In some ways your right. That is unfortunately the downside of the Capitalist society in that the more minor laws tend to be enforced by the people who have an interest in seeing them enforced. This is particulary prevelent in things like Patent law in which unless you are a large company, you are screwed if some accuses you of breaking a patent, even if its a really obvious one.
This shouldnt however stop the major laws being enforced on an even handed basis.
What the movie companies are doing here is little different from the people who pay to have video cameras installed in their home to try to catch burglers. (Dont forget, technically just copying the film is a crime, so even if the boy involved hadnt distributed it (And only a real moron could believe that he wasnt going to) he had comitted a crime)
Now whether you believe that it is right or wrong, the fact is he is still committed a crime. I think its good that the Movie companies are doing much of the legwork for the cops.
As the movie companies are paying for enforcing the law in this case yes, thats fine.
As you obviously care about this so much, why dont you present the cops with a box of Night vision goggles. I'm sure they would be very greatful.
The cops are underfunded. They always are. Yes, the cops should be able to buy things like this, but in real life if they wanted things like that they would have to get private individuals to pay for it because there isnt the budget.
BTW, here is an update on the Law. Murder is *not* ok and the cops try to find murderers to the best of their ability and resources. It just happens to be easier to catch someone with a camcorder in a movie theitre, because you have a good idea on where to start looking for them.
Grow up. This boy was a criminal. He is too young to go to jail in the US, more's the pity. He was just unlucky enough to get caught.
Out of interest, exactly how would night vision goggles help the police to find murderers? indeed The only use for night vision goggles i can think of is while chasing someone down a very dark alley of some kind, during which, For them to be useful, the perp involved would also be blind without them.
If there was enough economic incentive to either local government or to businesses with lobbying power, noise filters could be mandated for homes and businesses. But that's unlikely, what with traditional ISPs and broadband providers lobbying against it.
Unfortunately yes, these things to tend to follow the people with the money:-(
Of course there is always IP over carrier pigeon, Dont know if that bitrate would count as broadband though.
There is also of course the best solution of the lot if you can manage it, "Ip over a b**dy great pile of CDs in the back of a Pickup" which pretty much has the monopoly on very high bandwith transmittion.
Crappy ping time tho.:-)
UPSs are great for keeping random noise out of your own mains circuits, but for low power BB transmittion over mains to work, you need it the noise kept out of the entire transmission medium right back to the substation (Or further if you are trying to transmit over the pylons), and as nice as that would be, its not really feasable, especially in industrial areas.
Although that will stop noise comming into your house, for this to work, you would need to stop noice getting into the entire distribution network which means *everyone* would need to use one. No exceptions.
There is also the small matter that this can be expected to filter out the broadband signal as well (As its not likely to be a 60hz Square wave). which sort of defeats the object:-)
Most AC appliances do not really care about the state of the power signal. Even things like Computer equipment can take quite a bit of punishment and are only really affected by large power spikes such as a lightening strike because they push the relative voltage up by quite a lot, even if only for an instant. Modern switched mode power supplies are particular affected by this sort of thing because the components they use tend to be only barely rated for the input they take.
That may be, but this trial was to do with piggybacked broadband signals as indeed was the attempt i was referencing.
I doubt that the optical fibre inside the cable method will get very far quickly because of the expense of the cable involved and the fact that it would involve quite a large re-stringing of rather a lot of the power distribution network.
Dunno what the lifespan of these wires is usually though. If it happens reasonable regularly (Ie 25 years or so) i suppose it could be justified.
I *do* know that the lifespan of Optical fibres is supposed to be about 25 years under normal circumstances, and that doesnt account for the strain of the constant contraction and relaxation of the actual conductor it would be with, which would put more strain on the fibre.
If the lifespan of the conductors is significantly more than the expected lifespan of the fibre, i think there would be problems.
I did however remember reading about someone proposing wrapping optical fibres *around* the conductors with a machine that travels along the cables after they have been hung. That could be done with cables already in use.
It is however a significant expense, and may not actually be cheaper than running the cables along the ground. The reason the broadband-over-power lines method was first suggested was as an easy way to utilise existing infrastructure and therefore not have to go to the expense of building the physical transport part of the network.
Yes, you can get them from Tandy or Radio shack. I have also seen Baby monitors you can plug in at a socket, but they only go a hundred or so feet at the most.
The problem is that Power lines tend to be very noisy which means you have to put more power in to make your signal discernable at a distance, or your signal will be swamped by the noise.
In a perfect world you could add an extra High frequency signal to the power signal which could easilly be filtered out, but in the real world this is complicated by noise from Electric motors, high frequency Electronics such as computers and mobile phones and the environment in general such as Storms. You also have to either up the signal in combination with the distance or add more expensive repeaters at decreasing intervals.
The stronger the signal, the more leakage on RF frequencies.
This is exactly the same reason that a Broadband over power lines experiment was given up by one of the UKs power providers (The predecessor to Scottish power I think).
I wonder why someone thaught it would be different in the US, even with its more stringent laws about RF interference.
Do these people not do basic searches on prior work?
The term "Bug" had been in use in electronic circles far before then.
This was the first recorded actual bug as related to digital computing equipment, but there wasnt that much Digital computing equipment around before then.
But, what about the sonic boom? I mean, even a small thing crossing the speed barrier makes a noise (ref: a bullwhip) -- how loud will it be on deck with n of these things breaking the sound barrier every 10 seconds?
Well when the youth of today finally signs on for Naval service, they wont be able to hear loud noises anyway after heving their ears pre-trained using Walkmans or MP3 players on full blast down their lug holes.
(Assume at this point i am waving about a walking stick)
Perhaps the Navy should consider supplying sailors with ear protectors with built in iPods filled with Martial music.
ooh oooh here we go again.
Perhaps you forgot to consider Delphi/Kylix/C++ builder, Its IDE is far better than anything MS has come up with so far IHMO. Admittedly the best versions are not free, but *NO* versions of Visual studio is free.
In my experiance, people who havent tried Delphi/Kylix/C++ builder are usually the ones berating it.
MS has killed Visual J++, so the borland and sun tools win there by default, Which leaves Visual basic.
Now I have to admit that there are no VB language tools are on Linux, But i actually consider that a good thing.
I had this problem as well when i had a internal ADSL modem in my old windows XP box.
The solution i came up with is to route everything through a Linux box. I used the internet connection on my Linux box and set a connection up with network card and a cross over cable, effectively using the Linux box as a NAT box.
These days, i have a dedicated ADSL NAT (Binatone ADSL 2000) box which doesnt let though a great deal by default, so its relatively safe unless a machine at the wrong side of the network is infected.
Graham
Same here in the UK with some speed cameras. Thats why you cant get wierd font numberplates any more, cos they are not very clear (And difficult to OCR)
Actually, i suspect it may be more along the lines of they realise where the current SCO case is going, and are trying to appeal to Open source developers again.
They dont seem to have had a very good press recently on a variety of points.
Its unlikey to happen soon, and even in the very unlikely worst case of a SCO victory, they can just say "Well we cant anymore" and they have at least the cudos for trying so they really cant loose.
I have to say even with the recent announcements on Java and such like, i still wouldnt mind a nice multi-way Solaris box on my desktop instead of my Dell, no matter what they say.
I vaiguely remember that the Amiga OS 3 had an application called Multiview which allowed extensible embedded viewing of almost everything with the correct plugins (Called datatypes if I remember correctly). I dunno if this is the same thing though, but i think it predates the Web completely (Although only by a year or two).
Hmm, have to dig out my old Amiga and check.
This is most definately *NOT* funny, and only someone from a country that still supports the Death penalty for anything could find this funny.
I hate spam (And Theftware erm.. scamware... erm scumware.. erm.. gator too) with a passion, Threatening actual physical harm to spammers as opposed to 5-10 in the clink is just not on.
I dont know what Chinas record on this sort of things is (From a quick googling it seems pretty bad), but I doubt they wouldnt execute such people, probably just fine them (Its not after all political or serious crime related).
Its a shocking indightment of modern society that people are willing to joke about such things in trivial manner.
Hell, i'm, starting to sound like my grandad. Time to stop now.
I'm surprised that people don't see the First Amendment concerns. Be careful what you wish for. What if L.L. Bean where "taking the high road" by preventing their customers from being "accosted" with information such as L.L. Bean's use of sweatshop labor, discrimination against (fill in the blank), or sale of clothing that was dyed with alleged carcinogens? It is easy to applaud a method of speech when you also happen to dislike the (usual) message. Unfortunately, you may be creating a precedent so that method cannot be used to distribute any content.
I'm surprised that anyone could consider that ramming such unwanted trash down someones throat could even be covered by the first Amendment Especially as this usually works by hijacking the legitimate Ads that come up for a web page
To quote something i have said earlier, that i feel still applies:
The fact that theftware (I think this is a reasonable description of programs which steal my bandwidth and steal others advertising space) such as Gator *steal* (And i cant think of any other way of describing this) the advertising space, paid for by companies that are *supporting* some of the websites i view, strikes me as the most dodgy tactics imaginable, and i hope these companies go broke.
Other than the fact they call themselves Claria These days, this still applies.
Its due to the companies that are being sued that there is even a market for such patently dodgy tactics and i hope they get slapped down along with Whatever gator is called today.
NO ONE has a first amendment right to install Gator-crap on my computer by stealth.
NO ONE has the right to hijack my browsing and insert adverts.
NO ONE has the right to force me to read their advertising by stealth.
There are web sites that survive by the very slim advertising revenue produced by ads. Products like Gator (Or whatever) steal this advertising and point it at someone who has nothing to do with the site in question, which can eventually force the site to close down.
Most people who install this crap have no idea what they are doing, and would probably not choose to install this stuff for many of the same reasons most people choose not to install Rootkits.
Actually, thinking about this a bit more, a see your point. Thats what too much coffee does to you i'm afraid:-)
While i happen to agree with what Spamcop and others are doing and hope they win, it does set quite a dangerous precedent. If there is something you dont like, talk to the ISP and get it dealt with.
Its basically what the RIAA and a certain Religious group I am not going to mention.. have been doing for a while. ISP's are like most other people in just wanting a quiet life where they can go about their business in peace. I'm sure we have all heard the SPEWS horror stories.
Spam Cop isn't a private individual at all, but rather an organization who charges offers both free and paid services.
Good point, The same point applies to corparations though. Most large organisations also despise spam just as much as individuals, and have the same right to block it as anyone else.
It is an organized movement to censor spam
Again, good point, and i for one applaud the efforts of SpamCop, Spamhaus and others to rid the internet of spam. Unfortunately it seems non-technical internet users seem to think that because spamming is a legal activity in the US, that any attempts to block spamming are automatically against US free speech law, which is completely untrue, but as someone said last time this issue came up on Slashdot:
"Whether or not you have the right to send spam over the internet, You dont have the right to force me to read them."
Again, it comes down to my original point.
No other marketing medium forces the recipient to pay for the privilage of reading your emails. At least on cable, you can go and make a coffee when the adverts come on.
This would only be a relevent comparison if i sent my furntiture to everyone in the yellow pages, and then forced people to pay for delivery.
It is also different in that the furnature would be vaiguely useful to me (Probably less useful if I personally made it:-). I have never recieved a spam email that was useful to me.
The correct way to deal with me as a furnature manafacturer would be to either sue me, or complain to the approprate trade body. In either case, the customer has the ability to refuse delivery and refuse to pay. By the time i see my scum emails, I have already wasted my time and effort downloading and reading them.
This also comparison fails in that Furnature manafacture requires quite substantial resources which would drive me bust very quickly even without the lawsuits.
Besides, i dont see anything in the article saying that the Mass scum mailer involved was accused by SpamCop of operating illegally as such, just in an annoying way to the internet at large.
Whether or not Spamming is legal is not actually the point. Any private individual has the right to hold opinions on the activities of another person or company.
The scummers, erm, spammers, are using the argument that blocking these emails is costing them business.
I would use the counter argument, that people (And this includes ISP's) choose *not* to recieve these emails because they are costing them time and money, and the spammers are not recompensing them.
You may have the right to show me advertising, but you dont have the right to make me pay for you to do it. One of the reasons i dumped my old Dial up account is the minute or so wait while i downloaded scum.. erm.. spam... erm... marketing emails during which time the clock was ticking, but i coudnt use my internet connection.
There are still quite a number of places in the world where people still pay for internet by the minute. (Not me any more fortunately)
So, if any of your spammers are out there reading this message, Feel free to try to sue me for accusing you of the following:
you are BOTTOM SUCKING LEECHES who survive by MAKING EVERYONES INTERNET CONNECTIONS THAT MORE UNPLEASANT TO USE. I not only hoping you loose the case against SPAMCOP, AOS, MICROSOFT et al, i hope they NAIL YOUR SCUMMY LITTLE COMPANIES TO THE WALL, and prove to everyone just what MORONIC IDIOTS you are in practicing this BARELY LEGAL "marketing" activity that would be BANNED IN VIRTUALLY ANY OTHER MEDIA.
Actually, thats a damn good idea. If you wont let certain people upgrade, then stopping them flooding everyone else with random traffic is the way to go.
Then again, avoiding having to use software illegally is one of the reasons i upgraded to FreeBSD and Linux anyway.
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In some ways your right. That is unfortunately the downside of the Capitalist society in that the more minor laws tend to be enforced by the people who have an interest in seeing them enforced. This is particulary prevelent in things like Patent law in which unless you are a large company, you are screwed if some accuses you of breaking a patent, even if its a really obvious one.
This shouldnt however stop the major laws being enforced on an even handed basis.
What the movie companies are doing here is little different from the people who pay to have video cameras installed in their home to try to catch burglers. (Dont forget, technically just copying the film is a crime, so even if the boy involved hadnt distributed it (And only a real moron could believe that he wasnt going to) he had comitted a crime)
Now whether you believe that it is right or wrong, the fact is he is still committed a crime. I think its good that the Movie companies are doing much of the legwork for the cops.
As the movie companies are paying for enforcing the law in this case yes, thats fine.
As you obviously care about this so much, why dont you present the cops with a box of Night vision goggles. I'm sure they would be very greatful.
The cops are underfunded. They always are. Yes, the cops should be able to buy things like this, but in real life if they wanted things like that they would have to get private individuals to pay for it because there isnt the budget.
BTW, here is an update on the Law. Murder is *not* ok and the cops try to find murderers to the best of their ability and resources. It just happens to be easier to catch someone with a camcorder in a movie theitre, because you have a good idea on where to start looking for them.
Grow up. This boy was a criminal. He is too young to go to jail in the US, more's the pity. He was just unlucky enough to get caught.
Out of interest, exactly how would night vision goggles help the police to find murderers? indeed The only use for night vision goggles i can think of is while chasing someone down a very dark alley of some kind, during which, For them to be useful, the perp involved would also be blind without them.
Unfortunately yes, these things to tend to follow the people with the money
Of course there is always IP over carrier pigeon, Dont know if that bitrate would count as broadband though.
There is also of course the best solution of the lot if you can manage it, "Ip over a b**dy great pile of CDs in the back of a Pickup" which pretty much has the monopoly on very high bandwith transmittion.
Crappy ping time tho.
Sine wave is what i meant. Sorry.
*embarest grin*
UPSs are great for keeping random noise out of your own mains circuits, but for low power BB transmittion over mains to work, you need it the noise kept out of the entire transmission medium right back to the substation (Or further if you are trying to transmit over the pylons), and as nice as that would be, its not really feasable, especially in industrial areas.
Although that will stop noise comming into your house, for this to work, you would need to stop noice getting into the entire distribution network which means *everyone* would need to use one. No exceptions.
:-)
There is also the small matter that this can be expected to filter out the broadband signal as well (As its not likely to be a 60hz Square wave). which sort of defeats the object
Most AC appliances do not really care about the state of the power signal. Even things like Computer equipment can take quite a bit of punishment and are only really affected by large power spikes such as a lightening strike because they push the relative voltage up by quite a lot, even if only for an instant. Modern switched mode power supplies are particular affected by this sort of thing because the components they use tend to be only barely rated for the input they take.
That may be, but this trial was to do with piggybacked broadband signals as indeed was the attempt i was referencing.
I doubt that the optical fibre inside the cable method will get very far quickly because of the expense of the cable involved and the fact that it would involve quite a large re-stringing of rather a lot of the power distribution network.
Dunno what the lifespan of these wires is usually though. If it happens reasonable regularly (Ie 25 years or so) i suppose it could be justified.
I *do* know that the lifespan of Optical fibres is supposed to be about 25 years under normal circumstances, and that doesnt account for the strain of the constant contraction and relaxation of the actual conductor it would be with, which would put more strain on the fibre.
If the lifespan of the conductors is significantly more than the expected lifespan of the fibre, i think there would be problems.
I did however remember reading about someone proposing wrapping optical fibres *around* the conductors with a machine that travels along the cables after they have been hung. That could be done with cables already in use.
It is however a significant expense, and may not actually be cheaper than running the cables along the ground. The reason the broadband-over-power lines method was first suggested was as an easy way to utilise existing infrastructure and therefore not have to go to the expense of building the physical transport part of the network.
Yes, you can get them from Tandy or Radio shack. I have also seen Baby monitors you can plug in at a socket, but they only go a hundred or so feet at the most.
The problem is that Power lines tend to be very noisy which means you have to put more power in to make your signal discernable at a distance, or your signal will be swamped by the noise.
In a perfect world you could add an extra High frequency signal to the power signal which could easilly be filtered out, but in the real world this is complicated by noise from Electric motors, high frequency Electronics such as computers and mobile phones and the environment in general such as Storms. You also have to either up the signal in combination with the distance or add more expensive repeaters at decreasing intervals. The stronger the signal, the more leakage on RF frequencies.
They already tried. They already failed for much the same reasons, except i believe it was also interfering with LW and AM radio signals.
You dont mess with the BBC's signal in the UK. The phase "Ton of bricks" does not give justice to what will happen
This is exactly the same reason that a Broadband over power lines experiment was given up by one of the UKs power providers (The predecessor to Scottish power I think).
I wonder why someone thaught it would be different in the US, even with its more stringent laws about RF interference.
Do these people not do basic searches on prior work?
The term "Bug" had been in use in electronic circles far before then.
This was the first recorded actual bug as related to digital computing equipment, but there wasnt that much Digital computing equipment around before then.
From a purely impartial point of view, I certainly hope they dont let the use of underlying systems influence their decisions.
The judicirary is supposed to be impartial. I think for the most part it is. I would like it to stay like that no matter whatever happens.
Well when the youth of today finally signs on for Naval service, they wont be able to hear loud noises anyway after heving their ears pre-trained using Walkmans or MP3 players on full blast down their lug holes.
(Assume at this point i am waving about a walking stick)
Perhaps the Navy should consider supplying sailors with ear protectors with built in iPods filled with Martial music.
ooh oooh here we go again. Perhaps you forgot to consider Delphi/Kylix/C++ builder, Its IDE is far better than anything MS has come up with so far IHMO. Admittedly the best versions are not free, but *NO* versions of Visual studio is free. In my experiance, people who havent tried Delphi/Kylix/C++ builder are usually the ones berating it. MS has killed Visual J++, so the borland and sun tools win there by default, Which leaves Visual basic. Now I have to admit that there are no VB language tools are on Linux, But i actually consider that a good thing.
I had this problem as well when i had a internal ADSL modem in my old windows XP box.
The solution i came up with is to route everything through a Linux box. I used the internet connection on my Linux box and set a connection up with network card and a cross over cable, effectively using the Linux box as a NAT box.
These days, i have a dedicated ADSL NAT (Binatone ADSL 2000) box which doesnt let though a great deal by default, so its relatively safe unless a machine at the wrong side of the network is infected. Graham
Same here in the UK with some speed cameras. Thats why you cant get wierd font numberplates any more, cos they are not very clear (And difficult to OCR)
Actually, i suspect it may be more along the lines of they realise where the current SCO case is going, and are trying to appeal to Open source developers again.
They dont seem to have had a very good press recently on a variety of points.
Its unlikey to happen soon, and even in the very unlikely worst case of a SCO victory, they can just say "Well we cant anymore" and they have at least the cudos for trying so they really cant loose.
I have to say even with the recent announcements on Java and such like, i still wouldnt mind a nice multi-way Solaris box on my desktop instead of my Dell, no matter what they say.
I vaiguely remember that the Amiga OS 3 had an application called Multiview which allowed extensible embedded viewing of almost everything with the correct plugins (Called datatypes if I remember correctly). I dunno if this is the same thing though, but i think it predates the Web completely (Although only by a year or two). Hmm, have to dig out my old Amiga and check.
This is most definately *NOT* funny, and only someone from a country that still supports the Death penalty for anything could find this funny.
I hate spam (And Theftware erm.. scamware... erm scumware.. erm.. gator too) with a passion, Threatening actual physical harm to spammers as opposed to 5-10 in the clink is just not on.
I dont know what Chinas record on this sort of things is (From a quick googling it seems pretty bad), but I doubt they wouldnt execute such people, probably just fine them (Its not after all political or serious crime related).
Its a shocking indightment of modern society that people are willing to joke about such things in trivial manner.
Hell, i'm, starting to sound like my grandad. Time to stop now.
I'm surprised that anyone could consider that ramming such unwanted trash down someones throat could even be covered by the first Amendment Especially as this usually works by hijacking the legitimate Ads that come up for a web page
To quote something i have said earlier, that i feel still applies:
The fact that theftware (I think this is a reasonable description of programs which steal my bandwidth and steal others advertising space) such as Gator *steal* (And i cant think of any other way of describing this) the advertising space, paid for by companies that are *supporting* some of the websites i view, strikes me as the most dodgy tactics imaginable, and i hope these companies go broke.
Other than the fact they call themselves Claria These days, this still applies.
Its due to the companies that are being sued that there is even a market for such patently dodgy tactics and i hope they get slapped down along with Whatever gator is called today.
NO ONE has a first amendment right to install Gator-crap on my computer by stealth.
NO ONE has the right to hijack my browsing and insert adverts.
NO ONE has the right to force me to read their advertising by stealth.
There are web sites that survive by the very slim advertising revenue produced by ads. Products like Gator (Or whatever) steal this advertising and point it at someone who has nothing to do with the site in question, which can eventually force the site to close down.
Most people who install this crap have no idea what they are doing, and would probably not choose to install this stuff for many of the same reasons most people choose not to install Rootkits.
Actually, thinking about this a bit more, a see your point. Thats what too much coffee does to you i'm afraid :-)
While i happen to agree with what Spamcop and others are doing and hope they win, it does set quite a dangerous precedent. If there is something you dont like, talk to the ISP and get it dealt with.
Its basically what the RIAA and a certain Religious group I am not going to mention.. have been doing for a while.
ISP's are like most other people in just wanting a quiet life where they can go about their business in peace. I'm sure we have all heard the SPEWS horror stories.
Spam Cop isn't a private individual at all, but rather an organization who charges offers both free and paid services.
Good point, The same point applies to corparations though. Most large organisations also despise spam just as much as individuals, and have the same right to block it as anyone else.
It is an organized movement to censor spam
Again, good point, and i for one applaud the efforts of SpamCop, Spamhaus and others to rid the internet of spam. Unfortunately it seems non-technical internet users seem to think that because spamming is a legal activity in the US, that any attempts to block spamming are automatically against US free speech law, which is completely untrue, but as someone said last time this issue came up on Slashdot:
"Whether or not you have the right to send spam over the internet, You dont have the right to force me to read them."
Again, it comes down to my original point. No other marketing medium forces the recipient to pay for the privilage of reading your emails. At least on cable, you can go and make a coffee when the adverts come on.
This would only be a relevent comparison if i sent my furntiture to everyone in the yellow pages, and then forced people to pay for delivery.
:-). I have never recieved a spam email that was useful to me.
It is also different in that the furnature would be vaiguely useful to me (Probably less useful if I personally made it
The correct way to deal with me as a furnature manafacturer would be to either sue me, or complain to the approprate trade body. In either case, the customer has the ability to refuse delivery and refuse to pay. By the time i see my scum emails, I have already wasted my time and effort downloading and reading them.
This also comparison fails in that Furnature manafacture requires quite substantial resources which would drive me bust very quickly even without the lawsuits.
Besides, i dont see anything in the article saying that the Mass scum mailer involved was accused by SpamCop of operating illegally as such, just in an annoying way to the internet at large.
Whether or not Spamming is legal is not actually the point. Any private individual has the right to hold opinions on the activities of another person or company.
:-)
The scummers, erm, spammers, are using the argument that blocking these emails is costing them business.
I would use the counter argument, that people (And this includes ISP's) choose *not* to recieve these emails because they are costing them time and money, and the spammers are not recompensing them.
You may have the right to show me advertising, but you dont have the right to make me pay for you to do it. One of the reasons i dumped my old Dial up account is the minute or so wait while i downloaded scum.. erm.. spam... erm... marketing emails during which time the clock was ticking, but i coudnt use my internet connection.
There are still quite a number of places in the world where people still pay for internet by the minute. (Not me any more fortunately)
So, if any of your spammers are out there reading this message, Feel free to try to sue me for accusing you of the following: you are BOTTOM SUCKING LEECHES who survive by MAKING EVERYONES INTERNET CONNECTIONS THAT MORE UNPLEASANT TO USE. I not only hoping you loose the case against SPAMCOP, AOS, MICROSOFT et al, i hope they NAIL YOUR SCUMMY LITTLE COMPANIES TO THE WALL, and prove to everyone just what MORONIC IDIOTS you are in practicing this BARELY LEGAL "marketing" activity that would be BANNED IN VIRTUALLY ANY OTHER MEDIA.
Hmm, theraputic, must do that more often
Actually, thats a damn good idea. If you wont let certain people upgrade, then stopping them flooding everyone else with random traffic is the way to go. Then again, avoiding having to use software illegally is one of the reasons i upgraded to FreeBSD and Linux anyway.
Yes, its for Microsofts top secret upcomming release of IP over carrier pigeon interface for the military versions of Windows 2003.