My html skills are so 31337 that I can't do a link correctly. Let me try again. ES5's Forums. I was even smart enough to do a preview this time around.
I've helped beta test for them (they have public beta testing). It does what it says it does. You can go to their forums and ask people about it all. Is it a hoax? It certainly could end up being one, but so could all of the other p2p programs out there.
I don't help in the beta testing anymore though. A few of the developers who are regulars on the board acted moronic any time I submitted a bug to them. I had to tell them what my problem was quite a few times before they finally understood what I was talking about. I'd show my bug report to friends who hadn't used the program before and they perfectly understood what problem I was having.
I really don't like using the program either. For me, it's a memory hog (uses 16 MB), and I don't have the money to upgrade from 128 MB. Plus, it looks really bulky. Though, if I want a more secure p2p app, I know where to look.
I have as of yet to see any factual reports put out by a non media / RIAA sponsored company that shows that there is an actual decline in sales, and that piracy is the biggest reason. While I can imagine that it is a problem, by itself it is only an insignificant problem.
Yeah, some of the shit bands sell out, but guess what? People still buy their music and they still sell a lot. So what if they sold 4 million CD's, which is 2 million down from the last album? I wouldn't call that a failure. Perhaps a large portion of the fans just didn't like their latest stuff. It's possible. It's also possible that some people are waiting for the price to go down.
Besides, from those kind of reports, it seems like they look at a limited time period to see how much was sold, and then make a decision based on that. Just because the first couple week sales are down lower than expected doesn't mean much in the way of 'piracy'.
With older bands who put out newer and shittier music, their concerts are still gonna sell like hot cakes! Why? It's because people enjoy attending the live performance and seeing the band play some of their favorite songs. I'm sure people are willing to deal with hearing a few crappy songs here and there for that sole experience.
Are you even taking into consideration the sheer size of the east coast just in the US? That's 50 million in a secluded area. Now, take the entire east coast into the picture and suddenly 50 million doesn't seem like it's all that much. Hell, there's over 6 billion people on this planet alone. Now 50 million seems even smaller.
Ok, so that's five states. I'm waiting for the other two. Though I really don't consider Michigan to be on the east coast. Does it run on eastern time? Or central time?
And I still fail to see how it's a big deal. Yeah, a lot of people are without power. Why is that we need to be so dependenant on electricity? If people got along without electricity hundreds of years ago, we can get along without it now.
everyone, including slashdot, gets their panties in a wad about a stupid power outage. Big deal. I don't care that small portions of the east coast have no power.
I find it amazing in that a lot of the comments that I've read, people are bitching about Kazaa, yet it seems like they still use it.
You people do realize there are other P2P programs out there, right? So what if Kazaa has the biggest catalog? There are other P2P programs out there with a lot of people sharing. With some of them, you'll have an easier time finding what you want.
The people who use Kazaa but bitch about it all the time must be gluttons for punishment.
I know a little something about electronics (I'm about to graduate from ITT-Tech with a degree in electronics), and I've never noticed any power supply ever using it's full capacity (in this case, wattage) unless it needed to do so.
So my question still stands. How would a smaller power supply being used at it's limit load be cheaper than a bigger power supply being used (putting out as much as the smaller one)?
"PSUs also run more efficiently at full load too, so it's cheaper on the electric bill in the long run."
By full load, I'm assuming at maximum output no matter how you look at it (correct me if I'm wrong).
So how is this cheaper? Wouldn't a bigger power supply use up the same amount as the smaller one? I just can't figure out how it would be cheaper than any other power supply.
I wonder why it was modded down as flamebait. It just really strikes me as odd that someone would do that. It's really not flamebait. Had the person who modded down the post of mine read and fully comprehended what I was responding to, they'd see that 'The Spie' basically asked where I got my information from (It was an implication of sorts).
And excuse me for having a crazy thought like Lessig being more knowledgable on Public Domain material than an anonymous slashdot poster.
Hey, who knows, maybe Lessig is wrong, but if he is, I'd at least like to see some links backing this up. I don't like spreading around misinformation, and I refuse to take what some anonymous slashdotter said as fact.
(Watch this get modded down for no good reason as well, besides being a bit off-topic.)
Mickey Mouse was based on something that was in Public Domain (I forget what it was... I think it was something like steamboat willy). Just imagine if that character wasn't in public domain at the time! It sure would have hurt disney wouldn't it?
Any perpetual copyright is hurting everyone's creativity in some form or another, so your comment is rather assinine.
The dip that was reported was done over the fourth of july weekend. Of course there's going to be less people online during that time. Just more propaganda to fuel their machine, that's all it was.
You're right, there's nothing wrong with protecting your revenue interest, but the issue is much deeper than you make it out to be.
Here we have an organization repeatedly talking about protecting artists, etc... all the while they screw them over and over again.
On top of that, they're always itching to have draconian standards as laws so they can get EVEN MORE power!
And if that isn't enough, the majority of their claims about piracy are completel lies! They've lied to the government many times about this whole situation and it's not doing jack shit about it.
While some people may be pirating for no good reason, I'm willing to bet the majority have a valid reason for breaking the law.
There's some songs that are very old that you can't buy in stores anymore, or anywhere else for that matter. How do you propose people get them?
Or what if you bought a CD and sometime down the line it doesn't work anymore? How you are supposed to recover that if you didn't back it up first? I've lost many CD's long before burners came out.
Or hey, maybe the person is doing this stuff in protest to the RIAA's actions. IMHO, breaking the law is prefectly a viable option as a form of protest when it comes down to protecting your rights.
That would be called 'copyright infringement' (or so the RIAA goons claim, you might want to look into this yourself) unless the copyright holder says it's ok. I know, the law sucks. Though I don't see what's going to stop you from doing it illegally.
As far as I know, they haven't targetted ANY AOL customers.
I'm sure if they targetted AOL customers, AOL might become angry with them. Still, if the RIAA TRUELY were about what they claim to be about, they'd go after AOL customers as well.
You see this too commonly anymore in stories that deal with copyright infringement. You can only consider it stealing if you haven't paid for yet it... but then you're only stealing money from the copyright holders pocket.
And maybe, just maybe there wouldn't be all of this "theft" going on if copyright lengths weren't so fucking long! Granted that's not the reason everyone does it, but I'm positive it's one of the reasons some people do it.
Jail one person for p2p and there will be an even bigger backlash than what there is right now. I guarantee it.
I'm also sick of this idea that you can steal an idea, or legally own an idea. It's impossible. Once you have an idea and let it out, anyone and everyone can and probably will consume it in some form or another. The only thing you can do with an idea is legally own the right to profit from it.
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My html skills are so 31337 that I can't do a link correctly. Let me try again. ES5's Forums. I was even smart enough to do a preview this time around.
I've helped beta test for them (they have public beta testing). It does what it says it does. You can go to their forums and ask people about it all. Is it a hoax? It certainly could end up being one, but so could all of the other p2p programs out there.
I don't help in the beta testing anymore though. A few of the developers who are regulars on the board acted moronic any time I submitted a bug to them. I had to tell them what my problem was quite a few times before they finally understood what I was talking about. I'd show my bug report to friends who hadn't used the program before and they perfectly understood what problem I was having.
I really don't like using the program either. For me, it's a memory hog (uses 16 MB), and I don't have the money to upgrade from 128 MB. Plus, it looks really bulky. Though, if I want a more secure p2p app, I know where to look.
I have as of yet to see any factual reports put out by a non media / RIAA sponsored company that shows that there is an actual decline in sales, and that piracy is the biggest reason. While I can imagine that it is a problem, by itself it is only an insignificant problem.
Yeah, some of the shit bands sell out, but guess what? People still buy their music and they still sell a lot. So what if they sold 4 million CD's, which is 2 million down from the last album? I wouldn't call that a failure. Perhaps a large portion of the fans just didn't like their latest stuff. It's possible. It's also possible that some people are waiting for the price to go down.
Besides, from those kind of reports, it seems like they look at a limited time period to see how much was sold, and then make a decision based on that. Just because the first couple week sales are down lower than expected doesn't mean much in the way of 'piracy'.
With older bands who put out newer and shittier music, their concerts are still gonna sell like hot cakes! Why? It's because people enjoy attending the live performance and seeing the band play some of their favorite songs. I'm sure people are willing to deal with hearing a few crappy songs here and there for that sole experience.
And what point is that? That HAM radio isn't important, or it's ok to let it go by the wayside for things that seem pretty trivial?
Or did you mean the point where newer technologies need to be developed where both things can coincide?
Are you even taking into consideration the sheer size of the east coast just in the US? That's 50 million in a secluded area. Now, take the entire east coast into the picture and suddenly 50 million doesn't seem like it's all that much. Hell, there's over 6 billion people on this planet alone. Now 50 million seems even smaller.
Ok, so that's five states. I'm waiting for the other two. Though I really don't consider Michigan to be on the east coast. Does it run on eastern time? Or central time?
And I still fail to see how it's a big deal. Yeah, a lot of people are without power. Why is that we need to be so dependenant on electricity? If people got along without electricity hundreds of years ago, we can get along without it now.
50 million really isn't that much compared to the number of people who live on the east coast.
I'm sorry, and what states besides, New York, New Jersey, Connecticiut, and Ohio were affected? I don't even care about American Jr.
I live in PA and nothing wrong here.
Once again, big fucking deal. Oh, and you should really try harder at insulting.
everyone, including slashdot, gets their panties in a wad about a stupid power outage. Big deal. I don't care that small portions of the east coast have no power.
Yes, but only on the second tuesday of every week.
I find it amazing in that a lot of the comments that I've read, people are bitching about Kazaa, yet it seems like they still use it.
You people do realize there are other P2P programs out there, right? So what if Kazaa has the biggest catalog? There are other P2P programs out there with a lot of people sharing. With some of them, you'll have an easier time finding what you want.
The people who use Kazaa but bitch about it all the time must be gluttons for punishment.
I know a little something about electronics (I'm about to graduate from ITT-Tech with a degree in electronics), and I've never noticed any power supply ever using it's full capacity (in this case, wattage) unless it needed to do so.
So my question still stands. How would a smaller power supply being used at it's limit load be cheaper than a bigger power supply being used (putting out as much as the smaller one)?
"PSUs also run more efficiently at full load too, so it's cheaper on the electric bill in the long run."
By full load, I'm assuming at maximum output no matter how you look at it (correct me if I'm wrong).
So how is this cheaper? Wouldn't a bigger power supply use up the same amount as the smaller one? I just can't figure out how it would be cheaper than any other power supply.
It's obvious you want to play a game of semantics. The same person should call you out on the same thing.
Nice job of reading comprehension. I even clearly stated that I wasn't sure exactly where the idea of Mickey Mouse came from.
I wonder why it was modded down as flamebait. It just really strikes me as odd that someone would do that. It's really not flamebait. Had the person who modded down the post of mine read and fully comprehended what I was responding to, they'd see that 'The Spie' basically asked where I got my information from (It was an implication of sorts).
And excuse me for having a crazy thought like Lessig being more knowledgable on Public Domain material than an anonymous slashdot poster.
Hey, who knows, maybe Lessig is wrong, but if he is, I'd at least like to see some links backing this up. I don't like spreading around misinformation, and I refuse to take what some anonymous slashdotter said as fact.
(Watch this get modded down for no good reason as well, besides being a bit off-topic.)
I got that from something Lawerence Lessig did. It was done completely in flash. I'm sure he would have a better clue than you would.
Mickey Mouse was based on something that was in Public Domain (I forget what it was... I think it was something like steamboat willy). Just imagine if that character wasn't in public domain at the time! It sure would have hurt disney wouldn't it? Any perpetual copyright is hurting everyone's creativity in some form or another, so your comment is rather assinine.
The dip that was reported was done over the fourth of july weekend. Of course there's going to be less people online during that time. Just more propaganda to fuel their machine, that's all it was.
You're right, there's nothing wrong with protecting your revenue interest, but the issue is much deeper than you make it out to be.
Here we have an organization repeatedly talking about protecting artists, etc... all the while they screw them over and over again.
On top of that, they're always itching to have draconian standards as laws so they can get EVEN MORE power!
And if that isn't enough, the majority of their claims about piracy are completel lies! They've lied to the government many times about this whole situation and it's not doing jack shit about it.
While some people may be pirating for no good reason, I'm willing to bet the majority have a valid reason for breaking the law.
There's some songs that are very old that you can't buy in stores anymore, or anywhere else for that matter. How do you propose people get them?
Or what if you bought a CD and sometime down the line it doesn't work anymore? How you are supposed to recover that if you didn't back it up first? I've lost many CD's long before burners came out.
Or hey, maybe the person is doing this stuff in protest to the RIAA's actions. IMHO, breaking the law is prefectly a viable option as a form of protest when it comes down to protecting your rights.
This will describe A LOT of the p2p users.
That would be called 'copyright infringement' (or so the RIAA goons claim, you might want to look into this yourself) unless the copyright holder says it's ok. I know, the law sucks. Though I don't see what's going to stop you from doing it illegally.
As far as I know, they haven't targetted ANY AOL customers.
I'm sure if they targetted AOL customers, AOL might become angry with them. Still, if the RIAA TRUELY were about what they claim to be about, they'd go after AOL customers as well.
You see this too commonly anymore in stories that deal with copyright infringement. You can only consider it stealing if you haven't paid for yet it... but then you're only stealing money from the copyright holders pocket.
And maybe, just maybe there wouldn't be all of this "theft" going on if copyright lengths weren't so fucking long! Granted that's not the reason everyone does it, but I'm positive it's one of the reasons some people do it.
Jail one person for p2p and there will be an even bigger backlash than what there is right now. I guarantee it.
I'm also sick of this idea that you can steal an idea, or legally own an idea. It's impossible. Once you have an idea and let it out, anyone and everyone can and probably will consume it in some form or another. The only thing you can do with an idea is legally own the right to profit from it.
I wonder how many UFO sightings will be reported because of this.
Furthermore, I wonder how many conspiracy theories will run rampant because of this.
I'm sure you all remember that infamous spyware component, gator. This sounds like the exact same thing Gator does, but in a less offensive way.