I would be interested in any links to court decesions supporting the "right to read" in the first admendment or elsewhere.
In the diary case, your actions would amount to theft not copyright infringment if I had not published it, and I should be able to sue for damages caused by the use of the material stolen (i.e. you read it to my boss showing him the sections where I say he's full of crap and he fires me for it). Even if I leave my keys in the car, leave the car running, it's still grand theft auto when you drive off in it - so I don't see it being my job to keep it private and should I fail you'll be free to do whatever with it.
The limited publication is the real issue worth debate. Scientology has used copyright to protect exactly that - the limited publication of their "secret book." The publication of an internal company memo would be the same issue.
I would also take issue that the constitution does not apply to the private sector, the wording of the 4th for example "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects..." etc gives me a right and does not make that right available only with respect to the goverment. I have a feeling this may get some real debate in courts with the recent Sony issues and I'll be interested in hearing the decisions made in this case since it's a prime example of the private sector violating our rights.
btw, even if I'm not in agreement with you, I do acknowlodge I am not a lawyer, and I am probably wrong on all counts, but I have enjoyed reading your well thought out posts.
Welcome to Joss Weldon's world... he kills characters. You can never count on everyone making it though to the end, you don't get your "saftey net" with him.
Instead he brings you a good story. In time, you'll see this is better than knowing the blue shirts will live and the reds will die every episode.
"Quite false. There is an inherent right to free speech, and this encompasses repeating what another has said. Copyright is a temporary imposition on this, but that's all. Someone who could never have afforded to buy a copy of Tom Sawyer has an inherent right to it. We gave Twain a limited, temporary right to bar that, but we took it away again as well."
I disagree with your view of the first admendment. My right to speak (or write) does not grant you the right to listen (or read). To do so would infringe upon my implied (1, 4, 5 and 14 admendments) right to privacy. You wouldn't claim a right to read a person's private diary would you?
When I publish something, then things will be come determined by copyright law - my act of publication shows I no longer view the item as private. Still, even though it is published you have no right to read it under the 1st admendment, that gives me the right to publish it.
Copyright takes the 1st admendment and provides only some guidelines for the gray areas. Like when I publish a book to select people only (Scientology). If you happen to get access to this book, and find it to be offensive to yourself or others, you will want to speak out on this matter. This is where my right to privacy conflicts with your right to free speech and copyright guide lines come into play. Every case is different, but I'm sure you know the factors are the amount of the work copied, and the use of that copy. As a last protection, should you be found guily of copyright, copyright law keeps you from jail time (excepting mass piracy and an intent to sell pirated copies) - very important since the threat of jail would probably silence more people from speaking up.
I do agree with you that copyright is not about "getting the author paid."
Last, for anyone (not the OP) who has read this far and wants to know why the DMCA is bad in all cases is it makes any copy of the work illegal with the threat of jail time simply by claiming a "copy protection system or device" was bypassed to make the copy (in whole or part). The "system or device" can be anything they say it is, down to a flag of 1 means allow copies and 0 means don't. How the copy will be used is irrelvent.
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I wish I had mod points today to give you; I've often described python as delivering on java's promise. Java has many great ideas, but got botched along the way... python isn't all the way down the road yet, but it's on the same road and avoiding pot holes java hit. Perl and PHP aren't on the same road - if that's good or bad depends on the problem they are solving.
I'm a father who is currently looking to buy lego for his girls this xmas. I had tons of lego as a kid (mid 80's) and remember all the fun I has with them and my brothers.
Why I'm not going to buy new legos, and ebay only:
Number one is in the parent; the new sets - even the large ones - don't have enough basic peices in them. Don't get me wrong, the specialized pieces are cool, and as a kid would drive which sets we wanted next, but they only end up make like 5% of the creation; 95% is basic blocks. And this is key... it's the reuse of those basic blocks in new ways I want to have my girls learning.
Number two, the price. Legos have always been costly, but now it's insane. I'm sorry, but it's just plastic parts. Maybe if you didn't have to make 3,000 different piece shapes the cost to make would be lower.
Reading posts here, i'm not alone. Even without a survey of parents like me, lego could just look to ebay to see what sells and what doesn't. Lego needs to fire the research staff, or the monkey not listening, which ever is the case and focus on make a good product first and stop trying to "lock in" the customer.
The funny thing about a childs toy... customers are being born all the time.
Thank you for pointing this out... I RTFA and saw that they "continue to find new evidence on computers seized"... no one contacted google... I was hoping I wouldn't have to scroll too far down to find someone had pointed out what the mods missed.
This is only worth of a fark dumbass headline, "Man forgets to clear cache after killing wife, now can't clean name"
It has also been tried to sue the gun makers for the actions of the gun user (which is the point the wikipedia guy below missed by just a bit).
You TiVo example breks down... you are showing the actions of the user, and not the marketing of TiVo. You're tie to fair use is also irrelevant. The people being held liable are not the people who commited the crime, it's the people who made the device that was used in the crime.
What we have here is, "Grokster said (or implied) we could do it!" and the Judge saying, "okay, then it's not your fault, you didn't know better."
What about guns marketed to kill people (aka "home protection")?
I know it's a leap, but marketing method should not factor in to the tool or the use. If a TiVo w/DVD burner marketed "Copy HBO movies and burn them for friends!" would TiVo then be an illegal device?
You'll get my TiVo when you pry the remote from my cold dead hands...
AC, have you looked up the word Rampant? I do no think that word means what you think it means.
I lived in Korea in the mid 90's, around the time of the crash. I could walk down any of the shopping districts and there were people on the street selling pirated everything. I even bought a pirated book once, just to have it (I'm impressed by the effort to pirate a book). They would get busted for selling porn (Korea has strict rules there), but not software. If something wasn't out you wanted, all you had to do was ask and the guy would check in the back if he had it, and would make a copy there if needed.
You have pegged reality quite well. If you are looking to be a PHP developer and make $60K+ a year, you will have a hard time finding a job. Low barrier to entry means even if you do write good, secure, scalable code in PHP you will have to compete with far more resumes for the job than if you were Java.
Just look at your local jobs section, or favorite tech jobs site. Search on Java, then search on PHP - the java guy has far more choices. (then for fun, search.NET)
Marc is getting paid well to spend time in PHP, are you?
"MySQL is prolific, I'll give it that. But its created a cadre of developers who don't know why 'INNER JOIN' is better than just 'select table1,table2', or that string parsing should be done on the application level, not the DB level."
And oracle teaching to use (+) for right join in the where clause is that much better?
And what are you saying about strings? Last I checked, MySQL had far more built in functions for strings, dates, well... everything than oracle.
Why not keep both on as president? That way there would always be more than one way to get something done... I'm sure that never leads to problems./who let this python guy in the room?
Douglas Adams is the screenwriter of the (2005) movie, it might be nice to give him credit even though he didn't live to see it completed. Whether or not *you* liked the movie is irrelevant.
Just getting though the topics in catb would be great. If there was time hitting sf.net for the process in practice, and also having students find a project on sf.net and contributing would be a great "finals" project.
I seem to recall reading some M$ sales info on the XBoX a few years ago (I'm too lazt to find a link) that said if 10% of the user base gets a hardware add-on, that is consider a good margin for an add on. Unless your company also sells the addon then, it's not worth development cost to code for an addon. I thought these were the reasons they included a HD and Broadband in the XBoX, so they would be used by developers, and thus a reason XBoX was better than a PS2.
I think they see XBoX as a failure, even though they said they expected a loss. They are now trying to not repeat themselves, but they don't know why XBoX failed. It failed because of the lack of games, not the platform. How sad is it when I mod my XBoX so I can BT any games I want and realize the 5 I bought are the only 5 I'm intereste in playing?
I love my XBoX, it runs mame, streams avi's, and mp3's, does karaoke, taps into my tivo, and lists the latest/. rss. If I can't do all that *and* have great games on 360, I'm happy where I'm at now.
Always the same, MySQL sucks because it lacks the feature, or doesn't do well with a brazillion records. Unless you work for NASA or some such, why the hell do you have a table that big? STOP LOGGING APACHE WITH MYSQL. Oh wait, I've done that with no trouble using MySQL.
I'm a good programmer. I unit test, I regression test. I alpha, I beta, I gamma. I dig hip MVCrack and n-teir joints. I believe in a world where my data layer hold only data, and logic live in it's own house.
So why does everyone tell me I should put logic in my data layer? Even the idea of transactions... letting my data layer tell me it's all okay, makes me shiver. How does it know it's all okay? Because I sent it a float, string and zipcode? I get the same feeling in my tummy when I see perl code using a regex to verify user input.
Am I the only one who sees a select joining a table 3 times over, a sub-select, a stored procedure and a group by all in one statment and thinks, we should look at the schema and code and see where we can fix this?
Don't get me wrong, I think Oracle is pretty neat. I just think we have these academics arguing their vision of a database to actual developers, and we live on different planets. (academics are like life on mars, we think they are living things, but have no proof yet).
You don't know your game history then, I can tell. Sierra, in it's high days of the Kings Quest / Police Quest / Larry / etc games did the same approach. I don't think anyone is saying all those classic games were crap because they had the forsight to wrote code in an intelligent manner?
Or think about it another way. I have 5 game ideas; I can either a) write the first game in such a way that it takes 3 years to do, but 1.5 years for each game after, or b) I can spend 3 years on each game, writing code that does the exact same thing over and over again for each game, and each game taking 2-3 years.
Oh yes, my games will be filled with more bugs too because of a new code base each time. With option a, once the bug is fixed in the engine, I don't have to worry about it appearing again. So in theroy each game will take less time than the one before it.
It's either that, adopt a Blizzard release schedule, or release something before it's time because the development costs are running to high and it's time to cash out.
Also, why is it assumed that because a man builds a house, he cannot then be a good story teller in that house?
Sun wants to have the best of both worlds; hackers working on their stuff and yet keeping their control over it. When Java was released, Sun was very bad in working with the community on Java; it was Sun's way or it wasn't done. This lead to many hackers not wasting their time on it, and opened the door to Microsoft to play their games on Java.
Also, because Sun saw Java as a revenue product, marketing guys will want to sex it up every year. Java, Java Beans, Serverlets, and more. Versions that don't work with other versions.
Add to this it's history of preformance and lack of opensource support (there is the Apache Tomcat project, but take lots of care if you are going to build a deployment system with it.. and you would think sun would have addressed the java install issues for firefox/mozilla themselves). I really think now it will be a case of too little to late. Python is up and coming, and I think Python appeals more to a java programmer than a perl / php guy. That is, once you learn to love the bomb and stop usinging braces and semicolons =p
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I would be interested in any links to court decesions supporting the "right to read" in the first admendment or elsewhere.
In the diary case, your actions would amount to theft not copyright infringment if I had not published it, and I should be able to sue for damages caused by the use of the material stolen (i.e. you read it to my boss showing him the sections where I say he's full of crap and he fires me for it). Even if I leave my keys in the car, leave the car running, it's still grand theft auto when you drive off in it - so I don't see it being my job to keep it private and should I fail you'll be free to do whatever with it.
The limited publication is the real issue worth debate. Scientology has used copyright to protect exactly that - the limited publication of their "secret book." The publication of an internal company memo would be the same issue.
I would also take issue that the constitution does not apply to the private sector, the wording of the 4th for example "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects..." etc gives me a right and does not make that right available only with respect to the goverment. I have a feeling this may get some real debate in courts with the recent Sony issues and I'll be interested in hearing the decisions made in this case since it's a prime example of the private sector violating our rights.
btw, even if I'm not in agreement with you, I do acknowlodge I am not a lawyer, and I am probably wrong on all counts, but I have enjoyed reading your well thought out posts.
Welcome to Joss Weldon's world... he kills characters. You can never count on everyone making it though to the end, you don't get your "saftey net" with him.
Instead he brings you a good story. In time, you'll see this is better than knowing the blue shirts will live and the reds will die every episode.
"Quite false. There is an inherent right to free speech, and this encompasses repeating what another has said. Copyright is a temporary imposition on this, but that's all. Someone who could never have afforded to buy a copy of Tom Sawyer has an inherent right to it. We gave Twain a limited, temporary right to bar that, but we took it away again as well."
I disagree with your view of the first admendment. My right to speak (or write) does not grant you the right to listen (or read). To do so would infringe upon my implied (1, 4, 5 and 14 admendments) right to privacy. You wouldn't claim a right to read a person's private diary would you?
When I publish something, then things will be come determined by copyright law - my act of publication shows I no longer view the item as private. Still, even though it is published you have no right to read it under the 1st admendment, that gives me the right to publish it.
Copyright takes the 1st admendment and provides only some guidelines for the gray areas. Like when I publish a book to select people only (Scientology). If you happen to get access to this book, and find it to be offensive to yourself or others, you will want to speak out on this matter. This is where my right to privacy conflicts with your right to free speech and copyright guide lines come into play. Every case is different, but I'm sure you know the factors are the amount of the work copied, and the use of that copy. As a last protection, should you be found guily of copyright, copyright law keeps you from jail time (excepting mass piracy and an intent to sell pirated copies) - very important since the threat of jail would probably silence more people from speaking up.
I do agree with you that copyright is not about "getting the author paid."
Last, for anyone (not the OP) who has read this far and wants to know why the DMCA is bad in all cases is it makes any copy of the work illegal with the threat of jail time simply by claiming a "copy protection system or device" was bypassed to make the copy (in whole or part). The "system or device" can be anything they say it is, down to a flag of 1 means allow copies and 0 means don't. How the copy will be used is irrelvent.
I wish I had mod points today to give you; I've often described python as delivering on java's promise. Java has many great ideas, but got botched along the way... python isn't all the way down the road yet, but it's on the same road and avoiding pot holes java hit. Perl and PHP aren't on the same road - if that's good or bad depends on the problem they are solving.
I'm a father who is currently looking to buy lego for his girls this xmas. I had tons of lego as a kid (mid 80's) and remember all the fun I has with them and my brothers.
Why I'm not going to buy new legos, and ebay only:
Number one is in the parent; the new sets - even the large ones - don't have enough basic peices in them. Don't get me wrong, the specialized pieces are cool, and as a kid would drive which sets we wanted next, but they only end up make like 5% of the creation; 95% is basic blocks. And this is key... it's the reuse of those basic blocks in new ways I want to have my girls learning.
Number two, the price. Legos have always been costly, but now it's insane. I'm sorry, but it's just plastic parts. Maybe if you didn't have to make 3,000 different piece shapes the cost to make would be lower.
Reading posts here, i'm not alone. Even without a survey of parents like me, lego could just look to ebay to see what sells and what doesn't. Lego needs to fire the research staff, or the monkey not listening, which ever is the case and focus on make a good product first and stop trying to "lock in" the customer.
The funny thing about a childs toy... customers are being born all the time.
Thank you for pointing this out... I RTFA and saw that they "continue to find new evidence on computers seized"... no one contacted google... I was hoping I wouldn't have to scroll too far down to find someone had pointed out what the mods missed.
This is only worth of a fark dumbass headline, "Man forgets to clear cache after killing wife, now can't clean name"
It has also been tried to sue the gun makers for the actions of the gun user (which is the point the wikipedia guy below missed by just a bit).
You TiVo example breks down... you are showing the actions of the user, and not the marketing of TiVo. You're tie to fair use is also irrelevant. The people being held liable are not the people who commited the crime, it's the people who made the device that was used in the crime.
What we have here is, "Grokster said (or implied) we could do it!" and the Judge saying, "okay, then it's not your fault, you didn't know better."
What about guns marketed to kill people (aka "home protection")?
I know it's a leap, but marketing method should not factor in to the tool or the use. If a TiVo w/DVD burner marketed "Copy HBO movies and burn them for friends!" would TiVo then be an illegal device?
You'll get my TiVo when you pry the remote from my cold dead hands...
Insightful? Are AC's allowed to mod now too?
AC, have you looked up the word Rampant? I do no think that word means what you think it means.
I lived in Korea in the mid 90's, around the time of the crash. I could walk down any of the shopping districts and there were people on the street selling pirated everything. I even bought a pirated book once, just to have it (I'm impressed by the effort to pirate a book). They would get busted for selling porn (Korea has strict rules there), but not software. If something wasn't out you wanted, all you had to do was ask and the guy would check in the back if he had it, and would make a copy there if needed.
What if D O G really spelled cat?
Seriously, any one who gets that summary is stoned.
Yes, who would have though that programming (aka hacking) is done by highly creative people.
:/
Oh wait, this has been covered before: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html
It's bad enough when the suits think programmers are not creative; worse when I read it on slashdot
You have pegged reality quite well. If you are looking to be a PHP developer and make $60K+ a year, you will have a hard time finding a job. Low barrier to entry means even if you do write good, secure, scalable code in PHP you will have to compete with far more resumes for the job than if you were Java.
.NET)
Just look at your local jobs section, or favorite tech jobs site. Search on Java, then search on PHP - the java guy has far more choices. (then for fun, search
Marc is getting paid well to spend time in PHP, are you?
Because the goverment decideds who gets the sticker and who doesn't, and then tells the stickers who they can and can't sell to.
*thank you and good night*
"MySQL is prolific, I'll give it that. But its created a cadre of developers who don't know why 'INNER JOIN' is better than just 'select table1,table2', or that string parsing should be done on the application level, not the DB level."
And oracle teaching to use (+) for right join in the where clause is that much better?
And what are you saying about strings? Last I checked, MySQL had far more built in functions for strings, dates, well... everything than oracle.
Why not keep both on as president? That way there would always be more than one way to get something done... I'm sure that never leads to problems. /who let this python guy in the room?
Proof that there will alway be someone to buy candlesticks...
Douglas Adams is the screenwriter of the (2005) movie, it might be nice to give him credit even though he didn't live to see it completed. Whether or not *you* liked the movie is irrelevant.
Just getting though the topics in catb would be great. If there was time hitting sf.net for the process in practice, and also having students find a project on sf.net and contributing would be a great "finals" project.
In this case they are http://ps3.ign.com/articles/624/624046p1.html
Do you always ignore the content of comments and stories to post fluff?
I seem to recall reading some M$ sales info on the XBoX a few years ago (I'm too lazt to find a link) that said if 10% of the user base gets a hardware add-on, that is consider a good margin for an add on. Unless your company also sells the addon then, it's not worth development cost to code for an addon. I thought these were the reasons they included a HD and Broadband in the XBoX, so they would be used by developers, and thus a reason XBoX was better than a PS2.
/. rss. If I can't do all that *and* have great games on 360, I'm happy where I'm at now.
I think they see XBoX as a failure, even though they said they expected a loss. They are now trying to not repeat themselves, but they don't know why XBoX failed. It failed because of the lack of games, not the platform. How sad is it when I mod my XBoX so I can BT any games I want and realize the 5 I bought are the only 5 I'm intereste in playing?
I love my XBoX, it runs mame, streams avi's, and mp3's, does karaoke, taps into my tivo, and lists the latest
Just to get users to my blog... oh wait, I don't have any ads... damn phase 2!
Always the same, MySQL sucks because it lacks the feature, or doesn't do well with a brazillion records. Unless you work for NASA or some such, why the hell do you have a table that big? STOP LOGGING APACHE WITH MYSQL. Oh wait, I've done that with no trouble using MySQL.
I'm a good programmer. I unit test, I regression test. I alpha, I beta, I gamma. I dig hip MVCrack and n-teir joints. I believe in a world where my data layer hold only data, and logic live in it's own house.
So why does everyone tell me I should put logic in my data layer? Even the idea of transactions... letting my data layer tell me it's all okay, makes me shiver. How does it know it's all okay? Because I sent it a float, string and zipcode? I get the same feeling in my tummy when I see perl code using a regex to verify user input.
Am I the only one who sees a select joining a table 3 times over, a sub-select, a stored procedure and a group by all in one statment and thinks, we should look at the schema and code and see where we can fix this?
Don't get me wrong, I think Oracle is pretty neat. I just think we have these academics arguing their vision of a database to actual developers, and we live on different planets. (academics are like life on mars, we think they are living things, but have no proof yet).
This should be modded up, Eric covered this topic long ago. The value of software is not bits on the disk but the people who stand behind it.
You don't know your game history then, I can tell. Sierra, in it's high days of the Kings Quest / Police Quest / Larry / etc games did the same approach. I don't think anyone is saying all those classic games were crap because they had the forsight to wrote code in an intelligent manner?
Or think about it another way. I have 5 game ideas; I can either a) write the first game in such a way that it takes 3 years to do, but 1.5 years for each game after, or b) I can spend 3 years on each game, writing code that does the exact same thing over and over again for each game, and each game taking 2-3 years.
Oh yes, my games will be filled with more bugs too because of a new code base each time. With option a, once the bug is fixed in the engine, I don't have to worry about it appearing again. So in theroy each game will take less time than the one before it.
It's either that, adopt a Blizzard release schedule, or release something before it's time because the development costs are running to high and it's time to cash out.
Also, why is it assumed that because a man builds a house, he cannot then be a good story teller in that house?
Sun wants to have the best of both worlds; hackers working on their stuff and yet keeping their control over it. When Java was released, Sun was very bad in working with the community on Java; it was Sun's way or it wasn't done. This lead to many hackers not wasting their time on it, and opened the door to Microsoft to play their games on Java.
Also, because Sun saw Java as a revenue product, marketing guys will want to sex it up every year. Java, Java Beans, Serverlets, and more. Versions that don't work with other versions.
Add to this it's history of preformance and lack of opensource support (there is the Apache Tomcat project, but take lots of care if you are going to build a deployment system with it.. and you would think sun would have addressed the java install issues for firefox/mozilla themselves). I really think now it will be a case of too little to late. Python is up and coming, and I think Python appeals more to a java programmer than a perl / php guy. That is, once you learn to love the bomb and stop usinging braces and semicolons =p