You're argument is roughly as valid as the argument politicians use to give use tax breaks to corporations to move into their area. Everytime someone plays one of these arguments, its fairly clear that the tax breaks are not made up by income in taxes from the secondary sources like the claims you make.
The university isn't there to make some landlords more money, its there to educate. Its not there to prop up the city, but its also not there burden the city unduly.
They do. Both CMU and Pitt have private police forces. And you don't think that things like Pitt games bring venue to the city? The city seems to think so.
By private, do you mean seperate divisions of the city police force? Thats the way it is in most areas. NCSU for instance has the NCSU police force, all self contained, except that its part of the county Sherrifs office.
Or by private do you mean, private as in not part of the existing government but still funded by tax dollars for citizens?
Do you know what endowment means? I don't think you do.
Universities don't have to charge that much, 99.9% of the staff is over paid. About the only ones who aren't are the poor janitors that have to put up with all the shit the arrogant students give them.
Universities regularly (not targeting Pitt or CMU in this particular instance mind you) spend money on things like sports, so they can get money from alumni to 'fund' the school, of course the money they get from the alumni is generally given with the clear understanding that it will only be used to promote the football program. So while they spend some money to get more than that back, what they get back doesn't go to funding education, it goes to funding things that aren't really part of education proper.
There are two groups of people that think these schools have it hard. The ignorant, and the people who work at them.
I'm not against helping educate our people, but any one who thinks the current University system in America is an efficient implementation of the system s an idiot. They are wasteful, inefficient, self serving bureaucracy who's only purpose is to over pay those working at them. 99% of the people working at these schools simply care about how to get paid more money, and care nothing about actually educating the students in any useful way.
Living in dorms, no, they aren't paying property tax, nor is is the University in most states, public schools of course don't pay any.
Most students these days use income in the form of loans, which never get taxed. The income used to repay them gets taxed initially and the tax on it is refunded at the end of the year.
A lot of students who do work do so as waiters and waitresses, and most tips do not get taxed, only the bear minimum they have to report by law since they do everything they can to avoid getting taxed. Every waiter I know gets negative values on their checks as they 'owe' more taxes than they actually get out of the restaurant, of course that never gets paid.
They get exemptions and credits big enough to get any income tax they do end up paying back in full. If they bother to put some effort into it, most can get more money out of filing taxes than the put in.
My wife finished vet school last year, taxes were a credit to her balance sheet, not a liability.
With that said, I have absolutely no problem helping out young, first time students. Its for the good of the nation and planet in general. I'm happy to pickup the slack so they can focus on being students, but only if they graduate. If they don't, I expect payment in full for every dime of my money they used. Not to me, but back to the system so someone else can use it.
Professional students can kiss my ass:) I'm not okay with career college students, it is a pet peeve of mine. At some point you have to take responsibility for the betterment of yourself, I'm not okay with using my money to help you find a new job, at least not in America. In our country there is no excuse for any able bodied person to not be able to support themselves, and certainly not excuse for not being able to better yourself. If we were talking about some starving farmer in Ethiopia I might feel differently, but not in America, not even in these 'bad times', which by any any starving Ethiopian's definition would be the party of a life time.
Quick add up the following items: Coke: $0.49 Candy Bar $0.87 Bag of chips: $1.34 Calculate total purchase price with 6% sales tax.
Now tell me that calculators or their cousins the POS/Cash register haven't effectively removed peoples basic math abilities.
They are tools, yes, and they most certainly are responsible for changing peoples ability to do certain things. You can't deny it and pretend it didn't happen. So the common man isn't as good at basic math, that ability has been replaced with something else. Thats just the way it works, always has, always will.
Even the music functions of an iPhone aren't as good as a regular iPod
I own an older ipod, an ipod touch, and an iPhone. Now I know the touch and the iphone are identical from a music point of view. I could not, with them side by side, find a difference in functionality between the old ipods and the iphone.
It just tortures you into being unable to ever get any sort of relief from the withdrawal symptoms.
This isn't an anti-smoking vaccine. This is a torture people with no hope relief while they still crave it for the rest of their lives drug.
In short, it would be useful only to someone who has never smoked, otherwise its just mean.
Then you're screwed when they later find out the nicotine is useful for certain things... which... they... are... learning. Yes, nicotine is beneficial for some things.
I haven't smoked in 6 years or so. Find me a drug that makes it so I don't wake up every morning and have the first thought in my head be 'god I want a cig' and I'm there, but this sort of crap is a bad idea.
Its FAR easier to quit smoking pot than to quit smoking tobacco.
Alcoholism is a mental illness, only the cult of AA tries to convince anyone that there is a physical dependency. And no, the horrible shitty hangover you get after being drunk for half your life doesn't count as physical dependence. Most people who think they are 'addicted' to alcohol wouldn't know a real addiction if it slapped them in the face with its PUD a few times.
First off, its not actually 'worse' than any other seasonal flu. Its actually less of a concern. You've just been involved in a media FUD campaign for ratings.
Second, it is in no way 'interspecies'. Pigs don't get 'infected with swine flu'. The 'swine flu' name comes from the fact that part of the DNA sequence for the virus is shared with a strain that pigs get. You can't get the strain that pigs get. Pigs can't get the strain you get.
Third, ALMOST EVERY SINGLE VIRUS IS THE EXACT SAME WAY. We're JUST NOW getting to the point where we can do DNA sequencing on the scale we need to detect this sort of stuff. This isn't anything new in any way, the only thing new is that this is something the media could pick up on and whip people into a frenzy to keep them listening.
Finally. Your daughter likely was already building up an immunity it it via seeing it in daycare. She probably got it in tiny enough doses that her immune system could combat it and when she was fully exposed from it being in your home she was better prepared to deal with it. Theres also the fact that she probably hasn't been sick enough times in her life yet to know to whine, bitch and moan about the flu like most adults do. Children typically show signs of illness a lot different than adults for many reasons. They of course have different immune systems. They typically don't realize they are 'feeling bad' when its minor, and even when they do its much harder for them to communicate it or realize they should communicate it at that stage.
This isn't a new strain, everyone born before roughly 1956 has an immunity too it. This strain is one that once you've fought it off, you won't get it again, you're body will deal with it for the rest of your life. There was an 'outbreak' of it during the 50s, because of that, everyone that got it back then isn't effected now. Of course there are a few people who didn't get it back then and are getting it now, but thats just the way it works.
I wish you luck, the media FUD that has made everyone paranoid and falsely inflated the statistics and people drive to get the vaccine is screwing you.
Unfortunately, whats going to happen is they'll just find a couple cases where the vaccine 'didn't work' and so it'll be a whole new paranoia and they'll stop producing the current vaccine in favor of a new one.
The CDC has, somewhere buried on its site that I found a month or so back some states about the mortality rates, sorry I'm not going to bother to find you a link but if you look hard enough google will for you.
Summary:
This strain of H1N1 seasonal a. AKA the swine flu: Mortality rate of %0.05
The standard average over the last 50 years or so for the seasonal strains combined is %0.16
So last year, 3 times more people would have died from the flu last year than this year. Total deaths accounted to it will be higher, EVERYONE is reporting when they get the flu this year do to paranoia caused by media FUD. Most of these people die from complications with other illness. These people in past years wouldn't have been counted as flu deaths because the level of 'awareness' was far lower. People just didnt' think to account it to the flu directly.
True, but we're can pretty accurately say it. See the interesting thing about 'the swine flu' is that if you account for the media FUD skewing the numbers then it really ISN'T THAT DIFFERENT THAN EVERY OTHER YEAR.
Yes there are more reports this year, because 90% of the public who would have just 'had the flu' and kept going like they have every other year for the past several thousand, this year they stay home. They went to the doctor. They told their friends. They made others stay away from them and stayed home.
If you treat this like every other year, and account for the difference in numbers caused by media FUD, then they can make some pretty accurate predictions. The most important factor is that this particular strain of the flu is a 'get it once and don't get it ever again' kind of strain. In most seasons you will get infected more than once. You won't with this strain, which is why people born in the 50s or earlier have nothing to worry about. They've already had it and as STILL immune to it.
When you look at it that way, and take into account that by this point pretty much EVERYONE has got it, then its a safe bet that we've hit the peak, unless it suddenly mutates which would make it fall well outside the normal. Its possible but unlikely.
The media circus around it is the only reason anything happened this year different than last year.
Considering the amount of FUD spread by the media, the numbers for flu cases and deaths this year isn't really higher than normal. If everyone was as paranoid about the flu every year, we'd see pretty much the same thing.
Take a good look at the CDCs weekly states for this flu season, its really not that bad. The difference is everyone saying 'OMG I GOT SWINE FLUZ I'M GONNA DIE STAY AWAY AND SAVE YOURSELF!@$!@%!@#^!#@%'
Hard drives don't really get a lot of air circulation through them. They generally have a single hole in the case to allow for pressure equalization, and many have a spongy filter over them so the air exchange with the drive is very minor.
Fans are somewhat designed for it. Fans deal with everything in the air anyway, and have to keep dust out by design since they'll see the highest amount of it, so their design naturally reduces the amount of air that reaches the critical parts. With that said, fans around pets and smokers DO fail sooner on average in my experience.
Dogs seem to be as bad as cats in my house. The worst problem with 'build up' on fans and and heat sinks I saw was when we were holding onto the in-law's Parrot for several months.
Saw more build up in a month from a single bird on the other side of the house than the dogs who sleep about a foot away from the air intake on one PC over six months. Not that the dogs aren't bad, but god the bird was horrible. She also liked to bite me and thought she was the boss, but thats just part of being female I think.
I have several PCs in my home doing media center stuff, all my TVs get their signal from a PC. Anything sitting on the floor, near where pets are allowed (we have two dogs, one long hair, one short) is just disgusting inside and I clean them every 6 months or so to get the crap out of the fan.
The ones up higher, or in the closet stay relatively clean. They still get it worse than the PCs in our office where pets very rarely show up, but there is certainly major damage caused by pet dander and hair at home.
Biohazard is a bullshit exuse. Period. End of story. Put a mask on if you are so retarded as to think that you are somehow going to inhale enough to case an issue. You get more damage from the paint on the walls that leeches chemicals into the air of the repair room everyday than opening a computer up. The tar that collects the dust and ash HOLDS ON TO IT, thats why it collects, otherwise it would just pass through like all the other dust particles in the air.
Failure due to excessive tar and ash is fair in my mind, biohazard is not. Prove the tar and ash caused the failure, but don't pull some bullshit biohazard crap out of your ass.
Many people use computers in environments where dust is rampant. I see no reason to believe that a smoker should be considered an unsafe environment by default. Excessive, sure, but you also better reject everyone with excessive pet hair, dust in general and all the other crap that almost every household has in it.
As for smoking in a car, the miracle of modern technology is that we have chemicals now that can make the smoking in a car a non-issue. Its just an excuse to pay you less for a trade in. You trade in a car thats been smoked in, they treat it, put it on the lot and no one will notice. You'll notice an untreated car from a shitty dealer or a bad treatment, but good dealers have no problem getting rid of the smell. If you know how to do it, you can treat the car yourself and the dealer won't notice unless he/she is particularly attentive and notices the smell of the treatment, which smells nothing like anything you'd associate with a smoker. Hell, Fabreeze spread in the airconditioner/heater intakes while its running for a hour or two is enough to fool most dealers.
I don't believe any device has broke because of sweat alone. I've put my iPods and iPhones through hell, and since you probably notice the plural form of iPhones, I've broken a couple, my current one has a cracked display.
They've survived far more water than any normal sweating human being could have possibly got in the device unless you were intentionally collecting it and pouring it into the headphone jack.
I just don't buy it.
I'm more inclined to believe the notes about 'sweating into it' causing a problem being a polite way to call someone out on getting it wet without calling them a liar.
You're correct, smoke and tar is bad for most things. If it can be demonstrated to cause the failure, they don't have to repair it in my opinion.
You're also an idiot for the second-hand smoke statement. Stop puppeting back out what other idiots pushing an agenda through lies feed you. Get a clue, learn some facts, stop reading truth.com and repeating what Al Gore says.
However, Apple isn't repairing the machines claiming its an OSHA violation. The claim is that its unhealthy for the repair techs. That is bullshit. Computers are FILLED with hazardous components. Do you know how many things in the power supply alone can cause cancer? Apple is claiming that it would violate OSHA so they can't work on it. Its Apples problem to protect their employees from hazardous materials, not the customer.
The should have simply left the health hazard bullshit out of the reply emails and left it with the previously stated facts which were more than enough reason to not repair the machines. Ash and tar are bad for unprotected motherboards, clog heat sinks and gum up fans. Done. Those are true statements and given enough of them, a PC can fail. It can also fail from dust, pet hair, dead skin cells and all sorts of other stuff. IF there was enough in there to cause failure then fine don't repair it. Claiming an OSHA violation is bullshit. Its their responsibility to protect their employees. Its also their responsibility to produce hardware capable of withstanding a typical operating environment or lose customers for it.
If Apple told me they wouldn't repair my MBP because it was full of pet hair and it caused things to fail, I'd probably be okay with it. Of course, I'd take it apart myself to verify it, but then I'd have cleaned it out before I took it to them anyway. If they come back to me and claim its 'unsafe' then I'm going to have a problem.
When I first saw the headline I figured it was acceptable.
I figured that it was due to the fact that ash and tar build up are very good at causing all sorts of issues to a PC. That is undeniable if you've worked on any heavy smoker's PC if they smoke around it.
But no...
They aren't servicing it because of a bullshit execuse like lung cancer for the repair tech? You've have got to fucking be kidding me. If they were actually concerned about what might be inhaled they'd already be using safe breathing procedures, A blown capacitor produces far more carcinigens than any residue left over from smoking.
The car they drove to work put out more pollution and dangerous chemicals before they left the driveway than inhaling second hand smoke from the mouth of a smoker.
I'm fine with safe working conditions, but this sort of shit is just ridiculous. I'm not a smoker, but I'm so sick and tired of this retarded sort of shit. I'm sick of those retarded jackasses that will start coughing and bitching about smoke when they are 30 feet upwind of a smoker. They can't even smell the shit.
I'm tired of the bullshit implication that second hand smoke is worse than first hand. I'm tired of the retarded 'education' done by uppity bitches pushing their agenda to stop smoking.
I'm about to start smoking just to blow smoke in the faces of these people.
Apple can refuse to repair machines for legitimate reasons, smoking included. 'The repairman is inhaling it' isn't a legitimate reason. If the units have ash and tar in them, they'll also have hair, skin cells, bacteria and fungus spores, from humans and pets, every chemical in the environment the unit has been in and all sorts of other shit. The tar and ash from smokers is the least of your concern, or at least it should be.
Refusing repair because the ash has stopped air from moving through a heatsink, fine. Tar build up has caused a fan to stop working or resulted in a short, fine. As long as you refuse repairs for all of these reasons unrelated to smoking so people stop buying your products when they realize you don't make them properly to handle everyday use.
They refused to service my iPhone. Only one of two detectors was slightly discolored. Actually they were going to replace it initially, but then I told them why it needed repaired.
I fell into a lake while fishing, and when I got out, much to my dismay, water literally POURED out of the headphone jack for several seconds.
I take my phone with me in the bathroom when I take a shower so I can browser porn^H^H^H^Hslashdot while the water warms up. This small bathroom is generally so filled with steam by the time the shower is over that the glass is beading water all over it. The detectors don't trigger.
If your litmus detector flags, in my experience, the device has been freaking drenched, regardless of the people posting online who have drown their devices and are trying to scam replacements.
Wow, way to exagerate beyond belief. You're also one of those people that coughs when someone outside, 30 feet away, downwind is smoking too, aren't you?
I don't smoke and I still hate this sort of ridiculous shit.
Safari != webkit, Chromium != Google Chrome. Sorry to burst your bubble.
Webkit is a rendering engine. Its pretty useless without supporting code. The link you gave links you to a loadable library essentially. The app icon you get for OSX actually runs a script that has Safari use the webkit library from the package, but the UI and everything else is still the same old Safari thats installed on the system.
If someone bothered to put the effort into it, you could stuff IE's renderer into Safari on Windows, or you could stuff Firefox's Gecko into Safari on Windows or Mac.
Chromium is not Chrome. They may share a common tree, but they aren't the same either. Chrome may be built from a snapshot of the chromium tree, but that doesn't give you nightlies of chrome.
So now we're down to... Firefox is the only browser with Nightly builds.
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You're argument is roughly as valid as the argument politicians use to give use tax breaks to corporations to move into their area. Everytime someone plays one of these arguments, its fairly clear that the tax breaks are not made up by income in taxes from the secondary sources like the claims you make.
The university isn't there to make some landlords more money, its there to educate. Its not there to prop up the city, but its also not there burden the city unduly.
By private, do you mean seperate divisions of the city police force? Thats the way it is in most areas. NCSU for instance has the NCSU police force, all self contained, except that its part of the county Sherrifs office.
Or by private do you mean, private as in not part of the existing government but still funded by tax dollars for citizens?
Do you know what endowment means? I don't think you do.
Universities don't have to charge that much, 99.9% of the staff is over paid. About the only ones who aren't are the poor janitors that have to put up with all the shit the arrogant students give them.
Universities regularly (not targeting Pitt or CMU in this particular instance mind you) spend money on things like sports, so they can get money from alumni to 'fund' the school, of course the money they get from the alumni is generally given with the clear understanding that it will only be used to promote the football program. So while they spend some money to get more than that back, what they get back doesn't go to funding education, it goes to funding things that aren't really part of education proper.
There are two groups of people that think these schools have it hard. The ignorant, and the people who work at them.
I'm not against helping educate our people, but any one who thinks the current University system in America is an efficient implementation of the system s an idiot. They are wasteful, inefficient, self serving bureaucracy who's only purpose is to over pay those working at them. 99% of the people working at these schools simply care about how to get paid more money, and care nothing about actually educating the students in any useful way.
Living in dorms, no, they aren't paying property tax, nor is is the University in most states, public schools of course don't pay any.
Most students these days use income in the form of loans, which never get taxed. The income used to repay them gets taxed initially and the tax on it is refunded at the end of the year.
A lot of students who do work do so as waiters and waitresses, and most tips do not get taxed, only the bear minimum they have to report by law since they do everything they can to avoid getting taxed. Every waiter I know gets negative values on their checks as they 'owe' more taxes than they actually get out of the restaurant, of course that never gets paid.
They get exemptions and credits big enough to get any income tax they do end up paying back in full. If they bother to put some effort into it, most can get more money out of filing taxes than the put in.
My wife finished vet school last year, taxes were a credit to her balance sheet, not a liability.
With that said, I have absolutely no problem helping out young, first time students. Its for the good of the nation and planet in general. I'm happy to pickup the slack so they can focus on being students, but only if they graduate. If they don't, I expect payment in full for every dime of my money they used. Not to me, but back to the system so someone else can use it.
Professional students can kiss my ass :) I'm not okay with career college students, it is a pet peeve of mine. At some point you have to take responsibility for the betterment of yourself, I'm not okay with using my money to help you find a new job, at least not in America. In our country there is no excuse for any able bodied person to not be able to support themselves, and certainly not excuse for not being able to better yourself. If we were talking about some starving farmer in Ethiopia I might feel differently, but not in America, not even in these 'bad times', which by any any starving Ethiopian's definition would be the party of a life time.
Funny, I thought 10.6.2 didn't run on Atom processors.
Quick add up the following items:
Coke: $0.49
Candy Bar $0.87
Bag of chips: $1.34
Calculate total purchase price with 6% sales tax.
Now tell me that calculators or their cousins the POS/Cash register haven't effectively removed peoples basic math abilities.
They are tools, yes, and they most certainly are responsible for changing peoples ability to do certain things. You can't deny it and pretend it didn't happen. So the common man isn't as good at basic math, that ability has been replaced with something else. Thats just the way it works, always has, always will.
I own an older ipod, an ipod touch, and an iPhone. Now I know the touch and the iphone are identical from a music point of view. I could not, with them side by side, find a difference in functionality between the old ipods and the iphone.
I'm gonna call citation needed on that one.
Please, someone make something that will obsolete slashvertisments disguised as rehashed top ten lists.
No, it really doesn't.
It just tortures you into being unable to ever get any sort of relief from the withdrawal symptoms.
This isn't an anti-smoking vaccine. This is a torture people with no hope relief while they still crave it for the rest of their lives drug.
In short, it would be useful only to someone who has never smoked, otherwise its just mean.
Then you're screwed when they later find out the nicotine is useful for certain things ... which ... they ... are ... learning. Yes, nicotine is beneficial for some things.
I haven't smoked in 6 years or so. Find me a drug that makes it so I don't wake up every morning and have the first thought in my head be 'god I want a cig' and I'm there, but this sort of crap is a bad idea.
Its FAR easier to quit smoking pot than to quit smoking tobacco.
Alcoholism is a mental illness, only the cult of AA tries to convince anyone that there is a physical dependency. And no, the horrible shitty hangover you get after being drunk for half your life doesn't count as physical dependence. Most people who think they are 'addicted' to alcohol wouldn't know a real addiction if it slapped them in the face with its PUD a few times.
First off, its not actually 'worse' than any other seasonal flu. Its actually less of a concern. You've just been involved in a media FUD campaign for ratings.
Second, it is in no way 'interspecies'. Pigs don't get 'infected with swine flu'. The 'swine flu' name comes from the fact that part of the DNA sequence for the virus is shared with a strain that pigs get. You can't get the strain that pigs get. Pigs can't get the strain you get.
Third, ALMOST EVERY SINGLE VIRUS IS THE EXACT SAME WAY. We're JUST NOW getting to the point where we can do DNA sequencing on the scale we need to detect this sort of stuff. This isn't anything new in any way, the only thing new is that this is something the media could pick up on and whip people into a frenzy to keep them listening.
Finally. Your daughter likely was already building up an immunity it it via seeing it in daycare. She probably got it in tiny enough doses that her immune system could combat it and when she was fully exposed from it being in your home she was better prepared to deal with it. Theres also the fact that she probably hasn't been sick enough times in her life yet to know to whine, bitch and moan about the flu like most adults do. Children typically show signs of illness a lot different than adults for many reasons. They of course have different immune systems. They typically don't realize they are 'feeling bad' when its minor, and even when they do its much harder for them to communicate it or realize they should communicate it at that stage.
This isn't a new strain, everyone born before roughly 1956 has an immunity too it. This strain is one that once you've fought it off, you won't get it again, you're body will deal with it for the rest of your life. There was an 'outbreak' of it during the 50s, because of that, everyone that got it back then isn't effected now. Of course there are a few people who didn't get it back then and are getting it now, but thats just the way it works.
I wish you luck, the media FUD that has made everyone paranoid and falsely inflated the statistics and people drive to get the vaccine is screwing you.
Unfortunately, whats going to happen is they'll just find a couple cases where the vaccine 'didn't work' and so it'll be a whole new paranoia and they'll stop producing the current vaccine in favor of a new one.
Yes, the media needs new FUD to keep their ratings up, way to fall for the trap.
The CDC has, somewhere buried on its site that I found a month or so back some states about the mortality rates, sorry I'm not going to bother to find you a link but if you look hard enough google will for you.
Summary:
This strain of H1N1 seasonal a. AKA the swine flu:
Mortality rate of %0.05
The standard average over the last 50 years or so for the seasonal strains combined is %0.16
So last year, 3 times more people would have died from the flu last year than this year. Total deaths accounted to it will be higher, EVERYONE is reporting when they get the flu this year do to paranoia caused by media FUD. Most of these people die from complications with other illness. These people in past years wouldn't have been counted as flu deaths because the level of 'awareness' was far lower. People just didnt' think to account it to the flu directly.
True, but we're can pretty accurately say it. See the interesting thing about 'the swine flu' is that if you account for the media FUD skewing the numbers then it really ISN'T THAT DIFFERENT THAN EVERY OTHER YEAR.
Yes there are more reports this year, because 90% of the public who would have just 'had the flu' and kept going like they have every other year for the past several thousand, this year they stay home. They went to the doctor. They told their friends. They made others stay away from them and stayed home.
If you treat this like every other year, and account for the difference in numbers caused by media FUD, then they can make some pretty accurate predictions. The most important factor is that this particular strain of the flu is a 'get it once and don't get it ever again' kind of strain. In most seasons you will get infected more than once. You won't with this strain, which is why people born in the 50s or earlier have nothing to worry about. They've already had it and as STILL immune to it.
When you look at it that way, and take into account that by this point pretty much EVERYONE has got it, then its a safe bet that we've hit the peak, unless it suddenly mutates which would make it fall well outside the normal. Its possible but unlikely.
The media circus around it is the only reason anything happened this year different than last year.
Considering the amount of FUD spread by the media, the numbers for flu cases and deaths this year isn't really higher than normal. If everyone was as paranoid about the flu every year, we'd see pretty much the same thing.
Take a good look at the CDCs weekly states for this flu season, its really not that bad. The difference is everyone saying 'OMG I GOT SWINE FLUZ I'M GONNA DIE STAY AWAY AND SAVE YOURSELF!@$!@%!@#^!#@%'
Hard drives don't really get a lot of air circulation through them. They generally have a single hole in the case to allow for pressure equalization, and many have a spongy filter over them so the air exchange with the drive is very minor.
Fans are somewhat designed for it. Fans deal with everything in the air anyway, and have to keep dust out by design since they'll see the highest amount of it, so their design naturally reduces the amount of air that reaches the critical parts. With that said, fans around pets and smokers DO fail sooner on average in my experience.
Dogs seem to be as bad as cats in my house. The worst problem with 'build up' on fans and and heat sinks I saw was when we were holding onto the in-law's Parrot for several months.
Saw more build up in a month from a single bird on the other side of the house than the dogs who sleep about a foot away from the air intake on one PC over six months. Not that the dogs aren't bad, but god the bird was horrible. She also liked to bite me and thought she was the boss, but thats just part of being female I think.
I have several PCs in my home doing media center stuff, all my TVs get their signal from a PC. Anything sitting on the floor, near where pets are allowed (we have two dogs, one long hair, one short) is just disgusting inside and I clean them every 6 months or so to get the crap out of the fan.
The ones up higher, or in the closet stay relatively clean. They still get it worse than the PCs in our office where pets very rarely show up, but there is certainly major damage caused by pet dander and hair at home.
Biohazard is a bullshit exuse. Period. End of story. Put a mask on if you are so retarded as to think that you are somehow going to inhale enough to case an issue. You get more damage from the paint on the walls that leeches chemicals into the air of the repair room everyday than opening a computer up. The tar that collects the dust and ash HOLDS ON TO IT, thats why it collects, otherwise it would just pass through like all the other dust particles in the air.
Failure due to excessive tar and ash is fair in my mind, biohazard is not. Prove the tar and ash caused the failure, but don't pull some bullshit biohazard crap out of your ass.
Many people use computers in environments where dust is rampant. I see no reason to believe that a smoker should be considered an unsafe environment by default. Excessive, sure, but you also better reject everyone with excessive pet hair, dust in general and all the other crap that almost every household has in it.
As for smoking in a car, the miracle of modern technology is that we have chemicals now that can make the smoking in a car a non-issue. Its just an excuse to pay you less for a trade in. You trade in a car thats been smoked in, they treat it, put it on the lot and no one will notice. You'll notice an untreated car from a shitty dealer or a bad treatment, but good dealers have no problem getting rid of the smell. If you know how to do it, you can treat the car yourself and the dealer won't notice unless he/she is particularly attentive and notices the smell of the treatment, which smells nothing like anything you'd associate with a smoker. Hell, Fabreeze spread in the airconditioner/heater intakes while its running for a hour or two is enough to fool most dealers.
I don't believe any device has broke because of sweat alone. I've put my iPods and iPhones through hell, and since you probably notice the plural form of iPhones, I've broken a couple, my current one has a cracked display.
They've survived far more water than any normal sweating human being could have possibly got in the device unless you were intentionally collecting it and pouring it into the headphone jack.
I just don't buy it.
I'm more inclined to believe the notes about 'sweating into it' causing a problem being a polite way to call someone out on getting it wet without calling them a liar.
You're correct, smoke and tar is bad for most things. If it can be demonstrated to cause the failure, they don't have to repair it in my opinion.
You're also an idiot for the second-hand smoke statement. Stop puppeting back out what other idiots pushing an agenda through lies feed you. Get a clue, learn some facts, stop reading truth.com and repeating what Al Gore says.
However, Apple isn't repairing the machines claiming its an OSHA violation. The claim is that its unhealthy for the repair techs. That is bullshit. Computers are FILLED with hazardous components. Do you know how many things in the power supply alone can cause cancer? Apple is claiming that it would violate OSHA so they can't work on it. Its Apples problem to protect their employees from hazardous materials, not the customer.
The should have simply left the health hazard bullshit out of the reply emails and left it with the previously stated facts which were more than enough reason to not repair the machines. Ash and tar are bad for unprotected motherboards, clog heat sinks and gum up fans. Done. Those are true statements and given enough of them, a PC can fail. It can also fail from dust, pet hair, dead skin cells and all sorts of other stuff. IF there was enough in there to cause failure then fine don't repair it. Claiming an OSHA violation is bullshit. Its their responsibility to protect their employees. Its also their responsibility to produce hardware capable of withstanding a typical operating environment or lose customers for it.
If Apple told me they wouldn't repair my MBP because it was full of pet hair and it caused things to fail, I'd probably be okay with it. Of course, I'd take it apart myself to verify it, but then I'd have cleaned it out before I took it to them anyway. If they come back to me and claim its 'unsafe' then I'm going to have a problem.
When I first saw the headline I figured it was acceptable.
I figured that it was due to the fact that ash and tar build up are very good at causing all sorts of issues to a PC. That is undeniable if you've worked on any heavy smoker's PC if they smoke around it.
But no ...
They aren't servicing it because of a bullshit execuse like lung cancer for the repair tech? You've have got to fucking be kidding me. If they were actually concerned about what might be inhaled they'd already be using safe breathing procedures, A blown capacitor produces far more carcinigens than any residue left over from smoking.
The car they drove to work put out more pollution and dangerous chemicals before they left the driveway than inhaling second hand smoke from the mouth of a smoker.
I'm fine with safe working conditions, but this sort of shit is just ridiculous. I'm not a smoker, but I'm so sick and tired of this retarded sort of shit. I'm sick of those retarded jackasses that will start coughing and bitching about smoke when they are 30 feet upwind of a smoker. They can't even smell the shit.
I'm tired of the bullshit implication that second hand smoke is worse than first hand. I'm tired of the retarded 'education' done by uppity bitches pushing their agenda to stop smoking.
I'm about to start smoking just to blow smoke in the faces of these people.
Apple can refuse to repair machines for legitimate reasons, smoking included. 'The repairman is inhaling it' isn't a legitimate reason. If the units have ash and tar in them, they'll also have hair, skin cells, bacteria and fungus spores, from humans and pets, every chemical in the environment the unit has been in and all sorts of other shit. The tar and ash from smokers is the least of your concern, or at least it should be.
Refusing repair because the ash has stopped air from moving through a heatsink, fine. Tar build up has caused a fan to stop working or resulted in a short, fine. As long as you refuse repairs for all of these reasons unrelated to smoking so people stop buying your products when they realize you don't make them properly to handle everyday use.
They refused to service my iPhone. Only one of two detectors was slightly discolored. Actually they were going to replace it initially, but then I told them why it needed repaired.
I fell into a lake while fishing, and when I got out, much to my dismay, water literally POURED out of the headphone jack for several seconds.
I take my phone with me in the bathroom when I take a shower so I can browser porn^H^H^H^Hslashdot while the water warms up. This small bathroom is generally so filled with steam by the time the shower is over that the glass is beading water all over it. The detectors don't trigger.
If your litmus detector flags, in my experience, the device has been freaking drenched, regardless of the people posting online who have drown their devices and are trying to scam replacements.
Wow, way to exagerate beyond belief. You're also one of those people that coughs when someone outside, 30 feet away, downwind is smoking too, aren't you?
I don't smoke and I still hate this sort of ridiculous shit.
Safari != webkit, Chromium != Google Chrome. Sorry to burst your bubble.
Webkit is a rendering engine. Its pretty useless without supporting code. The link you gave links you to a loadable library essentially. The app icon you get for OSX actually runs a script that has Safari use the webkit library from the package, but the UI and everything else is still the same old Safari thats installed on the system.
If someone bothered to put the effort into it, you could stuff IE's renderer into Safari on Windows, or you could stuff Firefox's Gecko into Safari on Windows or Mac.
Chromium is not Chrome. They may share a common tree, but they aren't the same either. Chrome may be built from a snapshot of the chromium tree, but that doesn't give you nightlies of chrome.
So now we're down to ... Firefox is the only browser with Nightly builds.