BiggyP: "...time to fit more fans and drown out the noise."
Read the article. Fans won't drown out the noise because signals are typically in the range above 10kHz, so the lower frequency sounds, like fans, can be filtered out.
"My guess is that they've been reading the filings from IBM's lawyers..."
Probably, but I'd bet the Novell filings have even more to do with it. After all, SCO told Baystar that they owned Unix (tm Open Group). Then the Novell filing comes along with the terms of what SCO actually bought. Bay Star is likely to be mighty ticked about that.
Wish I had mod points for you. I expect it will be before mid-day on Monday.
I suppose if enough sell orders come in over the weekend, it's possible that it will be pulled at opening on Monday. Should be interesting to see what happens.
I can guarantee you, though, if you don't already have short position, it will be nearly impossible to get one any longer.
It's likely that SCO was legally obligated to announce it. Or, possibly, they just wanted to announce that they would fight the redemption demand before the news became widespread.
I fully expect their stock to tank on Monday. W00T!
Well, having read through many of the responses below, there doesn't seem to be any consensus as to whether it would actually kill or not.
Personally, I think it would kill the person who tried it.
But the only way we're going to find out is if Clif Griffin, the thread parent, actually tries it.
What's one life in the interests of science anyway?
Go for it Clif!
As you've already posted your intent to do so here, the circumstances will no longer be mysterious. Just make sure to let us know if you survive, and to make out a will assigning reporting the results here to someone else, you know, in case you don't make it.
I think that was Balzac, not Voltaire. It was a kind of sludge of turkish coffee, very thick, and the "cups" were probbably about 3-4 oz.
Still an enormous amount of caffeine, but the 70 cups probably comes down to about 30 of our cups today. Also I think the 70 cups is an exaggeration, it was more like 30-40 cups.
Still, even at the reduced levels, Balzac was one of the great caffeine addicts of all time.
'A desk is capable of supporting 10 million bacteria and the average office contains 20,961 germs per square inch, according to research.... By contrast, the average toilet seat contains 49 germs per square inch, the survey showed.'
Which is why one should always take more care to wipe down a keyboard before using it, than a toilet seat.
"At idle, with no applications running, the commit charge is at a whopping 483 MB!! Obviously, the final release or even the beta releases will not consume this much of the system resources."
MS typically aims at having the OS consume, or fit into, about a quarter of whatever amount of memory is considered standard at the time.
Now, by the time Longhorn rolls out in 2007 or so, it's likely that 2 GB of RAM, if not 4, will be standard on most new systems. So I'd say MS is probably aiming at a 512 MB base for Longhorn. Maybe 256 or 384, but there's nothing in MS's history to indicate that they would have a problem releasing an OS that consumes 512MB.
Not a flame, just wondering if you've seen the extended edition of The Two Towers? While I agree that the cinematic cut of FOTR was the best the three cinematic cuts, The Two Towers EE is far more well structured than the theatrical version. It even *feels* shorter, despite being 45 minutes longer.
So, I'm waiting for the extended edition of ROTK before commenting on the series as a whole.
This is *one* study as opposed to many studies tending to confirm the theory. I doubt it's conclusive.
This isn't to say that it's wrong, but I think it's obvious that Keller's paper certainly shouldn't be accepted as definitive unless and until studies confirming it are undertaken and reported.
SCO must have a) shut off the web server service, or b) blocked out port 80, or c) pulled the web page.
The server is up, but you can't access the web page. Pinging it returns the IP address and responses are relatively quick:
Pinging shop.sco.com [216.250.128.240] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 216.250.128.240: bytes=32 time=88ms TTL=236 Reply from 216.250.128.240: bytes=32 time=78ms TTL=236 Reply from 216.250.128.240: bytes=32 time=77ms TTL=236 Reply from 216.250.128.240: bytes=32 time=78ms TTL=236
Ping statistics for 216.250.128.240:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss), Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 77ms, Maximum = 88ms, Average = 80ms
Like the peer post, I've seen Norton Systemworks, Crashguard in particular, really screw up clients systems. I used to recommend Norton Utilities in the old days, but no longer. It causes more problems than it resolves for most people.
What were these guys thinking when they resurrected an advertising clause?
Hey, let's not just shoot ourselves in the foot, but do it just when desktop Linux is taking off?
Yeah, that's what we needed, a licensing dispute when we're trying to develop more user-friendly desktop environments.
Pity the alternatives aren't further along. On the other hand, maybe actions like this, basically boycotting 4.4, will get them to revert back to the old license, or at least get rid of the advertising clause.
So what? MS is under no obligation to continue providing free readers.
But once a reader is released under an Open Source license, the GPL in particular but this is true of most of them, the source is always available for modifying to use on different platforms or updating for new formats.
And one shouldn't be required to pay MS to submit or create documents in publicly acceptable formats, either.
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University Tells Napster To Fuck Off.
BiggyP: "...time to fit more fans and drown out the noise."
Read the article. Fans won't drown out the noise because signals are typically in the range above 10kHz, so the lower frequency sounds, like fans, can be filtered out.
But IBM has Cravath, Swain, & Moore.
"My guess is that they've been reading the filings from IBM's lawyers..."
Probably, but I'd bet the Novell filings have even more to do with it. After all, SCO told Baystar that they owned Unix (tm Open Group). Then the Novell filing comes along with the terms of what SCO actually bought. Bay Star is likely to be mighty ticked about that.
Fine. I'll take the two houses.
Wish I had mod points for you. I expect it will be before mid-day on Monday.
I suppose if enough sell orders come in over the weekend, it's possible that it will be pulled at opening on Monday. Should be interesting to see what happens.
I can guarantee you, though, if you don't already have short position, it will be nearly impossible to get one any longer.
It's likely that SCO was legally obligated to announce it. Or, possibly, they just wanted to announce that they would fight the redemption demand before the news became widespread.
I fully expect their stock to tank on Monday. W00T!
"SCO is attempting to obtain specific information from BayStar"
Anyone wanna bet against the lawyers at IBM laughing their asses off at this?
Didn't think so...
Well, having read through many of the responses below, there doesn't seem to be any consensus as to whether it would actually kill or not.
Personally, I think it would kill the person who tried it.
But the only way we're going to find out is if Clif Griffin, the thread parent, actually tries it.
What's one life in the interests of science anyway?
Go for it Clif!
As you've already posted your intent to do so here, the circumstances will no longer be mysterious. Just make sure to let us know if you survive, and to make out a will assigning reporting the results here to someone else, you know, in case you don't make it.
I mean, we want to know either way.
I think that was Balzac, not Voltaire. It was a kind of sludge of turkish coffee, very thick, and the "cups" were probbably about 3-4 oz.
Still an enormous amount of caffeine, but the 70 cups probably comes down to about 30 of our cups today. Also I think the 70 cups is an exaggeration, it was more like 30-40 cups.
Still, even at the reduced levels, Balzac was one of the great caffeine addicts of all time.
'A desk is capable of supporting 10 million bacteria and the average office contains 20,961 germs per square inch, according to research. ... By contrast, the average toilet seat contains 49 germs per square inch, the survey showed.'
Which is why one should always take more care to wipe down a keyboard before using it, than a toilet seat.
Unless, you know, the toilet seat is wet.
Headlines are usually written by the editors, not the journalists.
"At idle, with no applications running, the commit charge is at a whopping 483 MB!! Obviously, the final release or even the beta releases will not consume this much of the system resources."
MS typically aims at having the OS consume, or fit into, about a quarter of whatever amount of memory is considered standard at the time.
Now, by the time Longhorn rolls out in 2007 or so, it's likely that 2 GB of RAM, if not 4, will be standard on most new systems. So I'd say MS is probably aiming at a 512 MB base for Longhorn. Maybe 256 or 384, but there's nothing in MS's history to indicate that they would have a problem releasing an OS that consumes 512MB.
Not a flame, just wondering if you've seen the extended edition of The Two Towers? While I agree that the cinematic cut of FOTR was the best the three cinematic cuts, The Two Towers EE is far more well structured than the theatrical version. It even *feels* shorter, despite being 45 minutes longer.
So, I'm waiting for the extended edition of ROTK before commenting on the series as a whole.
Arwen's in Lorien during the events of The Hobbit.
Christ, doesn't anyone read the appendices in LOTR?
This is *one* study as opposed to many studies tending to confirm the theory. I doubt it's conclusive.
This isn't to say that it's wrong, but I think it's obvious that Keller's paper certainly shouldn't be accepted as definitive unless and until studies confirming it are undertaken and reported.
Yeah. Reloaded sucked. I would have thought they'd call it: X2. Especially if they're gonna name it after movie sequels.
Thank God, they didn't call it The Butterfly Effect.
On the other hand, House of Sand and Fog would describe XP pretty well.
I'm just wondering, if P-ISM is the name of this product, what are they going to call the Java-enabled version?
Well, it would teach the boards not to hire psychopaths.
No more Darls,or Chainsaw Als, or Andrew Skillings. I guess I could live with that.
But Mork from Ork is white.
SCO must have a) shut off the web server service, or b) blocked out port 80, or c) pulled the web page.
The server is up, but you can't access the web page. Pinging it returns the IP address and responses are relatively quick:
Pinging shop.sco.com [216.250.128.240] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 216.250.128.240: bytes=32 time=88ms TTL=236
Reply from 216.250.128.240: bytes=32 time=78ms TTL=236
Reply from 216.250.128.240: bytes=32 time=77ms TTL=236
Reply from 216.250.128.240: bytes=32 time=78ms TTL=236
Ping statistics for 216.250.128.240:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 77ms, Maximum = 88ms, Average = 80ms
Like the peer post, I've seen Norton Systemworks, Crashguard in particular, really screw up clients systems. I used to recommend Norton Utilities in the old days, but no longer. It causes more problems than it resolves for most people.
What were these guys thinking when they resurrected an advertising clause?
Hey, let's not just shoot ourselves in the foot, but do it just when desktop Linux is taking off?
Yeah, that's what we needed, a licensing dispute when we're trying to develop more user-friendly desktop environments.
Pity the alternatives aren't further along. On the other hand, maybe actions like this, basically boycotting 4.4, will get them to revert back to the old license, or at least get rid of the advertising clause.
So what? MS is under no obligation to continue providing free readers.
But once a reader is released under an Open Source license, the GPL in particular but this is true of most of them, the source is always available for modifying to use on different platforms or updating for new formats.
And one shouldn't be required to pay MS to submit or create documents in publicly acceptable formats, either.
Hmph. Just goes to show I shouldn't believe what I read in the New York Times.
Maybe they were just talking about the ERP Market.
Oh, well, you're right. My bad. I should have checked the Market Caps first.