, but waited until I myself contacted them." Like an addiction A love of challenges is a characteristic trait of hackers. The prime factors driving them are the enjoyment and thrill they derive from their activities and the opportunity they have to satisfy a need to compete, and to feel in
I have now deleted all of the files with the extension .mp3 from all of my computers as well as all my freinds and neighbours computers. I would appreciate if you just dropped this whole nonsense regarding suing people. We will be good girls and boys now.
I fail to see any point to this. I don't see how you could look at this chart and not see a hockey stick. If you don't then you are simply lying to yourself or you are just a freak. Most Canadians are scared of the (non-existent) threat of global warming because of the large investment in outdoor rinks without which we would be continually fighting for indoor icetime. If that ever happens the USA should be very scared. Imagine Canada without enough rinks for the population and the ensuing carnage. It would immediately spill over to the US and Iraq would look like a minor penalty compared to the stick swinging, crazed canadians invading the borders and taking over all the arenas north of Boston. The only safe place for a peace loving American would be in the local breweries (a canadian invasion would surely be equipped with their own beer) Be afraid, be very afraid.
IMHO Google has been getting more difficult to find what you want because of the advertising, unlike when it first started. For it to get assimilated into MS seems like a natural progression. I am hoping that a new startup that has a more honest page rank comes into the picture soon. It seems ripe for the picking for someone with a new idea (not sure what that is though).
C'mon now - tell us how you really feel without bottling it all up inside. Just let it out. There....doesn't that feel better.
Being a goalie - I would sure like to see more people of your opinion. It would sure save a lot of hassle with the people that you have to demonstrate this effect on.
"I'll happily store the waste from the nuclear generated power I use in my backyard if you'll store the ash from the coal generated power you use in yours"
One of the most concise and self explanatory comments regarding nuclear power I have ever heard. Mod this post up please.
I hope I am not the only one that is violently opposed to public schools trying to teach our children about ethics. First of all I don't aggree with a government organization trying to teach children ethics (whatever happened to parents?) and secondly the teaching of ethics by a heavy handed corporation. This is wrong in so many ways that I have to question the ethics of the school boards that allow such a curriculum in the first place.
This week alone I have had to work on 3 boxes that had AOL on them and all were a huge pain in the ass. Anytime AOL has a legal problem I can only hope that someone sues them into oblivion and I will never have to see a stupid interface like that again.
**** END NASTY AOL RANT ****
Please spellcheck your own posts before posting. Instead of flamebait you are now just a hypocrite. "...through dictd jsut to be sure..."
This has to be one of the worst cases of web design I have seen. I am not a webmaster by any stretch but links to "c:" with only 1 link in the whole page that actually works. I will make the bold prediction that she does not find any holes in the code. After that the system will be declared secure and someone will make a lot of money and she will get her cut.
I am in Beamsville/Grimsby, Ontario and as of this posting (7:37 p.m.)we have power. This area is serviced by Niagara Falls but I am not sure why this area of probably 30 miles is the only spot with power in Ontario or New York.
I am not an American but I seem to realize what every American should know but refuse to believe.
Nowhere in the bill of Rights, Constitution or any other original documents is the term DEMOCRACY used. This is not afterthought but intentional. Your form of government is not a Democracy - period. It is a Constitution Republic. It may be turning into a democracy but it was never intended to be one. A democracy is 3 wolves and a sheep deciding what to have for dinner. A Constitution ensures that the rights of one are not threatened by the majority. In Canada we have a sham constitution that does not even protect our right to own land. Please do not keep spreading this fallacy about the US being a democracy for fear of destroying your constitution.
It bothers me that most Americans are ignorant of their history and how their great country can into being.