Add to it the cost of specialized training and equipment (for an aluminum-body repair shop: $200,000) or even the cost of new parts alone (xenon high-intensity-discharge headlights: $3,000 each), not to mention the knowledge base required (over 1 million pages, available only electronically vs. 100 pages 20 years ago) and a labor shortage.
1) Xenon HID systems do not cost $3k per bulb. Maybe for a Mercedes SLK 600, but every part on that sort of automobile is pricey for the simple fact that not many are sold, plus you have to add in the fact that many luxury car owners feel like they MUST spend thousands of dollars simple components because they feel a sense of quality with the expenditure.
2) 100 pages? I have a stack of books for cars ranging from 1969 to 1998. The repair manual for a 65 VW Beetle is approx 1200 pages alone. The one for the 69 Corvette is 980 pages. Are we comparing 1/10th of a manual from the old days to the vast archive of information available today? The one for my 98 Volvo is 1100 pages, but it does not cover the "propritary" information such as how to decode OBD signals and turn them into readable codes.
3) Labor Shortage?? Riight. Why are there very few mechanic jobs posted in my local paper? There are about 20x the number of open IT positions compared to mechanical repair.
/born to be a mechanic, forced into IT due to a lack of jobs/income associated with auto/commercial truck repair.
This IPO speculation is the only reason the media is giving Google so much attention over Gmail and every other little move they make.
I give it 6 months before/. people quit looking up to Google as some really leet organization. As soon as the IPO is launched, the people who made sure it got the media coverage will get richer and Google will, in effect, lose it's soul.
I'm not sure what the facsination is with companies and their going public. Sure, we would all like to have a little chunk of something cool, but you have to remember there are going to be much more powerful people who will cut corners and make Google the most efficient, productive company they can. The result: an uncaring attitude towards the technologies and efforts that previously went into building the company.
It happens every time. Just give it a while. For instance, the ISP I used to work for employed a number of really good, well known people in the Open Source movement. They were weeded out in an effort to move towards efficiency; or in other words: they were replaced by people fresh out of school that would write so-so code for $50k/year.
Unfortunately, I don't think Fox or any major media outlet is going to make a big deal out of big business practice when it comes to the little guy.
Walmart has been breaking the bank on Georgia's medicare system for almost 10 years. We only hear a week before it bankrupts that Walmart was the biggest contributor to it's demise. Did anything change? Nope. Will it? Nope. Big business controls the media treadmill to a great extent. Especially publically held companies where suits in said media company own a large number of shares, personally held or held by the organization.
The only coverage I have seen on any of the media treadmills has been relatively positive when covering DirecTV's efforts. I see no reason for it to be otherwise, considering such coverage can affect attitudes when it's time for CNN and Fox to renegociate contracts with DTV.
Just look at how aggresively Dish was censoring captions on Comedy Central (and other stations) when they broadcast the captions warning the channels would no longer be broadcast if Dish did not work with them. Black boxing the text to avoid their customers even having knowledge of the failed negociations.
This is also civil court, depending on the judge, a simple credit card transaction for a smart card programmer may be enough to win a decision for them.
Exactly what would be the basis of your counter claim? Perhaps you should go do some reading about this stuff before you end up having an example made out of you.
Even if they didn't manage to win against you, all they need to do is show the document "If you sue me, I will sue you for 10X!" and your goose is cooked. It's likely the judge will just say "Sir, you can't sue someone just because they sue you." and throw it out. Even if it didn't come to that, simply showing the court your letter would demonstrate that you have a combative character and may be trying to hide something.
It appears to have made the typical rounds in the media according to number of news articles posted in the past 30 days out of around 4,000 sources:
Results 1 - 100 of about 6,120 for google. Results 1 - 100 of about 1,360 for gmail. Results 1 - 100 of about 1,480 for rush limbaugh. Results 1 - 100 of about 2,350 for howard stern.
If you have not noticed, it's on the Fox and CNN treadmill, too. This is getting huge coverage and we know Gmail won't be blocked, it can't be undone unless nobody wants it. I'm guessing one of the big boys over at Clear Channel owns a lot of Google stock and hatched controversy that turns out to have a hunky dory ending that leaves Google with free advertising of epic proportions. Not to sound like an angry teenager, but things like this don't get that much coverage unless there is some dark forces behind it.
Anyway, it'll be here when it gets here. You set yourself up for disappointment when you get all frothy over it before it's release. I cite one example that should reverse a few people moderating my previous post as a flame: Episode 1
Look people, gmail has not even started yet. All this you see is nothing but hype to get attention for Google.
Please/. crowd, don't be media sheep. It's just another mail service. There is no need for getting riled up over all these things the media says you need to get riled up over. Got it?
Don't bother tearing into this post, I could care less what you think.:)
Agreed. I don't understand why/. ignores things like this until the company that owns the code takes it down for some reason.
You have to ask yourselves a few questions before taking this thread too serious:
1) If it was Windows only, would you care? 2) Did anyone bother asking Sony why they did it before making assumptions? 3) If/. had not posted a headline on it, would you have gone the rest of your natural life with something missing?
I can safely assume the answer to all these is a big "No". Lately,/. has tried to stir up more trouble than Howard Stern with a Republican in office.
Yeah. That article is dated. The era of the geek has passed. I have noticed a steady decline in the acceptance of having a geeky job when meeting new women or chit chatting with people I meet. I used to get responses like "Wow, you must be smart!" or "Niiiice". Nowadays, "Oh, ok.".
If geeks are inheriting anything, at least in the USA, it is probably an unemployment check.
The simple fact is, too many people started getting into PC's for anyone who builds their life around them just sounds like a loser to the average person who went to college for a more tangible industry.
I'm a geek being retrained to operate in the new, modern world.
PS - Nice comment on the globalization of thought. I notice this a lot with the geo-caching and other silly things covered on slashdot that hardly anyone, besides Neal, cares about. It all reminds me of the goth kids in high school worshipping their head goth and doing whatever he thinks is cool, because he was the ultra-cool.:)
I agree with the parent, though he was modded as a troll. It's silly to see mods wasting mod points on negating posts instead of bringing the good ones into the forthfront. Those are bigger scumbags than the trolls, imo, as they detract from/. instead of contribute. Anyway, where is the rule on/. that says you must mod as a troll for not posting a complete thought with a wordy explanation? There is none. Guess what? When I meta moderate, I catch these and contribute to these people not getting further points to waste./rant
I had two Iomega drives, both failed in relatively short amounts of time. Several of my coworkers had them, too, for hauling mp3's back and forth to work. Everyone complained of bad discs and read errors.
One of my broken ones was eventually stolen (ha for them) and I sat the remaining one up on the parking deck and laid a big drag while running it over. It shot 30' to hit a concrete wall and broke into many small pieces. A shitty end to a shitty device.
einstein, I would suggest checking with your local city or county office before giving too much thought to your plan.
Considering you are downstream of a hydro-electric dam, it is likely the power company or the county has some kind of easement on the water way. I don't know how kindly they would take to someone building a structure on their property.
I would take you more seriously if you weren't so anal about commonly switched words in english. It's not like we are writing laws here.
Now, go on to the next mp3 related forum, press control+f, type "steal" and go post the same message in reply to every comment you find containing that word. Troll.
That is what I figure, too. I imagined a batch of gold female 1/8th inch jacks arriving at the assembly plant and being slightly out of spec, but nobody noticing, thus producing a lot of crappy ipods.
I have had a mini since release day. I jog, bike, work, and shop with it daily. Transitioning it from the car stereo, to my hip, and to my surround system all the time and have not had static problems yet. Hopefully, if it breaks it'll break while in warranty.
I'm still waiting for nice gel skins to come out so I don't scratch up the case and display.:/
Suggestion? Don't break the law, stupid.
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Suggestion: make good CDs, and maybe I'll buy the whole thing.
Bruha needs to get off his little soap box and realize the world isn't all about him. If you don't like the prices, don't buy. That does not give you license to steal the property of others.
I know, I know.. It's so unpopular on/. to suggest actually following the law. The admins see some inciteful dribble from some psycho flannel wearing nerdboy and post it as a headline like it's some late breaking issue; followed by 1000 posts from dumb people who either can't think for themselves or are trolling to get karma. What gets accomplished? Not much except a few geeks get a warm feeling down there while justifying piracy.
Just because it's popular, does not make it cool. For example: Brittany Spears
To me the authors are vandals not revolutionaries, and may have ensured WMA becomes the standard."
Goomba99, you are a petty man. Instead of whining to the world about WMA being a standard, why don't you go write your own open source application to do this?
There is nothing I hate more than to see shit-stick teenagers with no skills of their own bashing on other people's work when they have contributed NOTHING to the scene.
Go learn to code and stop being a canker sore to those who actually do something for the community.
So when you swerve to miss the idiot ahead of you who's wrecking due to his smart car BSODing, your car will automatically adjust the steering so you plow head on into him. Where do I sign up?
Yeah, reminds me of the "New cars are garbage, that's why I drive a 1974 station wagon." arguement I've heard from countless teenagers and poor people.
I am sure people like to dream about new fancy things causing catastropes; but keep in mind that your airbags, fuel system, transmission, and braking systems are all computer controlled if you have a car worth driving.
Ever think about how much computing power the auto companies throw at silmulations for on board car computers? Let's just say that NASA could learn something from them.
I remember reading about that way back when waiting for the US debut of the system. I still chuckle at that particular article because he wants it to be a Saturn so bad that he uses a standard power connecting component used in thousands of electronic applications, though a different one, to mention how it's design is similar. All I could think was "Yes, they both use AC power, too." as another benchmark in comparing similarities in the Saturn and the DC designs.:)
Great. This sounds like something the Geocaching nerds would enjoy dressing up in before going on another important mission where you find balls of cat poop in tupperware containers strategically placed all over North Georgia.
That's what you get for having a sport where you do such exciting things as go to a predefined location and sign a book. "Woooo, GPS go beep!"
If it's over 6 feet 6 inches, a sign on the back wall says you're out of luck. Anything over 5,500 pounds doesn't work either, to the dismay of one Grand Parc resident with a hefty Volvo SUV.
The biggest Volvo SUV in production is the XC90. It stands 5.7' in height and weighs in at 4,493lbs. It's width is not any different than what you would find on any passenger car (~74").
This is not considered a "hefty" SUV. It's lighter and smaller than my old Volvo wagon. It's actually kind of dinky when compared to most SUV's these days.
*yawn* The same old discussion, with no implementation in sight. ... Meanwhile, being sarcastic and making witty remarks about the lack of progress does so much for the cause.
No it is not. While being a geek and enjoying your gadgets is all good, it is just silly to go to some specific place to find a little note telling you to go to some other place.
I could understand why it was the new, leet thing to do when handheld GPS first came around, but come on, you have to be pretty ignorant to still be feeling the novelty here.
Maybe I should start shitting in bags and leaving them in the little geocaching stashes. I bet that would make you think twice before doing it again. The mere idea of someone going on a quest to find my terds does sound very entertaining. BBL, going to find some geocaches around my area.
I trolled them in all capitol letters for about 5 minutes. Finally, I told the guy I was trolling and he was a really good sport about it. I suspect he started to wonder about my sincerity when I responded to a firewall question and said we have one on both sides of our shop.
Apparently the/. troll-mongers are keeping them quite busy today.:)
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1) Xenon HID systems do not cost $3k per bulb. Maybe for a Mercedes SLK 600, but every part on that sort of automobile is pricey for the simple fact that not many are sold, plus you have to add in the fact that many luxury car owners feel like they MUST spend thousands of dollars simple components because they feel a sense of quality with the expenditure.
2) 100 pages? I have a stack of books for cars ranging from 1969 to 1998. The repair manual for a 65 VW Beetle is approx 1200 pages alone. The one for the 69 Corvette is 980 pages. Are we comparing 1/10th of a manual from the old days to the vast archive of information available today? The one for my 98 Volvo is 1100 pages, but it does not cover the "propritary" information such as how to decode OBD signals and turn them into readable codes.
3) Labor Shortage?? Riight. Why are there very few mechanic jobs posted in my local paper? There are about 20x the number of open IT positions compared to mechanical repair.
/born to be a mechanic, forced into IT due to a lack of jobs/income associated with auto/commercial truck repair.
This IPO speculation is the only reason the media is giving Google so much attention over Gmail and every other little move they make.
/. people quit looking up to Google as some really leet organization. As soon as the IPO is launched, the people who made sure it got the media coverage will get richer and Google will, in effect, lose it's soul.
I give it 6 months before
I'm not sure what the facsination is with companies and their going public. Sure, we would all like to have a little chunk of something cool, but you have to remember there are going to be much more powerful people who will cut corners and make Google the most efficient, productive company they can. The result: an uncaring attitude towards the technologies and efforts that previously went into building the company.
It happens every time. Just give it a while. For instance, the ISP I used to work for employed a number of really good, well known people in the Open Source movement. They were weeded out in an effort to move towards efficiency; or in other words: they were replaced by people fresh out of school that would write so-so code for $50k/year.
Unfortunately, I don't think Fox or any major media outlet is going to make a big deal out of big business practice when it comes to the little guy.
Walmart has been breaking the bank on Georgia's medicare system for almost 10 years. We only hear a week before it bankrupts that Walmart was the biggest contributor to it's demise. Did anything change? Nope. Will it? Nope. Big business controls the media treadmill to a great extent. Especially publically held companies where suits in said media company own a large number of shares, personally held or held by the organization.
The only coverage I have seen on any of the media treadmills has been relatively positive when covering DirecTV's efforts. I see no reason for it to be otherwise, considering such coverage can affect attitudes when it's time for CNN and Fox to renegociate contracts with DTV.
Just look at how aggresively Dish was censoring captions on Comedy Central (and other stations) when they broadcast the captions warning the channels would no longer be broadcast if Dish did not work with them. Black boxing the text to avoid their customers even having knowledge of the failed negociations.
This is also civil court, depending on the judge, a simple credit card transaction for a smart card programmer may be enough to win a decision for them.
Exactly what would be the basis of your counter claim? Perhaps you should go do some reading about this stuff before you end up having an example made out of you.
Even if they didn't manage to win against you, all they need to do is show the document "If you sue me, I will sue you for 10X!" and your goose is cooked. It's likely the judge will just say "Sir, you can't sue someone just because they sue you." and throw it out. Even if it didn't come to that, simply showing the court your letter would demonstrate that you have a combative character and may be trying to hide something.
It appears to have made the typical rounds in the media according to number of news articles posted in the past 30 days out of around 4,000 sources:
Results 1 - 100 of about 6,120 for google.
Results 1 - 100 of about 1,360 for gmail.
Results 1 - 100 of about 1,480 for rush limbaugh.
Results 1 - 100 of about 2,350 for howard stern.
If you have not noticed, it's on the Fox and CNN treadmill, too. This is getting huge coverage and we know Gmail won't be blocked, it can't be undone unless nobody wants it. I'm guessing one of the big boys over at Clear Channel owns a lot of Google stock and hatched controversy that turns out to have a hunky dory ending that leaves Google with free advertising of epic proportions. Not to sound like an angry teenager, but things like this don't get that much coverage unless there is some dark forces behind it.
Anyway, it'll be here when it gets here. You set yourself up for disappointment when you get all frothy over it before it's release. I cite one example that should reverse a few people moderating my previous post as a flame: Episode 1
Look people, gmail has not even started yet. All this you see is nothing but hype to get attention for Google.
/. crowd, don't be media sheep. It's just another mail service. There is no need for getting riled up over all these things the media says you need to get riled up over. Got it?
:)
Please
Don't bother tearing into this post, I could care less what you think.
I listen to music at home and on the go with my ipod. I have yet to set it to play random tracks.
Then again, I do not listen to 120bpm, mindless, crap-pop top 40 music.
Agreed. I don't understand why /. ignores things like this until the company that owns the code takes it down for some reason.
/. had not posted a headline on it, would you have gone the rest of your natural life with something missing?
/. has tried to stir up more trouble than Howard Stern with a Republican in office.
You have to ask yourselves a few questions before taking this thread too serious:
1) If it was Windows only, would you care?
2) Did anyone bother asking Sony why they did it before making assumptions?
3) If
I can safely assume the answer to all these is a big "No". Lately,
Move along, nothing to see here.. No really.
Yeah. That article is dated. The era of the geek has passed. I have noticed a steady decline in the acceptance of having a geeky job when meeting new women or chit chatting with people I meet. I used to get responses like "Wow, you must be smart!" or "Niiiice". Nowadays, "Oh, ok.".
:)
If geeks are inheriting anything, at least in the USA, it is probably an unemployment check.
The simple fact is, too many people started getting into PC's for anyone who builds their life around them just sounds like a loser to the average person who went to college for a more tangible industry.
I'm a geek being retrained to operate in the new, modern world.
PS - Nice comment on the globalization of thought. I notice this a lot with the geo-caching and other silly things covered on slashdot that hardly anyone, besides Neal, cares about. It all reminds me of the goth kids in high school worshipping their head goth and doing whatever he thinks is cool, because he was the ultra-cool.
I agree with the parent, though he was modded as a troll. It's silly to see mods wasting mod points on negating posts instead of bringing the good ones into the forthfront. Those are bigger scumbags than the trolls, imo, as they detract from /. instead of contribute. Anyway, where is the rule on /. that says you must mod as a troll for not posting a complete thought with a wordy explanation? There is none. Guess what? When I meta moderate, I catch these and contribute to these people not getting further points to waste. /rant
I had two Iomega drives, both failed in relatively short amounts of time. Several of my coworkers had them, too, for hauling mp3's back and forth to work. Everyone complained of bad discs and read errors.
One of my broken ones was eventually stolen (ha for them) and I sat the remaining one up on the parking deck and laid a big drag while running it over. It shot 30' to hit a concrete wall and broke into many small pieces. A shitty end to a shitty device.
einstein, I would suggest checking with your local city or county office before giving too much thought to your plan.
Considering you are downstream of a hydro-electric dam, it is likely the power company or the county has some kind of easement on the water way. I don't know how kindly they would take to someone building a structure on their property.
I would take you more seriously if you weren't so anal about commonly switched words in english. It's not like we are writing laws here.
Now, go on to the next mp3 related forum, press control+f, type "steal" and go post the same message in reply to every comment you find containing that word. Troll.
That is what I figure, too. I imagined a batch of gold female 1/8th inch jacks arriving at the assembly plant and being slightly out of spec, but nobody noticing, thus producing a lot of crappy ipods.
:/
I have had a mini since release day. I jog, bike, work, and shop with it daily. Transitioning it from the car stereo, to my hip, and to my surround system all the time and have not had static problems yet. Hopefully, if it breaks it'll break while in warranty.
I'm still waiting for nice gel skins to come out so I don't scratch up the case and display.
Suggestion: make good CDs, and maybe I'll buy the whole thing.
/. to suggest actually following the law. The admins see some inciteful dribble from some psycho flannel wearing nerdboy and post it as a headline like it's some late breaking issue; followed by 1000 posts from dumb people who either can't think for themselves or are trolling to get karma. What gets accomplished? Not much except a few geeks get a warm feeling down there while justifying piracy.
Bruha needs to get off his little soap box and realize the world isn't all about him. If you don't like the prices, don't buy. That does not give you license to steal the property of others.
I know, I know.. It's so unpopular on
Just because it's popular, does not make it cool. For example: Brittany Spears
To me the authors are vandals not revolutionaries, and may have ensured WMA becomes the standard."
Goomba99, you are a petty man. Instead of whining to the world about WMA being a standard, why don't you go write your own open source application to do this?
There is nothing I hate more than to see shit-stick teenagers with no skills of their own bashing on other people's work when they have contributed NOTHING to the scene.
Go learn to code and stop being a canker sore to those who actually do something for the community.
So when you swerve to miss the idiot ahead of you who's wrecking due to his smart car BSODing, your car will automatically adjust the steering so you plow head on into him. Where do I sign up?
Yeah, reminds me of the "New cars are garbage, that's why I drive a 1974 station wagon." arguement I've heard from countless teenagers and poor people.
I am sure people like to dream about new fancy things causing catastropes; but keep in mind that your airbags, fuel system, transmission, and braking systems are all computer controlled if you have a car worth driving.
Ever think about how much computing power the auto companies throw at silmulations for on board car computers? Let's just say that NASA could learn something from them.
I remember reading about that way back when waiting for the US debut of the system. I still chuckle at that particular article because he wants it to be a Saturn so bad that he uses a standard power connecting component used in thousands of electronic applications, though a different one, to mention how it's design is similar. All I could think was "Yes, they both use AC power, too." as another benchmark in comparing similarities in the Saturn and the DC designs. :)
So this statement from Gates only really applies unless you are using something other than OS X, Linux, IRIX, Solaris, BSD, etc.... :-)
Which is 90% of us, so get over yourself. OS snobbery is obnoxious.
He's just bitter because he hasn't been able to get out and go Geo-caching for a few days.
Here's a non-account link to the article. Robo-Cars Make Cruise Control So Last Century.
/. editors had the balls to post those in the main article links. Is there any reason why they do not?
I sure wish
Great. This sounds like something the Geocaching nerds would enjoy dressing up in before going on another important mission where you find balls of cat poop in tupperware containers strategically placed all over North Georgia.
That's what you get for having a sport where you do such exciting things as go to a predefined location and sign a book. "Woooo, GPS go beep!"
Don't forget to sign the log.
If it's over 6 feet 6 inches, a sign on the back wall says you're out of luck. Anything over 5,500 pounds doesn't work either, to the dismay of one Grand Parc resident with a hefty Volvo SUV.
The biggest Volvo SUV in production is the XC90. It stands 5.7' in height and weighs in at 4,493lbs. It's width is not any different than what you would find on any passenger car (~74").
This is not considered a "hefty" SUV. It's lighter and smaller than my old Volvo wagon. It's actually kind of dinky when compared to most SUV's these days.
*yawn* The same old discussion, with no implementation in sight. ... Meanwhile, being sarcastic and making witty remarks about the lack of progress does so much for the cause.
One more reason why geocaching is so much fun.
No it is not. While being a geek and enjoying your gadgets is all good, it is just silly to go to some specific place to find a little note telling you to go to some other place.
I could understand why it was the new, leet thing to do when handheld GPS first came around, but come on, you have to be pretty ignorant to still be feeling the novelty here.
Maybe I should start shitting in bags and leaving them in the little geocaching stashes. I bet that would make you think twice before doing it again. The mere idea of someone going on a quest to find my terds does sound very entertaining. BBL, going to find some geocaches around my area.
China!
I trolled them in all capitol letters for about 5 minutes. Finally, I told the guy I was trolling and he was a really good sport about it. I suspect he started to wonder about my sincerity when I responded to a firewall question and said we have one on both sides of our shop.
/. troll-mongers are keeping them quite busy today. :)
Apparently the