I bought one of the 770s about 2 years ago. Once I bought mine, my wife forced me to go get her one, or I would lose mine.
With the FBReader program we read books all the time. I have a conversion process setup to convert Project Gutenberg text to plucker. The screen is VERY clear.
We also use the Web Browser alot.
I am looking at getting two of the 800s at some point. If the price is right then, I may go ahead and get the 810s. They are worth it to me.
You totally misunderstood his original problem, then gave an even worse response.
He was talking about a CSV file HAD to have the CSV extension for OOo to understand it as CSV. The original poster has a file named.txt and OOo opens it as a Text file in Writer.
If you change the.txt to.csv, then OOo understands what you want it to do, and opens as a CSV file, letting you specify the Character that you want to separate columns by, and the Line Ending character you want to use.
I have been using this feature since about 1.0. Works pretty well.
What I was trying to eluding to is that each individual section would have it's own lawsuit. The code as a whole would lose those pieces that lost their case, and would have to be rewritten.
I am glad it is.;-)
but I have been the Documentation Lead on the OOo project
Oh, and that qualifies you to make legal pronouncements, does it? I don't think so.
In that, I have had to talk about why this is the case for years.
If there is a Legal dispute over the code, we would have to round up EVERYBODY that contributed to the codebase.
Um, no. Where did you get that whacko idea? Oh, right, when everyone who ever contributed code to Linux had to show up in Utah to defend Linux from SCO. Oh, wait...
Are you talking about the SCO case? Were you paying attention? They NEVER showed what code they said had been infringed. EVER... Once they had showed what areas, they said infringed, then there would have been a discovery to see who actually submitted the code. The person that submitted the code of each of the various sections, if not IBM, would have then had to show up in court where the case was filed. Otherwise, the section in question would have been won by SCO.
In that case, then everybody should just place their code under a BSD license, and be done with it. Doing this means your code can NOT be legally defended.
If there is a Legal dispute over the code, we would have to round up EVERYBODY that contributed to the codebase. They would ALL have to travel to Boise, IDAHO, or some place in Egypt, or Australia, or where ever the dispute is filed. Once their, they would EACH have to give a dissertation on what they contributed. If even one person doesn't show up, then you would lose, much like if a football team showed up with not enough players.
How many legal disputes would it take to make sure a person NEVER contributes again?
The GPL and LGPL are licenses, that allow a whole lot of different things to happen, but they are still LEGAL licenses that if you really want people to abide by them, you will have to be able to defend in court.
I am not a lawyer, but I have been the Documentation Lead on the OOo project for the past 6+ years.
1. SUN isn't very forthcoming when it comes to including changes submitted in the main code.
2. The problems of bloat, poor performance, memory utilisation etc. have been inherited from MS Office.
3. The ODF spec is overly long and needlessly complex, to be implemented faithfully.
1. They have a setup pretty similar to the Free Software Foundatation (FSF). This is setup so if there is a legal dispute, Sun can send in their lawyers, and they don't have to round up EVERYBODY to come to court.
Would you spend $3000+ on a plane ticket to travel to Idaho for a Copyright challenge? If there is a legal dispute, that is what would have to happen, or we would lose by default, much like a Football team not showing up with the full team.
2. OOo did NOT inherit its bloat from MS Office. Part of it comes from the many tools used to make sure the software was Cross Platform. MS Office has a lot of bloat with NO Cross Platform features. What is their excuse?
3. ODF is 600 pages. That details the tags needed for EVERY single document type (Writer, Calc, Draw, Impress, and Database) that OOo supports. The spec reuses HTML, MathML, and other pre-existing w3c standards, so implementation is pretty similar to already established standards.
Microsofts OOXML spec is 6000+ pages, and that details their Word, Excel, and Powerpoint specs. MS Access is not included. This document creates new "Standards" for pretty much everything.
Now for the disclaimer. My name is Scott Carr. I am an OOo volunteer. I have worked as the Documentation Lead for almost 7 years now.
Understand. I am giving them the benefit of the doubt for now. As a matter of fact, I think they should be getting paid for their work anyway. SD had to put together alot of pieces in a short amount of time to get this to work.
I will give you the possibility MythTV is difficult to set up... but to use?
Using MythTV is not at all a problem to use.
MythTV is still free. The listings, if you want to deal with screen scrapers, etc, are still free. Once the traffic from the scrapers increases, I am sure TVGuide, and others will change their sites periodically to mess them up.
I prefer to pay $5 a month, to get the schedules. Easy to setup, and not too bad on the price. BTW, the more that sign up to SchedulesDirect, the lower the price will ultimately be.
If you read the site they talk in detail about their plans. $15/3 months with NO renewal, because PayPal doesn't handle renewal changes, and they are VERY positive they will be able to lower the cost once they know what fees and how many people they have.
They are already at the "Break Even" point, now the cost will go down, because they are setup as a not for profit. If they MAKE a profit, there are charges and fees they will have to pay.
The leads on the SchedulesDirect site haven't even made a dime. They don't want to. They are trying to provide a needed service, and are doing a great job at it.
The Schedules Direct site is setup as a Non Profit. They are running it like a co op. The more people sign up, the lower the price for everyone. There express purpose is to get the price down to $20 a year for the service. They have to pay for the schedules from Zap2It, just like everyone else. It is a set fee, and Schedules Direct doesn't know yet exactly how much it is going to cost to provide the service.
I actually "Appreciated" what Zap2It did, and stated several times on their survey they should be charging a little to offset the cost.
I now have my Schedules Direct service setup, with NO loss of schedule. Very seemless. I don't use MythTV because it is Free as in beer, I use it because it is a pretty damn good system for what I want it for. Paying a small amount for something that would take me awhile to program myself, or scrap from a site, makes sense to me.
Actually, if we are talking what they have done in the past:
* The first version will be done in completely open, to show "They" want to work with the community. * The next version will have a couple things that are different, but not necessarily documented, so it is difficult to "Know" exactly what is being done, people will still use it because it is not too problematic * Future versions will continue this trend, until the MS version has completely broken compatibility with other OS systems, and it will be the other companies just aren't cooperating.
It is the beauty of, and the curse of, Open Source. Everyone wants to see their stuff "succeed". With Open Source, the level of Succeeding is different.
If people like it, that is usually enough. With places like Google Code, Sourceforge, and Savanna, the cost of creating a new Open Source project is very low. (Read nothing.)
Dude, don't you know everything in space is made up stuff to temp us from Gods true word? The reason dinosaur fossils exist where they do in the crust is because of the great flood.
The ability of religions to morph 2000 year old text into todays logic is amazing dude. They will take this in stride as well, or ignore.
I have been a Gentoo user for years. It is kind of nice to see the updates come in. I can also have the new version of Pidgin within 15 minutes of it being released.
Granted some of the larger packages can take a bit to compile. That is just the nature of compiling from source. The fact that I can compile from Source, store the binary and install that on another system is REALLY cool.
I've had 3 servers setup before, I only compiled on the faster one. The binary packages were the only things installed on the other 2.
Portage takes some getting used to, but there are several really nice features.
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I bought one of the 770s about 2 years ago. Once I bought mine, my wife forced me to go get her one, or I would lose mine.
With the FBReader program we read books all the time. I have a conversion process setup to convert Project Gutenberg text to plucker. The screen is VERY clear.
We also use the Web Browser alot.
I am looking at getting two of the 800s at some point. If the price is right then, I may go ahead and get the 810s. They are worth it to me.
You totally misunderstood his original problem, then gave an even worse response.
.txt and OOo opens it as a Text file in Writer.
.txt to .csv, then OOo understands what you want it to do, and opens as a CSV file, letting you specify the Character that you want to separate columns by, and the Line Ending character you want to use.
He was talking about a CSV file HAD to have the CSV extension for OOo to understand it as CSV. The original poster has a file named
If you change the
I have been using this feature since about 1.0. Works pretty well.
Did Stanford just buy up some real estate in Nevada?
It probably depends on the country, but...
What I was trying to eluding to is that each individual section would have it's own lawsuit. The code as a whole would lose those pieces that lost their case, and would have to be rewritten.
German courts seem to be a whole lot more sane, as far as I can tell.
They were able to stop SCO from preaching their lies 3+ years ago. Did it happen in the US? no.
I would like to see a Not For Profit occur, definitely. I think it would remove some of the hesitation people have.
That's painfully obvious.
I am glad it is.
Oh, and that qualifies you to make legal pronouncements, does it? I don't think so.
In that, I have had to talk about why this is the case for years. If there is a Legal dispute over the code, we would have to round up EVERYBODY that contributed to the codebase.
Um, no. Where did you get that whacko idea? Oh, right, when everyone who ever contributed code to Linux had to show up in Utah to defend Linux from SCO. Oh, wait...
Are you talking about the SCO case? Were you paying attention? They NEVER showed what code they said had been infringed. EVER... Once they had showed what areas, they said infringed, then there would have been a discovery to see who actually submitted the code. The person that submitted the code of each of the various sections, if not IBM, would have then had to show up in court where the case was filed. Otherwise, the section in question would have been won by SCO.
In that case, then everybody should just place their code under a BSD license, and be done with it. Doing this means your code can NOT be legally defended.
If there is a Legal dispute over the code, we would have to round up EVERYBODY that contributed to the codebase. They would ALL have to travel to Boise, IDAHO, or some place in Egypt, or Australia, or where ever the dispute is filed. Once their, they would EACH have to give a dissertation on what they contributed. If even one person doesn't show up, then you would lose, much like if a football team showed up with not enough players.
How many legal disputes would it take to make sure a person NEVER contributes again?
The GPL and LGPL are licenses, that allow a whole lot of different things to happen, but they are still LEGAL licenses that if you really want people to abide by them, you will have to be able to defend in court.
I am not a lawyer, but I have been the Documentation Lead on the OOo project for the past 6+ years.
2. The problems of bloat, poor performance, memory utilisation etc. have been inherited from MS Office.
3. The ODF spec is overly long and needlessly complex, to be implemented faithfully.
1. They have a setup pretty similar to the Free Software Foundatation (FSF). This is setup so if there is a legal dispute, Sun can send in their lawyers, and they don't have to round up EVERYBODY to come to court.
Would you spend $3000+ on a plane ticket to travel to Idaho for a Copyright challenge? If there is a legal dispute, that is what would have to happen, or we would lose by default, much like a Football team not showing up with the full team.
2. OOo did NOT inherit its bloat from MS Office. Part of it comes from the many tools used to make sure the software was Cross Platform. MS Office has a lot of bloat with NO Cross Platform features. What is their excuse?
3. ODF is 600 pages. That details the tags needed for EVERY single document type (Writer, Calc, Draw, Impress, and Database) that OOo supports. The spec reuses HTML, MathML, and other pre-existing w3c standards, so implementation is pretty similar to already established standards.
Microsofts OOXML spec is 6000+ pages, and that details their Word, Excel, and Powerpoint specs. MS Access is not included. This document creates new "Standards" for pretty much everything.
Now for the disclaimer. My name is Scott Carr. I am an OOo volunteer. I have worked as the Documentation Lead for almost 7 years now.
OpenOffice itself is a trademark in some countries. Thus the OpenOffice.org moniker.
I stated I have lost a couple of members as a result.
They were not "Key" members though. Of course, that wasn't by far the worst part of the article.
The result is definitely NOT what I expected.
BTW, you do NOT give them your PayPal information AT ALL. They link to paypal, and paypal takes care of everything from there.
SchedulesDirect has NO KNOWLEDGE of your paypal information. They just know they got a payment on your account through paypal.
ALSO, the legal stuff was due to items from the Zap2It side of things, AFAICT.
That is what I was trying to convey, guess I failed. ;-)
Thanks for the clarification.
Understand. I am giving them the benefit of the doubt for now. As a matter of fact, I think they should be getting paid for their work anyway. SD had to put together alot of pieces in a short amount of time to get this to work.
I will give you the possibility MythTV is difficult to set up... but to use?
Using MythTV is not at all a problem to use.
MythTV is still free. The listings, if you want to deal with screen scrapers, etc, are still free. Once the traffic from the scrapers increases, I am sure TVGuide, and others will change their sites periodically to mess them up.
I prefer to pay $5 a month, to get the schedules. Easy to setup, and not too bad on the price. BTW, the more that sign up to SchedulesDirect, the lower the price will ultimately be.
If you read the site they talk in detail about their plans. $15/3 months with NO renewal, because PayPal doesn't handle renewal changes, and they are VERY positive they will be able to lower the cost once they know what fees and how many people they have.
They are already at the "Break Even" point, now the cost will go down, because they are setup as a not for profit. If they MAKE a profit, there are charges and fees they will have to pay.
The leads on the SchedulesDirect site haven't even made a dime. They don't want to. They are trying to provide a needed service, and are doing a great job at it.
The Schedules Direct site is setup as a Non Profit. They are running it like a co op. The more people sign up, the lower the price for everyone. There express purpose is to get the price down to $20 a year for the service. They have to pay for the schedules from Zap2It, just like everyone else. It is a set fee, and Schedules Direct doesn't know yet exactly how much it is going to cost to provide the service.
I actually "Appreciated" what Zap2It did, and stated several times on their survey they should be charging a little to offset the cost.
I now have my Schedules Direct service setup, with NO loss of schedule. Very seemless. I don't use MythTV because it is Free as in beer, I use it because it is a pretty damn good system for what I want it for. Paying a small amount for something that would take me awhile to program myself, or scrap from a site, makes sense to me.
Actually, if we are talking what they have done in the past:
* The first version will be done in completely open, to show "They" want to work with the
community.
* The next version will have a couple things that are different, but not necessarily documented, so it is difficult to "Know" exactly what is being done, people will still use it because it is not too problematic
* Future versions will continue this trend, until the MS version has completely broken compatibility with other OS systems, and it will be the other companies just aren't cooperating.
It is the beauty of, and the curse of, Open Source. Everyone wants to see their stuff "succeed". With Open Source, the level of Succeeding is different.
;-)
If people like it, that is usually enough. With places like Google Code, Sourceforge, and Savanna, the cost of creating a new Open Source project is very low. (Read nothing.)
So why not
Nah, the really good software they leave for the landing gear and turning.
;-)
You have pressed the landing gear button, cancel or allow?
You have turned the flight yoke right, cancel or allow?
You have pressed the brake, cancel or allow?
I could go on, but you get the joke. BTW, this is an attempt at humor, any similarity to reality was strictly unintended.
Makes you kind of wish you could ask for the OS License before you board, eh.
Dude, don't you know everything in space is made up stuff to temp us from Gods true word? The reason dinosaur fossils exist where they do in the crust is because of the great flood.
The ability of religions to morph 2000 year old text into todays logic is amazing dude. They will take this in stride as well, or ignore.
Used that as well. The tools in portage are pretty cool.
I have been a Gentoo user for years. It is kind of nice to see the updates come in. I can also have the new version of Pidgin within 15 minutes of it being released.
Granted some of the larger packages can take a bit to compile. That is just the nature of compiling from source. The fact that I can compile from Source, store the binary and install that on another system is REALLY cool.
I've had 3 servers setup before, I only compiled on the faster one. The binary packages were the only things installed on the other 2.
Portage takes some getting used to, but there are several really nice features.
AAC is a lossy format. It is better by far than MP3. Not sure where it compares with OGG.
I did notice changes in sound quality in MP3 at 128 bit. My OGG files done at 128Bit sound fine to me, though. I just wish more players handled OGG.
FLAC is about the only lossless format I know. Not that I know them all, of course.
to $20 for a game with in-game ads as opposed to $60 for a game without in-game ads. Then, I am all for in-game ads.
If the price of the games stay at $60, then I want to know which games has the ads, so I can avoid them.