You might be, but look at some of the overclocking nuts, case-modders and so on - those loonies are playing with thousands of dollars worth of kit with a good risk of letting the magic smoke out if they make a tiny mistake. There's sure to be enough people out there who want to mod the PSX and have either a lot of guts or more money than sense;)
The question shouldn't be whether they will or won't - they almost certainly will have to provide some of it - but whether the ACCC will fall for the claims SCO make about the code. Unless the ACCC demand independant verification of the history of the source, they only have SCO's word for where it came from, and given that these idiots even claim ownership of c++, I wouldn't bank on them giving accurate code history..
One thing you should do is make sure that they know you've been where they are now - and that means you know all the tricks. Even better if you can give them some examples of what you'd expect them to do, and tell them that you will check. Don't rely on the "we have this magical software that can detect cheating" trick - students don't believe it until you prove thta it can do it (I didn't believe the CS department work for had one when I was an undergrad, until I graduated and saw it from the other side)
If there's some way you can call cheaters out in front of the whole group, even better - for example, half way through a lab say things like "Oh, and can suchabody, thingummy and wossname stand up and tell everyone how they cheated on the last exercise please" (just make damn sure you know they did beforehand though!)
And tell them that is they are caught cheating once, they get zero for the exercise and if they are caught twice, they get zero for the course. And a permanent record of the cheat.
Take a leaf from the school or rat training. No, seriously: place a device on the user's desk that can dispense cheese, connect their chair up to the mains through a remotely controlled switch. Now set up your corporate intranet so that it randomly pops up boxes in a user's browser - if the user clicks on the right button, give them a piece of cheese. If they get it wrong, well, that's what the mains connection to the chair is for!
You'll have a group of individuals quite capable of navigating a moderate sized maze in no time!
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Or when one of the crackers you let in decides to expand the project a bit and take out the firewall boxes, any other boxes that are within reach and then leaves you with a bunch of fake details and a red face...
The latter. Obviously Google is based on alien technology and it is being used to train the minds of internet users around the world via subliminal messages encoded into the search results and modification of user's world-views through bizzare behaviour. They're here I tell you! Run for the hills!/me puts on a teflon-coated, high-density AFPB and runs MindGuard on his machine.
For some reason my writing is always better with a pencil than a pen. No idea why, but then I'd have to work to make it worse than my pen handwriting which usually makes doctor's writing look clear and well developed...
No, because [diatribe censored to protect the innocent and non-usenet readers] companies like SCO are too dangerous to simply ignore.
Once again I vote that we nuke their offices off the face of the planet. That's the only sure way to ensure they can't pull a stunt like this again, and on the plus side it'd probably make Utah more habitable.
Hey, don't worry about it - if slashdot DID run a "APOCOLYPSE! WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE!" story, it'd be denounced as a corporate plot, we'd get a dupe and then it'd turn out that the story was actually exaggerated and it is really only going to be a problem for somewhere nobody cares much about, like Utah...
"They're developing a game with multiplayer internet capabilities and internet-based content delivery. How are they supposed to not connect their development machines to the internet?"
Simple - you have one lot of machines on a private LAN with no connections at all to machines directly or indirectly connected to the internet. When you build a binary that needs testing across the internet, you put the binary, data files and everything except the bleedin sourcecode on a CD, carry it across to an internet capable machine and copy it off the CD.
Yes, you do have to test the game across the net, that doesn't mean that the sourcecode has to be anywhere near an internet capable box.
Because, generally, workers are more productive, happier and less stressed if you trust them, cut them some slack to organise themselves and don't isolate them from friends. In several situations I have encountered where the "internet only via one machine during your one 10 minute break a day" policy introduced productivity has gone down, workers have spent more time off ill and morale as a whole dropped through the floor.
After 180 days almost every game gets cracked? More like 180 minutes, in some cases I've heard of cracks being available before retailers are even allowed to put it on the shelf.
The real irony is that software houses know full well that copy protection is a pointless waste of time, publishers know it never works (and actually prevents something like 5% of legitimate buyers from using the game, simply because of drive incompatibilities) but they still require it. My guess is that this reduces insurance premiums...
Yes, using outlook is bad, but nowhere as monumentally stupid as allowing an asset as valuable as the HL2 source anywhere near a machine connected to the internet. When you have something as important as that and you really don't want it leaking, you make damn sure that development machines are isolated from any internat capable machine - both in terms of networking and physical access. Even if such isolation isn't possible, a decent firewall, IDS and maybe even an airgap with logging, log analysis software and alerts, combined with a network admin who has the faintest clue about how to handle intrusion attempts, could have prevented this even if they used outlook.
If someone builds a PC from parts, they would not have to pay the "recycling tax" on it up-front. So how does this law affect those "dudes" who don't "got a Dell"?
Exactly what I was wondering. I've never bought a pre-build computer in my life (and having seen the quality of some that friends have bought, I never will) - I build everything from parts and those parts are moved down through machines as I upgrade my big box, eventually ending up in the loft or the bin when they become obsolete. Unless Japan has a lower-than-average number of DIY computer builders (which I seriously doubt.. although the number of boxes it generates may put people off;)) they must have some kind of contingency in place..
The point was answering your question "Could you please point me to an actual thing that you can do with a non-modded PS2 other than playing games?". And I have a feeling you're being awkward just for the sake of it. As far as I can see, there is nothing from a hardware point of view that exempts a playstation from being classified as a computer. Sure, it's not a desktop PC, but it is still a computing machine.
Umm.. you can get a keyboard and mouse for it, you can use it for other things than games, internally it shares many concepts with a conventional computer. IMO a console is a computer even without this, in that it does what a computer does - it computes. It doesn't matter that, out of the box, it doesn't balance your books and write documents - it is as much a glorified calculator with fancy IO as the boxes sat around me at the moment. With the additional capabilities of the linux kit, exactly why is it not a "real" computer?
Maybe, maybe not. Perhaps if more company spokescritters said things like that, people might actually have to get their knowledge to a level where they understood it (it's not as is set theory is obscure mathematics).
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You might be, but look at some of the overclocking nuts, case-modders and so on - those loonies are playing with thousands of dollars worth of kit with a good risk of letting the magic smoke out if they make a tiny mistake. There's sure to be enough people out there who want to mod the PSX and have either a lot of guts or more money than sense ;)
The question shouldn't be whether they will or won't - they almost certainly will have to provide some of it - but whether the ACCC will fall for the claims SCO make about the code. Unless the ACCC demand independant verification of the history of the source, they only have SCO's word for where it came from, and given that these idiots even claim ownership of c++, I wouldn't bank on them giving accurate code history..
One thing you should do is make sure that they know you've been where they are now - and that means you know all the tricks. Even better if you can give them some examples of what you'd expect them to do, and tell them that you will check. Don't rely on the "we have this magical software that can detect cheating" trick - students don't believe it until you prove thta it can do it (I didn't believe the CS department work for had one when I was an undergrad, until I graduated and saw it from the other side)
If there's some way you can call cheaters out in front of the whole group, even better - for example, half way through a lab say things like "Oh, and can suchabody, thingummy and wossname stand up and tell everyone how they cheated on the last exercise please" (just make damn sure you know they did beforehand though!)
And tell them that is they are caught cheating once, they get zero for the exercise and if they are caught twice, they get zero for the course. And a permanent record of the cheat.
Take a leaf from the school or rat training. No, seriously: place a device on the user's desk that can dispense cheese, connect their chair up to the mains through a remotely controlled switch. Now set up your corporate intranet so that it randomly pops up boxes in a user's browser - if the user clicks on the right button, give them a piece of cheese. If they get it wrong, well, that's what the mains connection to the chair is for!
You'll have a group of individuals quite capable of navigating a moderate sized maze in no time!
No.
Or when one of the crackers you let in decides to expand the project a bit and take out the firewall boxes, any other boxes that are within reach and then leaves you with a bunch of fake details and a red face...
That's just a cunning ploy to make it fit in with the half of the population who are dumber than average.
The latter. Obviously Google is based on alien technology and it is being used to train the minds of internet users around the world via subliminal messages encoded into the search results and modification of user's world-views through bizzare behaviour. They're here I tell you! Run for the hills! /me puts on a teflon-coated, high-density AFPB and runs MindGuard on his machine.
For some reason my writing is always better with a pencil than a pen. No idea why, but then I'd have to work to make it worse than my pen handwriting which usually makes doctor's writing look clear and well developed...
No, because [diatribe censored to protect the innocent and non-usenet readers] companies like SCO are too dangerous to simply ignore.
Once again I vote that we nuke their offices off the face of the planet. That's the only sure way to ensure they can't pull a stunt like this again, and on the plus side it'd probably make Utah more habitable.
Hey, don't worry about it - if slashdot DID run a "APOCOLYPSE! WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE!" story, it'd be denounced as a corporate plot, we'd get a dupe and then it'd turn out that the story was actually exaggerated and it is really only going to be a problem for somewhere nobody cares much about, like Utah...
"They're developing a game with multiplayer internet capabilities and internet-based content delivery. How are they supposed to not connect their development machines to the internet?"
Simple - you have one lot of machines on a private LAN with no connections at all to machines directly or indirectly connected to the internet. When you build a binary that needs testing across the internet, you put the binary, data files and everything except the bleedin sourcecode on a CD, carry it across to an internet capable machine and copy it off the CD.
Yes, you do have to test the game across the net, that doesn't mean that the sourcecode has to be anywhere near an internet capable box.
"Why would workers need internet access at all?"
Because, generally, workers are more productive, happier and less stressed if you trust them, cut them some slack to organise themselves and don't isolate them from friends. In several situations I have encountered where the "internet only via one machine during your one 10 minute break a day" policy introduced productivity has gone down, workers have spent more time off ill and morale as a whole dropped through the floor.
After 180 days almost every game gets cracked? More like 180 minutes, in some cases I've heard of cracks being available before retailers are even allowed to put it on the shelf.
The real irony is that software houses know full well that copy protection is a pointless waste of time, publishers know it never works (and actually prevents something like 5% of legitimate buyers from using the game, simply because of drive incompatibilities) but they still require it. My guess is that this reduces insurance premiums...
Yes, using outlook is bad, but nowhere as monumentally stupid as allowing an asset as valuable as the HL2 source anywhere near a machine connected to the internet. When you have something as important as that and you really don't want it leaking, you make damn sure that development machines are isolated from any internat capable machine - both in terms of networking and physical access. Even if such isolation isn't possible, a decent firewall, IDS and maybe even an airgap with logging, log analysis software and alerts, combined with a network admin who has the faintest clue about how to handle intrusion attempts, could have prevented this even if they used outlook.
No, that's the multifont text and graphic utility.
Ah, but only if you live somewhere likely to be hit by hurricanes...
And more importantly, how soon after they are developed will villainsuply.com get one in stock? I'd find one very useful in The Plan...
If someone builds a PC from parts, they would not have to pay the "recycling tax" on it up-front. So how does this law affect those "dudes" who don't "got a Dell"?
;)) they must have some kind of contingency in place..
Exactly what I was wondering. I've never bought a pre-build computer in my life (and having seen the quality of some that friends have bought, I never will) - I build everything from parts and those parts are moved down through machines as I upgrade my big box, eventually ending up in the loft or the bin when they become obsolete. Unless Japan has a lower-than-average number of DIY computer builders (which I seriously doubt.. although the number of boxes it generates may put people off
The point was answering your question "Could you please point me to an actual thing that you can do with a non-modded PS2 other than playing games?". And I have a feeling you're being awkward just for the sake of it. As far as I can see, there is nothing from a hardware point of view that exempts a playstation from being classified as a computer. Sure, it's not a desktop PC, but it is still a computing machine.
Play music and watch DVDs spring readily to mind...
Umm.. you can get a keyboard and mouse for it, you can use it for other things than games, internally it shares many concepts with a conventional computer. IMO a console is a computer even without this, in that it does what a computer does - it computes. It doesn't matter that, out of the box, it doesn't balance your books and write documents - it is as much a glorified calculator with fancy IO as the boxes sat around me at the moment. With the additional capabilities of the linux kit, exactly why is it not a "real" computer?
Maybe, maybe not. Perhaps if more company spokescritters said things like that, people might actually have to get their knowledge to a level where they understood it (it's not as is set theory is obscure mathematics).
But it always rains here you insensitive clod!
(Yes, I live just outside Manchester, UK)
Just remember that, in the UK at least, if you're using biodiesel you have to pay tax on it, even if you make it yourself.
Yes, we really are that stupid over here.