After I installed the patch (without restarting Mozilla), all four example links were available to click on. Clicking on the fourth link, marked "Clicking this could crash your system!!!" did cause Mozilla to go crazy. It kept opening new windows stupidly fast until it crashed.
After it died, I restarted it and went back to the page - now three of the links are completely disabled (I can't even highlight them), and the link that does work (the one with the example iframe exploit) has no malicious effect - the iframe no longer shows the Windows tip but is empty instead.
So my version of Moz clearly wasn't fixed until it had been restarted.
You should hope the admin for that service doesn't have any idea what grep is.
try these:
DhAve is ah Coont.
I've heard that a lot of SMS services automatically convert the word cunt into aunt... although I don't know how widespread that is as I don't think I've ever sent anyone that particular four-letter delight.
So, if I understand correctly, we (European minus UK) are considered as notorious pirates that rip everything passing by? Nice...
In EMI/Capitol's view, yes. In the eyes of other labels we in the UK are just as likely as the rest of Europe to have a hook, parrot and a penchant for 'stealing' sea shanties from other mariners...
I went to buy the latest Faithless album the other week, saw the label that indicated it would try to ***k up my computer and put it straight back down.
I don't know about colorful, I seem to remember a lot of grey and brown...
Funny thing is, I remember Doom as being quite colourful, but hated the shareware version of Quake because it was all grey and brown and colourless by comparison...
Of course, Doom 3 promises to be colourful in other ways.
The BPI have been saying for some time that it was pointless to threaten P2P music-swappers with lawsuits without first offering them an online alternative.
So now there are some half-decent services being launched in the UK, watch this space...
Surely its low radar profile is useless once they switch their own radar on? itd light up like a christmas tree and every detector in theatre would lock onto it.
Indeed. In general your own radar emissions can be detected upto twice as far away as you can detect the returns.
However, you don't have your radar on all the time (in some cases at all) to be able to detect an enemy and fire at them.
Imagine if both sides have airborne radar, sonar buoys and/or shore-based radar stations and their information is linked to the fleet. Perhaps both sides have scout ships that only fire off their active radar for short bursts at occasional intervals (and then sprint away to avoid getting clobbered) and the data from the returns is passed to every vessel in the fleet. In these cases it helps to be as stealthy as possible.
Similarly, if someone fires a missile at you, it helps if the missile's radar has trouble detecting you if/when you turn your own radar off.
I think the lines about imagining there's no Heaven, nations or possessions were probably seen as being unpatriotic/un-American or some such nonsense.
U2
Sunday Bloody Sunday is about the Bloody Sunday massacre in Northern Ireland. It's no surprise it gets banned everytime someone gets killed.
The Beatles
I'm stumped.
Reminds me of the time Radio1 banned songs like Something In The Air Tonight and Walk Like An Egyptian from being played during the (first) Gulf War so as not to offend our Arab allies...
It amazes me that so many people just blindly accept these theories (and they are only theories) about meteors wiping most of the life out on earth long ago.
They'll remain 'only theories' until someone invents a time machine and goes back to check. Even if a big rock slammed into the Earth tomorrow and wiped us all out that would be sufficient to show the other mass extinctions could have had the same cause, but not sufficient enough to prove it was the cause. What would you actually accept as direct evidence?
On the other hand, from reading the BBC's article on the subject (linked to in another post, repeated here for ease) it looks like the story's been somewhat over-hyped anyway. I find this bit most worrying:
Six cores drilled from the Bedout area returned dates much younger than the extinction event. But one core returned a date of about 250.1 million years old - on the button for the mass extinction recorded in fossil beds around the world.
You'd think they'd try and get at least one more sample with the same age before getting excited...
And text messages aren't completely silent. I still hear DTMF when I hit a key
<mood=angry>Then turn off the bloomin' keytones. Most people I know have them turned off because they're just too annoying for everyone concerned.
Of course, you can still hear the clicking of the buttons if you listen carefully. Perhaps such infidels who attempt to communicate with other humans in such a minimalistic style should have their fingers chopped off?</mood>
I think the "from the ass-hole-arms-race-escalates dept." slashdot description describes this entire story quite well. Reacting to the small number of complete pillocks, who would be complete pillocks whether or not they're shouting into a mobile phone at a funeral or not, by punishing everyone is just silly.
That's roughly 6,060 CDs per month, or over 72 thousand CDs per year.
Now go to them and tell them that this is not at all a concern and that they should just shut up.
From the article:
Oberholzer-Gee and his colleague, University of North Carolina's Koleman Strumpf, also said that their "most pessimistic" statistical model showed that illegal file sharing would have accounted for only 2 million fewer compact discs sales in 2002, whereas CD sales declined by 139 million units between 2000 and 2002.
guardian.co.uk is the web site of "The Guardian", a British newspaper.
...which used to be named 'The Manchester Guardian' (which you probably already knew, I just couldn't resist pointing it out). Of course, its offices are in London now, which spoils the original joke somewhat.
It ought to get a little cheaper now that you they don't have to pay David Beckham's paycheck anymore.
The current Vodafone ads show David Beckham taking mobile-phone-pictures of blue skies in Madrid and sending them back to the Neville Brothers, who are shown hiding from the rain in a tent in Manchester. Perhaps that'll be the last of them but I doubt it...
Wandering off topic, but the parent is slightly misleading. It wasn't so much taxes as tariffs, rent and general poverty.
The Corn Laws, which were tariffs on imports on wheat and grain, were incredibly unpopular throughout Britain as they raised bread prices. The very poor Irish tenant farmers (who paid their rent by working on farms for the landowners) couldn't afford to buy much food over that which they grew themselves on their small plots of land. Meanwhile, the owners of the farms (most of whom were English/Scottish/Welsh colonists or their descendents) sold their produce to mainland Britain (as other posters have said).
So you had the silly situation of an area exporting food whilst its people starved. The British government repealed the Corn Laws the year after the famine started, but this was not enough for the starving families who still couldn't afford to buy bread, unless they were prepared to give up their tenancies and join a workhouse.
The government was a) clueless at first as to how wide-reaching the famine was and b) convinced that letting 'the market decide' would alleviate the problems. As supposition a was completely wrong, b was never going to work. Whatever your personal feelings about free-trade v government intervention, the scale of the famine meant that government intervention was required in this case. The tenant farmers simply could not afford to buy enough food, as it was still too expensive.
<trite slashdot conclusion>So monoculture plus governmental stupidity can result in very bad things.</trite slashdot conclusion>
Note. Whether the system of rich landowners and penniless farmers would have existed at the time without English/British colonisation is something I don't know enough about to comment on. This is a disclaimer to avoid a flame-war!
If however all the animals on the planet were suddenly gone, including insects, I think we'd probably last a few years or less. Point is, we need them, they *don't* need us.
Isn't this simply because we have no natural predator? No animal bases its life on hunting, killing and eating humans (except the Predator:). Being at the top of the food chain means we wouldn't be missed if we vanished. Some domesticated species of animals and plants would probably struggle to survive, but everything else would continue. This isn't to do with social effects, but to our expansion into wildly different areas of the globe and, naturally, to our killing off of any potential predator.
This irritated me so much I looked it up. From HailShield.com:
The HAIL SHIELD generator, provides a shock wave that is projected toward the hail baring cloud with a 4000 lb. thrust. The waves are successive, a shot is fired every 5 1/4 seconds, and creates a new 'shock wave' each time. These waves grow in diameter, and spread out to cover one kilometer in diameter immediately above the generator. As the generator heats up, it allows the shock wave, 'torre', to pick up positive ions, and carry them up into the cloud. These positive ions help destabilize the hail formation. The cloud becomes homogenized, and can no longer produce hail while in the shock zone. The shock wave can be seen in the early morning, or in late afternoon. It looks like a heat mirage, that we see on hot surfaces. The shock wave also has a very definite sound. After a cannon shot, or bang, you will hear a very high-pitched whistling type sound, leaving the mouth of the generator. This is the shock wave. The shock wave has been detected as high as 50,000 feet.
and
The generator works exactly like a shot gun. When it is fired, it gives a two ton thrust at the area of most resistance, the butt. The two tons of thrust can not pass through the butt, so the thrust reverses, and goes out through the barrel. This is the 'BOOM' that we hear. When the explosive force goes upward, it creates a vacuum, that opens the two check valves that are built into the butt. These check valves open and draw air into the generator. This air follows the explosive thrust at super sonic speeds. When directed by the barrel, this air becomes the 'Shock Wave', that you can see and hear a few seconds after the initial 'BOOM'. This is repeated every five and quarter seconds.
So there we have it. They do move cations into the atmosphere, but they don't shoot them out of the cannon.
Our newspapers love to whip up a storm about anything and everything. EU laws that hardly affect us are not news. EU laws that may inconvenience a few people are presented as 'a threat to our way of life' (e.g. selling fruit and veg in kilos rather than pounds and ounces). The public perception is that the EU exists to make France and Germany rich and powerful to the detriment of others. Whilst there are occasions when this cynicism appears to be well-founded, it's not the universal truth that some papers like to present it as.
You're right that we don't like being told what to do by Johnny Foreigner! The press whips this up, but the tendency would exist without them, I think.
<AttemptToStayOnTopic effort='minimal'>We've seen with the software patents issue that the EU is prepared to make their IP laws closer to those of America. We've also seen a popular* negative response. After all, no European wants to be told what to do by Johnny American, do they?</AttemptToStayOnTopic>
Our railways and healthcare (and education) have been underfunded for years. The problem seems to be that every prospective government promises lower taxes and better services by 'cutting bureaucracy', then tries to achieve this adding another layer of bureaucracy (whose role is to cut bureaucracy).
* popular as in generally coming from the people, not that every man and his dog was up in arms.
In free countries, the government may not control the press, but it doesn't leave it completely to its own devices. Admittedly, in the UK the press oversees itself through the Press Complaints Commission, but there are occasional calls for the government to take over the role (for example, when the News Of The World effectively incited a rash of violence against convicted paedophiles. Plus anyone who looked like one or had a similar name. Or lived next door. Or was a paediatrician...).
Personally I don't think the profit incentive is enough for a 'public utility' to provide good service. Good companies provide the public what they want; bad companies convince the public they want what is being served. I like quoting The Jam at this point - "The public wants what the public gets". It's far more complicated than that, of course:)
I don't want a committee of government officials to oafishly censor the web - I think that's something we can all agree on. Certainly, the "think of the children" aspect of the article did bother me. My hope is that some UN commission would bash out some framework that would leave room for individual countries to implement 'safeguards' as and when required. I know that's pretty similar to what we have today, except that the safeguards (against spam, say) aren't very effective.
Heck, I think I'm arguing myself into a position of favouring the status quo! Fear of governmental incompetence is a mighty thing.
Hmmmm. Hang on - lightning occurs when there is a great potential difference between the cloud and the earth, right? So as the cloud is getting ready to shoot negatively-charged particles downwards could you shoot positively-charged ions upwards?
To answer my own question, I think there'd be a great risk of triggering a lightning strike by doing this, so you're probably right:)
Water is a much better medium than air for propagating sound. That's why the whales get driven mad by certain sonar systems. The effects of these hail-preventers would be localised.
I'd be interested to know what the effects on local birds are, although I'd imagine they don't hang around underneath a cloud that's about to lash down golf-ball sized hail...
Slashdot Mirror
Try this post
Personally I think we should do everything in our power to smother this attempt to start a new Slashdot meme at birth.
Try this page: test page
After I installed the patch (without restarting Mozilla), all four example links were available to click on. Clicking on the fourth link, marked "Clicking this could crash your system!!!" did cause Mozilla to go crazy. It kept opening new windows stupidly fast until it crashed.
After it died, I restarted it and went back to the page - now three of the links are completely disabled (I can't even highlight them), and the link that does work (the one with the example iframe exploit) has no malicious effect - the iframe no longer shows the Windows tip but is empty instead.
So my version of Moz clearly wasn't fixed until it had been restarted.
AC wrote:
I've heard that a lot of SMS services automatically convert the word cunt into aunt... although I don't know how widespread that is as I don't think I've ever sent anyone that particular four-letter delight.
Dave is an aunt doesn't quite have the same ring
In EMI/Capitol's view, yes. In the eyes of other labels we in the UK are just as likely as the rest of Europe to have a hook, parrot and a penchant for 'stealing' sea shanties from other mariners...
I went to buy the latest Faithless album the other week, saw the label that indicated it would try to ***k up my computer and put it straight back down.
Funny thing is, I remember Doom as being quite colourful, but hated the shareware version of Quake because it was all grey and brown and colourless by comparison...
Of course, Doom 3 promises to be colourful in other ways.
The BPI have been saying for some time that it was pointless to threaten P2P music-swappers with lawsuits without first offering them an online alternative.
So now there are some half-decent services being launched in the UK, watch this space...
You ambush the enemy with just a pen?
The pen is mightier than the SAW!
Thank you, I'm here all week.
Indeed. In general your own radar emissions can be detected upto twice as far away as you can detect the returns.
However, you don't have your radar on all the time (in some cases at all) to be able to detect an enemy and fire at them.
Imagine if both sides have airborne radar, sonar buoys and/or shore-based radar stations and their information is linked to the fleet. Perhaps both sides have scout ships that only fire off their active radar for short bursts at occasional intervals (and then sprint away to avoid getting clobbered) and the data from the returns is passed to every vessel in the fleet. In these cases it helps to be as stealthy as possible.
Similarly, if someone fires a missile at you, it helps if the missile's radar has trouble detecting you if/when you turn your own radar off.
John Lennon
I think the lines about imagining there's no Heaven, nations or possessions were probably seen as being unpatriotic/un-American or some such nonsense.
U2
Sunday Bloody Sunday is about the Bloody Sunday massacre in Northern Ireland. It's no surprise it gets banned everytime someone gets killed.
The Beatles
I'm stumped.
Reminds me of the time Radio1 banned songs like Something In The Air Tonight and Walk Like An Egyptian from being played during the (first) Gulf War so as not to offend our Arab allies...
They'll remain 'only theories' until someone invents a time machine and goes back to check. Even if a big rock slammed into the Earth tomorrow and wiped us all out that would be sufficient to show the other mass extinctions could have had the same cause, but not sufficient enough to prove it was the cause. What would you actually accept as direct evidence?
On the other hand, from reading the BBC's article on the subject (linked to in another post, repeated here for ease) it looks like the story's been somewhat over-hyped anyway. I find this bit most worrying:
You'd think they'd try and get at least one more sample with the same age before getting excited...
Radio waves beamed into space?
Just think, in a thousand years the last episode of Single Female Lawyer will reach Omicron Persei 8 and it'll be percectly intact... oh.
At least it's better than hoping the spammers will simply decide to give up.
Make love not Spam!
<mood=angry>Then turn off the bloomin' keytones. Most people I know have them turned off because they're just too annoying for everyone concerned.
Of course, you can still hear the clicking of the buttons if you listen carefully. Perhaps such infidels who attempt to communicate with other humans in such a minimalistic style should have their fingers chopped off?</mood>
I think the "from the ass-hole-arms-race-escalates dept." slashdot description describes this entire story quite well. Reacting to the small number of complete pillocks, who would be complete pillocks whether or not they're shouting into a mobile phone at a funeral or not, by punishing everyone is just silly.
From the article:
Oberholzer-Gee and his colleague, University of North Carolina's Koleman Strumpf, also said that their "most pessimistic" statistical model showed that illegal file sharing would have accounted for only 2 million fewer compact discs sales in 2002, whereas CD sales declined by 139 million units between 2000 and 2002.
...which used to be named 'The Manchester Guardian' (which you probably already knew, I just couldn't resist pointing it out). Of course, its offices are in London now, which spoils the original joke somewhat.
I think you'll find that's Edinburgh, Scotland.
From The BBC
The current Vodafone ads show David Beckham taking mobile-phone-pictures of blue skies in Madrid and sending them back to the Neville Brothers, who are shown hiding from the rain in a tent in Manchester. Perhaps that'll be the last of them but I doubt it...
Well Jeremy Clarkson has an old RAF Lightning in his garden...
Wandering off topic, but the parent is slightly misleading. It wasn't so much taxes as tariffs, rent and general poverty.
The Corn Laws, which were tariffs on imports on wheat and grain, were incredibly unpopular throughout Britain as they raised bread prices. The very poor Irish tenant farmers (who paid their rent by working on farms for the landowners) couldn't afford to buy much food over that which they grew themselves on their small plots of land. Meanwhile, the owners of the farms (most of whom were English/Scottish/Welsh colonists or their descendents) sold their produce to mainland Britain (as other posters have said).
So you had the silly situation of an area exporting food whilst its people starved. The British government repealed the Corn Laws the year after the famine started, but this was not enough for the starving families who still couldn't afford to buy bread, unless they were prepared to give up their tenancies and join a workhouse.
The government was a) clueless at first as to how wide-reaching the famine was and b) convinced that letting 'the market decide' would alleviate the problems. As supposition a was completely wrong, b was never going to work. Whatever your personal feelings about free-trade v government intervention, the scale of the famine meant that government intervention was required in this case. The tenant farmers simply could not afford to buy enough food, as it was still too expensive.
<trite slashdot conclusion>So monoculture plus governmental stupidity can result in very bad things.</trite slashdot conclusion>
Note. Whether the system of rich landowners and penniless farmers would have existed at the time without English/British colonisation is something I don't know enough about to comment on. This is a disclaimer to avoid a flame-war!
Isn't this simply because we have no natural predator? No animal bases its life on hunting, killing and eating humans (except the Predator :). Being at the top of the food chain means we wouldn't be missed if we vanished. Some domesticated species of animals and plants would probably struggle to survive, but everything else would continue. This isn't to do with social effects, but to our expansion into wildly different areas of the globe and, naturally, to our killing off of any potential predator.
This irritated me so much I looked it up. From HailShield.com:
and
So there we have it. They do move cations into the atmosphere, but they don't shoot them out of the cannon.
Our newspapers love to whip up a storm about anything and everything. EU laws that hardly affect us are not news. EU laws that may inconvenience a few people are presented as 'a threat to our way of life' (e.g. selling fruit and veg in kilos rather than pounds and ounces). The public perception is that the EU exists to make France and Germany rich and powerful to the detriment of others. Whilst there are occasions when this cynicism appears to be well-founded, it's not the universal truth that some papers like to present it as.
You're right that we don't like being told what to do by Johnny Foreigner! The press whips this up, but the tendency would exist without them, I think.
<AttemptToStayOnTopic effort='minimal'>We've seen with the software patents issue that the EU is prepared to make their IP laws closer to those of America. We've also seen a popular* negative response. After all, no European wants to be told what to do by Johnny American, do they?</AttemptToStayOnTopic>
Our railways and healthcare (and education) have been underfunded for years. The problem seems to be that every prospective government promises lower taxes and better services by 'cutting bureaucracy', then tries to achieve this adding another layer of bureaucracy (whose role is to cut bureaucracy).
* popular as in generally coming from the people, not that every man and his dog was up in arms.
In free countries, the government may not control the press, but it doesn't leave it completely to its own devices. Admittedly, in the UK the press oversees itself through the Press Complaints Commission, but there are occasional calls for the government to take over the role (for example, when the News Of The World effectively incited a rash of violence against convicted paedophiles. Plus anyone who looked like one or had a similar name. Or lived next door. Or was a paediatrician...).
Personally I don't think the profit incentive is enough for a 'public utility' to provide good service. Good companies provide the public what they want; bad companies convince the public they want what is being served. I like quoting The Jam at this point - "The public wants what the public gets". It's far more complicated than that, of course :)
I don't want a committee of government officials to oafishly censor the web - I think that's something we can all agree on. Certainly, the "think of the children" aspect of the article did bother me. My hope is that some UN commission would bash out some framework that would leave room for individual countries to implement 'safeguards' as and when required. I know that's pretty similar to what we have today, except that the safeguards (against spam, say) aren't very effective.
Heck, I think I'm arguing myself into a position of favouring the status quo! Fear of governmental incompetence is a mighty thing.
Hmmmm. Hang on - lightning occurs when there is a great potential difference between the cloud and the earth, right? So as the cloud is getting ready to shoot negatively-charged particles downwards could you shoot positively-charged ions upwards?
To answer my own question, I think there'd be a great risk of triggering a lightning strike by doing this, so you're probably right :)
Water is a much better medium than air for propagating sound. That's why the whales get driven mad by certain sonar systems. The effects of these hail-preventers would be localised.
I'd be interested to know what the effects on local birds are, although I'd imagine they don't hang around underneath a cloud that's about to lash down golf-ball sized hail...