The current format is simple, machine-and-human parseable, portable and reliable. SQLite is none of these things.
i respectfully disagree. SQLite is:
simple - IMNSHO it's simpler to use an embedded database to manage a huge list of items and metadata instead of a plain XML files
machine-and-human parseable - while not as easy as vi-ing a textfile this tool helps a lot. it's very elegant and you can always dump and edit the text.
portable - "Database files can be freely shared between machines with different byte orders."
all that and an elegant API to access your data. some scripting languages have support for it too and you can jump straight to coding right away (PHP for example)
Aside to the moderators: my "flamebait" comment is essentially the same [...]
i don't consider your comment to be flamebait. you just seem to have a serious aversion to databases that get `misused', but you also fail to provide solid reasoning.
and i'm probably biased too, because i use lots of different databases (embedded or not) to store lots of shit, as it's really great to have a nice interface to your data stores.
hell, i might be wrong but in this case it seems a good idea, and i gotta admit i'm pretty dissapointed that they bumped it.
Storing bookmarks and history in a sql database is possibly the dumbest idea I've heard in a long, long time. With any luck, this will remain a feature of the future...forever.
FYI SQLite is small, fast and stores everything in a file. it's not like they want to store your bookmarks in a fucking Oracle installation. SQLite is embedded and fits the purpose quite well. perhaps not very boner-inducing from a user standpoint, but a programmer can clearly see the benefits of such a thing: easy access, searching, management, etc. even for third party tools.
a vast improvement over the current XMLish kludge (i won't even mention the MORKiness, plenty of other slashdotters did). if you ever tried to do anything else with an XML file (besides transforming it) you know how *fun* that is.
i'd prefer a platformed nongui version, preferrably written in C so i wouldn't even notice it running:)
it's your lucky day. rtorrent is written around a very nice C++ library (hence the site name), so you can even hack your own client pretty easily if you don't like that one. and it's really easy on the resources a vast improvement over all the python crazyness (i won't even mention azureus' java `magic'). highly recommended for console junkies. combine that with screen and you have yourself a fucking textual party. also for quick and dirty jobs i've had good experiences with ctorrent.
disclaimer: yes i am a rtorrent fanboi, but on Windows uTorrent remains king.
Under either version, I can mount my Windows drive, but no matter what arguments I give mount, it's still read only. So far, I haven't been able to find the magic incantation to allow write access to my FAT32 partition from Linux.
i don't know if this is a troll or an actual problem, but how about you try -t vfat -o rw?
Gee, I don't think you understand the purpose of analogies. When I say that "engine is to car as processor is to computer," I'm not saying that "car = computer," [...]
i don't think you understand what an analogy is. while a car is a vehicle designed to take you from point A to point B, a computer is an infinitely programmable software platform. so i fail to see how the two (car/computer) are similar. now, i may be wrong, that's just how i see things.
The point is that most folks don't want to be bothered with maintenance [...]
when did computers become such dumb appliances? i guess i must have missed a memo again. i understand all about the "average consumer" argument. what i don't understand is why is it always brought up *here* of all places. news for nerds anyone?
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i know what's the last book that linus read. do you?
But seriously, when they worked on Directx6 (or was it 9?) they were the ones that made Shogo: Mobile Armor Division
mono-lith != microsoft. SHOGO was even published by mono-lith, so i really don't know where you got microsoft. the same mono-lith that brought us Blood, NOLF and recently F.E.A.R.
it is true that the game required DX but it was ported to amiga, linux and mac so i would not go so far as to call it a DX showcase.
that's what i was thinking about too. don't i need three cores for THREE dimensions?
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Yea I am wondering if they should put it back into BETA. Google betas are much more stable.
it already is BETA. i played with it earlier today, before it hit slash, and it worked fine. it's just swamped by all the hits, but either than that it is a pretty nifty app.
what would you say if MS Word or vi worked like that?
MSWord costs money. i'd call support and bitch about it. vi is a damn text editor. text editors don't crash or use lots of resources. what i'm saying is that for what it does and how it does it Firefox is *not* a hog. if i can live with it in only 256 megs of ram, then i must call bullshit on all the people that have 2G and still whine.
i've got no problem with the memory usage. my install hovers around 60-70 megs with ~10 tabs opened at all times. if it starts acting funny and passes the 100 meg mark i just restart it. session saver helps you not give a fuck about that.
in all fairness he did mention that you can install stable binary packages, which you can -- they release builds every quarter. his argument basically is that if you like control over your systems you should use netbsd, if you don't then use a `modern' linux distro, which i guess is also ok, but not for me.
i come from a Slackware background, and i believe my views on simplicity and/or ease of use are slightly different. i like the fact that NetBSD is a simple barebobones system [the overhead he was talking about, i dont think that means what he think it means] -- it's small, simple but provides everything you need for a base on which you will build your workstation/server.
one of its best features [this is mentioned in the TFA also if you paid attention] is the separation of the base from the application packages, effectively ridding you of the fucking mess that all these `modern' distros have. the rc system and everything, a breath of fresh air. basically, there are a lot of *sane* defaults which don't take control away from you, but actually help you along your merry way.
and all this talk about `desktop readyness' seems pretty bogus to me [Linux gets a lot of this too]. i have two NetBSD boxes on my desktop right now and they are both pretty much ready. from what i remember, it took about an hour to go from zero to usable system on both. all i had to do was pop the cd in, press a few keys, edit a few config files and install some packages. that was it. not rocket science.
and if that's too much work for you in big installations, that's not really an issue. when you have 1000 computers you don't go around installing/configuring the os by hand on each and every one of them -- you use some sort of master disk, and a central repo for deploying application packages.
i'm no zealot. i have Linux/W2K around here too. i just find that NetBSD is best suited for my needs.
especially secure, stable, line-of-business, database-driven applications that don't require a masters degree in engineering and a hacker tatoo to pull off.
correct me if i'm wrong, but shouldn't the people that write these amazing-line-of-sight-enterprise-ready-kung-fu-cri tical apps actually *know* what the fuck they are doing? you make it sound like it's a bad thing to be skilled.
IFPI targeted both those who 'illicitly downloaded music' as well as uploaders serving copyrighted material on file-sharing networks.
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The IFPI's legal proceedings were aimed not at people who illicitly downloaded music but ``uploaders'' who put copyrighted music onto file-sharing networks.
People have a really poor perspective on computers these days.
i second that emotion.
i run a fileserver with only 32 megs of ram. it has 3 HDDs and i constantly burn DVDs on the thing. never had to bother upgrading the memory because it does what it's supposed to do just fine. and i always get weird looks and raised eyebrows when people hear about it.
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i respectfully disagree. SQLite is:
all that and an elegant API to access your data. some scripting languages have support for it too and you can jump straight to coding right away (PHP for example)
Aside to the moderators: my "flamebait" comment is essentially the same [...]
i don't consider your comment to be flamebait. you just seem to have a serious aversion to databases that get `misused', but you also fail to provide solid reasoning.
and i'm probably biased too, because i use lots of different databases (embedded or not) to store lots of shit, as it's really great to have a nice interface to your data stores.
hell, i might be wrong but in this case it seems a good idea, and i gotta admit i'm pretty dissapointed that they bumped it.
just my 0.02RON
FYI SQLite is small, fast and stores everything in a file. it's not like they want to store your bookmarks in a fucking Oracle installation. SQLite is embedded and fits the purpose quite well. perhaps not very boner-inducing from a user standpoint, but a programmer can clearly see the benefits of such a thing: easy access, searching, management, etc. even for third party tools.
a vast improvement over the current XMLish kludge (i won't even mention the MORKiness, plenty of other slashdotters did). if you ever tried to do anything else with an XML file (besides transforming it) you know how *fun* that is.
it's your lucky day. rtorrent is written around a very nice C++ library (hence the site name), so you can even hack your own client pretty easily if you don't like that one. and it's really easy on the resources a vast improvement over all the python crazyness (i won't even mention azureus' java `magic'). highly recommended for console junkies. combine that with screen and you have yourself a fucking textual party. also for quick and dirty jobs i've had good experiences with ctorrent.
disclaimer: yes i am a rtorrent fanboi, but on Windows uTorrent remains king.
yes you can. PGP is an open standard not proprietary crippling, so your analogy fails.
i don't know if this is a troll or an actual problem, but how about you try -t vfat -o rw?
SLAX is based on Slackware too afaik. it was even called "slackware live" a while back.
no. http://www.newstarget.com/003639.html
oh yeah? then let's make it official: i hereby call on you, the slashdot.org member, to say no to computers/cars analogies!
i don't think you understand what an analogy is. while a car is a vehicle designed to take you from point A to point B, a computer is an infinitely programmable software platform. so i fail to see how the two (car/computer) are similar. now, i may be wrong, that's just how i see things.
The point is that most folks don't want to be bothered with maintenance [...]when did computers become such dumb appliances? i guess i must have missed a memo again. i understand all about the "average consumer" argument. what i don't understand is why is it always brought up *here* of all places. news for nerds anyone?
could everyone please stop it with the car analogies? a computer is nothing like a car.
i know what's the last book that linus read. do you?
mono-lith != microsoft. SHOGO was even published by mono-lith, so i really don't know where you got microsoft. the same mono-lith that brought us Blood, NOLF and recently F.E.A.R.
it is true that the game required DX but it was ported to amiga, linux and mac so i would not go so far as to call it a DX showcase.
that's what i was thinking about too. don't i need three cores for THREE dimensions?
it already is BETA. i played with it earlier today, before it hit slash, and it worked fine. it's just swamped by all the hits, but either than that it is a pretty nifty app.
it is pretty productive, if your job is to get stabbed in the eyes.
as the old saying goes: remember kids, silicon is for chips, silicone is for tits.
MSWord costs money. i'd call support and bitch about it. vi is a damn text editor. text editors don't crash or use lots of resources. what i'm saying is that for what it does and how it does it Firefox is *not* a hog. if i can live with it in only 256 megs of ram, then i must call bullshit on all the people that have 2G and still whine.
i've got no problem with the memory usage. my install hovers around 60-70 megs with ~10 tabs opened at all times. if it starts acting funny and passes the 100 meg mark i just restart it. session saver helps you not give a fuck about that.
what about AdWords?
in all fairness he did mention that you can install stable binary packages, which you can -- they release builds every quarter. his argument basically is that if you like control over your systems you should use netbsd, if you don't then use a `modern' linux distro, which i guess is also ok, but not for me.
i come from a Slackware background, and i believe my views on simplicity and/or ease of use are slightly different. i like the fact that NetBSD is a simple barebobones system [the overhead he was talking about, i dont think that means what he think it means] -- it's small, simple but provides everything you need for a base on which you will build your workstation/server.
one of its best features [this is mentioned in the TFA also if you paid attention] is the separation of the base from the application packages, effectively ridding you of the fucking mess that all these `modern' distros have. the rc system and everything, a breath of fresh air. basically, there are a lot of *sane* defaults which don't take control away from you, but actually help you along your merry way.
and all this talk about `desktop readyness' seems pretty bogus to me [Linux gets a lot of this too]. i have two NetBSD boxes on my desktop right now and they are both pretty much ready. from what i remember, it took about an hour to go from zero to usable system on both. all i had to do was pop the cd in, press a few keys, edit a few config files and install some packages. that was it. not rocket science.
and if that's too much work for you in big installations, that's not really an issue. when you have 1000 computers you don't go around installing/configuring the os by hand on each and every one of them -- you use some sort of master disk, and a central repo for deploying application packages.
i'm no zealot. i have Linux/W2K around here too. i just find that NetBSD is best suited for my needs.
just my 0.02RON
correct me if i'm wrong, but shouldn't the people that write these amazing-line-of-sight-enterprise-ready-kung-fu-cri tical apps actually *know* what the fuck they are doing? you make it sound like it's a bad thing to be skilled.
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IFPI targeted both those who 'illicitly downloaded music' as well as uploaders serving copyrighted material on file-sharing networks.FTA
The IFPI's legal proceedings were aimed not at people who illicitly downloaded music but ``uploaders'' who put copyrighted music onto file-sharing networks.so which is it?
i second that emotion.
i run a fileserver with only 32 megs of ram. it has 3 HDDs and i constantly burn DVDs on the thing. never had to bother upgrading the memory because it does what it's supposed to do just fine. and i always get weird looks and raised eyebrows when people hear about it.
i dry hump a beastie doll, you insensitive clod!