Not a nerdy thing ? Ever seen Ghost in the Shell or Akira ? How about Avalon (Not really an animation but Oshii's work) or Metropolis ? They are nerd's dream. Not to mention that they are from Japan, the land of electronics and... ELECTRONICS ! What's more geeky ?
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Recently we have been given the opportunity to take a look at one of the first S-ATA drives that is under development. The drive we received was a test model and will probably never ever reach the market. It was still intresting to see this new development and we took the opportunity to make some early tests. From our tests it seems that current available S-ATA controllers are not yet ready to be used with optical storage drives and we expect that this will improve when more S-ATA chipsets will be released.
S-ATA will be the follow up of the current ATAPI/IDE drives that have dominated the hard disk and optical storage market for years. The technology brings easier to attach and smaller cables, no more master/slave settings, theoretically more speed and hot swappability, meaning you can replace the drive will the computer is on.
The coming time we will probably see more releases of S-ATA drives but expectations are that large OEM orders from the likes of Dell and HP will speed up the process of the development in the end of 2004. Market expectations are that the entire market will be S-ATA in 2007, according to our sources. Check out our first look here. From the thread:
We came into posession of one of these "experimental" CDRW drives and thought it might be interesting to have a look at it and share our findings with the forum.
Our best information at this time is that this drive will not be released any time soon. It was under development for a large OEM customer of LiteOn, who decided they were not interested in the drive. So if LiteOn does release it, it will be probably sometime in 2005. LiteOn does not have any firm plans at present for any other SATA drives that we know of. As long as there are IDE ports on motherboards, there's not much demand for this drive.
So this drive is mainly just a novelty at this time. But it may give a clue or 2 about the direction we can expect CDRW to be headed.
The drive's model number seems to be similar to the recently announced SOHR-5238S which is slated to replace the revered 52327S burner. However we have other info that suggests the 52A8S may have a different chipset than the 5238S. Untill we can open up a 5238S and look inside, we cannot know. The first thing that becomes obvious with this drive is that SATA controllers do not like it. Our source of info tells us that it seems to work very well with chipset-based SATA controllers, and not very well with PCI-based controllers. I have an onboard SIL-3112 controller (PCI-based) and also a SIIG PCI SATA controller card (also SIL-3112 chip). The drive will run on both of these controllers, but there are deffinite problems with firmware flashing and Kprobe scanning. I was able to flash firmware on the SIIG card, but not on the onboard controller.
Kprobe causes the entire PCI bus to freeze up if you try to access the drive, not a pleasant experience. LTNFlash will read the firmware on either controller, but not write F/W except on the SIIG card. Whether these issues are due to drivers or BIOS on the controllers is anyone's guess.
Another observation about the SIIG controller:
Here's a reading curve at full speed on the SIIG card; What's interesting is that the drive did not actually slow down during this read, and the disc was a near-perfect CDR. So there appears to be some very strange bottleneck for data that is looking like a drive slow-down. Confirmed this oddity in DVDInfo:
also, I was getting very high CPU usage readings on the SIIG card, running upwards of 40% but only in CDSPeed, not on my system monitor. So, I decided to put the drive on the onboard controller and here's the result: (much better) Again, this is the exact same SATA chip, with slightly different BIOS. I tried a number of different versions of drivers on the controller, even the driver form the SIIG card, but could not resolve the issues with the LiteOn utilities.
I noted that on the OB controller, CPU usage is reported as normal, and burst rate measurement went from 8 on the SIIG card to 19 on the O
The fact is that I can go to any phone service provider in Poland and get a phone from $.25 to $15 with all the latest and greatest features like MP3 player, camera, etc. No need to pay $200 for a shitty phone that doesn't even play video.
Please enlighten me, what's so different between an iPod and Discman, MD player or a shitty RCA mp3 player from RadioShak ? We get all those articles about how iPod changes social relationships and such. Take the article about some people plugging their headphones into other people's iPods. What is so different about iPod that it deserves that much attention and an article ? I am sure many people did that before iPod, in the era of MD player and Discman. Now this article. What is the point here ? That iPod is somehow special and turns people into musicheads ? How is that different than me listening to $10 AM/FM radio on the bus ? Bullshit I say.
Common people, this is the most stupid thing I've heard since yesterday ("Wow, I bet this is this new Linux thing", "No, it is FreeBSD", "So... where can I get this FreeBSD linux ?"). If you don't even think about the first amendment and the such, how in the world would you implement that? Would a special force (NetForce ?) come to your house and check your license whenever they please? Or would there be a card reader connected to your PC? Would it run on Windows, Linux, *BSD, MacOS etc. (God forbid, it would only run on Windows) ? Lets suppose that such law would take effect. So what if you don't have a license? Taking in consideration that people who proposed such law are complete ignorant idiots, would they make it secure enugh ? Most likely not. Heck, I bet Windows would store your "Special" key in registry UNENCRYPED. Or you could clone someone else's card. Enough of this rubbish.
Well, if the company gets the FCC part 15 label thing (I don't think stuff like that does but...) they also can't create any harmful interference. What if they started to bleed the RF signal into a cordless phone (the old ones) or your iTrip spectrum ? Would want to live with that ?
I'm a HAM radio oprator. It bothers me that some pople don't see anyting wrong with creating interference on already allocated radio waves. What if the same companies started to interfere with WiFi bands ? How would you react ?
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I concur.
Not a nerdy thing ? Ever seen Ghost in the Shell or Akira ? How about Avalon (Not really an animation but Oshii's work) or Metropolis ? They are nerd's dream. Not to mention that they are from Japan, the land of electronics and ... ELECTRONICS ! What's more geeky ?
The disc could be badly balanced and that's why it would shake and such. It could have damadged the drive mechanism.
http://www.perl.com.nyud.net:8090/pub/a/2004/08/31 /livecode.html
Text from the article:
Recently we have been given the opportunity to take a look at one of the first S-ATA drives that is under development. The drive we received was a test model and will probably never ever reach the market. It was still intresting to see this new development and we took the opportunity to make some early tests. From our tests it seems that current available S-ATA controllers are not yet ready to be used with optical storage drives and we expect that this will improve when more S-ATA chipsets will be released. S-ATA will be the follow up of the current ATAPI/IDE drives that have dominated the hard disk and optical storage market for years. The technology brings easier to attach and smaller cables, no more master/slave settings, theoretically more speed and hot swappability, meaning you can replace the drive will the computer is on. The coming time we will probably see more releases of S-ATA drives but expectations are that large OEM orders from the likes of Dell and HP will speed up the process of the development in the end of 2004. Market expectations are that the entire market will be S-ATA in 2007, according to our sources. Check out our first look here.
From the thread:
We came into posession of one of these "experimental" CDRW drives and thought it might be interesting to have a look at it and share our findings with the forum. Our best information at this time is that this drive will not be released any time soon. It was under development for a large OEM customer of LiteOn, who decided they were not interested in the drive. So if LiteOn does release it, it will be probably sometime in 2005. LiteOn does not have any firm plans at present for any other SATA drives that we know of. As long as there are IDE ports on motherboards, there's not much demand for this drive. So this drive is mainly just a novelty at this time. But it may give a clue or 2 about the direction we can expect CDRW to be headed. The drive's model number seems to be similar to the recently announced SOHR-5238S which is slated to replace the revered 52327S burner. However we have other info that suggests the 52A8S may have a different chipset than the 5238S. Untill we can open up a 5238S and look inside, we cannot know. The first thing that becomes obvious with this drive is that SATA controllers do not like it. Our source of info tells us that it seems to work very well with chipset-based SATA controllers, and not very well with PCI-based controllers. I have an onboard SIL-3112 controller (PCI-based) and also a SIIG PCI SATA controller card (also SIL-3112 chip). The drive will run on both of these controllers, but there are deffinite problems with firmware flashing and Kprobe scanning. I was able to flash firmware on the SIIG card, but not on the onboard controller. Kprobe causes the entire PCI bus to freeze up if you try to access the drive, not a pleasant experience. LTNFlash will read the firmware on either controller, but not write F/W except on the SIIG card. Whether these issues are due to drivers or BIOS on the controllers is anyone's guess. Another observation about the SIIG controller: Here's a reading curve at full speed on the SIIG card; What's interesting is that the drive did not actually slow down during this read, and the disc was a near-perfect CDR. So there appears to be some very strange bottleneck for data that is looking like a drive slow-down. Confirmed this oddity in DVDInfo: also, I was getting very high CPU usage readings on the SIIG card, running upwards of 40% but only in CDSPeed, not on my system monitor. So, I decided to put the drive on the onboard controller and here's the result: (much better) Again, this is the exact same SATA chip, with slightly different BIOS. I tried a number of different versions of drivers on the controller, even the driver form the SIIG card, but could not resolve the issues with the LiteOn utilities. I noted that on the OB controller, CPU usage is reported as normal, and burst rate measurement went from 8 on the SIIG card to 19 on the O
The fact is that I can go to any phone service provider in Poland and get a phone from $.25 to $15 with all the latest and greatest features like MP3 player, camera, etc. No need to pay $200 for a shitty phone that doesn't even play video.
Would you like to not not format the hadr drive ?
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Different in a sense that people don't write about articles about Dell DJ or Panasonic CD/mp3 player and how it changes social behavior.
Please enlighten me, what's so different between an iPod and Discman, MD player or a shitty RCA mp3 player from RadioShak ? We get all those articles about how iPod changes social relationships and such. Take the article about some people plugging their headphones into other people's iPods. What is so different about iPod that it deserves that much attention and an article ? I am sure many people did that before iPod, in the era of MD player and Discman. Now this article. What is the point here ? That iPod is somehow special and turns people into musicheads ? How is that different than me listening to $10 AM/FM radio on the bus ? Bullshit I say.
Better late than never ^_^
You'll get a 'burn in' if you do. These TVs can't display static images for an extended period of time. Hence the warning ^_^
Common people, this is the most stupid thing I've heard since yesterday ("Wow, I bet this is this new Linux thing", "No, it is FreeBSD", "So... where can I get this FreeBSD linux ?"). If you don't even think about the first amendment and the such, how in the world would you implement that? Would a special force (NetForce ?) come to your house and check your license whenever they please? Or would there be a card reader connected to your PC? Would it run on Windows, Linux, *BSD, MacOS etc. (God forbid, it would only run on Windows) ? Lets suppose that such law would take effect. So what if you don't have a license? Taking in consideration that people who proposed such law are complete ignorant idiots, would they make it secure enugh ? Most likely not. Heck, I bet Windows would store your "Special" key in registry UNENCRYPED. Or you could clone someone else's card.
Enough of this rubbish.
Well, if the company gets the FCC part 15 label thing (I don't think stuff like that does but...) they also can't create any harmful interference. What if they started to bleed the RF signal into a cordless phone (the old ones) or your iTrip spectrum ? Would want to live with that ?
I'm a HAM radio oprator. It bothers me that some pople don't see anyting wrong with creating interference on already allocated radio waves. What if the same companies started to interfere with WiFi bands ? How would you react ?