Actually, you must assert your right...
http://www.bris.ac.uk/research/ip/copyright.html
"The author can assert his moral right to be identified as the author of a work - the author must assert this right, it is not automatic. "
oh yeah, I forgot to address the performance...
Considering that the average production machine is running out of the box Enterprise 3, I really doubt that a recompile of the kernel would boost performance noticably. On a P3 450 with 128 MB running in your grandmas closet I agree that you will notice a difference. But to adress whether it is worthwhile? Not ! Considering your time as a cost and the 0.03% performance boost on serious systems... nope, sorry you haven't convinced me...
Very true very true..
However, in a production environment I use machines that are supported by the vendor. I rarely require hardware that is not on RedHat's supported list. In fact with most hardware vendors I would prefer to order the machine pre-installed and stay within the supported framework. So again, no REAL excuse for recompiling...
Actually I find that most people who insist on compiling a kernel, whatever flavour they run, are overdoing it. I mean really, do you know more about the kernel than the RedHat Kernel team? I don't.. Not that compiling kernels is rocket science but I cannot find a good excuse for recompiling (for production machines) anyway!
I am more than happy to trust RedHat or SuSE for that matter on kernel binaries. As for this discussion about the kernel security, I am sure that there will be mroe issues. The only 100% secure system is one that is turned off and locked in a vault. And for the MS fans who are waving their fingers, enjoy, I for one consider this flaw to be limited in threat, it's rather obscure and will not exploitable on a majority of properly hardened servers. Go ahead and try it, it's actually a pig to make work and the unix user space must have all the goodies present for it to work. Anyone with a user account on my systems is rather locked down into a context rights management.. uh yeah they call that SELinux in kernel 2.6... so really this threat is very limited and obscure.
I am convinced that responsible vendors will:
1. Advise proper hardening of systems. 2. Advise enabling and implementing SELinux in 2.6 Kernels 3. Find and implement a solution to the flaw swiftly.
The sad thing is that in the mail list of stinkthecret.. um thinksecret the details of the machine were elaborated upon to such detail that it is undoubtedly a case of industrial espionage. Details on the construction and design... I have to say that, being a stinkthecret reader nonetheless, Apple has a point. I personally would not divulge that level of detail about a product on a internet community and I hope the guilty party is happy with the result.
Of course lawsuits are bad press and one can question the efficacity of such a lawsuit but most likely it will be about strong-arming the community maintainers into divulging their sources so that Apple can take measures against the staff members who broke their agreement.
I don't believe for one second that Apple's Legal dept. has a grudge or is out to stiffle the community which so much loves the products their company produces.
Actually I have been using Mac OS X now for over a week since I dumped the last windows machine..
I have also been running as root.. it works just fine.. you just need to enable the account..
http://noether.vassar.edu/~myers/help/apple/Enable Root.html
I care about the idealogical bents of Richard Stallman. I am a consumer and a producer. Please don't speak in my place, especially without my permission.
I shall refrain from speaking in your place, albeit I had beans yesterday...
Actually.. i think that MS only has a future if it can get out of the os business... if they would focus on providing productivity software they might survive. If they cling to the OS market they will inevitably be surpassed by the next best thing... it's a hog cycle really, and the hog is now Linux.
And if you think bacteria are scary.. just think about the folks that will see voyager and pioneer whizz by! I mean we just advertize our planet and then one "whoops" along comes the mother of all motherships and then what? Ahh... John Wayne is not dead, you see, he's frozen! And by then we'll have found a cure for cancer and we'll thaw out the Duke!
Now he's gonna be pretty pissed off, you see, have you ever taken a cold shower? Well multiply that by ten thousand times and that's how pissed off the Duke's gonna be.....
So grab a case of whiskey and drive down to Texas and...
yep, I'm an asshole....
It would thus have to be a cell antenae inside the plane that relays the data to a satellite station and hence the access would be just as expensive as the current in-flight satphones... except your consuming your own battery...
I would be more interested to see wi-fi access on board going through sat.. that is worth soemthing to me as I could continue to browse slashdot whilst careeering over the atlantic...
Well I think it safe to assume that workstation is going nowhere, as you say, they don't even promote it in the core market. Now that's a real good reason NOT to choose it. Don't get me wrong, I am not dissing RedHat in general, I just honestly think that there are better options than a quasi unsupported and unpromoted product that competes with itself from shelf to website...
It just smells of "duh" factor..
I am in Europe and I have yet to see it.. What I do see alot is SuSE and Mandrake. I run Fedora though and I am quite happy with it.. that is untill I get my new Powerbook, then it's YellowDog for me..
And how is this relevant?
Workstation is a handicapped lame distro which they hardly support at all...
Sorry nice try but for your desktop go for Fedora or SuSE!
I think that the time scales involved here suggest your reasoning may not be far reaching enough to allow for the possibilities of a darwinist strategy in the species.
Well there are countires in western europe where enrolling in University gets you, free of charge, a file with State Security.. yep knowledge is power and in "old europe" we still have grey grisslies in the basement need to know...
Yeah, I know what you mean.. I ahve blacklisted entire netblocks even countries from my servers manually over the years, it is better now with better "intelligent" content filters sitting on the mailstore but still... I agree that it is too little too late but I can only hope that IETF or whoever can come up with a system in which getting blacklisted means something (like having your dns records suspended/redirected to a "in the corner location" or so..)
Sure and you both are correct, however, being pragmatic, joe user doesn't know or understand this and the problem exists that "Firefox" and "Mozilla" are known as quasi brandnames, and not as designations of technologies or projects, hence, a household name is worth a significant amount in marketing potential. I don't deny or underestimate the marketing potential of the Netscape name, nor the origins of the Mozilla project, I just mean to intimate at the, pragmatic, real-world situation. Again, don't get me wrong, I am not anti-netscape, I am just critical of things happening.
Indeed, this has a danger of setting a precedent that abuse is to fought with more abuse. This is of course not the solution. Such a screen saver would be more helpfull if it analysed and gathered information about the origins of spam and then assisted in the systematic shutdown or firewalling of abusers, but that is just mho...
Dont get me wrong, I am happy to see Netscape in the picture... the only question I have is whether having a firefox fork is such a good thing. I mean, isn't this just going to split up the market again? Just as Firefox was getting mainstream approval and implementation we are now to see Netscape compete with it's mother? I fail to see this as a good thing to thwart the juggernaut but maybe that's just me...
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Actually, you must assert your right... http://www.bris.ac.uk/research/ip/copyright.html "The author can assert his moral right to be identified as the author of a work - the author must assert this right, it is not automatic. "
Indeed this is interesting considering that if you claim to own the copyright by stating
(c) DenDave 2005
Then it is as such
Perhaps someone has a mirror of the speech ?
oh yeah, I forgot to address the performance... Considering that the average production machine is running out of the box Enterprise 3, I really doubt that a recompile of the kernel would boost performance noticably. On a P3 450 with 128 MB running in your grandmas closet I agree that you will notice a difference. But to adress whether it is worthwhile? Not ! Considering your time as a cost and the 0.03% performance boost on serious systems... nope, sorry you haven't convinced me...
Very true very true.. However, in a production environment I use machines that are supported by the vendor. I rarely require hardware that is not on RedHat's supported list. In fact with most hardware vendors I would prefer to order the machine pre-installed and stay within the supported framework. So again, no REAL excuse for recompiling...
Actually I find that most people who insist on compiling a kernel, whatever flavour they run, are overdoing it. I mean really, do you know more about the kernel than the RedHat Kernel team? I don't.. Not that compiling kernels is rocket science but I cannot find a good excuse for recompiling (for production machines) anyway!
... so really this threat is very limited and obscure.
I am more than happy to trust RedHat or SuSE for that matter on kernel binaries. As for this discussion about the kernel security, I am sure that there will be mroe issues. The only 100% secure system is one that is turned off and locked in a vault. And for the MS fans who are waving their fingers, enjoy, I for one consider this flaw to be limited in threat, it's rather obscure and will not exploitable on a majority of properly hardened servers. Go ahead and try it, it's actually a pig to make work and the unix user space must have all the goodies present for it to work. Anyone with a user account on my systems is rather locked down into a context rights management.. uh yeah they call that SELinux in kernel 2.6
I am convinced that responsible vendors will:
1. Advise proper hardening of systems.
2. Advise enabling and implementing SELinux in 2.6 Kernels
3. Find and implement a solution to the flaw swiftly.
who said anything about a gui? Oh.. I guess Midnight Commander qualifies as a gui... LOL!
The sad thing is that in the mail list of stinkthecret.. um thinksecret the details of the machine were elaborated upon to such detail that it is undoubtedly a case of industrial espionage. Details on the construction and design... I have to say that, being a stinkthecret reader nonetheless, Apple has a point. I personally would not divulge that level of detail about a product on a internet community and I hope the guilty party is happy with the result.
Of course lawsuits are bad press and one can question the efficacity of such a lawsuit but most likely it will be about strong-arming the community maintainers into divulging their sources so that Apple can take measures against the staff members who broke their agreement.
I don't believe for one second that Apple's Legal dept. has a grudge or is out to stiffle the community which so much loves the products their company produces.
Stinking differently every day...
Actually I have been using Mac OS X now for over a week since I dumped the last windows machine.. I have also been running as root.. it works just fine.. you just need to enable the account.. http://noether.vassar.edu/~myers/help/apple/Enable Root.html
I care about the idealogical bents of Richard Stallman. I am a consumer and a producer. Please don't speak in my place, especially without my permission. I shall refrain from speaking in your place, albeit I had beans yesterday...
yerp eet ees...
Actually.. i think that MS only has a future if it can get out of the os business... if they would focus on providing productivity software they might survive. If they cling to the OS market they will inevitably be surpassed by the next best thing... it's a hog cycle really, and the hog is now Linux.
http://informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtm
has some of the better comments from the bigwigs at Redmond..
My favourite being:
And if you think bacteria are scary.. just think about the folks that will see voyager and pioneer whizz by! I mean we just advertize our planet and then one "whoops" along comes the mother of all motherships and then what? Ahh... John Wayne is not dead, you see, he's frozen! And by then we'll have found a cure for cancer and we'll thaw out the Duke! Now he's gonna be pretty pissed off, you see, have you ever taken a cold shower? Well multiply that by ten thousand times and that's how pissed off the Duke's gonna be..... So grab a case of whiskey and drive down to Texas and... yep, I'm an asshole....
It would thus have to be a cell antenae inside the plane that relays the data to a satellite station and hence the access would be just as expensive as the current in-flight satphones... except your consuming your own battery...
I would be more interested to see wi-fi access on board going through sat.. that is worth soemthing to me as I could continue to browse slashdot whilst careeering over the atlantic...
Gee I though Gumsticks were already mainstream... oh.. but of course http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/wlg/4552
these thingys aren't from Redmond...
dang it.. too late...
Well I think it safe to assume that workstation is going nowhere, as you say, they don't even promote it in the core market. Now that's a real good reason NOT to choose it. Don't get me wrong, I am not dissing RedHat in general, I just honestly think that there are better options than a quasi unsupported and unpromoted product that competes with itself from shelf to website... It just smells of "duh" factor.. I am in Europe and I have yet to see it.. What I do see alot is SuSE and Mandrake. I run Fedora though and I am quite happy with it.. that is untill I get my new Powerbook, then it's YellowDog for me..
And how is this relevant? Workstation is a handicapped lame distro which they hardly support at all... Sorry nice try but for your desktop go for Fedora or SuSE!
I think that the time scales involved here suggest your reasoning may not be far reaching enough to allow for the possibilities of a darwinist strategy in the species.
Well there are countires in western europe where enrolling in University gets you, free of charge, a file with State Security.. yep knowledge is power and in "old europe" we still have grey grisslies in the basement need to know...
Yeah, I know what you mean.. I ahve blacklisted entire netblocks even countries from my servers manually over the years, it is better now with better "intelligent" content filters sitting on the mailstore but still... I agree that it is too little too late but I can only hope that IETF or whoever can come up with a system in which getting blacklisted means something (like having your dns records suspended/redirected to a "in the corner location" or so..)
Sure and you both are correct, however, being pragmatic, joe user doesn't know or understand this and the problem exists that "Firefox" and "Mozilla" are known as quasi brandnames, and not as designations of technologies or projects, hence, a household name is worth a significant amount in marketing potential. I don't deny or underestimate the marketing potential of the Netscape name, nor the origins of the Mozilla project, I just mean to intimate at the, pragmatic, real-world situation. Again, don't get me wrong, I am not anti-netscape, I am just critical of things happening.
Indeed, this has a danger of setting a precedent that abuse is to fought with more abuse. This is of course not the solution. Such a screen saver would be more helpfull if it analysed and gathered information about the origins of spam and then assisted in the systematic shutdown or firewalling of abusers, but that is just mho...
Dont get me wrong, I am happy to see Netscape in the picture... the only question I have is whether having a firefox fork is such a good thing. I mean, isn't this just going to split up the market again? Just as Firefox was getting mainstream approval and implementation we are now to see Netscape compete with it's mother? I fail to see this as a good thing to thwart the juggernaut but maybe that's just me...
I just saw it and it was still there at sco.com... perhaps they weren't hacked at all and Darl McBride has a corporate slogan for his shareholders?