That's what the website says -- released 4/24. Yet I've been using IE7 for a while now, I'm thinking about 6 weeks, and I could have sworn it was Beta 2. In fact, my Help/About box claims that its Beta 2 as well. So is this a rerelease or really version 2.1?
Screw that. Give 500. Give a number so rediculously high that your help desk should practically never have to deal with another "locked account" again, but so stunningly low that a brute-force attack will never succeed. It turns out that these two boundaries are still pretty far apart from one another.
What exactly is sociable about running? You can't talk when running, and you probably don't go at the same speed as everyone else.
Well, let's see. First, you don't have to go at the same speed as everybody else. In my local running group, for long runs I go at the same speed as about 7-10 other people. I find that number sufficient for conversation, YMMV.
As for talking, well, there's more to running than an all out sprint, you know. If you're a distance runner you should be running aerobically, which means conversationally. I've done many long runs (3+ hours) talking all the time. You get some great stories that way. Besides, how often do you get to spend time with friends with nothing to do but talk? Having said that, there are times when a nice quiet solo 7-10 miler is a gladly welcomed meditative friend as well.
You've also neglected to mention that running is completely mindless and monotonous. It's like being in an imaginary hampster wheel.
By that I take it to mean that you haven't really tried it, and don't see why anybody should. Monotonous? Hardly. You see some beautiful sites, meet great people, and experience all sorts of conditions. Running a city is quite possibly the best way to see it up close, and really get to learn it, even if you live there. I don't think I had learned half as much about some of the different NYC neighborhoods (not even close) as I did before doing their marathon. Starting before dawn and running up to the top of Mt. Bonnell (our local largest hill) to watch the sunrise can be quite spectacular.
Note: No, I didn't grow up running. Until about 3 years ago I was a couch potato who couldn't run a mile without gasping. People change.
The difference between a car and a computer (in this case) is that the computer should be able to detect a dangerous condition and shut itself down - it's pretty easy to know at what temperature damage will occur. It's not so easy in a car; you can't tell at what precise point there's too much load because there are too many variables.
The thing is that the exact temperature is hard to determine. So the manufacturer figures out what a "reasonable" temperature is, and designs the system -- clocking various components down if necessary -- so that in a "worst case" scenario it won't be hit. This kind of overclocking overrides those very safeguards. Even if there were separate heat-related shutdown triggers, I'd be willing to bet that people would disable them. After all, from the grandparent post:
Imagine the problems I might cause by actually writing software for my computer that "broke my machine or crippled its performance"! Surely I wouldn't deserve support. Maybe we can modify the DMCA so that us madmen will be prevented from running whatever code we want on our machines.
So the manufacturer really can't win, can they? Anyway, you go on to mention:
Every modern CPU that I'm aware of has overheat protection. I'd guess GPUs are doing the same thing by now, and if not, well, there's no excuse. Every major heat-generating chip should be doing this.
Wonderful! So CPU overclockers can't overheat their systems. Except, well, it turns out that they can. Bit of a problem, that.
What is this sort of reactionary condemnation of people that want to play sophisticated games on their Macs or run a different OS or experiment with changing driver code? The distilled quote seems to be, "I use my Mac for x, therefore user who try something else are violating the intention of the manufacturer." So what? Tweaking hardware to see what it can do or to expose a possible bad design decision or (shock, horror) to learn something new is interesting to a lot of folks. Sheesh.
Its just like working on a car, guys. You redo your interior and the engine blows? Hey, the manufacturer is liable. You chip your turbo up from 7psi to 18psi (removing an "artificial limitation" on the hardware) and the engine blows? Its your own damn problem, and you have some expensive head work in your future.
I don't see any reason why computer-mods wouldn't be covered under the same framework. Paint your case and the computer blows up? Their problem. Overclock your video card and it overheats and fries something? Your problem. Or are you saying that's "not fair"?
Don't think years, think miles. You'll break down the midsole after (generally) 350-400 miles of use, which if you're running on asphalt or concrete will almost certainly lead to issues like shin splints. The outsole may still look fine. Having said that, an easy way to tell is to go for a run, then go to your local running store and try on a new pair of the same shoe. If you can tell the difference in the way it feels, you probably need new shoes.
Well, its pretty convenient if you're training to be able to dump your running logs to the computer. Besides, with GPS watches its actually kinda fun to check out maps of your runs, especially in strange places. But I did point out that it was about the most excessive purchase - I have an older one (Garmin 301) and most of the time I don't bother with it. Damn nice when travelling though.
This is why I like to run. Well, one reason, anyway. As hobbies go its pretty good in and of itself - strengthening, restful, and a remarkably social activity. But more than that, its not a financial drain, or at least not a huge one. Its one of the few activites where money doesn't have a direct influence. Theres an indirect one in that rich people can afford to train all the time and not work, but that's going to be true almost everywhere in life.
Clothes - about $50 for an outfit (top/shorts/socks). 1-2 outfits per season will get you by, although you probably want more for convenience so that you're not washing them all the time.
Watches - not really needed, although $350 buys you about the most expensive running watch you can find (heartrate, GPS, computer sync, et cetera).
Shoes - figure on $80 every 350-400 miles or so for most decent mid-weight sets.
So... its not free, but its certainly not expensive. At least not compared to most other sports, from golf to lan party hardware (is that a sport?). There are no "per play" fees other than racking up mileage, but even many serious runners only spend about $10-12 per week on their shoes. Besides, you can run pretty much anywhere and have both a good time and a good workout.
To enter a race will cost you between $10-100 depending on the distance and the fanciness, but once you're in you'll be using exactly the same equipment as the elite runners from Kenya. At least, as far as anything you can purchase goes. Very few sports still have that distinction. Besides, unlike golfing where you really need to be on a course, if you're just looking for a nice way to spend 3 hours outside with your buddies you can go for a nice long run on the streets for free. Maybe a buck or two tucked away for some PowerAde but, hey, you'd probably be buying something to drink no matter what you're doing, right?
Swimming can be even cheaper as long as you're not using a wetsuit, assuming that you have access to a community pool. But don't even get me started on biking!
By that I assume that 2000 > XP - which gives us according to your other statements:
2000 > 3.1 > XP > everything else > SE
ME was alive for all of a week.
Er, okay, we'll ignore that for now.
Pre 2k, 95 was the best version...
Hmm. So... 2000 > 95 > 3.1. That conflicts with your first statement, naturally. We now have:
2000 > 95 > 3.1 > XP > everything else > SE...barring NT of course.
Finally, we end up with 2000 > NT > 95 > 3.1 > XP > everything else > SE.
Weird. And yes, that's a bit nerdy, but consider the thread title. Personally, I find that XP SP2 is a very usable OS, if not my first choice, but apparently that's just me. I certainly wouldn't take 3.1 as a substitute.
More to the point, ACLs are an OS feature, not a Kernel feature. To linux-the-kernel they are irrelevant. To linux-the-os they are important, after all you need implementations in the filesystem, the file utils, system libraries, gui file browsers, et cetera, to really implement them fully.
The grandparent was making the point that linux-the-os, in whatever flavor, was less mature than windows-the-os. Personally, I don't see that anything you said goes against that point, other than by pedantically treating linux as a kernel only.
Also, a lot of the energy input is simply sunlight which, especially if we started pulling back some of the Ag subsidies in this countries, would be hitting the fields and not doing anything in particular other than warming dirt. So, yes, growing algae does take more energy in absolute terms than mining coal, but it may well take less non-free energy.
Also, it has the added benefit that you can do a C02+sunlight -> algae -> C02+motion cycle which is a (relatively) closed loop. After you extract a specific unit oil or coal from the ground, you can't do it again for many, many, many years. Tread lightly, and all that, eh?
Database scenario: eSATA is slight better than USB2. Interestingly, though, RAID1 is a lot better than RAID0.
RAID1 is far faster than RAID0 for reads, because you can read from whichever disk has the least activity. Its a lot slower for writes, because you need to wait for the slowest disk to send a confirmation. Although for writes you can often use a middle ground where you wait for the first disk to hardware-confirm a write, and then move on. That way you're safe unless you get a machine crash and a HD crash at exactly the same time before the second disk completes its write. And hey, if that happens, your second disk is probably toast as well.
There are some hardware issues to address (battery life, gprs, storage),
Oh, is that all? Well, sign me up. But add the wi-fi drops to that list.
Hmm. Not too compelling. Maybe v3 will be a great product - if they allow it to get that far. But I fear that the problems with v1 leave them wide open to even a slightly better (if much less expandable) product shutting them down.
At least when it comes to the OS, the license key will be on that stupid Windows sticker somewhere on the machine. This won't apply to everyone, of course, but I bet it applies to at least 3-nines of the people who bring their box to BB to fix. Other apps, like Office, it would be easier to decline.
Besides, as people have noted, most individuals who are installing pirated versions have computers that can't handle Areo Glass anyway. Any computer capable enough will come with Visa pre-installed, whenever that happens to be.
I would have thought that only the pirated copies would come with Visa pre-installed...
I know that it is a fact that 1+1=2 (under the common definition of those symbols). Of course, that doesn't prove that if I combine two sets of real-world objects that I'll have a set of 2 real-world objects, but then the a priori is generally less interesting than most people assume.
If you ever do want to have some fun with this, figuring out how you could really say that 1+1=2 with no previous "givens," check out Knuth's (yes, the same Knuth from TAOCP) Surreal Numbers. Interesting stuff.
As a general practice, I NEVER say "Hello" a second time when answering, if it appears that nobody is on the other side of the line. Perhaps it's urban legend, but someone once told me that getting the second "Hello" is the trigger for demon dialers used by telemarketers to hand off to a human.
Yup, urban legend. Many years ago, I worked IT for an ethical telemarketing shop. And by ethical I mean that not only did they maintain their own in-house DNC list, but all of their outbound clients scrubbed against every known DNC list out there. One thing that people don't seem to realize is that telemarketers (the big guys - AT&T, Chase, etc) don't want to piss people off. They also don't want to waste their time; our company was billing something like $20/hr for outbound calling. Time spent calling people who didn't want to talk to them was a waste of money.
When the predicitive dialer calls out, it places somewhat more calls than you have agents. There's a bit of an art to tuning it for different times/locales/etc because you don't want any hangups from now having a free agent, and you don't want any agents without calls. Even back in the early 90s we were detecting tri-tones (disconnected, etc) which was easy, answering machines (which were harder), etc. Once we got a live line, we had something like.4 seconds to transfer the call to an agent along with all of the necessary information on their screen (like the name of whoever they had just called). They would start speaking immediately if it was quiet, since we'd already had one (or some of) "Hello," from the recipient. Two hellos would have gotten us in trouble with our big-name customers.
Of course, this can change if you're talking about a sweatshop selling quasi-legal products, or Policeman's Ball tickets, or whatever.
PostgreSQL needs a reliable, well documented method for performing live incrememental backups. As in:
1) dump the whole database once a day 2) dump the transaction log every 5 minutes
Eww. I mean, if they don't already have one (and if not, well, ick to that too), then what you need are real incremental log backups so that you're continuously writing out your logs as they fill up rather than every xx minutes. That way, as long as your backup system can process fast enough, you know that "last full backup" + "last incremental backup" + "logs on disk" are always going to contain your full dataset. And ideally, that last portion should be miniscule.
But if they don't have this yet, I'm amazed that people are running mission-critical stuff on them.
Google and Yahoo are both examples of very intensive but very simple applications. I call this "wide but shallow." Lots of data flowing through, but comparitivly basic usage patterns. Take a typical ERP system, on the other hand, and you're suddenly looking at a narrow scale but deep requirement package. I worked for over a decade on a tier-one warehouse management package that had over 750 tables, 3+ million LOC, and some very complicated business logic that still measured its throughput in millions of processed order lines per hour (each one requiring many database calls) the last time I benchmarked it, which was back in 2003 on a 4-way IBM.
Its like saying that since Freightliner is the choice of companies like Wal-Mart, that they'd make the best luxury cars for people looking for ideal interior fit and finish. Same principals, totally different application.
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Actually, attempting to install the latest software gives me a warning that it is already installed. So... maybe not?
Ah, it all makes sense now. The Word Document was released yesterday. IE7b2 remains as it was released some time ago. Stupid article summary...
That's what the website says -- released 4/24. Yet I've been using IE7 for a while now, I'm thinking about 6 weeks, and I could have sworn it was Beta 2. In fact, my Help/About box claims that its Beta 2 as well. So is this a rerelease or really version 2.1?
Give 10 or 20 attempts, dammit.
Screw that. Give 500. Give a number so rediculously high that your help desk should practically never have to deal with another "locked account" again, but so stunningly low that a brute-force attack will never succeed. It turns out that these two boundaries are still pretty far apart from one another.
What exactly is sociable about running? You can't talk when running, and you probably don't go at the same speed as everyone else.
Well, let's see. First, you don't have to go at the same speed as everybody else. In my local running group, for long runs I go at the same speed as about 7-10 other people. I find that number sufficient for conversation, YMMV.
As for talking, well, there's more to running than an all out sprint, you know. If you're a distance runner you should be running aerobically, which means conversationally. I've done many long runs (3+ hours) talking all the time. You get some great stories that way. Besides, how often do you get to spend time with friends with nothing to do but talk? Having said that, there are times when a nice quiet solo 7-10 miler is a gladly welcomed meditative friend as well.
You've also neglected to mention that running is completely mindless and monotonous. It's like being in an imaginary hampster wheel.
By that I take it to mean that you haven't really tried it, and don't see why anybody should. Monotonous? Hardly. You see some beautiful sites, meet great people, and experience all sorts of conditions. Running a city is quite possibly the best way to see it up close, and really get to learn it, even if you live there. I don't think I had learned half as much about some of the different NYC neighborhoods (not even close) as I did before doing their marathon. Starting before dawn and running up to the top of Mt. Bonnell (our local largest hill) to watch the sunrise can be quite spectacular.
Note: No, I didn't grow up running. Until about 3 years ago I was a couch potato who couldn't run a mile without gasping. People change.
The difference between a car and a computer (in this case) is that the computer should be able to detect a dangerous condition and shut itself down - it's pretty easy to know at what temperature damage will occur. It's not so easy in a car; you can't tell at what precise point there's too much load because there are too many variables.
The thing is that the exact temperature is hard to determine. So the manufacturer figures out what a "reasonable" temperature is, and designs the system -- clocking various components down if necessary -- so that in a "worst case" scenario it won't be hit. This kind of overclocking overrides those very safeguards. Even if there were separate heat-related shutdown triggers, I'd be willing to bet that people would disable them. After all, from the grandparent post:
Imagine the problems I might cause by actually writing software for my computer that "broke my machine or crippled its performance"! Surely I wouldn't deserve support. Maybe we can modify the DMCA so that us madmen will be prevented from running whatever code we want on our machines.
So the manufacturer really can't win, can they? Anyway, you go on to mention:
Every modern CPU that I'm aware of has overheat protection. I'd guess GPUs are doing the same thing by now, and if not, well, there's no excuse. Every major heat-generating chip should be doing this.
Wonderful! So CPU overclockers can't overheat their systems. Except, well, it turns out that they can. Bit of a problem, that.
What is this sort of reactionary condemnation of people that want to play sophisticated games on their Macs or run a different OS or experiment with changing driver code? The distilled quote seems to be, "I use my Mac for x, therefore user who try something else are violating the intention of the manufacturer." So what? Tweaking hardware to see what it can do or to expose a possible bad design decision or (shock, horror) to learn something new is interesting to a lot of folks. Sheesh.
Its just like working on a car, guys. You redo your interior and the engine blows? Hey, the manufacturer is liable. You chip your turbo up from 7psi to 18psi (removing an "artificial limitation" on the hardware) and the engine blows? Its your own damn problem, and you have some expensive head work in your future.
I don't see any reason why computer-mods wouldn't be covered under the same framework. Paint your case and the computer blows up? Their problem. Overclock your video card and it overheats and fries something? Your problem. Or are you saying that's "not fair"?
Don't think years, think miles. You'll break down the midsole after (generally) 350-400 miles of use, which if you're running on asphalt or concrete will almost certainly lead to issues like shin splints. The outsole may still look fine. Having said that, an easy way to tell is to go for a run, then go to your local running store and try on a new pair of the same shoe. If you can tell the difference in the way it feels, you probably need new shoes.
Well, its pretty convenient if you're training to be able to dump your running logs to the computer. Besides, with GPS watches its actually kinda fun to check out maps of your runs, especially in strange places. But I did point out that it was about the most excessive purchase - I have an older one (Garmin 301) and most of the time I don't bother with it. Damn nice when travelling though.
This is why I like to run. Well, one reason, anyway. As hobbies go its pretty good in and of itself - strengthening, restful, and a remarkably social activity. But more than that, its not a financial drain, or at least not a huge one. Its one of the few activites where money doesn't have a direct influence. Theres an indirect one in that rich people can afford to train all the time and not work, but that's going to be true almost everywhere in life.
Clothes - about $50 for an outfit (top/shorts/socks). 1-2 outfits per season will get you by, although you probably want more for convenience so that you're not washing them all the time.
Watches - not really needed, although $350 buys you about the most expensive running watch you can find (heartrate, GPS, computer sync, et cetera).
Shoes - figure on $80 every 350-400 miles or so for most decent mid-weight sets.
So... its not free, but its certainly not expensive. At least not compared to most other sports, from golf to lan party hardware (is that a sport?). There are no "per play" fees other than racking up mileage, but even many serious runners only spend about $10-12 per week on their shoes. Besides, you can run pretty much anywhere and have both a good time and a good workout.
To enter a race will cost you between $10-100 depending on the distance and the fanciness, but once you're in you'll be using exactly the same equipment as the elite runners from Kenya. At least, as far as anything you can purchase goes. Very few sports still have that distinction. Besides, unlike golfing where you really need to be on a course, if you're just looking for a nice way to spend 3 hours outside with your buddies you can go for a nice long run on the streets for free. Maybe a buck or two tucked away for some PowerAde but, hey, you'd probably be buying something to drink no matter what you're doing, right?
Swimming can be even cheaper as long as you're not using a wetsuit, assuming that you have access to a community pool. But don't even get me started on biking!
Let's take this piece by piece:
...barring NT of course.
I prefer 3.1 over all but 2k.
So. 2000 > 3.1 > everything else
SE crashed on me daily
SE? Whatever. Anyway, everything else > SE
XP is a tramped up version of 2k
By that I assume that 2000 > XP - which gives us according to your other statements:
2000 > 3.1 > XP > everything else > SE
ME was alive for all of a week.
Er, okay, we'll ignore that for now.
Pre 2k, 95 was the best version...
Hmm. So... 2000 > 95 > 3.1. That conflicts with your first statement, naturally. We now have:
2000 > 95 > 3.1 > XP > everything else > SE
Finally, we end up with 2000 > NT > 95 > 3.1 > XP > everything else > SE.
Weird. And yes, that's a bit nerdy, but consider the thread title. Personally, I find that XP SP2 is a very usable OS, if not my first choice, but apparently that's just me. I certainly wouldn't take 3.1 as a substitute.
ACL's are a filesystem feature, not an OS feature
More to the point, ACLs are an OS feature, not a Kernel feature. To linux-the-kernel they are irrelevant. To linux-the-os they are important, after all you need implementations in the filesystem, the file utils, system libraries, gui file browsers, et cetera, to really implement them fully.
The grandparent was making the point that linux-the-os, in whatever flavor, was less mature than windows-the-os. Personally, I don't see that anything you said goes against that point, other than by pedantically treating linux as a kernel only.
Yeah, just like DVDs weren't really produced until most people had DVD players.
Also, a lot of the energy input is simply sunlight which, especially if we started pulling back some of the Ag subsidies in this countries, would be hitting the fields and not doing anything in particular other than warming dirt. So, yes, growing algae does take more energy in absolute terms than mining coal, but it may well take less non-free energy.
Also, it has the added benefit that you can do a C02+sunlight -> algae -> C02+motion cycle which is a (relatively) closed loop. After you extract a specific unit oil or coal from the ground, you can't do it again for many, many, many years. Tread lightly, and all that, eh?
Database scenario: eSATA is slight better than USB2. Interestingly, though, RAID1 is a lot better than RAID0.
RAID1 is far faster than RAID0 for reads, because you can read from whichever disk has the least activity. Its a lot slower for writes, because you need to wait for the slowest disk to send a confirmation. Although for writes you can often use a middle ground where you wait for the first disk to hardware-confirm a write, and then move on. That way you're safe unless you get a machine crash and a HD crash at exactly the same time before the second disk completes its write. And hey, if that happens, your second disk is probably toast as well.
There are some hardware issues to address (battery life, gprs, storage),
Oh, is that all? Well, sign me up. But add the wi-fi drops to that list.
Hmm. Not too compelling. Maybe v3 will be a great product - if they allow it to get that far. But I fear that the problems with v1 leave them wide open to even a slightly better (if much less expandable) product shutting them down.
At least when it comes to the OS, the license key will be on that stupid Windows sticker somewhere on the machine. This won't apply to everyone, of course, but I bet it applies to at least 3-nines of the people who bring their box to BB to fix. Other apps, like Office, it would be easier to decline.
Besides, as people have noted, most individuals who are installing pirated versions have computers that can't handle Areo Glass anyway. Any computer capable enough will come with Visa pre-installed, whenever that happens to be.
I would have thought that only the pirated copies would come with Visa pre-installed...
And this is exactly why Consumer Reports buys all of the products that they test, anonymously. It only makes sense.
You mean like their latest models that run Windows Mobile?
Yup, AgN03, silver nitrate. And not, as I first thought you said, HN03 (nitric acid). My initial reaction was, "Ooh, what a sadist..."
I know that it is a fact that 1+1=2 (under the common definition of those symbols). Of course, that doesn't prove that if I combine two sets of real-world objects that I'll have a set of 2 real-world objects, but then the a priori is generally less interesting than most people assume.
If you ever do want to have some fun with this, figuring out how you could really say that 1+1=2 with no previous "givens," check out Knuth's (yes, the same Knuth from TAOCP) Surreal Numbers. Interesting stuff.
As a general practice, I NEVER say "Hello" a second time when answering, if it appears that nobody is on the other side of the line. Perhaps it's urban legend, but someone once told me that getting the second "Hello" is the trigger for demon dialers used by telemarketers to hand off to a human.
.4 seconds to transfer the call to an agent along with all of the necessary information on their screen (like the name of whoever they had just called). They would start speaking immediately if it was quiet, since we'd already had one (or some of) "Hello," from the recipient. Two hellos would have gotten us in trouble with our big-name customers.
Yup, urban legend. Many years ago, I worked IT for an ethical telemarketing shop. And by ethical I mean that not only did they maintain their own in-house DNC list, but all of their outbound clients scrubbed against every known DNC list out there. One thing that people don't seem to realize is that telemarketers (the big guys - AT&T, Chase, etc) don't want to piss people off. They also don't want to waste their time; our company was billing something like $20/hr for outbound calling. Time spent calling people who didn't want to talk to them was a waste of money.
When the predicitive dialer calls out, it places somewhat more calls than you have agents. There's a bit of an art to tuning it for different times/locales/etc because you don't want any hangups from now having a free agent, and you don't want any agents without calls. Even back in the early 90s we were detecting tri-tones (disconnected, etc) which was easy, answering machines (which were harder), etc. Once we got a live line, we had something like
Of course, this can change if you're talking about a sweatshop selling quasi-legal products, or Policeman's Ball tickets, or whatever.
PostgreSQL needs a reliable, well documented method for performing live incrememental backups. As in:
1) dump the whole database once a day
2) dump the transaction log every 5 minutes
Eww. I mean, if they don't already have one (and if not, well, ick to that too), then what you need are real incremental log backups so that you're continuously writing out your logs as they fill up rather than every xx minutes. That way, as long as your backup system can process fast enough, you know that "last full backup" + "last incremental backup" + "logs on disk" are always going to contain your full dataset. And ideally, that last portion should be miniscule.
But if they don't have this yet, I'm amazed that people are running mission-critical stuff on them.
Google and Yahoo are both examples of very intensive but very simple applications. I call this "wide but shallow." Lots of data flowing through, but comparitivly basic usage patterns. Take a typical ERP system, on the other hand, and you're suddenly looking at a narrow scale but deep requirement package. I worked for over a decade on a tier-one warehouse management package that had over 750 tables, 3+ million LOC, and some very complicated business logic that still measured its throughput in millions of processed order lines per hour (each one requiring many database calls) the last time I benchmarked it, which was back in 2003 on a 4-way IBM.
Its like saying that since Freightliner is the choice of companies like Wal-Mart, that they'd make the best luxury cars for people looking for ideal interior fit and finish. Same principals, totally different application.