I think the problem is Microsoft is SO MUCH better at cheer leading than Open Source. We are in the "fight you" stage, and so far Microsoft is appearing to win. Of course, in Microsofts game, they only have to APPEAR to win, so they can get more people to SEE what they need them to see.
People Configure Apache Text files because they want to. There are tools to configure Apache Config via a GUI. Webmin lets you update through a browser.
The options are there. With MS, you are stuck with the GUI, even if you want to do something via a Text file.
From Microsoft, because they WERE an OpenOffice.org user. I am sure Microsoft has been lobbying them as soon as it was announced that they were going to OOo. So all in all, it is a win.
When they have to upgrade to the next version of Office, they can make a big deal of going to OOo again, to get a better price. Now if everyone would go that route.;-) MS would REALLY be hurting against their stock holders.
Based off the article it sounds like they were told EXACTLY what to say when they went back to MS Office.
You are not alone. At some point, I wonder if these companies will realize that they are pushing people that WILL buy their product over to downloading.
The GPL is designed that once I release my software, the playing field will always be as I originally released the software. A company should not be able to take the code, change something and release it without also making the changes they make available.
If this isn't a worry, then the BSD or Apache license would be "good" enough. With those licenses, a company could take the code, remove the right for a user to see the changes by compiling and not giving out the source code.
The idea is that GPL software is always on the same level. A company or dev can take code, make changes, and has to release those changes to their users. Those users are then able to take the code and redistribute it as they see fit.
As soon as they push people, then the people would probably find SharpDevelop, and see that it has more than the Express version and about on par with the full release of studio.
So they wouldn't have a reason to upgrade to the full version, and thereby lose potential revenue.;-)
Mono really isn't that small a project. What make the.Net framework appealing to most is the ability to work with IO, Database, Sockets, Forms, Console, etc. Mono does all this. It doesn't sound like this "Release" from Microsoft is going to really do much.
The Core is not really that much. It is just enough to say they are Cross Platform like Java, but really not enough to allow a dev to run.Net code compiled on Windows on a linux or Mac. Mono is actually alot further along, and actually WANTS the CLR to run Cross Platform.
And I haven't seen MS Office on the device. It runs Java, which is not Microsoft owned as well. Business is addicted to the things so much they are referred to as crackberries. The blackberry blackout was BIG news, so it seems to be prominent.
The guy talks about hacking Magazine games on a Commodore 64 and finding out they suck, so he rewrote them. I think he is of a different caliber higher up based on that more than his use of lingo.
Resorting to murder threats etc, is rather pathetic, I agree.
> This means MS sees me as someone to shake down rather than to make a customer.
You couldn't tell this by the release of Vista, and the soon to be/if not already mandatory Microsoft Genuine Advantage?;-) I work for a Microsoft partner, and it took me 3 days to get a copy of Win2003 installed. I had a valid key, but it only worked with the specific download, that was having issues. I had several copies of MSDN Win2003 that were worthless, because we couldn't get the key to work correctly. Finally, had to use a retail version, just to get my testing done.
* Schools in the US are trying to bring about that it is ok to stop trying to prove something and just say a God did it. * People are trying to claim that the world has "hot" periods even though the one in the last 100 years seems to be "hotter" than any we can prove through history. * I am sure I can add some things about a certain warmonger president, etc, etc * Oh, and people still use IE
Yep, need to get the US to use metric. I am not too sure the US can handle multiply by 10, that would just be too difficult.
The US is the Land Of The Free. I think it is getting closer to "The Land of the Free to not give a damn." (unless it directly affects me, then I'll show you exactly what freedom means.)
I would love this feature. Not for the reason specified here. but because I use an imap folder as a todo list. and a different one for an address book. This feature would make things so much easier.
> Switching to OpenOffice doesn't solve the new Office 2007 file format problem. If > customers/vendors/other departments start sending you Office 2007 documents, > OO isn't going to you help any. Unless OO can read/render Office 2007 > documents reliably, of course. Can it?
OOo will be able to read 2007 files pretty quickly once Office 2007 is released. We already have the 2003 xml formats, so I don't see it taking long at all for an OOo release that does 2007 as well.
Thank you. You stated exactly what I was thinking when I was looking over the list. If you are going to post a list of Geek Women, post a list of ACTUAL geek women.
I really have to wonder what the Return On Investment for these new Copy Protection schemes really is. About the only people these schemes will affect are the ones that copy the dvd's because it can easily be done. What percentage is this?
The people that copy DVDs for a living will find a way to get around ANY protection that is created. They are the ones that tend to hurt the Business Model more than the other group of people anyway.
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COM Interop documentation sucks.
I'll have to look into the Command Line tools, this is the first I have heard of them.
Where exactly is the text file that Underlies the GUI? I thought it was the Registry.
The advertise these so well, I am sure I just missed it somewhere.
I think the problem is Microsoft is SO MUCH better at cheer leading than Open Source. We are in the "fight you" stage, and so far Microsoft is appearing to win. Of course, in Microsofts game, they only have to APPEAR to win, so they can get more people to SEE what they need them to see.
People Configure Apache Text files because they want to. There are tools to configure Apache Config via a GUI. Webmin lets you update through a browser.
The options are there. With MS, you are stuck with the GUI, even if you want to do something via a Text file.
From Microsoft, because they WERE an OpenOffice.org user. I am sure Microsoft has been lobbying them as soon as it was announced that they were going to OOo. So all in all, it is a win.
;-) MS would REALLY be hurting against their stock holders.
When they have to upgrade to the next version of Office, they can make a big deal of going to OOo again, to get a better price. Now if everyone would go that route.
Based off the article it sounds like they were told EXACTLY what to say when they went back to MS Office.
I wish them luck.
You are not alone. At some point, I wonder if these companies will realize that they are pushing people that WILL buy their product over to downloading.
Really?
The GPL is designed that once I release my software, the playing field will always be as I originally released the software. A company should not be able to take the code, change something and release it without also making the changes they make available.
If this isn't a worry, then the BSD or Apache license would be "good" enough. With those licenses, a company could take the code, remove the right for a user to see the changes by compiling and not giving out the source code.
The idea is that GPL software is always on the same level. A company or dev can take code, make changes, and has to release those changes to their users. Those users are then able to take the code and redistribute it as they see fit.
Yes, I have. I was talking about the "Free" version of VS, not the full version.
As soon as they push people, then the people would probably find SharpDevelop, and see that it has more than the Express version and about on par with the full release of studio.
;-)
So they wouldn't have a reason to upgrade to the full version, and thereby lose potential revenue.
Because it is an open source project, and it was something they thought should be done, so did it.
I particularly don't like the GUI installer, but that is also the beauty of OSS, I can choose to use the CLI installer, or even do the steps manually.
They are all options. Choose your poison.
Graphics are good for WOW, but when it comes to the game itself really doesn't play a big roll for me.
If a game has good game play and Story behind it, then it is fun. Graphics are supposed to add to that, not be the game.
Most of the devs in this generation of games seem to have forgotten that.
Mono really isn't that small a project. What make the .Net framework appealing to most is the ability to work with IO, Database, Sockets, Forms, Console, etc. Mono does all this. It doesn't sound like this "Release" from Microsoft is going to really do much.
The Core is not really that much. It is just enough to say they are Cross Platform like Java, but really not enough to allow a dev to run .Net code compiled on Windows on a linux or Mac. Mono is actually alot further along, and actually WANTS the CLR to run Cross Platform.
Keep in mind, I didn't say I owned a BlackBerry, but I have worked on them.
I own a Nokia 770.
I know it can read them. My point was that it was NOT MS Office that was on the system.
And I haven't seen MS Office on the device. It runs Java, which is not Microsoft owned as well. Business is addicted to the things so much they are referred to as crackberries. The blackberry blackout was BIG news, so it seems to be prominent.
I think they are being a little delusional.
The guy talks about hacking Magazine games on a Commodore 64 and finding out they suck, so he rewrote them. I think he is of a different caliber higher up based on that more than his use of lingo.
Resorting to murder threats etc, is rather pathetic, I agree.
;-) I work for a Microsoft partner, and it took me 3 days to get a copy of Win2003 installed. I had a valid key, but it only worked with the specific download, that was having issues. I had several copies of MSDN Win2003 that were worthless, because we couldn't get the key to work correctly. Finally, had to use a retail version, just to get my testing done.
> This means MS sees me as someone to shake down rather than to make a customer.
You couldn't tell this by the release of Vista, and the soon to be/if not already mandatory Microsoft Genuine Advantage?
Is give Sony and the BluRay crowd more advertising slogans.
Pretty low on the list.
* Schools in the US are trying to bring about that it is ok to stop trying to prove something and just say a God did it.
* People are trying to claim that the world has "hot" periods even though the one in the last 100 years seems to be "hotter" than any we can prove through history.
* I am sure I can add some things about a certain warmonger president, etc, etc
* Oh, and people still use IE
Yep, need to get the US to use metric. I am not too sure the US can handle multiply by 10, that would just be too difficult.
The US is the Land Of The Free. I think it is getting closer to "The Land of the Free to not give a damn." (unless it directly affects me, then I'll show you exactly what freedom means.)
If you couldn't tell, some of this was sarcasm.
I would love this feature. Not for the reason specified here. but because I use an imap folder as a todo list. and a different one for an address book. This feature would make things so much easier.
> Switching to OpenOffice doesn't solve the new Office 2007 file format problem. If
> customers/vendors/other departments start sending you Office 2007 documents,
> OO isn't going to you help any. Unless OO can read/render Office 2007
> documents reliably, of course. Can it?
OOo will be able to read 2007 files pretty quickly once Office 2007 is released. We already have the 2003 xml formats, so I don't see it taking long at all for an OOo release that does 2007 as well.
Thank you. You stated exactly what I was thinking when I was looking over the list. If you are going to post a list of Geek Women, post a list of ACTUAL geek women.
At home I run Linux with XFCE4, at work I have to run Microsoft Windows.
With LiteStep, Windows has Virtual Desktops, and a Shortcut system that is very fast. (As well as several other items I use frequently.)
So hopefully Litestep will work on Vista.
I really have to wonder what the Return On Investment for these new Copy Protection schemes really is. About the only people these schemes will affect are the ones that copy the dvd's because it can easily be done. What percentage is this?
The people that copy DVDs for a living will find a way to get around ANY protection that is created. They are the ones that tend to hurt the Business Model more than the other group of people anyway.