When we bought our tv in dec the sales guy told us they were 100% and told us he just bought our 1400$ tv for ~700+tax the week prior, we were able to talk him down a bit after that slip up =) (we got 100 pulled off right there, then another 100 when the TV went down in price two weeks later.
Granted sales ppl are full of it, but i see no reason for him to lie about how much he just bought the same tv for with discount (he said his was cost + 10%). I take it with a grain of salt... im actually more inclined to belive your 10% then his 100%, so ill assume its really somewhere in between now;)
Some big name electronic stores have manager/salesperson quotas on how many extended warranties are sold, with the idea being that you slim your margins on an electronics item, and get it back on the warranty.... If the store is doing this for the customer's benefit, then they're most likely not going to bug you about it unless they can get something in return.
I also hate this kind of stuff, but its not really a fault of extendended warrenties, just higher ups making stupid rules because they have no clue how much its pissing off the consumer. So I do take a chance when I go without paying $50 on a $500 camera for 2 more years of warranty, but at the same time, when I use my CC to buy it, my warranty gets doubled by up to a year anyway. What are the odds of it breaking in year 3 as opposed to 1 and 2? On top of that, my $500 camera would probably cost $150 come year 3.
If I were getting a free extra year i would be more inclined to skip over warrenties too.
This is the selling point that gets me:
In three years your camera is probably going to be discontinued and not at the store when you need to take it back. (I havnt checked camera prices for a while so forgive me if im a bit off) Say that 500$ camera was 5.1 megapixel, in three years that camera stops being able to read or write to the memory. You goto the store ro return the camera and check out the new ones, 5.1megapixels are going for 150 bucks but not the one you bought, its been discontinued long ago), but the brand new 10megapixel cams are going for 500$. Congradualtions on getting yourself a brand new 10megapixel camera for only 50$.
The above is the only type of extended warenty I go after and havn't seen many that dont work this way at the major applience stores (BB, circuit city, office depot) I dont see how you could really go wrong.
If I found a set of electronic gizmos breaking down in year 3 from a certain manufacturer, I just wouldn't buy from that manufacturer anymore.
I find its more when I accidently break something. The car radio is a good example, i dropped one MD player and the other got so much dust (pocket lint anyway) inside of it, that it stopped working, i pretty pissed i dropped that last MD player when i did, if it would have been a week later i could have gotten the one that records up to like 16x.. well i guess thats not all that great since id have to use shitty atrec and their copy protection schemes...
Why do people always refer to the extended warrenties as rip-offs?
I tell ya i sure do felt bent over when a reciever, car radio, dvd player, tv, etc goes out after 2 and a half years and i get a brand new one to replace it.
I DONT buy anything electronic without the warrenty, ive gone through 3 mini-disc players, how many have a paid for? one with an extendended warrenty, then after the second one broke i spent another 30$ for another three years... yeah let me tell ya they really pulled one over on me... I got in a car accident that cause the front plate of my radio to fly off and hit the shifter killing half the back lighting, brand new radio.... you know it be a shame to go without a fridge because you cant afford a 1500$ fridge right now, if only you hadnt insisted "your no sucker, im not spending 150$ on a 5 year warrenty"
According to Ernst Webber, the Just Noticable Difference for vision in humans is 8 percent. Im not sure how you would go about calculating the differences in this case but, i've got two theorys on what it should be:
A) Since the quality is already well over 8% most people should notice a difference no matter what.
or-
B) The screen would only need to be 8% bigger, then again if you think of it this way, you would really be asking how much bigger would the display need to get before anyone notice the display was bigger...
I never said anything about bandwidth, I by refering the other other machines, I was refering to the cycles the routers have to use to route the traffic, not the bandwidth used although the bandwidth is still being paid for by your money, and the spam is taking that from you.
Since you brought bandwidth up imagine if I sent you several peices of mail every day but somehow worked out a deal with the postoffice to collect from you the cost of the stamp instead, and continued mailing these from random locations and with great anonymity and the post office forced you to pay. So you grin and bear it, eventually it gets to the point where you have to hire somebody to go through your mail and pick out whats real or not. You wouldnt be to happy about having to pay for some lacky to go through your mail AND recieving the mail your not even going to look at now are you, mixed with the delay in getting your mail?
I belive the above is a fairly decent anology (notice i said "IMAGINE IF") to having to pay for the bandwidth and hardware costs needed for the spam problem, I find most people who say, "Spam isnt a problem just delete it like I do", often don't think of the BIG picture.
Yes Yes, there are whole mail departments used to sort mail, but think about the extra help you would need to hire if there was a significant increase...
Your not wasting cycles, your wasting MORE cycles. Think of all the routers and machines between where the spam was sent and where it was recieved, all those machines are spending time sending all this spam. Then think of the relay the spammers are sending through and of the machine receiving the email. Due to recieving so much spam its now necissary to run spam filters, taking many cycles to filter.
On a k6-2 500 running any email through adds ~9 seconds to run through the filters. Thats just for a server that recieves VERY little mail (~100 a month) so those cycles are really no big deal, but just imagine whats required to deliver mail in a timly fashion when dealing with thousands of emails a day, an hour, in some cases minutes possibly even seconds.
More cycles.
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erm, sorry i didnt mean highest quality, highest was supposed to be normal (128-192)
sorry =\ i knew i should have previewed *kicks self*
Sorry, but I did put forth the effort, and the tide was minimally, if at all, stemmed.
I do not want to pay for caller ID. It's $9 a month here, and my telephone bill is bloated enough with charges forcing me to subsidize some farmers' phone line. On top of that I've seen caller ID in action. Scrolling through a friend's CID history on his phone revealed a large number of "Out of Area" or "Unavailable" entries. Is it someone you know? Maybe? There's no way to tell until you answer.
I have an answering machine. It answers the phone when I'm not there and takes messages for me. Good. When I'm there, I want to answer the phone and talk to my friends and family without making them do the classic "Hello, are you there? Helloooo?" on the machine.
I tried for a long time to tell the telemarketers "do not call me." I followed the instructions at http://www.junkbusters.org . The problem with it is that quite often I am being called by a recorded message that I cannot ask to stop calling me. The other common phenomenon is the "dead air" phone. I answer, there's a few moments of nothing, then 'click.' It's the telemarketer's autodialer dropping me, but I've already abandoned whatever I was doing to answer a phone to nothing. Additionally, some telemarketers are very, very brazen about ignoring your do not call request. I can think of two occasions where, when I began to ask the telemarketer for their name, company, put me on your do not call list, etc., they loudly responded "What? What? I can't hear what you're saying? I'm sorry, what?" then they'd hang up without acknowledging what I had asked them to do.
This kind of invasive, trampling behavior on behalf of the telemarketers has brought forth the demand for something to be done; well, now we have a national do not call list. I hope they are happy with themselves.
Thanks for doing the typing for me, again when I AM HOME why should I have to let the phone sit and ring when the caller ID says its a telemarketer? I couldnt even beign to tell you how many times the following has happened: "hello", "yes this is--", "--could you just add me to your" *click* i assure you they didnt bother to add me to their DNCL...
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bah, i was one of the first to help suport vqf back in the day, i had the third largest collection on the IRC network we traded on... i listen to them comparied to an average MP3 and they sound like ass compaired to the highest quality encoded MP3.. MP+ sounded better then VQF, and most mp3s (different form of vairable bitrate mp3)
Not a troll or flamebait but VQF quite honestly sounds like trash through anything but a 5$ set of speakers...
Yes its needed when your getting as many as we were... before indiana created a do not call list there were days where i recived up to 4 calls an hour, most of the time it was just 1 or 2, we have yet to recive one since it went into effect.
About the third time your in the middle of a project and get interupted 4 times you start getting pretty fed up with it, if your not already fed up from getting waken up by a call placed at the exact time they're able to start calling.
ive read and have been told by psycholody teachers, it takes about 15 minutes to get back in the groove you were in, all that lost productivity....
I'd say that based on the intent of the law, the answer to that is "no", but it could be argued that point (2) does apply to your situation.
i belive you ment (1), if the guy from IL buys an account for mail-hosting from a company in CA, he will be billed by the company in CA. I would assume he would qualify under section (1), not (2)..
wait, dont put the money in there yet, dont you want to put a mini-ITX system in there first! =P
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Looks ot be a changing machine as well.... or possibly a way to deposit money instantly instead of putting it in the envelop, throwing it in the deposit slot, and waiting for the bank to empty
Perhpas it/is/ the content being offered thats making micropayment fail, just not the way the article is describing.
Instead of charging 25c for EVERY game you have, why not charge a flat fee of maybe 1.50-2 and you can access everything for an hour/day or until you close your browser.
Why does every website want to go with the monthly fees? This stuff is on the internet the place where pretty much anything can happen instantly, why do all subscription type services involve so much time?
Disclaimer: notice i said "appears to be legit" i have no clue wheather or not what the guy went through makes the moon his or not. Im keeping an open mind on it, because one day we might find out, so ill wait for the courts to decide;)
There already is a company that sells plots on the moon. It appears to be legit, supposidly this guy was granted rights to do this buy sending letters to all the members of the UN stating that since no one claimed rights to the property he was claiming it for himself. According to the law if no one objected the property was his. Several large coperations (lots of hotel chains) have purchesed space including the US government. Celebrities have purchesed some land too.
I believe its because the person applying the mail filter will be wanting to get the feedback, most will be used by parents monitor their kids, watching what employees are sending, and receiving, and in general if THEY have chosen to block the words THEY should be mature enough to see the results, now if its sending a copy to the intended user and not just the admin thats a different story. It sends it to the original sender because, they have already used the word, so its fairly assumable they have no problems with such a word.
You also have to remember, their not all designed for just single bad words. Some may use to monitor for phrases like "i killed" "i will kill" "going to buy crack"...
Most dont diable it because they dont know what it is, but even more to the point, no one disables it because in widnows 2000 and up you cant disable it.
and their bundled spyware logs where you go if you circumvent the block.
The irony, AOL 9 now comes with an ad/spyware detector/remover. This might just be the last version of AOL as everytime it is installed it automaticly uninstalled itself!
On a side note, everyone knows AOL is an unlimited use service and has been for ages. Are there any marketers who could explain why AOL keeps shwoing off hours of use instead of just comming out and saying unlimited use?
they're too bulky, expensive, battery-hungry, difficult to read, and just generally inconvenient to read when compared with books
The last two books ive purchesed have been eBooks (from palm digital media), both were much cheaper then the paper version, Redshift Renduvuos (sp?) ran me something like 4.99, the paperback was 9.99, and Evolution for 14.99 retailed for 29.99 and i got it a week before it hit the bookshelf.
Bulky? How do you figure a digital file is Bulky?
Difficult to read? The eBook software for my nx70v is exellent, auto-scroll, invert colors, bookmarking, note taking etc, i can lay down on my bed open up the palm and let it scroll away, major convience. And battery life, i can generally read for about 6 hours without needing to recharge (generally an hour a night).
I can read the book on any system i goto, if i install the ebook software. They have a free version for everything (IIRC windows, linux, mac, palm, ppc) as well as a pay version with features ill never use. When you buy a book it gets put in your library and you can redownload it as many times as you need.
The only downside is the software isnt open source...
B&N has been on my bad side since none in my area would carry this 2600. They simply stated that they werent revcieving this quarters issue. For all I know they could be telling the truth, but theyve carried all the others so ive com eup with my own little conspiricies...
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When we bought our tv in dec the sales guy told us they were 100% and told us he just bought our 1400$ tv for ~700+tax the week prior, we were able to talk him down a bit after that slip up =) (we got 100 pulled off right there, then another 100 when the TV went down in price two weeks later.
;)
Granted sales ppl are full of it, but i see no reason for him to lie about how much he just bought the same tv for with discount (he said his was cost + 10%).
I take it with a grain of salt... im actually more inclined to belive your 10% then his 100%, so ill assume its really somewhere in between now
Some big name electronic stores have manager/salesperson quotas on how many extended warranties are sold, with the idea being that you slim your margins on an electronics item, and get it back on the warranty .... If the store is doing this for the customer's benefit, then they're most likely not going to bug you about it unless they can get something in return.
I also hate this kind of stuff, but its not really a fault of extendended warrenties, just higher ups making stupid rules because they have no clue how much its pissing off the consumer.
So I do take a chance when I go without paying $50 on a $500 camera for 2 more years of warranty, but at the same time, when I use my CC to buy it, my warranty gets doubled by up to a year anyway. What are the odds of it breaking in year 3 as opposed to 1 and 2? On top of that, my $500 camera would probably cost $150 come year 3.
If I were getting a free extra year i would be more inclined to skip over warrenties too.
This is the selling point that gets me:
In three years your camera is probably going to be discontinued and not at the store when you need to take it back. (I havnt checked camera prices for a while so forgive me if im a bit off) Say that 500$ camera was 5.1 megapixel, in three years that camera stops being able to read or write to the memory. You goto the store ro return the camera and check out the new ones, 5.1megapixels are going for 150 bucks but not the one you bought, its been discontinued long ago), but the brand new 10megapixel cams are going for 500$. Congradualtions on getting yourself a brand new 10megapixel camera for only 50$.
The above is the only type of extended warenty I go after and havn't seen many that dont work this way at the major applience stores (BB, circuit city, office depot) I dont see how you could really go wrong.
If I found a set of electronic gizmos breaking down in year 3 from a certain manufacturer, I just wouldn't buy from that manufacturer anymore.
I find its more when I accidently break something. The car radio is a good example, i dropped one MD player and the other got so much dust (pocket lint anyway) inside of it, that it stopped working, i pretty pissed i dropped that last MD player when i did, if it would have been a week later i could have gotten the one that records up to like 16x.. well i guess thats not all that great since id have to use shitty atrec and their copy protection schemes...
Why do people always refer to the extended warrenties as rip-offs?
I tell ya i sure do felt bent over when a reciever, car radio, dvd player, tv, etc goes out after 2 and a half years and i get a brand new one to replace it.
I DONT buy anything electronic without the warrenty, ive gone through 3 mini-disc players, how many have a paid for? one with an extendended warrenty, then after the second one broke i spent another 30$ for another three years... yeah let me tell ya they really pulled one over on me... I got in a car accident that cause the front plate of my radio to fly off and hit the shifter killing half the back lighting, brand new radio.... you know it be a shame to go without a fridge because you cant afford a 1500$ fridge right now, if only you hadnt insisted "your no sucker, im not spending 150$ on a 5 year warrenty"
best buys standard markup for large televisions is 100%... they buy for 700 your buy for 1400
Longhorn will be a very, very significant upgrade, as drastic as the change from Windows 3.1 to 95
/every other/ windows release was significant right?
Kinda like how
According to Ernst Webber, the Just Noticable Difference for vision in humans is 8 percent. Im not sure how you would go about calculating the differences in this case but, i've got two theorys on what it should be:
A) Since the quality is already well over 8% most people should notice a difference no matter what.
or-
B) The screen would only need to be 8% bigger, then again if you think of it this way, you would really be asking how much bigger would the display need to get before anyone notice the display was bigger...
I never said anything about bandwidth, I by refering the other other machines, I was refering to the cycles the routers have to use to route the traffic, not the bandwidth used although the bandwidth is still being paid for by your money, and the spam is taking that from you.
Since you brought bandwidth up imagine if I sent you several peices of mail every day but somehow worked out a deal with the postoffice to collect from you the cost of the stamp instead, and continued mailing these from random locations and with great anonymity and the post office forced you to pay. So you grin and bear it, eventually it gets to the point where you have to hire somebody to go through your mail and pick out whats real or not. You wouldnt be to happy about having to pay for some lacky to go through your mail AND recieving the mail your not even going to look at now are you, mixed with the delay in getting your mail?
I belive the above is a fairly decent anology (notice i said "IMAGINE IF") to having to pay for the bandwidth and hardware costs needed for the spam problem, I find most people who say, "Spam isnt a problem just delete it like I do", often don't think of the BIG picture.
Yes Yes, there are whole mail departments used to sort mail, but think about the extra help you would need to hire if there was a significant increase...
Your not wasting cycles, your wasting MORE cycles. Think of all the routers and machines between where the spam was sent and where it was recieved, all those machines are spending time sending all this spam. Then think of the relay the spammers are sending through and of the machine receiving the email. Due to recieving so much spam its now necissary to run spam filters, taking many cycles to filter.
On a k6-2 500 running any email through adds ~9 seconds to run through the filters. Thats just for a server that recieves VERY little mail (~100 a month) so those cycles are really no big deal, but just imagine whats required to deliver mail in a timly fashion when dealing with thousands of emails a day, an hour, in some cases minutes possibly even seconds.
More cycles.
erm, sorry i didnt mean highest quality, highest was supposed to be normal (128-192)
sorry =\ i knew i should have previewed *kicks self*
Sorry, but I did put forth the effort, and the tide was minimally, if at all, stemmed.
I do not want to pay for caller ID. It's $9 a month here, and my telephone bill is bloated enough with charges forcing me to subsidize some farmers' phone line. On top of that I've seen caller ID in action. Scrolling through a friend's CID history on his phone revealed a large number of "Out of Area" or "Unavailable" entries. Is it someone you know? Maybe? There's no way to tell until you answer.
I have an answering machine. It answers the phone when I'm not there and takes messages for me. Good. When I'm there, I want to answer the phone and talk to my friends and family without making them do the classic "Hello, are you there? Helloooo?" on the machine.
I tried for a long time to tell the telemarketers "do not call me." I followed the instructions at http://www.junkbusters.org . The problem with it is that quite often I am being called by a recorded message that I cannot ask to stop calling me. The other common phenomenon is the "dead air" phone. I answer, there's a few moments of nothing, then 'click.' It's the telemarketer's autodialer dropping me, but I've already abandoned whatever I was doing to answer a phone to nothing. Additionally, some telemarketers are very, very brazen about ignoring your do not call request. I can think of two occasions where, when I began to ask the telemarketer for their name, company, put me on your do not call list, etc., they loudly responded "What? What? I can't hear what you're saying? I'm sorry, what?" then they'd hang up without acknowledging what I had asked them to do.
This kind of invasive, trampling behavior on behalf of the telemarketers has brought forth the demand for something to be done; well, now we have a national do not call list. I hope they are happy with themselves.
Thanks for doing the typing for me, again when I AM HOME why should I have to let the phone sit and ring when the caller ID says its a telemarketer? I couldnt even beign to tell you how many times the following has happened: "hello", "yes this is--", "--could you just add me to your" *click* i assure you they didnt bother to add me to their DNCL...
bah, i was one of the first to help suport vqf back in the day, i had the third largest collection on the IRC network we traded on... i listen to them comparied to an average MP3 and they sound like ass compaired to the highest quality encoded MP3.. MP+ sounded better then VQF, and most mp3s (different form of vairable bitrate mp3)
Not a troll or flamebait but VQF quite honestly sounds like trash through anything but a 5$ set of speakers...
Yes its needed when your getting as many as we were... before indiana created a do not call list there were days where i recived up to 4 calls an hour, most of the time it was just 1 or 2, we have yet to recive one since it went into effect.
About the third time your in the middle of a project and get interupted 4 times you start getting pretty fed up with it, if your not already fed up from getting waken up by a call placed at the exact time they're able to start calling.
ive read and have been told by psycholody teachers, it takes about 15 minutes to get back in the groove you were in, all that lost productivity....
I'd say that based on the intent of the law, the answer to that is "no", but it could be argued that point (2) does apply to your situation.
i belive you ment (1), if the guy from IL buys an account for mail-hosting from a company in CA, he will be billed by the company in CA. I would assume he would qualify under section (1), not (2)..
RTA:
"Heistad grilled them on their tech needs--really, all they wanted to do was send digital pictures of the kids to Grandma."
how the hell does this get "INTERESTING"!?
Thanks for the quick and to the point instructions and full links to all the files needed. I wish i had some points to mark this INFORMATIVE.
wait, dont put the money in there yet, dont you want to put a mini-ITX system in there first! =P
Looks ot be a changing machine as well.... or possibly a way to deposit money instantly instead of putting it in the envelop, throwing it in the deposit slot, and waiting for the bank to empty
Perhpas it /is/ the content being offered thats making micropayment fail, just not the way the article is describing.
Instead of charging 25c for EVERY game you have, why not charge a flat fee of maybe 1.50-2 and you can access everything for an hour/day or until you close your browser.
Why does every website want to go with the monthly fees? This stuff is on the internet the place where pretty much anything can happen instantly, why do all subscription type services involve so much time?
Disclaimer: notice i said "appears to be legit" i have no clue wheather or not what the guy went through makes the moon his or not. Im keeping an open mind on it, because one day we might find out, so ill wait for the courts to decide ;)
There already is a company that sells plots on the moon. It appears to be legit, supposidly this guy was granted rights to do this buy sending letters to all the members of the UN stating that since no one claimed rights to the property he was claiming it for himself. According to the law if no one objected the property was his. Several large coperations (lots of hotel chains) have purchesed space including the US government. Celebrities have purchesed some land too.
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I believe its because the person applying the mail filter will be wanting to get the feedback, most will be used by parents monitor their kids, watching what employees are sending, and receiving, and in general if THEY have chosen to block the words THEY should be mature enough to see the results, now if its sending a copy to the intended user and not just the admin thats a different story. It sends it to the original sender because, they have already used the word, so its fairly assumable they have no problems with such a word.
You also have to remember, their not all designed for just single bad words. Some may use to monitor for phrases like "i killed" "i will kill" "going to buy crack"...
starting to get the picture?
Most dont diable it because they dont know what it is, but even more to the point, no one disables it because in widnows 2000 and up you cant disable it.
and their bundled spyware logs where you go if you circumvent the block.
The irony, AOL 9 now comes with an ad/spyware detector/remover. This might just be the last version of AOL as everytime it is installed it automaticly uninstalled itself!
On a side note, everyone knows AOL is an unlimited use service and has been for ages. Are there any marketers who could explain why AOL keeps shwoing off hours of use instead of just comming out and saying unlimited use?
they're too bulky, expensive, battery-hungry, difficult to read, and just generally inconvenient to read when compared with books
The last two books ive purchesed have been eBooks (from palm digital media), both were much cheaper then the paper version, Redshift Renduvuos (sp?) ran me something like 4.99, the paperback was 9.99, and Evolution for 14.99 retailed for 29.99 and i got it a week before it hit the bookshelf.
Bulky? How do you figure a digital file is Bulky?
Difficult to read?
The eBook software for my nx70v is exellent, auto-scroll, invert colors, bookmarking, note taking etc, i can lay down on my bed open up the palm and let it scroll away, major convience. And battery life, i can generally read for about 6 hours without needing to recharge (generally an hour a night).
I can read the book on any system i goto, if i install the ebook software. They have a free version for everything (IIRC windows, linux, mac, palm, ppc) as well as a pay version with features ill never use. When you buy a book it gets put in your library and you can redownload it as many times as you need.
The only downside is the software isnt open source...
B&N has been on my bad side since none in my area would carry this 2600. They simply stated that they werent revcieving this quarters issue. For all I know they could be telling the truth, but theyve carried all the others so ive com eup with my own little conspiricies...