Today of course, any male adult is considered bad to be around.
I held back from mentioning this... the part how you can be a 7 year old and just go spend an afternoon with some adult male without it being any sort of problem whatsoever. These days it is so very hard to believe.
As an adult male who now tinkers on stuff in the garage, I make it a point to shut the door to avoid any sort of 'trouble'.
"My grandfather's generation grew up with ham radios. He said all the kids used to do it."
Radio hams were the very first generation of electronics nerds. It's fascinating to look at the cultural history of hamdom 50 and 75 years ago to see what nerd of that time were like.
I wonder if there was any 'elitist attitude' then. I mean, human nature doesn't change so surely there were people talking down to noobz and scolding them with a "Go RTF AARL Handbook!". However, as a kid growing up in the 70s and 80s I remember walking down the street on a weekend and just about everyone was out tinkering on something in their garage. Ham Radios, go carts, hot rods, RC cars/planes, model rockets, model trains, etc. If you showed even the slightest bit of interest they'd invite you in and give you the grand tour of what they're doing and why. Sometimes they'd even send you home with books and magazines.
I don't know if it's because I was a little kid, or if maybe 'nerd types' were more inclusive then. Greatest Gens and Boomers were always warm and inviting, and it was my own generation (X) that seemed to start with the elitist crap. Millennials often seem to be carrying that same torch. Perhaps Nerddom is diseased now.
In the 1980s, the boys that were into math and science and (especially) computers were also getting their asses kicked on a regular basis by the popular kids Perhaps the girls were smart enough to not want any part of that.
Or at least they'd rather follow other interests than be associated with something or a group of people who were at the bottom of the social scale.
I have heard they are being strong-armed by Canonical. Canonical makes donations to Debian, that puts Canonical in a position to influence Debian.
Everybody knows that Gnome3 and Systemd suck. But the leading Linux distros are forcing that unwanted crap on users in a very Microsoft sort of way.
I am not that surprised by Red Hat, or Canonical, but I am disappointed in Debian.
I had wondered this too. I felt that the rapid adoption of systemd was very un-Debianlike. Not only because I would have never expected Debian to accept systemd based on technical merits, but also the incredible speed at which it happened. We all know how lonnnng it takes for Debian to even make decisions about changing things in the stable branch. Hell, there's a series of long-running jokes about it. But for the Debian team to just suddenly jump up and say "Yep, we're going with SystemD. End of discussion." seemed incredibly fishy to me.
Getting bullied by Canonical makes loads of sense, but I don't like it one bit.
I haven't included the "desktop system" or whatever dselect offers you in a Debian install since probably the turn of the century. I usually just install the minimum base system and apt-get the stuff I want, which resulted in wmaker up till about 2002, and XFCE since. I'm not saying this to sound l33t or anything, but I remember doing it this way all along to avoid installing Gnome.
When it comes to the Big Three (FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD) the complete system is precisely what this Venezia guy is describing. It is a working system with everything you'd need to run a legitimate server. Things like X, dev tools (excluding C compilers) etc are considered "3rd party add-ons". IME BSD systems are logical, intuitive, robust, light and fast. The other nice benefit is that everything is developed by the same team, and the documentation is superb.
Don't get me wrong, I love linux too. But the BSDs are sorely under-appreciated for what they are and can do.
That said, the base install of most of the original Linux distributions (or the base install plus a handful of packages) is also what sysadmins have been using for decades as a "server-oriented linux system".
All the contenders that didn't 'make the cut*' for the likes of Debian and recent converts to SystemD, namely Upstart and OpenRC... Why reinvent the wheel when the work is already half done?
Either way, I wish the project well. Though the name "Use Less D" or "Useless D" could have been better.
*I still don't see how SystemD is more ready for primetime than anything else (or sheesh, even sysvinit) but we've discussed that here already.
But one of the silliest things I've ever experienced when gaming online was a (probably teenaged) female telling me that she was sodomizing my mom with a strap-on. Over and over again. Or another telling me that if I was her kid she'd have aborted me with a crowbar.
Seriously. Instead of dicking with marketing firms and network-based rebuttal, how about jacking the rent up another $30 for each resident? $30 * 35K is over $1M dollars of guaranteed, no-bullshit, no-middleman profit. EVERY MONTH.
I'd love to sit down and have a beer with my adopted dogs. I'd like to hear their story, where they came from, what they've done in their lives and what they are thinking about now.
Even if their speech was on the level of a toddler or smaller child, I'd still love to hear it.
Google Groups has all but destroyed Usenet unfortunately.
That said, I still tolerate it when reading a few groups.
As for the grandparent poster- A bunch of musician friends and I got fed up with Harmony Central and created our own private, invite-only forum where we discuss music and gear and perpetuate our own memes.
I ordered from Mouser. It seems they have a default $6 shipping/handling minimum. I haven't ordered from Jameco for awhile but theirs was $8. I looked at Digikey but two of the cap types I needed were backordered and I didn't want to wait.
Not an appliance, but I just repaired my 19" Acer LCD a couple of weeks ago. It had a few bad caps so I replaced all of them, and now it's good as GNU^H^H^Hnew.
Total cost was around $5 in parts, though the bummer was $6 shipping. But what can you do? $11 is still cheaper than a new LCD.
The only thing I would ever want from a laptop is a keyboard that's in the ergonomic 'split' style. Yes that would be butt-ugly and probably make the laptop itself the size of an elementary school desk, but with RSI issues I can't type on a standard keyboard for very long. Yes you can plug a standard ergo USB keyboard into a laptop, but that setup requires a desk as it is too big for my lap. Since I'm desk bound with that, I just use the desktop computer I already have.
Meanwhile, I'm noticing that decent ergo kbs are getting scarce for desktops too. Back 10 or 15 years ago there were dozens of brands and all of them cheap and good, now there are only 2 or 3 to chose from with crappy key layouts and they last about a year or so.
It is neat, I'll give it that. However, we've been building pneumatic Lego 'engines' for decades. They are all over Youtube and other places. The sheer scale of this is impressive but I don't know that "genius" is the right word here.
With this business philosophy, one could have regional offices that collect this knowledge and store documents of it in little cannisters. When someone in one region needs to access the knowledge from a different region, they could send a request and have that cannister (with the relevant document inside) sent along a pneumatic piping system, just like at the bank teller window. One could call this business The National Tube Service, or simply The Tubes(tm).
On 12/12/12, the wheels were set in motion for the 12/21/12 Apocalypse.
A chain reaction of low-orbit and geostationary satellite collisions cause flaming satellite debris to rain down from the sky in a cataclysmic event. Now that Twinkies have been phased out, not even cockroaches have survived.
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Today of course, any male adult is considered bad to be around.
I held back from mentioning this... the part how you can be a 7 year old and just go spend an afternoon with some adult male without it being any sort of problem whatsoever. These days it is so very hard to believe.
As an adult male who now tinkers on stuff in the garage, I make it a point to shut the door to avoid any sort of 'trouble'.
"My grandfather's generation grew up with ham radios. He said all the kids used to do it."
Radio hams were the very first generation of electronics nerds. It's fascinating to look at the cultural history of hamdom 50 and 75 years ago to see what nerd of that time were like.
I wonder if there was any 'elitist attitude' then. I mean, human nature doesn't change so surely there were people talking down to noobz and scolding them with a "Go RTF AARL Handbook!". However, as a kid growing up in the 70s and 80s I remember walking down the street on a weekend and just about everyone was out tinkering on something in their garage. Ham Radios, go carts, hot rods, RC cars/planes, model rockets, model trains, etc. If you showed even the slightest bit of interest they'd invite you in and give you the grand tour of what they're doing and why. Sometimes they'd even send you home with books and magazines.
I don't know if it's because I was a little kid, or if maybe 'nerd types' were more inclusive then. Greatest Gens and Boomers were always warm and inviting, and it was my own generation (X) that seemed to start with the elitist crap. Millennials often seem to be carrying that same torch. Perhaps Nerddom is diseased now.
Why the Digital Equipment Corporation logo as the icon for this story (and other DIY stuff)?
Has /. gotten so young that nobody knows it means something more than just "digital", or has /. gotten so old that nobody remembers DEC?
2) actually wants to help you solve the problen
I believe you overestimate the dedication of a tech support drone at any level.
https://xkcd.com/806/
Funny how I have never seen anyone hate Apple computers who could afford one.
I could afford to replace every computer I own with a brand new Apple product, but they don't appeal to me in the least.
I thought this was "carpet matches the drapes".
All those folks going on about their wife's curtains and drapes has me confused. And possibly disturbed.
In the 1980s, the boys that were into math and science and (especially) computers were also getting their asses kicked on a regular basis by the popular kids Perhaps the girls were smart enough to not want any part of that.
Or at least they'd rather follow other interests than be associated with something or a group of people who were at the bottom of the social scale.
I have heard they are being strong-armed by Canonical. Canonical makes donations to Debian, that puts Canonical in a position to influence Debian.
Everybody knows that Gnome3 and Systemd suck. But the leading Linux distros are forcing that unwanted crap on users in a very Microsoft sort of way.
I am not that surprised by Red Hat, or Canonical, but I am disappointed in Debian.
I had wondered this too. I felt that the rapid adoption of systemd was very un-Debianlike. Not only because I would have never expected Debian to accept systemd based on technical merits, but also the incredible speed at which it happened. We all know how lonnnng it takes for Debian to even make decisions about changing things in the stable branch. Hell, there's a series of long-running jokes about it. But for the Debian team to just suddenly jump up and say "Yep, we're going with SystemD. End of discussion." seemed incredibly fishy to me.
Getting bullied by Canonical makes loads of sense, but I don't like it one bit.
I haven't included the "desktop system" or whatever dselect offers you in a Debian install since probably the turn of the century. I usually just install the minimum base system and apt-get the stuff I want, which resulted in wmaker up till about 2002, and XFCE since. I'm not saying this to sound l33t or anything, but I remember doing it this way all along to avoid installing Gnome.
What was Debian's default desktop before now?
When it comes to the Big Three (FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD) the complete system is precisely what this Venezia guy is describing. It is a working system with everything you'd need to run a legitimate server. Things like X, dev tools (excluding C compilers) etc are considered "3rd party add-ons". IME BSD systems are logical, intuitive, robust, light and fast. The other nice benefit is that everything is developed by the same team, and the documentation is superb.
Don't get me wrong, I love linux too. But the BSDs are sorely under-appreciated for what they are and can do.
That said, the base install of most of the original Linux distributions (or the base install plus a handful of packages) is also what sysadmins have been using for decades as a "server-oriented linux system".
All the contenders that didn't 'make the cut*' for the likes of Debian and recent converts to SystemD, namely Upstart and OpenRC... Why reinvent the wheel when the work is already half done?
Either way, I wish the project well. Though the name "Use Less D" or "Useless D" could have been better.
*I still don't see how SystemD is more ready for primetime than anything else (or sheesh, even sysvinit) but we've discussed that here already.
It does. Lots.
Ye gods I'm so tired of this 'joke' cropping up every so often. It wasn't really that funny 12 years ago, either.
But one of the silliest things I've ever experienced when gaming online was a (probably teenaged) female telling me that she was sodomizing my mom with a strap-on. Over and over again. Or another telling me that if I was her kid she'd have aborted me with a crowbar.
The Internet brings out the best in everyone!
I love that. Thanks for sharing!
Seriously. Instead of dicking with marketing firms and network-based rebuttal, how about jacking the rent up another $30 for each resident? $30 * 35K is over $1M dollars of guaranteed, no-bullshit, no-middleman profit. EVERY MONTH.
Whoohoo!
I'd love to sit down and have a beer with my adopted dogs. I'd like to hear their story, where they came from, what they've done in their lives and what they are thinking about now.
Even if their speech was on the level of a toddler or smaller child, I'd still love to hear it.
Google Groups has all but destroyed Usenet unfortunately.
That said, I still tolerate it when reading a few groups.
As for the grandparent poster- A bunch of musician friends and I got fed up with Harmony Central and created our own private, invite-only forum where we discuss music and gear and perpetuate our own memes.
I ordered from Mouser. It seems they have a default $6 shipping/handling minimum. I haven't ordered from Jameco for awhile but theirs was $8. I looked at Digikey but two of the cap types I needed were backordered and I didn't want to wait.
Not an appliance, but I just repaired my 19" Acer LCD a couple of weeks ago. It had a few bad caps so I replaced all of them, and now it's good as GNU^H^H^Hnew.
Total cost was around $5 in parts, though the bummer was $6 shipping. But what can you do? $11 is still cheaper than a new LCD.
The only thing I would ever want from a laptop is a keyboard that's in the ergonomic 'split' style. Yes that would be butt-ugly and probably make the laptop itself the size of an elementary school desk, but with RSI issues I can't type on a standard keyboard for very long. Yes you can plug a standard ergo USB keyboard into a laptop, but that setup requires a desk as it is too big for my lap. Since I'm desk bound with that, I just use the desktop computer I already have.
Meanwhile, I'm noticing that decent ergo kbs are getting scarce for desktops too. Back 10 or 15 years ago there were dozens of brands and all of them cheap and good, now there are only 2 or 3 to chose from with crappy key layouts and they last about a year or so.
It is neat, I'll give it that. However, we've been building pneumatic Lego 'engines' for decades. They are all over Youtube and other places. The sheer scale of this is impressive but I don't know that "genius" is the right word here.
With this business philosophy, one could have regional offices that collect this knowledge and store documents of it in little cannisters. When someone in one region needs to access the knowledge from a different region, they could send a request and have that cannister (with the relevant document inside) sent along a pneumatic piping system, just like at the bank teller window. One could call this business The National Tube Service, or simply The Tubes(tm).
On 12/12/12, the wheels were set in motion for the 12/21/12 Apocalypse.
A chain reaction of low-orbit and geostationary satellite collisions cause flaming satellite debris to rain down from the sky in a cataclysmic event. Now that Twinkies have been phased out, not even cockroaches have survived.