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A look at Thunderbird 2.0 Beta
lisah writes "Linux.com has reviewed Mozilla's first beta release of the Thunderbird 2.0 email client and says that, while it 'won't knock your socks off,' there are plenty of reasons to try it out or upgrade from previous versions. The new Thunderbird does away with the limitations of labels and instead allows users to tag emails to their heart's content, in the same vein as Google's GMail. Developers also tossed in a bunch of other useful features like customizable pop-up notification of new email, better search capabilities, and a neat way to navigate through the history of recently read emails. Mozilla developers didn't get everything right, however, since the account setup continues to be something of a headache."
At least it's a painless upgrade, but as a hardcore IMAP user I'm not seeing a ton of usefulness.
As far as I can tell labels don't work at all if you use IMAP, multiple machines, multiple clients, and have more then one folder.
Give a man a fish, he'll eat for a day, but teach a man to phish...
Still piss poor import support. I'd switch from that shitpile Evolution if I could import.
What about hashcash support?
What I'd like to see is automatic grouping of emails into folders. This would be the same as a bunch saved searches, except you wouldn't have to manually make them, they would be created automatically.
The best place to start would be to automatically create saved searches for all emails in your address book. If you wanted to go nuts with it, you could do a saved search of all unique email addresses in your inbox, if they number above a certain threshold. You could then also do some standard groupings that a user could select, like 'Yesterday, this week, this month, last month', common strings in the subject lines, etc.
Computers are useless. They can only give you answers.
-- Pablo Picasso
Can it use the system address book on OS X yet? Please??
When I switched from Eudora to Thunderbird the thing I missed the most was the ability to edit ANY message. Including incomming ones. For example if somebody mailed me something that was unclear I could edit it to add a sentence from myself clearifying. I really like this freedom.
Is it able to import data from other fucking Thunderbird installs yet? I'm tired of having to fiddle around with the profile folder whenever I do a fresh Windows install and need to put my e-mail back.
Come on, guys. How hard can it be to add support for that to the import wizard? It just needs to be a frontend for copying the files! That feature has been lacking from Thunderbird and its ancestors for, like, ever.
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So... is the pop-up notifier for new e-mail as useless as the current system tray "new mail" icon from Thunderbird 1.5?
You see, there's only a handful of things that I want to be notified for immediately. And those things can be only identified via rules. (From a particular domain, or with a specific subject line.) Preferably *after* the anti-spam filters have cleaned the bogus messages out of the way (sometimes domains are spoofed).
Which, sadly, is one thing that Outlook rules does properly where Thunderbird 1.5.x (and older) has failed at.
Does any one know what happened to message tabs. Its a feature I would really like as I become sick of having to re-find a message if I want to check another at the same time. I saw this proposed at some stage and thought it was going to be a 2.0 feature but there is no comments on it in the review. Did it get pushed back to 3.0?
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If you've ever used SpamBayes for MS Outlook, you'll understand why bayesian analysis engines need to have some sort of grey area instead of just a binary spam / ham bit. With SpamBayes in MS Outlook, I have (3) results after spam processing:
"ham" - Messages which scored below a rather low value (10?) and are considered non-spam. Those messages get left alone in whatever folder they were found in.
"unsure" - Anything that falls in the middle gets moved to a "Maybe Junk" folder. For the most part, this stuff is spam, but the bayesian engine isn't quite sure. So it's worth checking for false positives (which are rare, but can happen until the engine is trained).
"spam" - Stuff in the spam folder scored so high on the bayesian value that it's almost certainly spam. The odds of finding a false positive in this folder are extremely low so I never bother looking.
Now for the real magic of SpamBayes... it remembers where a message was when it was flagged as "unsure" or "spam". If you find a message that was mis-tagged, you can tell SpamBayes that it made a mistake and it will add the message to its ham corpus and move the message back where it belongs.
(That and intelligent message notification are the two things that drive me nutz with Thunderbird 1.5 and prevent me from switching over entirely.)
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The fact that after all this time Thunderbird STILL makes it difficult to use more than one SMTP server is astonishing. The vast majority of e-mail systems will only allow their own accounts to traverse the SMTP server, and most spam filtering will similarly junk e-mail that doesn't match up. Even if the developers were somehow ignorant of this fact, users have been requesting it heatedly since pre-1.0. Now we're at 2.0 and they still can't get something this simple right. Oh sure, Thunderbird technically supports multple SMTP servers, but it makes it about as difficult to setup as it possibly can.
This is disturbing for three reasons:
1) It hinders adoption by making a common feature odious to use
2) It shows a complete lack of attentiveness by the developers to user concerns/requests
3) It diminishes the Mozilla/Firefox brand by not living up to the standards set by those programs
I'd love to use it - especially on Windows as an alternative to Outlook Express - but until it can properly support e-mail accounts and show some responsiveness to its users, I'm not going to bother with it.
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I have to say, it looks awesome! Any idea when we can get our hands on it?
Have they finally fixed the UI responsiveness issue? In Thunderbird 1.5, I find that the message pane is nigh unusable if Thunderbird is trying to retrieve mail in the background. Then there's the issue that Thunderbird gets a bit slow when dealing with folders with a few thousand messages (such as a popular mailing list where you keep a year's worth of posts for easy reference).
Wolde you bothe eate your cake, and have your cake?
In the last few years the browser platform has matured and after a long period of it being awkful, I'm content with the current state of things. But I feel that email has not improved at all over the last ten years. The only major change has been the rise of spam - a step backwards.
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Some of the comments below will link to my lack of skills in areas of system administration and I encourage replies to those issues as much as any other feedback. Better yet - write a howtoforge article describing how to set such a system up under debian stable
My needs for an email system are:
- data should be stored on the server (centralised backup, provision for web mail when you need it, ability to have an administrator control it, access from multiple hosts)
- server-side spam filtering which can also take easily feedback from the client on what proved to not be spam, or what was and was missed.
- server-side addressbook
- should deal only with plain text - non plain text should be flattened to plain text. It would be nice to automatically bounce office files with a message to tell the person to send stuff as PDF or plain text.
- effective searching
- very responsive client for reading mail
- very responsive client for writing mail
- effective communication between client and server that doesn't require the user to wait
I don't really see how thunderbird's design lends itself to fitting into an infrastructure that meets those requirements.
Perhaps my biggest problem with Thunderbird and all mail clients that I've encountered is that IMAP proves to be inadequate. Communicating with an email server over IMAP makes for a klunky experience (*particularly* over a latent connection), and it shouldn't need to be this way. Perhaps IMAP is a bad fit for the task.
Time and time again we see people trying to build a 'Microsoft Word killer' without them ever stopping to think about whether a monolithic word processor is even a good idea (I suggest that it's not). Similarly, Thunderbird strikes me as a really good attempt at producing a product idea that is fundamentally flawed. We should be working to phase out monolithic email clients.
Surely all that should be required of a good client is this:
- Keep the client's disk archive of the mailbox synchronised with the server so that searching is easy, and do so inobtrusively (all the IMAP clients I've used are quite obtrusive and brittle as the number of possible connections rises), but reflect changes to the client back on the server (I don't think fetchmail does this)
- Composer that has access to the server's addressbook and sent folder and has a spellchecker
- Email viewer
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I'm a web developer... and maintain hundreds of sites.
So, if you can imagine... even with asking people to at least let me know what site is theirs, I have hundreds of messages with the Subject "Web Update" or "Website"
I would simply like the ability to edit the subject line of messages I receive for organizational purposes.
That would be the "Killer" feature for me...
Another novelty feature that could be useful is a Calendar view of messages, so I could graphically see when each message arrived and prioritize it appropriately.
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never seems to find my emails right
I looked at Thunderbird a couple of times to see what it had to offer. I always end up going back to Sylpheed. Sylpheed has its own little problems, but overall is a good mail client. I use it with IMAP over SSL and SMTP Auth with Starttls to my home server, and also take advantage of its multiple account capability to use as a dual mail client at work (I'm the mail admin, so the SMTP servers forward to a local mailbox on the linux box on my desk ... local mailboxes is one thing that thunderbird continually fails to get right). I have Sylpheed on 2 different machines at home, my work machine, and as a windoze portable app (nothing special to do there, it just works, point it to a config file on the USB key). Coupled with IMAP this works great for me.
From what I've read about Thunderbird, the only options for whitelisting (passing to inbox without spam filtering) are your whole address book, or everyone that you've ever sent email to. Are there any plans to make it more flexible than that? Here are some things that I can think of that would be handy. Sorry if any are already included -- I can't play with Thunderbird until I upgrade to GTK2 (soon):
1) Ability to easily whitelist all email coming from a particular domain. This would ensure that you get all emails from a client company, not just one individual. Perhaps there could be a preferences setting that allows you to indicate that you want to be prompted each time you send an email to a new domain to see whether the whole domain should be whitelisted or just the recipient. I assume I could create a mail rule to filter a domain, as I currently do with Netscape Communicator, but that is pretty inconvenient.
2) Ability to easily whitelist an address without putting it in your address book or sending mail to it, e.g. by simply clicking a button while viewing a message from the address. For example, if I receive an emailed newsletter that I requested, it would be nice to whitelist it without cluttering my address book.
3) Are emails sent by someone on the whitelist visually differentiated from other emails in some way, such as coloring the sender name differently? That could make it easier to differentiate between valid emails and any spams that slip through the filter.
Still hard to beat mutt--I can use it over an SSH connection and it's much more responsive than any GUI or web-based mail client. It's also insanely configurable.
When I first started using it at the office, I used to joke that when it came to Word document attachments, in the time that it took an Outlook/Netscape user to open the document in Word, I was able to open the document in catdoc, skim through, confirm that the document was not worth reading and delete the message.
What I'd like to see is labels working with the tags from Gmail. Of course, this isn't possible because Google won't use IMAP and doesn't include the tags in the message headers...
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Is it just me or does the included Address Book totally suck? (Thunderbird v1.5.0.wtv, on Kubuntu Edgy). I can't keep mail addresses in the lists i create, (they all go to the default, show-all pane) and i can't drag them to wherever i wants. Also, why does the initial pane show ALL mails and ALL lists? The whole point of creating sublists is so that i don't have to look at a total mess of a contact list. Make no mistake, i like the mail client, but if i cant keep an organized contact list, i'm looking elsewhere. Also, someone described some SMTP problems, and it seems they don't listen much to people. Today i'll try out Kontact, and see where it's PIM gets me.
In outlook I can link to a specific email using a URL from, say, a personal wiki. Is there any protocol to do this in Thunderbird? So that by clicking on a link in a Wiki, it would open up a specific email? That is my #1 request!
It was the gig/jpg bug that did it for me. But then, evolution is also better integrated into Gnome so I can now access my contacts, calendars in other applications as well.
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So the comments here are turning into a bit of a "Email Client Wishlist" so I figure I'll throw my own two cents in...
I'd love to see a "smart" email client that that can analyze incoming mail, strip quoted text, and turn the emails into a threaded forum-like format. The "top-reply" is simply the way everyone [I exchange mail with] seems to go these days, and nothing sucks more than having to read a forwarded email bottom-to-top.
Does something like this (or something that makes achieving this easier) exist?
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Now if only I could see a Gmail conversation or thread like view so all my sent emails and incoming emails are in one location. That would be just swell!
usable calendar address books, able to past multiple emails into send line sperated by semicolons, store the data in some comprehensible NON unix format so it can be backdup in an intellignet manner (lets not go further here, it sucks so bad)find function for people not nerd geeks, .....
evolution has done this quite well for some time.
inboxes separated into accounts, and when sending, defaults to the currently selected account, and provides a dropdown list in the from: field while you compose.
yet another reason to run linux on your desktop imho.
( though the novell shenanigans of late are making me a little nervous )
I've had it one hour and it crashed already. Not that outlook is any better.
One lovely little thing about Outlook I've always thought useful though was the English language date parser in the "Meeting Request" form -- you know, where you can type in "two years from yesterday" and it parses it to the correct date? Bloaty but useful, if you remember it's there. (Anyone willing to tackle that one? LoL...)
Some of the best features in Outlook are buried -- VBA forms, because they don't show up in the preview pane (which many folk use in preference to opening the message), Journalling, because not all of us have the discipline or inclination to account for our time that tightly (and those who need it want to bill directly, too) and the email-addressable public folder (ES only) with it's extended rule set is nice.
Trouble is, of course, these features aren't really used. Some of this is just bad tuning, but a lot of it is just streamlined out of our day because the return on effort is bad.
A lot of brainy people got together and dumped features in bulk into Outlook, and the result is just too many features -- features that consume eyeball space, that aren't used and just get in the way. UI Clutter can be a real pain when you sit in front of a screen all day.
If people want mail and calendaring, no point in buying Outlook just for that. And even in sophisticated corporate environments, the niche features just don't get used.
Wasn't there a recent thread where folks said they're not interested in technology any more, they just want things to work? I really like simple, rugged messaging, and I think the appeal of Thunderbird for the masses is that it really does just one thing very well, and doesn't try to be a games console or a file explorer too. Not everybody likes to keep ten different rule sets in their head when they open a program. To be anywhere near successful, the next generation of Outlook should divest itself of all that nichy stuff. Any fool with a dollar can buy air time, but simple ideas have broader appeal, because not all users are nerds anymore. Microsoft's marketing should spend less on advertising and more on learning what the non-nerds really want to use.
Thanks for the rant. T-bird rules, ok?
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One of my favorite features of Mac OS X's Mail.app is the meta-inbox folder, a folder that contains the inboxes of all accounts set up in the client. I have four IMAP accounts and I wish I didn't have to switch between them to read each of them. Mail.app lets me read (and search) all of my mail in one place.
Doesn't Evolution support IMAP? And if so, can't you easily switch over by setting up an IMAP server somewhere?
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I use Icedove, you insensitive clods!
I'm with you on message notification, but it's not a huge issue for me -- I just check it frequently on my (Linux) desktop, and watch the Dock icon on my Powerbook. But if you know of a better Linux email client I could be using, I'm listening -- my solution works with ANY IMAP client. Read on...
I use bogofilter, but it's the same thing: spam, unsure, and everywhere else.
Advantages:
- Filters on the server, as messages come in.
- All the features you're talking about, from any IMAP client.
Disadvantages:
- Linux only (uses inotify to detect messages dropped to the "spam" folder)
- Any other filters (LKML goes here, girlfriend's stuff goes here) must be implemented on the server, currently Maildrop only.
- Filters on the server. If you have limited server resources, this may be a problem.
- Could conceivably lose mail during a retrain, due to the (admittedly stupid) way in which I handle retrains.
- While it works on any client, no client that I know of has decent keyboard shortcuts to help me out.
Basically, when a message comes in, it goes through bogofilter first, then maildrop. Maildrop looks for a bogofilter header, and drops it in the "spam" or "unsure" folder when it finds it. Otherwise, it goes to the rest of my maildrop rules, which mostly sort things into folders by mailing list.
There are also retrain folders: Retrain as spam/innocent. When a message is dragged to retrain/spam, it's retrained as spam and dumped in the spam folder. When it's dragged to retrain/innocent, it's retrained as innocent, with an extra header added (I think it's a bogofilter commandline option) to specify that it was reclassified (as it still might have a score of spam), and then is sent through the maildrop filters again. The maildrop filters look for that retrain flag, so it's guaranteed not to end up in spam this time, and gets sorted according to mailing list rules, etc.
This is where inotify comes in -- which means it MUST be a Linux server for this to work. As soon as the message appears in that folder, maildir structure guarantees it's just been rename'd in, so it's complete and safe to touch. Therefore, I can immediately retrain stuff, meaning the wait is less than a second, but I don't have to poll.
Boring implementation details follow:
The one major design bug is that I don't really know how to deal with maildir folders, so when I see a message appear in one of the retrain folders, I immediately open it, then unlink the file, to prevent Thunderbird or my own script from touching it until I finish piping it through the retrain process. I probably should be putting it in some temporary place, and indeed, maildir folders do have a "tmp" dir, but I simply don't know how to use it properly -- and I would have to rename it where I'm unlinking now. Basically, if the rename/unlink succeeds, it means I've beat the client to it. But if it fails, it means the client has done that stupid thing it does where the message is "delivered" to the folder as new, then the client marks it as read, which moves it from the "new" to the "cur" dir within that maildir.
I suppose I could build this into the IMAP server, but I like how this solution has already been ported from Exim/Courier-IMAP to Postfix/BincIMAP. I could write it as an IMAP proxy, but that's both more complicated and potentially slows down operation other than retrains -- an IMAP proxy would have to intercept and parse every line, whereas I only get to notice when an actual file is created in the retrain dir, and until that happens, my script does absolutely nothing.
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At work using Outlook, I edit inbound messages all the time to add a quick note to the top or whatever. E.g., drag a message to my "to do" folder and turn it into a note page for the task. I really miss this at home. So much so that I would switch (back) to Outlook at home, if it would learn to use IMAP better.
Yes, this allows one to make an inbound message look different than what you received, but that's the point. If you want to prove that you didn't write what is in someone else's mailbox, sign everything with PGP. Email is insecure, we might as well make it easier to use... besides, how hard is it to tag a message as modified? Isn't that what custom header tags are for?
Set up a rule to automatically bounce the message with a friendly reminder that you need to know which site is theirs, so you can sort their mail accordingly.
As for calendar, I guess if graphics float your boat... I mean, they're already sorted by date by default.
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I installed Google Desktop a while back. It's great for searching IMAP mail... anyway, another benefit is that it does a little pop-up, similar to newer Outlook installs. My only gripe is that it does it pre-Spam filter...
Thunderbird has a couple of very nice new features:
1. Threaded messages with your replies included in the thread! This alone is going to may 2.0 better
2. New filter rules: forward and reply with template!
3. A little better speed...
Now all we need to make thunderbird closer to perfect:
1. A way to view conversation by recipient.
2. Better template managemetn
3. something that can identify non-spam commercial email and newsletters and get them out of the inbox.
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Somebody give me a free hotmail client already!!!!!
If Mozilla teamed up with Google. And did two things I would drop my hotmail account for my gmail account and use Thunderbird.
1. have Thunderbird able to work as a client for GMail.
2. convince Google to fix GoogleTalk so that it is more of a competitor. (NO FILESHARING????)
One feature that Outlook has right is its multi-line header display, where you get sender and date on one line and subject on the next. That way, you can have a "wide" (group-headers-mail text) display on a non-widescreen monitor. Even the gmail method is better than the current Thunderbird one, which hasnt changed since the first graphical clients.
It is a bit like tabs I think. You cant imagine how you lived without it once you get used to it.
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I've used Thunderbird for years before I found out that if you delete a message, it doesn't get deleted at all, but is just made invisible. It doesn't delete it until you 'compact your folders'. There's an option in the settings to have it do that automatically. I find this behaviour annoying, because if you don't know that you have to compact your folders (and which non-computer-savvy user does know that?) you will be left with an ever-growing, huge mail folder. I didn't discover this until my backup script started to take a long time copying my mail folders. I haven't seen this 'feature' in any other email client I've used. I hope the Mozilla team will correct this in the future.
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So does this mean we might start seeing mail notifications actually pop up under Linux now?
(clue: The checkbox is there but has been broken for years)
Maybe they'll fix the regression that saw the New Folder button in the Create New Filter dialog removed too.
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Has 2.0 finally implemented outgoing message filtering, so they can be moved to a particular folder automatically?
I never understood why I could tell TB to move a message from John Doe to a folder named "Friday Night Booze", but a reply *to* John Doe ends up in the old "Sent" folder so I have to remember to move it manually if I want to keep the entire conversation in one place.
Also, what about threading? When I tried TB 1.0.x, it used to thread by subject, which was basically unusable. If I got an e-mail from John Doe with the subject "Hey, man", it was going to enter a thread with the same subject from maybe a year ago, 500 threads up.
I'm astonished nobody mentioned SeaMonkey/Mail so far. I always though Slashdot commenters are power users which IMO better use SM/Mail than TB. Most of the complains about TB are fixed and several important features are included. And MozBackup helps with moving profiles and mails back and fore. So instead of complaining why not simply switch to SeaMonkey?
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I have mail from several .psts and other things I'd like to import. Problem is, I have some mail that dupes over different stores.
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Has anyone found a way to get TBird to search for duplicates and then delete extras?
I'd be happy to import into folder trees called pst1, pst2, etc., then tell it to delete any dupes copied in pst3, then search and delete for any copies in pst2, etc., so that I'm left with just one of each that I can then sort properly into my main tree. But the functionality isn't there. Someone wanna write a plugin?
Thunderbird 1.5 doesn't delete collapsed threads fully unless individually clicked, which makes keeping tabs on high volume mailing lists painful. Has TB2 got this right yet?
Red to red, black to black. Switch it on, but stand well back.
I use thunderbird - but there was one feature in KMail that saved my life on a couple of times - basically it would scan your email for references like "please find the attached file" (probably just the word attached rather than the whole phrase) but I've lost count of the number of times I have written an email and forgotten to attach a file. KMail would intercept the email send process and ask if you meant to attach a file - giving you a second chance to make the attachment.
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Does thunderbird 2 have this great feature? (here's where someone tells me its been in Thunderbird 1 for years!
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It's pretty simple to make it obvious what's changed and what's original.
I use Lotus Notes at work. For all its problems, this is a much-appreciated feature (intended or otherwise), which I use frequently. In that app, it logs the name of the last signer (saved-by), but even so I write "Mynick: Mynotes" in italics.
"Good news, everyone!"
Wow, except for the 'bounce non-text files' part, what you describe is absolutely spot on. Couldn't have said it better meself.
Unfortunately, I also agree that IMAP may be simply too archaic to support this kind of usage. Perhaps a new protocol is needed, but what really stands out from between the lines is a glorified webmail system. When viewed critically, the only thing that actually needs to be at the local client is, um, the display and keyboard. No reason to not keep everything (data, analysis/processing, and traffic) on the server; naturally excepting attachment downloads.
Man, we're going back to the client/server days in the future, I just know it. ^_^
"Good news, everyone!"
I really do not understand how someone can take screenshots of an e-mail application and then scrambles 90% of the look and feel of the actual application.
And just because the editor seems to be too lazy to enter some test content.
That is like doing a test of a new BMW and only showing you how the color of the car looks like, but omitting the rest.
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Haven't used it myself, but would this do the trick? https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/956/
Make sure you say it's the SpamBayes plugin, though, because there's also the standalone server. :)
I used to use this in conjunction with another plugin for Outlook that would let me automatically send all selected messages to an address list... so I'd go to my spam folder, select everything, click the button, and it would auto-send to Spamcop and uce@ftc.gov (back when that was the right email for that). Then I'd delete and be done with them, at least until I had to go confirm at Spamcop
Dang, that's been out for ages, and I never saw it before.
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Dunno, I'll try it... after backing up my mail yet again, I guess
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supports ldap :)
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Use a message filter of "From" "is" "*gmail address*"
and an action of "Move message to" "Sent on Local Folders"
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I haven't tried it yet but all I want is to be able to save messages by dragging them to my desktop or a folder, I can in Outlook Express but not Thunderbird. It seems like an odd thing not to be able to do.
This is my biggest gripe with Thunderbird. If someone sends me three 1 MB attachments, it forces me to download all three just to see the message. Then, when I go to save the attachment... it downloads all of them again just to save the file!
I'm currently using Evolution to read my work email because the powers that be refuse to turn
on IMAP support on the Exchange server.
Could I use the new Thunderbird to do this?
*sigh* back to work...
The Eudora feature that I really miss is being able to select a number of messages and have the app figure out an appropriate filter expression for the selection. I had thought of putting this together as an addon myself, but get quickly lost in how to code addons for Thunderbird.
I put this product on my machine as an upgrade to the previous edition, and the installation went flawlessly. The only obvious difference is the appearance of the new toolbar. I think I like it, but it's hard to see much difference after using all of the previous incarnations of the T-bird product!
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It works great !
:-(
But now any idea how do I change back ?
I checked the Thunderbird support pages but it seems like this 'G' shortcut is not documented there
Now I feel really stupid for that...
Thanks for your help !
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