I've had instances where a machine developed a problem and would only boot up into single user mode. Instances where vi wasn't available. (A few releases ago NetBSD always came up that way on the first boot after install; you had to go in and toggle a switch in your/etc/rc.conf file.)
I had to sweat it and reach for my printed manual set with the ed/ex tutorial in it.
ed really isn't that bad. It's similar but superior to edlin on MS-DOG.
On my NetBSD system, running on a Pentium Pro 180 with 128 megs of RAM, I might note, I was able to burn CDs at 10x, browse the Web using Mozilla, and simultaneously compile some largeish packages from source (I think it was the GIMP).
So, what's the deal, here? Is this all possible because I use FVWM2 and not bloat-WM-from-hecksville??
Linux compatability in the BSD os'es is usually provided simply because the binary-only commercial software vendors are more enamored with Linux and so they release their closed-wares only on Linux. So the BSD folks simply build a Linux emulation layer.
I wouldn't say that Linux fanboys should be so enthusiastic about the fact that closed-source vendors favor their OS. Particulary not fanboys who seem to be harping in defense of the GPL...
I had to dig back into the low mod comments you were replying to to determine that your comment wasn't about homosexuality being actively discouraged in China.
How could there have been that kind of rhetoric when the USSR launched sputnik? That was fourty years ago, and, ummm, the whole thrust of the 'rhetoric' you quoted is with regard to said fourty years.
Second, who says we're going to let you just flit off on an adventure? You are NOT an 'individual.' You're part of a biome, and you can pretend you can just up and leave, but that's your fantasy.
Change the channel once in awhile. You clearly watch too much Star Trek.
Not really, at least not in the way you're implying.
The native Americans were here, but they weren't forced into labor to construct our skyscrapers.
Also, many other countries and peoples were doing the same thing to indigenous populations within their reach at the same time the Americans were taking the land away from the native Americans.
To try to claim some moral equivalence for what the USSR did in the 30's and China did in the 50's and 60's is ludicrous.
Well, unless you're an audiophile, you're better off buying the K-Mart special headphones.
Not that price is what makes the difference. I prefer to think of the people who pay list price for those $300 headphones as 'stupid people.'
I'll buy the headphones used from them when the particular appearance of that model goes 'out of style' for maybe $60 in a few years. They get the brand-prestige. I get the high quality.
You can stick to your K-Mart heavy metal headphones. You can't tell the difference.
Actually, Netscape was the company who tried to 0wn the Internet. They introduced as many, if not more, proprietary extensions to HTML as any other entity. They wanted everybody using a Netscape client for free and every server needing to be an expensive Netscape Server.
From the start, when they stole the Mosaic developer team from UIUC, they were a bunch of venture capital swindlers.
If and when Microsoft 'loses' it would be a nice thing to be able to easily bring over all the.NET code being written. It would also be nice to be able to welcome aboard all the.NET expatriates fleeing the sinking ship. Yes, that's the optomistic take on it, but why can't we sometimes be optimistic?
If SCO is able to 'evaporate' Linux there are plenty of other Freenixes out there. Most of which don't have the particular vulnerability that SCO is waving at Linux (large companies under NDA to SCO interests who contribute to the Linux code base).
There are plenty of alternative platforms, and believe it, there would be plenty of resources to make the move to said platforms if Linux were crushed. (which it's not going to)
We're not really talking about kernal-level stuff here, or at least not regarding the 'big amount of code investment' part of the risk. The application code written in.Net/Mono rides at a higher layer than that.
Most of the systems running Windows 95 and Windows 3.1 aren't running services. They're also usually not 24/7 connected to the Internet and facing it in a way that malcontents or malware can capture and use the machine. So a monoculture of Windows 95 machines only poses a threat for peer-peer outbreaks, i.e. Outlook viruses, etc. Windows 3.1 machines are even less of a threat.
They're so completely different from the problem that broken Sendmail and BIND implementations represent, that I just have to ask:
It's kind of ironic, considering that many of us remember that Sun's witholding of a robust JVM for Linux was widely believed to be an effort on their part to kill Linux.
They weren't able to kill Linux, then eventually they rolled out a linux version.
An alternative version of history is that the dot.bomb era was caused by PHBs with MBA's listening to the 'geeks' too seriously. I'm not laying the blame on that, that was just what sparked the whirlwind. By the end it wasn't about 'geeks' or 'nerds' at all. But come on, if you were around, you might recall those early days, Mondo 2000, etc. before the bad clone called Wired came along... Pure geek idealism reined for quite awhile, the explosion came when opportunists got a sip too much of that kool-aide.
I bought a Tandy pocket computer a few years ago off eBay. It's a little newer than yours, I think it's a PS-5.
It's still got the same coin battery in it that it had when I bought it. Granted I haven't used it a huge lot, but I have used it some. I don't know how long it's battery was in the machine before I bought it, but it's sure lasted quite some time.
I once bought the CD-ROM drive out of the cash register at a computer store. It was back in about 1993 and I went into a small computer store that sold used hardware. I wanted a cheap CDROM drive. The guy running the store said 'the only one I have is installed here in the POS computer.' So he powered down the cash register, pulled out the 1x Mitsumi CDROM drive, and sold it to me for twenty bucks.
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Actually ed and ex are more ubiquitous.
/etc/rc.conf file.)
I've had instances where a machine developed a problem and would only boot up into single user mode. Instances where vi wasn't available. (A few releases ago NetBSD always came up that way on the first boot after install; you had to go in and toggle a switch in your
I had to sweat it and reach for my printed manual set with the ed/ex tutorial in it.
ed really isn't that bad. It's similar but superior to edlin on MS-DOG.
On my NetBSD system, running on a Pentium Pro 180 with 128 megs of RAM , I might note, I was able to burn CDs at 10x, browse the Web using Mozilla, and simultaneously compile some largeish packages from source (I think it was the GIMP).
So, what's the deal, here? Is this all possible because I use FVWM2 and not bloat-WM-from-hecksville??
Linux compatability in the BSD os'es is usually provided simply because the binary-only commercial software vendors are more enamored with Linux and so they release their closed-wares only on Linux. So the BSD folks simply build a Linux emulation layer.
I wouldn't say that Linux fanboys should be so enthusiastic about the fact that closed-source vendors favor their OS. Particulary not fanboys who seem to be harping in defense of the GPL...
Should I just switch over to MacOS X or Linux if I want a current Java runtime?
'Switch over' from what? It's clear that you're not presently using FreeBSD because you're asking such lame questions about it.
I imagine it's running the Darwin core, not all the flouncy bits on top.
But, then, I haven't been getting the faxes from Apple Marketing so I can't say for sure.
I had to dig back into the low mod comments you were replying to to determine that your comment wasn't about homosexuality being actively discouraged in China.
Oh well.
Drop a bomb to the surface?
Why would you bother to do that? You go into LEO and fuck with all the satellites of your enemy.
Whoops. What happened to the battlefield GPS???
I hear him speaking live on the radio last week. On some NPR program. I didn't learn until he was done with his piece that it was actually Katz.
He's apparently moved on to greener pastures.
How could there have been that kind of rhetoric when the USSR launched sputnik? That was fourty years ago, and, ummm, the whole thrust of the 'rhetoric' you quoted is with regard to said fourty years.
First, 'this rock' is a misnomer.
Second, who says we're going to let you just flit off on an adventure? You are NOT an 'individual.' You're part of a biome, and you can pretend you can just up and leave, but that's your fantasy.
Change the channel once in awhile. You clearly watch too much Star Trek.
Not really, at least not in the way you're implying.
The native Americans were here, but they weren't forced into labor to construct our skyscrapers.
Also, many other countries and peoples were doing the same thing to indigenous populations within their reach at the same time the Americans were taking the land away from the native Americans.
To try to claim some moral equivalence for what the USSR did in the 30's and China did in the 50's and 60's is ludicrous.
Furthermore, two wrongs don't make a right.
I have read that the dog they sent up survived for a significantly shorter amount of time than the Soviets claimed.
What does this have to do with online rights?
What does it have to do with anything Nerds are interested in?
It seems more like a topic for a civil libertarian blog.
I'm not saying the government is right or wrong. I'm just asserting this is off topic. Michael, can't you find another website to pound your drums on?
Well, unless you're an audiophile, you're better off buying the K-Mart special headphones.
Not that price is what makes the difference. I prefer to think of the people who pay list price for those $300 headphones as 'stupid people.'
I'll buy the headphones used from them when the particular appearance of that model goes 'out of style' for maybe $60 in a few years. They get the brand-prestige. I get the high quality.
You can stick to your K-Mart heavy metal headphones. You can't tell the difference.
Yes. It's sort of like mp3. They compress the hell out of the thing so the 'rubes' who just want something kinda pretty can download it faster.
Well, yeah. Just like any other mail account you get on a server not directly associated with your ISP account.
Who would have thought something so new and exciting could come to be?!!??
Actually, Netscape was the company who tried to 0wn the Internet. They introduced as many, if not more, proprietary extensions to HTML as any other entity. They wanted everybody using a Netscape client for free and every server needing to be an expensive Netscape Server.
From the start, when they stole the Mosaic developer team from UIUC, they were a bunch of venture capital swindlers.
If and when Microsoft 'loses' it would be a nice thing to be able to easily bring over all the .NET code being written. It would also be nice to be able to welcome aboard all the .NET expatriates fleeing the sinking ship. Yes, that's the optomistic take on it, but why can't we sometimes be optimistic?
If SCO is able to 'evaporate' Linux there are plenty of other Freenixes out there. Most of which don't have the particular vulnerability that SCO is waving at Linux (large companies under NDA to SCO interests who contribute to the Linux code base).
.Net/Mono rides at a higher layer than that.
There are plenty of alternative platforms, and believe it, there would be plenty of resources to make the move to said platforms if Linux were crushed. (which it's not going to)
We're not really talking about kernal-level stuff here, or at least not regarding the 'big amount of code investment' part of the risk. The application code written in
Most of the systems running Windows 95 and Windows 3.1 aren't running services. They're also usually not 24/7 connected to the Internet and facing it in a way that malcontents or malware can capture and use the machine. So a monoculture of Windows 95 machines only poses a threat for peer-peer outbreaks, i.e. Outlook viruses, etc. Windows 3.1 machines are even less of a threat.
They're so completely different from the problem that broken Sendmail and BIND implementations represent, that I just have to ask:
So what was your point?
It's kind of ironic, considering that many of us remember that Sun's witholding of a robust JVM for Linux was widely believed to be an effort on their part to kill Linux.
They weren't able to kill Linux, then eventually they rolled out a linux version.
An alternative version of history is that the dot.bomb era was caused by PHBs with MBA's listening to the 'geeks' too seriously. I'm not laying the blame on that, that was just what sparked the whirlwind. By the end it wasn't about 'geeks' or 'nerds' at all. But come on, if you were around, you might recall those early days, Mondo 2000, etc. before the bad clone called Wired came along... Pure geek idealism reined for quite awhile, the explosion came when opportunists got a sip too much of that kool-aide.
Take a look on eBay sometime. "Vintage" is a synonym for 'old junk' there.
I bought a Tandy pocket computer a few years ago off eBay. It's a little newer than yours, I think it's a PS-5.
It's still got the same coin battery in it that it had when I bought it. Granted I haven't used it a huge lot, but I have used it some. I don't know how long it's battery was in the machine before I bought it, but it's sure lasted quite some time.
I once bought the CD-ROM drive out of the cash register at a computer store. It was back in about 1993 and I went into a small computer store that sold used hardware. I wanted a cheap CDROM drive. The guy running the store said 'the only one I have is installed here in the POS computer.' So he powered down the cash register, pulled out the 1x Mitsumi CDROM drive, and sold it to me for twenty bucks.