I think it would be a bit hard for a provider to hold anyone to one machine per modem, since you can only use 1 of their ip addresses and only get the max bandwidth for the modem, which isn't really allot.
I made sure I could network and get multiple ip's from the cable modem people before getting it.
Because they want an email address, and allot of people don't like giving any company a email unless they are sure it isn't going to be sold and then spamed to hell and back. I'm appriciate the fact that he put the link on. Otherwise I wouldn't have even botherd to read the article or read through the discussion.
Hmm, possibly, but I do know that bell atlantic...the big slow dumb phone co that provides local telephone service now goes by verizon. There wireless went that way also. I guess they just wanted to get the "bell" out of their name
Well, if I remember correctly Borland was bought by or merged with some company who had the corba technology they wanted (and some other enterprise technologies) and for some silly reason they decided that inprise was a good name. But every version of delphi I got still had borland in much bigger letters than inprise. And I think since they probably got more people who typed in www.borland.com than inprise they must have figured out borland is a well known name for develpment software. They got smart and are going back to what has worked over the years.
Now I have to admit there are good reasons for making small computers. And the idea of a cpu being on a slot really isn't a bad idea (I think pci would be too slow personally). But why oh why would you need a completely different computer in a drive bay (thats assuming you have any available). The only practical reason I could possibly see for this is having allot of servers in one box. Otherwise I can make room for another full computer:)
As some people who have never used or worked with delphi seem to think, delphi is not as limited as they want it to be. My opinion is this:
If you are just starting in programing and are a bit intimidated by c/c++ delphi is a good choice since it is easier to learn and will not let you make as many mistakes as c/c++ will allow.
If you have been working in c/c++ and want to program in windows C++ Builder is great.
I believe allot of language have a paticular area they are best used for. Delphi creates nice windows (and soon Linux) programs that are much easier to debug. Java is covering the web/multiplatform area well. Perl for server side scripting. C/C++ is never going to go away soon for system and just about any os programming (shame it never lived up to its multiplatform specs).
If you are interested in delphi get the standard version and play with it for a while. I think the other strong point of delphi is there are thousands of free components you can get out there that are open source.
I guess the whole point is that use what you want, try several (Visual Basic/VC++ are very nasty though and you could save some headaches avoiding them). If you don't get stuck in the one language rut then you will be happier in the long run.
I would love it if it did. I use pascal every day. Well, Object oriented pascal, its close. Delphi is a wonderful programming environment that will soon be working on linux.
I doubt that all the java programmers out there are going to quit thier jobs or imidiatly switch to a propriatary language just to please M$. All M$ could do is stop java from working and that would put them back in court with sun. So far M$ hasn't done to well in court lately.
I believe this would get them even more enemies. For one oracle relies on java for most of its support tools. Without jave administering oracle would become a pain. Also with third party objects many companies manage to get around some of their licensing issues by using java programs run over thier intranet.
The biggest plus to java is platform independance. I've started learning just for that reason. Although its speed is somewhat of an issue, for some things it is not as big of a drawback as it was.
I would suggest Borland C++ builder, I've played with VC++ and the only real visual thing I've seen so far is that it shows up on the monitor. Beyond that there isn't much visual desgn to it. I guess it would be ok if the only programs you intended to write were multi-window programs.
Check out C++ Builder, its a visual development tool.
Well, look at it this way, since the young punks being pumped out of colledges now who think they know it all, and most don't know anything...they need everything broken down into simple terms. since they have pretty much did away with liner programming they had to try and keep the confusion down a bit or no one would be able to use it. Give it a few more years and they will have a language out for the morons which will not require any code be written.
As for those of you out ther just getting out of colledge and you do know something the above statement probably doesn't apply to you. But if you language of choice is Visual basic then it probably does.
It still brings up the question of is the project they are working on new or a direct competition. If they left M$ before M$ started whatever project the company they were working for started then who is at fault? The ex-employee for going to work for a company M$ decided had a good idea and wanted to get ahead of the competition...so it pulled a fast one.
I'm still waiting to see any inovation come out of M$.
What got me from reading the article is that yahoo didn't have any idea what they were doing. So if it isn't know what they are building...how does M$?
If M$ is snooping into "corporate secrets" could M$ be taken to court for theft or something. I have a non-compete agreement with my employer, but it only appllies to things I do for them. And it was modified to stipulate that previous work I did was exempt from this agreement. With a small company that does not do allot of different projects I saw this as no problem. I don't think I could bring myself to ever work for the borg though..ehhe
It occured to me that if this would allow a piece of software to lock out a portion of the hd, then would it be ridiculous to assume that someone might lock you out of the whole hd? If I wrote a virus that found any areas of the drive, or just took the whole drive, encrypted it, and shut down the computer. The computer never boots again without being reinstalled.
If this is based off of DVD protection scheme then we know that was broken, but a DVD is read only, with a HD that seems to open a new form of abuse by virus creators.
Anyone out there work for one of the major hd manufatcurers? Start spreading the word that this new "standard" will cost them sales, will increase support costs. It will be a big problem for the hd makers themselves since anytime this thing screwes up or the software controlling it makes a mistake they will be calling the hd manufacture thinking thier drive is bad.
I think thats the point, its not. The only person to benifit from hd copy protection is big corporations. Why don't they just come out and say that they think all consumers are thieving bastards and that they want to control what we can and cannot do on our computers.
What is really scarry is the fact that all it takes is the right ammount of money and you can have control over someone elses computer also (under hd copy protection).
what about suse? I switched from rh to suse and have been very happy with them. They have a good distro with good support for hardware. v7 even found my usb mouse with no problem during installation (windows me didn't support the usb mouse during setup).
I agree, we do need standards. Linux could use a few more standards, actually I think linux needs a definition of what makes a distro linux. Of course this is just my opinion.
As for M$ and standards, yes they did come up with some good things. I do give them credit for one major acheivement, this above everything else they have done, they figured out how to make an os that an idiot can use. My mother uses a computer with windows, if I handed her linux I bet she wouldn't touch it for more than a few min and never touch it again or be harrassing me forever on what to do with it.
M$ has done some good for the computer world. Think in terms of advancements in the computer world. If we didn't have every moron out there buying a computer would we be seeing the continual advancement in hardware? Maybe, but large sales tend to promote more advancement, so you can have more sales. So M$ has unintentionally helped us all to a degree by getting the morons to buy computers.
Now that we have many good standards to help us all work/communicate with each other. Lets keep things moving allong smoothly and rip M$ to peices before it has a chance to mess up what it has inadvertantly done.
Keep M$ right where they are while the rest of the world goes past 'em.
So you are saying with all the money microsoft has, and with all the push they seem to create towards the internet, that we should let them tell the world that we should all use their new propriatary standards they have come up with for the internet? Oh, and by the way to use them you must use windows with internet explorer...
I find the fact that people seem to forget that microsoft has been working towards making as much confusion on the net as possible. vbscript isn't something all browsers will run. They did their best to subvert and change java to be windows only. Took a law suit to stop that.
If you really think M$ will sit by and just go away because they don't want to play nice, you are very wrong.
A break up would do us all some good, including microsoft.
Interesting bit of info:
My boss called bsa the other day since we got a mailing from them. It was stated that the bsa wasn't interested in companies with less then 10 computers.
Now it would seem to me that if they only hit companies with 10 or more computers they are not really concerned with piracy but getting money. If M$ made better products and priced them more reasonably then they wouldn't be as big of a push about piracy. But I would but that it isn't the large companies that are pirating the software. I would imagine that the smaller companies are the ones using "illeagal" software. Big companies tend to have the money and don't mind writing off $$ to pay for thier software. They have the money.
But keep watching as the bsa targets every large corporation in Virgina and Maryland. And they will probably collect $$ from many of them for oversites and lost green peices of paper.
Most big companies don't pirate software, its the smaller ones that are more prone to do it.
I know there are quite a few books in several formats from the linux documnetation project. Although all the books are not completely up to date the material in them is quite good.
For new linux people this would seem like a good place to start since they cover most of the major issues of using/seting up/adminstrating linux.
That sounds good. Been using delphi since v2, and looking forward to kylix. I'm also curious obout the clx which (if like delphi vcl) should be quite amazing themselves.
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I think it would be a bit hard for a provider to hold anyone to one machine per modem, since you can only use 1 of their ip addresses and only get the max bandwidth for the modem, which isn't really allot.
I made sure I could network and get multiple ip's from the cable modem people before getting it.
Because they want an email address, and allot of people don't like giving any company a email unless they are sure it isn't going to be sold and then spamed to hell and back. I'm appriciate the fact that he put the link on. Otherwise I wouldn't have even botherd to read the article or read through the discussion.
Hmm, possibly, but I do know that bell atlantic...the big slow dumb phone co that provides local telephone service now goes by verizon. There wireless went that way also. I guess they just wanted to get the "bell" out of their name
Well, if I remember correctly Borland was bought by or merged with some company who had the corba technology they wanted (and some other enterprise technologies) and for some silly reason they decided that inprise was a good name. But every version of delphi I got still had borland in much bigger letters than inprise. And I think since they probably got more people who typed in www.borland.com than inprise they must have figured out borland is a well known name for develpment software. They got smart and are going back to what has worked over the years.
verizon was bell atlantic. I know I live in thier area and the phone bill now has "verison" planted on it.
actually there are 3 computers at my house....so lonelyness isn't a big problem. And this weekend might I might end up with another stray computer.
What if my computer were to get an attitude haveing to put up with a little computer sucking on its power and trying to tell it what to do...
Now I have to admit there are good reasons for making small computers. And the idea of a cpu being on a slot really isn't a bad idea (I think pci would be too slow personally). But why oh why would you need a completely different computer in a drive bay (thats assuming you have any available). The only practical reason I could possibly see for this is having allot of servers in one box. Otherwise I can make room for another full computer :)
As some people who have never used or worked with delphi seem to think, delphi is not as limited as they want it to be. My opinion is this:
If you are just starting in programing and are a bit intimidated by c/c++ delphi is a good choice since it is easier to learn and will not let you make as many mistakes as c/c++ will allow.
If you have been working in c/c++ and want to program in windows C++ Builder is great.
I believe allot of language have a paticular area they are best used for. Delphi creates nice windows (and soon Linux) programs that are much easier to debug. Java is covering the web/multiplatform area well. Perl for server side scripting. C/C++ is never going to go away soon for system and just about any os programming (shame it never lived up to its multiplatform specs).
If you are interested in delphi get the standard version and play with it for a while. I think the other strong point of delphi is there are thousands of free components you can get out there that are open source.
I guess the whole point is that use what you want, try several (Visual Basic/VC++ are very nasty though and you could save some headaches avoiding them). If you don't get stuck in the one language rut then you will be happier in the long run.
without MS backing Java will go the way of Pascal
I would love it if it did. I use pascal every day. Well, Object oriented pascal, its close. Delphi is a wonderful programming environment that will soon be working on linux.
I doubt that all the java programmers out there are going to quit thier jobs or imidiatly switch to a propriatary language just to please M$. All M$ could do is stop java from working and that would put them back in court with sun. So far M$ hasn't done to well in court lately.
I believe this would get them even more enemies. For one oracle relies on java for most of its support tools. Without jave administering oracle would become a pain. Also with third party objects many companies manage to get around some of their licensing issues by using java programs run over thier intranet.
The biggest plus to java is platform independance. I've started learning just for that reason. Although its speed is somewhat of an issue, for some things it is not as big of a drawback as it was.
Go get a copy of Visual C++.
I would suggest Borland C++ builder, I've played with VC++ and the only real visual thing I've seen so far is that it shows up on the monitor. Beyond that there isn't much visual desgn to it. I guess it would be ok if the only programs you intended to write were multi-window programs.
Check out C++ Builder, its a visual development tool.
Object oriented? Object sharing? Classes?
Well, look at it this way, since the young punks being pumped out of colledges now who think they know it all, and most don't know anything...they need everything broken down into simple terms. since they have pretty much did away with liner programming they had to try and keep the confusion down a bit or no one would be able to use it. Give it a few more years and they will have a language out for the morons which will not require any code be written.
As for those of you out ther just getting out of colledge and you do know something the above statement probably doesn't apply to you. But if you language of choice is Visual basic then it probably does.
It still brings up the question of is the project they are working on new or a direct competition. If they left M$ before M$ started whatever project the company they were working for started then who is at fault? The ex-employee for going to work for a company M$ decided had a good idea and wanted to get ahead of the competition...so it pulled a fast one.
I'm still waiting to see any inovation come out of M$.
What got me from reading the article is that yahoo didn't have any idea what they were doing. So if it isn't know what they are building...how does M$?
If M$ is snooping into "corporate secrets" could M$ be taken to court for theft or something. I have a non-compete agreement with my employer, but it only appllies to things I do for them. And it was modified to stipulate that previous work I did was exempt from this agreement. With a small company that does not do allot of different projects I saw this as no problem. I don't think I could bring myself to ever work for the borg though..ehhe
It occured to me that if this would allow a piece of software to lock out a portion of the hd, then would it be ridiculous to assume that someone might lock you out of the whole hd? If I wrote a virus that found any areas of the drive, or just took the whole drive, encrypted it, and shut down the computer. The computer never boots again without being reinstalled.
If this is based off of DVD protection scheme then we know that was broken, but a DVD is read only, with a HD that seems to open a new form of abuse by virus creators.
Anyone out there work for one of the major hd manufatcurers? Start spreading the word that this new "standard" will cost them sales, will increase support costs. It will be a big problem for the hd makers themselves since anytime this thing screwes up or the software controlling it makes a mistake they will be calling the hd manufacture thinking thier drive is bad.
How is this in the consumer's best interest?
I think thats the point, its not. The only person to benifit from hd copy protection is big corporations. Why don't they just come out and say that they think all consumers are thieving bastards and that they want to control what we can and cannot do on our computers.
What is really scarry is the fact that all it takes is the right ammount of money and you can have control over someone elses computer also (under hd copy protection).
what about suse? I switched from rh to suse and have been very happy with them. They have a good distro with good support for hardware. v7 even found my usb mouse with no problem during installation (windows me didn't support the usb mouse during setup).
I believe their intent was that once you no longer were their customer they wanted the ability to come get thier hardware.
If you are renting something and have not bought it then you return it when you are no longer going to be renting it.
The whole thing is a legal "cover their asses" creation. I've seen worse from some of the dialups I've used.
I agree, we do need standards. Linux could use a few more standards, actually I think linux needs a definition of what makes a distro linux. Of course this is just my opinion.
As for M$ and standards, yes they did come up with some good things. I do give them credit for one major acheivement, this above everything else they have done, they figured out how to make an os that an idiot can use. My mother uses a computer with windows, if I handed her linux I bet she wouldn't touch it for more than a few min and never touch it again or be harrassing me forever on what to do with it.
M$ has done some good for the computer world. Think in terms of advancements in the computer world. If we didn't have every moron out there buying a computer would we be seeing the continual advancement in hardware? Maybe, but large sales tend to promote more advancement, so you can have more sales. So M$ has unintentionally helped us all to a degree by getting the morons to buy computers.
Now that we have many good standards to help us all work/communicate with each other. Lets keep things moving allong smoothly and rip M$ to peices before it has a chance to mess up what it has inadvertantly done.
Keep M$ right where they are while the rest of the world goes past 'em.
So you are saying with all the money microsoft has, and with all the push they seem to create towards the internet, that we should let them tell the world that we should all use their new propriatary standards they have come up with for the internet? Oh, and by the way to use them you must use windows with internet explorer...
I find the fact that people seem to forget that microsoft has been working towards making as much confusion on the net as possible. vbscript isn't something all browsers will run. They did their best to subvert and change java to be windows only. Took a law suit to stop that.
If you really think M$ will sit by and just go away because they don't want to play nice, you are very wrong.
A break up would do us all some good, including microsoft.
Interesting bit of info:
My boss called bsa the other day since we got a mailing from them. It was stated that the bsa wasn't interested in companies with less then 10 computers.
Now it would seem to me that if they only hit companies with 10 or more computers they are not really concerned with piracy but getting money. If M$ made better products and priced them more reasonably then they wouldn't be as big of a push about piracy. But I would but that it isn't the large companies that are pirating the software. I would imagine that the smaller companies are the ones using "illeagal" software. Big companies tend to have the money and don't mind writing off $$ to pay for thier software. They have the money.
But keep watching as the bsa targets every large corporation in Virgina and Maryland. And they will probably collect $$ from many of them for oversites and lost green peices of paper.
Most big companies don't pirate software, its the smaller ones that are more prone to do it.
actually lasyt time I looked there were about 5 of them.
I know there are quite a few books in several formats from the linux documnetation project. Although all the books are not completely up to date the material in them is quite good.
For new linux people this would seem like a good place to start since they cover most of the major issues of using/seting up/adminstrating linux.
That sounds good. Been using delphi since v2, and looking forward to kylix. I'm also curious obout the clx which (if like delphi vcl) should be quite amazing themselves.