Honestly, you've got to be in the *extreme* minority there. I'm not denying there are some people out there running nothing but Linux on their machine(s) and only playing the games that run natively on it.
Raises hand. Actually, I'm overjoyed at the selection of games I have available. All of iD software's releases can be run natively. I've played tons of RtCW and ET. Currently, I'm kickin' it old school with Quakeforge. And then there's MAME. That can chew up so much productive time...
I admit my ignorance in this field but wasn't SDL supposed to do exactly what you're talking about? I suppose it's not actively developed anymore though. Loki was behind it, I believe.
Of course. But that wasn't what was said. Besides, an argument about atmosphere would be more appropriate for the word "derivitave" (which is the way the word is usually used in the arts).
1) The sending and recieving process don't need to know about each other before hand 2) You can easily broadcast events to all listeners 3) Much easier to send arbitary data 4) Much easier to manage; no need to mess with sockets APIs 5) Much safer; no need to share memory between process.
It sounds like you want OpenStep/Cocoa to me. But then, I think NeXT pretty much solved *all* the major problems with UNIX 15 years ago.:-)
I'm not defending the guy's argument because I've never played the game. But the presence of a new feature (the terminals) does not mean a game is "not derivatave."
I'm browsing at +1 and I haven't seen anything nasty yet. But I'm coming to this late (after a lot of moderation has been done) and I always browse sorted by score.
I still don't get it. I just can't wrap my head around people being bothered by this. People talk on cell phones around me all the time and it's not a problem. The only time I even find it unusual is when the guy at the urinal next to me is talking on the phone. That's kind of creepy.
Your understanding of the term "private school" seems to be a bit ignorant. Private schools (the good ones, at any rate) are usually religious schools that offer the poor but bright kids a shot at a rigorous education.
Damned cool idea to embrace private schools and homeschoolers, although the latter might be a bit of a pain to hunt down (compared to finding the Schools section in the yellow pages).
Sometimes, yes. But they're banding together more often these days for purposes just like this.
However, this guy is from the state gov't, and, assuming they're using any resources from their employer, it'd be a big mistake to be exclusive about it.
Yeah, I should have been more clear. I was intending to suggest something like what you went on to discuss in more detail. They could use the after-school "club time" for the public school kids. I don't think that would cause a problem.
Since everybody else in this thread seems to be focusing on the silly (though, sadly, accurate) let me suggest that you perhaps get involved with a home-school group or a *worthwhile* private school. You're much more likely to get the sincerely interested kids. You could also have interested public school kids come out. Apparently, that's now allowed, though I don't have all the legal details.
Still a shame. It would be nice if public companies did concern themselves with providing services to the public. Of course they don't, which is a pity.
Well, it's the shareholders who pay the bills.:-) Which is one reason (among many) I would never take a company public if I ran one.
Ah, in addition. My father-in-law is well into his fifties. Most companies will not want to hire someone his age.
Yep. Does he live in a state where a teaching license is not required? His experience could be very beneficial to some school kids. If he is willing to put up with the school system. Of course, there are usually some pretty good private schools, if he's amenable to the idea. He would be more likely to get kids that are actually interested in learning something.
Public companies work for the shareholders--NOT the customers or employees. Many folks don't seem to realize that.
That being said, if the comments on this thread are accurate, PeopleSoft will be around well past 2005. Your father-in-law might want to start retraining, however. That's how tech works.
They don't write anything. They "buy" all their products from third parties and rebrand them. Then, they maintain them and gradually add features.
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Cocoa is a set of object-oriented frameworks. GNUstep is a portable LGPL'd implementation of the same frameworks. So yes: you can take your source code and build it with GNUstep on UNIX systems. There are some caveats (some things aren't supported--mostly for IP reasons) and some things simply have to be done differently (Makefiles, GUIs). But it works.
One very promising framework is Renaissance. It's an XML-based format for describing user interfaces. It builds the interface at runtime, just like a NIB file does. But it has autolayout and is crossplatform.
I also use Gentoo, but I always build GNUstep from CVS (just because there are always a lot of bugfixes and new features and it hasn't completely stabilized yet). I have a shell script that updates and goes through the entire core tree, building all the frameworks and components that I use.
I believe that somebody has been playing with ebuilds, however. The real problem for all of this is that GNUstep isn't really a desktop yet.
Before Windows 95 was released, MS paid NeXT for the rights to use the look.
Many people, including yours truly, still find the NeXT look to be very pleasant. But there is a theme engine. Look at some of the files named screenshot_theme##.png. Additionally, there's a Mac Menu bundle. It all still needs work, but it's coming along.
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Raises hand. Actually, I'm overjoyed at the selection of games I have available. All of iD software's releases can be run natively. I've played tons of RtCW and ET. Currently, I'm kickin' it old school with Quakeforge. And then there's MAME. That can chew up so much productive time...
I admit my ignorance in this field but wasn't SDL supposed to do exactly what you're talking about? I suppose it's not actively developed anymore though. Loki was behind it, I believe.
Of course. But that wasn't what was said. Besides, an argument about atmosphere would be more appropriate for the word "derivitave" (which is the way the word is usually used in the arts).
Me too. It reminds me of Dr. Evil.
It sounds like you want OpenStep/Cocoa to me. But then, I think NeXT pretty much solved *all* the major problems with UNIX 15 years ago. :-)
I didn't call it derivitave. I just thought the argument that "Hey, it has consoles, it's not derivitave!" was silly.
I'm not defending the guy's argument because I've never played the game. But the presence of a new feature (the terminals) does not mean a game is "not derivatave."
He should have stuck to playing Bertie Wooster.
I'm browsing at +1 and I haven't seen anything nasty yet. But I'm coming to this late (after a lot of moderation has been done) and I always browse sorted by score.
I still don't get it. I just can't wrap my head around people being bothered by this. People talk on cell phones around me all the time and it's not a problem. The only time I even find it unusual is when the guy at the urinal next to me is talking on the phone. That's kind of creepy.
Your understanding of the term "private school" seems to be a bit ignorant. Private schools (the good ones, at any rate) are usually religious schools that offer the poor but bright kids a shot at a rigorous education.
Sometimes, yes. But they're banding together more often these days for purposes just like this.
However, this guy is from the state gov't, and, assuming they're using any resources from their employer, it'd be a big mistake to be exclusive about it.
Yeah, I should have been more clear. I was intending to suggest something like what you went on to discuss in more detail. They could use the after-school "club time" for the public school kids. I don't think that would cause a problem.
Since everybody else in this thread seems to be focusing on the silly (though, sadly, accurate) let me suggest that you perhaps get involved with a home-school group or a *worthwhile* private school. You're much more likely to get the sincerely interested kids. You could also have interested public school kids come out. Apparently, that's now allowed, though I don't have all the legal details.
Well, it's the shareholders who pay the bills. :-) Which is one reason (among many) I would never take a company public if I ran one.
Ah, in addition. My father-in-law is well into his fifties. Most companies will not want to hire someone his age.
Yep. Does he live in a state where a teaching license is not required? His experience could be very beneficial to some school kids. If he is willing to put up with the school system. Of course, there are usually some pretty good private schools, if he's amenable to the idea. He would be more likely to get kids that are actually interested in learning something.
Suggestion: instead of whining, become an investor and get in on the goods.
Public companies work for the shareholders--NOT the customers or employees. Many folks don't seem to realize that.
That being said, if the comments on this thread are accurate, PeopleSoft will be around well past 2005. Your father-in-law might want to start retraining, however. That's how tech works.
Yeah, but how many poor helpless factory workers, truck drivers, and store clerks have you put out on the street, you heartless oppressor!?
Where's all that "a 20% performance hit is not a big deal" crap now, bigmouth? :-)
Yeah, I'm a notoriously poor speller.
They don't write anything. They "buy" all their products from third parties and rebrand them. Then, they maintain them and gradually add features.
One very promising framework is Renaissance. It's an XML-based format for describing user interfaces. It builds the interface at runtime, just like a NIB file does. But it has autolayout and is crossplatform.
I believe that somebody has been playing with ebuilds, however. The real problem for all of this is that GNUstep isn't really a desktop yet.
:-)
Before Windows 95 was released, MS paid NeXT for the rights to use the look.
Many people, including yours truly, still find the NeXT look to be very pleasant. But there is a theme engine. Look at some of the files named screenshot_theme##.png. Additionally, there's a Mac Menu bundle. It all still needs work, but it's coming along.
Just out of curiosity, why does your page say "next" November? Has it just been up for a while?
Look ma--no hands!