Interface Builder under OPENSTEP actually drew a line from where you started the drag to the object,
Unfortunately, I believe Apple/NeXT has a patent on that. And there are also patents on the fancy Pantone color system that Apple uses. Perhaps we need a "Don't blame me -- I voted for RMS!" bumper sticker...
But Gnome and KDE are development and desktop environments (like GNUstep). WindowMaker is just a window manager; I've seen plenty of screenshots of people running Gnome and KDE applications/desktops along with WindowMaker as a window manager.
Personally, I like it because it's light, fast, and doesn't have overwrought gothic window borders with pictures of demons for buttons.:-)
List selector widgets: You know the ones, the NeXT file manager used them. They need horizontal scrollbars usually. As far as GUIs go that's not a very efficient or pretty way to manage things. NeXT had some very good ideas. That wasn't one of them. The world has moved on.
Um, Mac OS X still has these, if you're talking about what I think you're talking about
Floating menus: MacOS puts the app menus across the top of the screen to "obey Fitt's law", most everyone else has them at the top of the application. GNUstep kindly has them as bizarre free floating objects. Once again, not one of NeXT's better ideas. Can't we move on from slavishly copying NeXT?
It's only bad if you use them as floating menus. Back in the old days, NeXT users had them hidden by default and just popped them up with the mouse. This is actually *easier* than the Mac menubar approach. Granted, that's not obvious at first, but that's the best way to do it. The menu is always where your mouse pointer is--no need to move *at all*.
It should be noted, however, that all look and feel can be changed rather easily. Due to the dynamic nature of Objective-C and OpenStep--and the -gui/-back split in GNUstep--completely changing the look and feel just requires creating a bundle to do it. Somebody seems to be working on a theme engine already.
Heh, WindowMaker isn't the official GNUstep window manager. It's the "official" GNUstep window manager.:-)
It's actually a totally separate project, with code written in straight C. I think the only sense in which it's the GNUstep window manager is that it emulates the basic NeXT desktop paradigm and there are a few tweaks to work better with GNUstep applications.
Ya know, iD has an online auth system that just lets you in if the master server goes down and you can play single player offline. And they seem to do a fine job with making sure the CD keys are unique. And yet, Carmack can afford to start an aerospace business and blow up Ferraris. Perhaps draconian measures are not necessary to make a decent profit?
And I'm simply disgusted at what Sierra became after the company was sold. Damn idiot Frenchmen...
Is it a purely defensive move? Or is the the "beginning of the end" of the PC industry as we knew it?
I don't know. But the whole thing is starting to remind me of the end of a theatrical production when all the actors come out on stage. Who's next, Charles Babbage?
So I have to suffer through crappy jokes modded up to +5 because some slashbot says 'M$'? You've got a future as the leader of an oppressive military regime...
And they're lying anyway. You can still get Borland tools for Windows. Hell, you can still run NeXT ProjectBuilder and InterfaceBuilder on Windows if you can find an old copy of YellowBox. I've done it.
In addition, you should refrain from calling your minions by names.
Oh, posh. You just have to choose the names carefully. I find "dickface" particularly effective. But you are encouraged to come up with your own. If you just blindly accept the research of others, you will never scale the heights of administrative skill.
Don't forget the FBI. They also war with the CIA and, most likely, the NSA too. Damn inter-agency rivalries. But it has proved to be useful on occasion. Operation Solo probably succeeded because the FBI managed to shut the nosy CIA guys out for the duration.
God, I love TimeCube. Any time I feel depressed, I go read a couple of paragraphs and laugh my ass off. "Cubeless academia spews deceit and plunders natural resources." Obviously a Kerry voter...
...I immediately stop reading. It's just such a silly old cliche. Unless someone takes money to espouse a point of view with which they disagree, they have NOT 'sold out.'
A (good) software company has skill at managing software projects and providing design, development, and QA with leadership born of hard-won experience. Granted, they can still screw things up. But they have a better chance than your local insurance office or gas company.
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Thanks for finally responding to all the defenders of Communism whose understanding of it comes from bumper stickers and protest signs. I always snicker when I hear people talking about "a true Communist state." It quickly becomes clear that they not only haven't read the source documents, but they weren't even listening in their introductory Comparative Politics class.;-)
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ANd it works half-way on Windows. The base (non-gui) classes work perfectly. The gui classes are tempermental, but work.
Unfortunately, I believe Apple/NeXT has a patent on that. And there are also patents on the fancy Pantone color system that Apple uses. Perhaps we need a "Don't blame me -- I voted for RMS!" bumper sticker...
Personally, I like it because it's light, fast, and doesn't have overwrought gothic window borders with pictures of demons for buttons. :-)
Um, Mac OS X still has these, if you're talking about what I think you're talking about
Floating menus: MacOS puts the app menus across the top of the screen to "obey Fitt's law", most everyone else has them at the top of the application. GNUstep kindly has them as bizarre free floating objects. Once again, not one of NeXT's better ideas. Can't we move on from slavishly copying NeXT?
It's only bad if you use them as floating menus. Back in the old days, NeXT users had them hidden by default and just popped them up with the mouse. This is actually *easier* than the Mac menubar approach. Granted, that's not obvious at first, but that's the best way to do it. The menu is always where your mouse pointer is--no need to move *at all*.
It should be noted, however, that all look and feel can be changed rather easily. Due to the dynamic nature of Objective-C and OpenStep--and the -gui/-back split in GNUstep--completely changing the look and feel just requires creating a bundle to do it. Somebody seems to be working on a theme engine already.
It's actually a totally separate project, with code written in straight C. I think the only sense in which it's the GNUstep window manager is that it emulates the basic NeXT desktop paradigm and there are a few tweaks to work better with GNUstep applications.
So you're saying that the slashdotters joking about child porn are professional child porn investigators?
And I'm simply disgusted at what Sierra became after the company was sold. Damn idiot Frenchmen...
Is it a purely defensive move? Or is the the "beginning of the end" of the PC industry as we knew it?
I don't know. But the whole thing is starting to remind me of the end of a theatrical production when all the actors come out on stage. Who's next, Charles Babbage?
It usually goes the other way. Tell your boss to shave his d***.
So I have to suffer through crappy jokes modded up to +5 because some slashbot says 'M$'? You've got a future as the leader of an oppressive military regime...
Also, their GUI classes have "properties" in addition to regular data members. And I think that some of their C++ classes are not really classes.
And they're lying anyway. You can still get Borland tools for Windows. Hell, you can still run NeXT ProjectBuilder and InterfaceBuilder on Windows if you can find an old copy of YellowBox. I've done it.
Oh, posh. You just have to choose the names carefully. I find "dickface" particularly effective. But you are encouraged to come up with your own. If you just blindly accept the research of others, you will never scale the heights of administrative skill.
Why, it would slice like a fuckin' hammer, of course!
Don't forget the FBI. They also war with the CIA and, most likely, the NSA too. Damn inter-agency rivalries. But it has proved to be useful on occasion. Operation Solo probably succeeded because the FBI managed to shut the nosy CIA guys out for the duration.
God, I love TimeCube. Any time I feel depressed, I go read a couple of paragraphs and laugh my ass off. "Cubeless academia spews deceit and plunders natural resources." Obviously a Kerry voter...
...I immediately stop reading. It's just such a silly old cliche. Unless someone takes money to espouse a point of view with which they disagree, they have NOT 'sold out.'
A (good) software company has skill at managing software projects and providing design, development, and QA with leadership born of hard-won experience. Granted, they can still screw things up. But they have a better chance than your local insurance office or gas company.
I think this one is the most accurate.
Thanks for finally responding to all the defenders of Communism whose understanding of it comes from bumper stickers and protest signs. I always snicker when I hear people talking about "a true Communist state." It quickly becomes clear that they not only haven't read the source documents, but they weren't even listening in their introductory Comparative Politics class. ;-)
That's how many swallows make a hummer. Totally different thing...
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They would sue YOU.
Please, allow me to rephrase and condense the parent's post that somehow got modded +4 funny.
"I read War & Peace. It's about alien ducks with light sabers who cut off your dick. Well, that's what *I* read into it anyway."
A dreaming god. And it's due to wake up this Friday at 2:00 PM.