Incorrect. Ponder the following line from a song by Something for Kate which is pondering a well known statement; "You're not the first to think that everything has been thought before..." I would suggest that practicially every one who isn't a fundamentalise in some regard probably grapples with this concept. The popular spin on The Meaning Of Life(tm) tends to drag the population away from the real more depressing concept that we know how life works but we don't know what to do with life and that is confusing.
And that is a failure of the parents to give up controll of their children to the school while they are on school grounds. I had the whole living hell primary school and high school deal as a result of bullies and I watched time and time again (when I was old enough to understand the politics) as teachers struggled to deal with the situation as their hands were so firmly tied. Every arguement I see comes back to the parents, and that goes further onto the social climate, which stops at the vocal population of which the clear majority is parents - thus I think it is where the buck should stop.
Plus this allows IT to give users some breathing room when they are using the computer (daily reading of dilbert for example) which leads to a happy interaction between staff and IT.
You must admit though that while it is a strange name that put it back in the running this generation. I hate to be a consumer though I'd counted myself out of this generation cause I couldn't afford a ps3, I wasn't interested in the xbox2, and well the revolution seemed bland. Nintendo turned that around with a simple name change and an effective marketing push...They made it stand out enough that every day pc gamers like myself said 'peh okay I'll have a look' and they backed it up with interesting new features like the new controller. So much so that I went from not wanting a console to having the money ready to buy a Wii on release day with a game or two and an extra controller - which I think is a damn good effort on their part.
Just a note on the controller though, that is a make or break deal for me, if I walk into eb on release day and don't like it I'll be walking out with my cash - I dearly hope this wont be the case.
I watched a documentary awhile back late at night on Mount Rushmore and iirc (which I don't, but the info is about right) it will take many thousands of years for Mount Rushmore to be complete (it is designed to be etched away over time to complete itself) and the result should be understandable (as heads) for a good long period...the number in my head is 300,000 years though of course check up on all of these for yourself.:)
I guess you're not familiar with satire...or even long term memory? I am aware ID is not taught in Texas though Bush identifies with that state (and to the causal overseas observer appears to be from that state, I plead ignorance on that correction) and he has bible studies every Thursday in the White House. Hence I was linking the state of the Kansas education system in regards to science and the chances that that will change considering there is a fundamentalist Christian in office. If you didn't find it funny that is your concern though stooping to calling names is just a complete waste of storage resources.
...I guess the phrase "Burn, karma, burn!" is relevant to my above post?;)
Well it all depends...If the scientists are all from Kansas they will hardly believe all this nonsense like rocks from space (the heavens don't have rocks, duh!) and really you'd think any major 'rocks from the sky' that would have splashed down in the last seven thousand years would be in the document of histroy (aka The Bible) right? Plus of course with Bush in control of America and his Texan background of belief he'd probably set a requirement that any one setting foot on this Mars place that hes heard so much about would have to be from Kansas or Texas so they could put what they learnt through the excellent education systems provided by those states to good use!
I'll use the living end as an example of how I justify 'copyright infringement' to myself as they fit well. I know I'm stealing, I know I can't afford any where near the enoguh of music I enjoy listening too (as I like everything excluding opera and country) even if I could buy it online easily - note I'd go out of my way to support a drm free high quality mp3/ogg service if one existed - and I know I do my best to support my favourite groups. The living end is one of those bands...When I was young I grabbed their self titled and loved every track though unfortunately (like now) I had little money due to schooling (and now uni) so I downloaded the rest of their gear. Over time I've collected every one of their cds when I've seen them on special around the place and I've had the cash plus I've been to several concerts when they come by.
So really I do as much as I think I should to morally justify it to myself - they aren't losing sales because I buy what I'm able too - so in reality the thing I'm stealing is an unfair use of their content.
It is my opinion that if I continue to do this sort of thing that I am at least going some ways towards fixing the moral divide created by using their content unfairly. And it's nice to see the living end kind of respect that...Hopefully butterfingers are the same.:P
And the system fixes itself with only a few people losing out which in a community of several hundred thousand isn't to bad for every one living happily.
I know I've taken the brunt of a fanatic before in both being modded troll and flameful private messages yet I ignored him and lived happily knowing that metamoderation would see that my post wasn't inflamitory and rasied well researched and clear points and that the person who moderated me troll would lose a percentage of their chance to get mod points again. As far as I can see the system works, those who don't want to mod don't and those who troll get crushed.
I don't want to sound like I also missed the point so I'll say clearly that I'm in favour of automated testing. I just wanted to note that your assumption that closed code is often written by the same bunch of people. While this seems to be the case it often isn't as companys simply don't care about their coders and will turn them over almost monthly if they see need. Many of the closed source industry specific programs at my workplace have whole areas that they refuse to fix because they simply don't know how it works as the coder who did it is long gone. A great example I read yesterday in the world of EVE is that they wanted to use the billboards system for ads and other interesting ingame content but realised that they simply had no idea how to use it and in reality didn't want to try as breaking it would cause havoc - the coder who did it is long gone.
So I think that opensource is on par with the closed source world on this one with both about as likely to clean up differing code as each other...Then again with opensource at least you can pay a 3rd party firm to do it for you.
That is not a trap, it's a feature. Authors are rather odd people in that they fully accept people will steal their work...Possibly because books have been around for five hundred years now, compared to 90 with recorded media and movies, and they know the ropes. On these grounds the CC licences allow them to take the moral high ground of saying 'if you are going to steal my work can you please follow these simple guide lines' (note I am talking about works they are not intending to sell or that they intend for side allowances in sold works) and as the requests are very simple a large percentage of those stealing the works comply. Creative Commons basically worked out what Authors wanted and made licences to fit in with their wishes unlike this crazy situation where the FSF/RMS/community are all separate groups vying for control over what goes in. Of course the CC process left a bunch of documents that have some rather odd requirements but they get the job done the way it is wanted done by those creating the work. Maybe, and I say this knowing it may shoot my usage of opensource software in the foot, the GPL teams could learn some thing from this?
As some one who works with newbs every day I can say without a doubt that the Mozilla people are one hundred percent correct. Having the one download means people will use it; if you put two there they wont know which one to get and wont bother at all...even if you label effectively.
Yes but it holds no real sway with the internet populace. They have about as much respect from the general public as Bush does in Australia when he's waving the latest trade agreement that destorys our health system. Which is perfect for the Internet.
Basically as long as the authority is to busy in a power struggle to govern effectively (set rules and enforce them on the net) we can do what ever the hell we want. It is the number one reason the internet has been so successful.
He doesn't want to install RAID he wants a simple USB keyboard to work. I've noticed this with several USB keyboards recently with friends complaining though I've never had it myself with the hundreds of keyboards I've installed Linux on...I can only assume it is a specific dodgy chip being used or some thing just off about the keyboards in question and changing distro's doesn't really seem to fix it. In the cases I've seen of it I've recommended that the user just buy another USB keyboard which has fixed the problem every time - small investment to make and I'm sure it pays off in TOC pie charts some where.:P
I agree and I'd like to add the reason I ignore game reviews is because they are rarely honest. I have never seen a review of HL2 saying "I disliked this game" or even anything close...It's like the whole review area for games is being bought out by the companies releasing the games. I just don't trust them.
Wait...the non-free world? How the hell is the non-free world any better at all? We've had a major roll over in the last ten days of our mission critical control system that practically runs the place. I've filed over 40 critical bugs and god knows how many others around the place have filed without telling me. Now the pilot and dev teams (third level support) are working closely with us to resolve as many as they can as quickly as possible though that is taking awhile as they are moving more and more of their customers over to the new system. This is all well and good and we've only lost a small percentage of productivity and lost only a few sales, which can be expected in a major upgrade, though the real killer is that there are several bugs we have filed which I know I could fix in five minutes that they have out right told us will never be fixed... This is a situation where OSS would win out and hell we have one of the better closed source proprietors that I know of. So try living in the real world first before you diss free software.
Only the first thirty posts and there are disgusting posts from pissed off users... I hate to be the one to say it - though having to read through several sets of Debian issues and their comments on/. and seeing a lot of Gentoo users flaming I think I should - maybe Gentoo should get its own house in order before it attacks other distros?
Now for the constructive part of this post. Why is this even a problem? Seriously, sit down and talk through the issue, it's not that hard. They don't want to do what you want and you don't want them to do what they want...I've heard of this one before I think it's called life? Gentoo while a bit off some times is a damn good project and one of the shining stars for the Linux communities...and you keep the windows newb gamers off the rest of our backs so for that you get extra brownie points. So for the sake of every one else just talk it through instead of fighting...
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Having made several flights lately in light aircraft I've been rather bored and have happily sat watching the bars on my mobile phone...Now I didn't realise there was a full on tin foil hat issue here though my results are as follows:
Outbound from where I live on a Nokia 6230 I had signal for a decent phone call up to ~5,000 feet and could send SMS to around ~6,000 feet, soon after this I lost signal. Leaving on the way back to here I had phone signal for a call up to ~7,000 feet and lost phone and SMS at about the same time.
The Blackberry 7230 I had with me made it another 500-1000 feet over my Nokia in regards to signal though GPRS didn't fare so well. Luckily Brick doesn't require phone signal.:)
We tended to fly at around 12,000 feet most times and those observations from one trip seem about right for the rest plus I can confirm from having to drive several of the distances that there is full phone coverage a long the routes.
I was about to say this...Windows 98 users have very little trouble switching to Linux. Back when XP came out it was a sidegrade to Linux which a huge group took advantage of and now it is an upgrade which being free should really be pushed hard. Linux with the help of wine practically runs every 3.1/9x program in existence and supports every chunk of hardware sitting out there on boxes that old. It should be a case of dropping in a Ubuntu install cd and everything works...Or even better a wizard based low requirements distro that grabs all of their data from win9x and dumps it on an iPod or similar and then installs Linux with all of their documents moved across. Really the Linux community should pull together and push this chance for what it's worth.
I don't agree. While the zealot wars rage on those in the middle tend to keep the playing field rather level. I own a Mac Powerbook (as well as several Linux boxen) and I've personally noticed more and more people starting to buy Apple hardware, mostly because of how impressed they are with their iPods, so at least for Australia I'd question the statistics. Though in reality if some one came out blatantly showing huge increases I'd call bullshit as it clearly isn't happening...Just like Linux Apples market share is only slowly rising. They will both get there one day.;)
I blame kdawson...Please for the love of god learn formatting!
I realise you are new and it's probably hard though more effort is required! Don't post crap, and don't spam up the crap you do post with extra lines and pointless links and and and and and...Just be CmdrTaco or Zonk then there wont be a problem! It's getting annoying reading/. while you are editing it.:( (Watches karma playfully slide around in the mud from this comment.) Also welcome to our favourite IT news site.;)
A lot of the problems with diesel have been ironed out over the last while...Also many countrys sell diesel at the pump next to petrol and lpg(/gas). I know they do in Australia.
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Incorrect. Ponder the following line from a song by Something for Kate which is pondering a well known statement; "You're not the first to think that everything has been thought before..." I would suggest that practicially every one who isn't a fundamentalise in some regard probably grapples with this concept. The popular spin on The Meaning Of Life(tm) tends to drag the population away from the real more depressing concept that we know how life works but we don't know what to do with life and that is confusing.
And that is a failure of the parents to give up controll of their children to the school while they are on school grounds. I had the whole living hell primary school and high school deal as a result of bullies and I watched time and time again (when I was old enough to understand the politics) as teachers struggled to deal with the situation as their hands were so firmly tied. Every arguement I see comes back to the parents, and that goes further onto the social climate, which stops at the vocal population of which the clear majority is parents - thus I think it is where the buck should stop.
Plus this allows IT to give users some breathing room when they are using the computer (daily reading of dilbert for example) which leads to a happy interaction between staff and IT.
You must admit though that while it is a strange name that put it back in the running this generation. I hate to be a consumer though I'd counted myself out of this generation cause I couldn't afford a ps3, I wasn't interested in the xbox2, and well the revolution seemed bland. Nintendo turned that around with a simple name change and an effective marketing push...They made it stand out enough that every day pc gamers like myself said 'peh okay I'll have a look' and they backed it up with interesting new features like the new controller. So much so that I went from not wanting a console to having the money ready to buy a Wii on release day with a game or two and an extra controller - which I think is a damn good effort on their part.
Just a note on the controller though, that is a make or break deal for me, if I walk into eb on release day and don't like it I'll be walking out with my cash - I dearly hope this wont be the case.
I watched a documentary awhile back late at night on Mount Rushmore and iirc (which I don't, but the info is about right) it will take many thousands of years for Mount Rushmore to be complete (it is designed to be etched away over time to complete itself) and the result should be understandable (as heads) for a good long period...the number in my head is 300,000 years though of course check up on all of these for yourself. :)
I guess you're not familiar with satire...or even long term memory? I am aware ID is not taught in Texas though Bush identifies with that state (and to the causal overseas observer appears to be from that state, I plead ignorance on that correction) and he has bible studies every Thursday in the White House. Hence I was linking the state of the Kansas education system in regards to science and the chances that that will change considering there is a fundamentalist Christian in office. If you didn't find it funny that is your concern though stooping to calling names is just a complete waste of storage resources.
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...I guess the phrase "Burn, karma, burn!" is relevant to my above post?
Well it all depends...If the scientists are all from Kansas they will hardly believe all this nonsense like rocks from space (the heavens don't have rocks, duh!) and really you'd think any major 'rocks from the sky' that would have splashed down in the last seven thousand years would be in the document of histroy (aka The Bible) right? Plus of course with Bush in control of America and his Texan background of belief he'd probably set a requirement that any one setting foot on this Mars place that hes heard so much about would have to be from Kansas or Texas so they could put what they learnt through the excellent education systems provided by those states to good use!
I'll use the living end as an example of how I justify 'copyright infringement' to myself as they fit well. I know I'm stealing, I know I can't afford any where near the enoguh of music I enjoy listening too (as I like everything excluding opera and country) even if I could buy it online easily - note I'd go out of my way to support a drm free high quality mp3/ogg service if one existed - and I know I do my best to support my favourite groups. The living end is one of those bands...When I was young I grabbed their self titled and loved every track though unfortunately (like now) I had little money due to schooling (and now uni) so I downloaded the rest of their gear. Over time I've collected every one of their cds when I've seen them on special around the place and I've had the cash plus I've been to several concerts when they come by.
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So really I do as much as I think I should to morally justify it to myself - they aren't losing sales because I buy what I'm able too - so in reality the thing I'm stealing is an unfair use of their content.
It is my opinion that if I continue to do this sort of thing that I am at least going some ways towards fixing the moral divide created by using their content unfairly. And it's nice to see the living end kind of respect that...Hopefully butterfingers are the same.
So how's your pirate camp? ;)
And the system fixes itself with only a few people losing out which in a community of several hundred thousand isn't to bad for every one living happily.
I know I've taken the brunt of a fanatic before in both being modded troll and flameful private messages yet I ignored him and lived happily knowing that metamoderation would see that my post wasn't inflamitory and rasied well researched and clear points and that the person who moderated me troll would lose a percentage of their chance to get mod points again. As far as I can see the system works, those who don't want to mod don't and those who troll get crushed.
I don't want to sound like I also missed the point so I'll say clearly that I'm in favour of automated testing. I just wanted to note that your assumption that closed code is often written by the same bunch of people. While this seems to be the case it often isn't as companys simply don't care about their coders and will turn them over almost monthly if they see need. Many of the closed source industry specific programs at my workplace have whole areas that they refuse to fix because they simply don't know how it works as the coder who did it is long gone. A great example I read yesterday in the world of EVE is that they wanted to use the billboards system for ads and other interesting ingame content but realised that they simply had no idea how to use it and in reality didn't want to try as breaking it would cause havoc - the coder who did it is long gone.
So I think that opensource is on par with the closed source world on this one with both about as likely to clean up differing code as each other...Then again with opensource at least you can pay a 3rd party firm to do it for you.
That is not a trap, it's a feature. Authors are rather odd people in that they fully accept people will steal their work...Possibly because books have been around for five hundred years now, compared to 90 with recorded media and movies, and they know the ropes. On these grounds the CC licences allow them to take the moral high ground of saying 'if you are going to steal my work can you please follow these simple guide lines' (note I am talking about works they are not intending to sell or that they intend for side allowances in sold works) and as the requests are very simple a large percentage of those stealing the works comply. Creative Commons basically worked out what Authors wanted and made licences to fit in with their wishes unlike this crazy situation where the FSF/RMS/community are all separate groups vying for control over what goes in. Of course the CC process left a bunch of documents that have some rather odd requirements but they get the job done the way it is wanted done by those creating the work. Maybe, and I say this knowing it may shoot my usage of opensource software in the foot, the GPL teams could learn some thing from this?
As some one who works with newbs every day I can say without a doubt that the Mozilla people are one hundred percent correct. Having the one download means people will use it; if you put two there they wont know which one to get and wont bother at all...even if you label effectively.
Yes but it holds no real sway with the internet populace. They have about as much respect from the general public as Bush does in Australia when he's waving the latest trade agreement that destorys our health system. Which is perfect for the Internet.
Basically as long as the authority is to busy in a power struggle to govern effectively (set rules and enforce them on the net) we can do what ever the hell we want. It is the number one reason the internet has been so successful.
He doesn't want to install RAID he wants a simple USB keyboard to work. I've noticed this with several USB keyboards recently with friends complaining though I've never had it myself with the hundreds of keyboards I've installed Linux on...I can only assume it is a specific dodgy chip being used or some thing just off about the keyboards in question and changing distro's doesn't really seem to fix it. In the cases I've seen of it I've recommended that the user just buy another USB keyboard which has fixed the problem every time - small investment to make and I'm sure it pays off in TOC pie charts some where. :P
Oh god. I think I just read a Stallman point of view and agreed with every point. :| I didn't think that would ever happen...
I guess I'm going to be one of the people chanting "down with this project" now?
I agree and I'd like to add the reason I ignore game reviews is because they are rarely honest. I have never seen a review of HL2 saying "I disliked this game" or even anything close...It's like the whole review area for games is being bought out by the companies releasing the games. I just don't trust them.
Wait...the non-free world? How the hell is the non-free world any better at all? We've had a major roll over in the last ten days of our mission critical control system that practically runs the place. I've filed over 40 critical bugs and god knows how many others around the place have filed without telling me. Now the pilot and dev teams (third level support) are working closely with us to resolve as many as they can as quickly as possible though that is taking awhile as they are moving more and more of their customers over to the new system. This is all well and good and we've only lost a small percentage of productivity and lost only a few sales, which can be expected in a major upgrade, though the real killer is that there are several bugs we have filed which I know I could fix in five minutes that they have out right told us will never be fixed... This is a situation where OSS would win out and hell we have one of the better closed source proprietors that I know of. So try living in the real world first before you diss free software.
Only the first thirty posts and there are disgusting posts from pissed off users... I hate to be the one to say it - though having to read through several sets of Debian issues and their comments on /. and seeing a lot of Gentoo users flaming I think I should - maybe Gentoo should get its own house in order before it attacks other distros?
Now for the constructive part of this post. Why is this even a problem? Seriously, sit down and talk through the issue, it's not that hard. They don't want to do what you want and you don't want them to do what they want...I've heard of this one before I think it's called life? Gentoo while a bit off some times is a damn good project and one of the shining stars for the Linux communities...and you keep the windows newb gamers off the rest of our backs so for that you get extra brownie points. So for the sake of every one else just talk it through instead of fighting...
Having made several flights lately in light aircraft I've been rather bored and have happily sat watching the bars on my mobile phone...Now I didn't realise there was a full on tin foil hat issue here though my results are as follows:
:)
Outbound from where I live on a Nokia 6230 I had signal for a decent phone call up to ~5,000 feet and could send SMS to around ~6,000 feet, soon after this I lost signal. Leaving on the way back to here I had phone signal for a call up to ~7,000 feet and lost phone and SMS at about the same time.
The Blackberry 7230 I had with me made it another 500-1000 feet over my Nokia in regards to signal though GPRS didn't fare so well. Luckily Brick doesn't require phone signal.
We tended to fly at around 12,000 feet most times and those observations from one trip seem about right for the rest plus I can confirm from having to drive several of the distances that there is full phone coverage a long the routes.
I was about to say this...Windows 98 users have very little trouble switching to Linux. Back when XP came out it was a sidegrade to Linux which a huge group took advantage of and now it is an upgrade which being free should really be pushed hard. Linux with the help of wine practically runs every 3.1/9x program in existence and supports every chunk of hardware sitting out there on boxes that old. It should be a case of dropping in a Ubuntu install cd and everything works...Or even better a wizard based low requirements distro that grabs all of their data from win9x and dumps it on an iPod or similar and then installs Linux with all of their documents moved across. Really the Linux community should pull together and push this chance for what it's worth.
Again I'm off topic though I'd just like to thank kdawson for quality posts today. Good work. :)
I don't agree. While the zealot wars rage on those in the middle tend to keep the playing field rather level. I own a Mac Powerbook (as well as several Linux boxen) and I've personally noticed more and more people starting to buy Apple hardware, mostly because of how impressed they are with their iPods, so at least for Australia I'd question the statistics. Though in reality if some one came out blatantly showing huge increases I'd call bullshit as it clearly isn't happening...Just like Linux Apples market share is only slowly rising. They will both get there one day. ;)
I blame kdawson...Please for the love of god learn formatting!
/. while you are editing it. :( (Watches karma playfully slide around in the mud from this comment.) Also welcome to our favourite IT news site. ;)
I realise you are new and it's probably hard though more effort is required! Don't post crap, and don't spam up the crap you do post with extra lines and pointless links and and and and and...Just be CmdrTaco or Zonk then there wont be a problem! It's getting annoying reading
A lot of the problems with diesel have been ironed out over the last while...Also many countrys sell diesel at the pump next to petrol and lpg(/gas). I know they do in Australia.