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An anonymous reader submits "VisitorVille Intelligence has released information on how employees of several large companies use the web based on their monitoring of thousands of websites. Presumably using IP address blocks, they group company employees together to produce some interesting facts and figures: Microsoft employees use Google for their searches 66% of the time, but MSN Search only 20% of the time, and Firefox is their second most popular browser behind Internet Explorer 6's whopping 98.76% share. Google employees use Google as their search engine 100% of the time
and 21% use a Mozilla or Firefox browser. Apple employees like Google best and 68% use Safari.
91% of Internap employees use Mozilla or Firefox, Deutsche Telekom AG employees are the biggest users of Linux, and 39% of Sun Microsystems employees use SunOS. Other groups of interest to Slashdot readers include: The White House, the United Nations, The New York Times, Red Hat, and IBM."
It's nice to see slashdot employees don't do anything on the internet :) Full company list is here by the way.
And IBM is using Windows exclusively?
I wonder why it doesn't show the top 5/10 visited sites.
Rock that crushes, Paper & Scissors that don't matter.
85% of Slashdot users use windows, and 60% still use internet explorer.
Accurate Statistics I see. 100% use google, with a 146% margin of error.
You'll need to follow this link to get here.
Did they purposely leave out information like browser use and prefered operating systems for the White House section?
Well, only if myself, about half of my immediate colleagues, the Linux Technology Center people, all the people on the internal linux mailing lists and probably quite a few others don't count :-)
Given that one data point looks a bit borked, I'm wondering about the rest of the data...
Cheers,
Toby Haynes
Anything I post is strictly my own thoughts and doesn't necessarily have anything to do with the opinions of IBM.
This report shows the top search engines used by users from Microsoft Corp:
Sorry, no data available on this company/organization for this specific topic.
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Screw you all! I'm off to the pub
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Google employees use Google as their search engine 100% of the time
That means when the employees actually use what they make... it must be good.
Either VisitorVille responds to slashdotting by saying it doesn't have data, or some companies were *really* fast with their privacy injunctions.
Kevin Fox
97% of NY Times employees use this to log into the NY Times website
You'd think that slashdot users, being nerds, would use Firefox...
only 39% of Sun employees use Sun OS??? That seems awfully low to me. Granted, I am sure they do use Windows and Linux (at least their version) for various and sunder things around the office but 39%.....there is something very unusual about that.
If you can't preach to the choir there, how are you going to preach to the masses??
No trees were harmed in the composition of this; however, numerous electrons were inconvenienced.
...that 100% of Microsoft employees use sol.exe.
Electrons are free; it is moving them that becomes expensive.
I admitted just did a quick glance, but I didn't find their figures to be credible. I looked the company I work for, and it was listed as 100% Windows 2000 and 100% IE6.
However, we have a mix of Windows 2000, Sun Workstations, Linux machines, and more than a few Macintoshes. Our IT-supported browser is Netscape, not Internet Explorer. So I expected a little more diversity than what they're showing.
Also, their web site says they provide "company specific marketing information". Technically they are providing "market information" not "marketing information". There is a difference. "Market information" means just raw data (which is what they're providing). "Marketing information" means information that helps you make a decision: Should we avoid Flash because too few users at our site have it enabled? This is probably a nit-pick to many people, but for a company offering their research, the difference is nontrivial. The people whom they are targeting their information (besides people just curious for trivia) likely know the difference.
However, based on what I saw reported for my company, their data does not seem to accurately reflect what browsers/etc. people are actually using. Thus you could draw incorrect conclusions from their data.
Maybe that's why the information is free. You get what you pay for.
Insert simplistic political, ideological, or personal proselytization here.
Regarding White House internet usage, the number one browser used from the Oval Office itself is that of Xbox Live.
When approached for comment, President Bush stated that he likes to relieve his stress by, "blowing the shit out of my constituency on Halo 2."
It's no big surprise to see Microsoft employees almost exclusively using Microsoft products - I am very doubtful that Microsoft gives its employees much freedom, if any, to install the software of their choice.
abuse Slashdot so that our IP gets banned. When we track down the little bastard that did this...
95% of dynamic websites crumble within the first 15 comments. 50% after subscriber 'preview'. 5% when Cmdr Taco tries to click on the link before posting the story. 3% when Cmdr Taco tries to click on the link before posting the story. 2% when Cmdr Taco tries to click on the link before posting the story. 0% for Timothy; he's too busy ranting about the latest threat to "our rights online" to check the links.
Please help metamoderate.
When is slashdot going to post their server stats??
For some reason, they had several IBMs listed. Plain IBM, IBM Corporation, etc.
Just love that all 50 links in the submission are to the same /.ed server.
"Well, that link didn't work. Maybe this one..."
Wake up.
Firefox is their second most popular browser behind Internet Explorer 6's whopping 98.76% share.
:)
The second most popular behind 98.76%. Spin that any faster and you'd warp space-time.
The coolest voice ever.
I don't know how much this could account for, but at least a little.
Not too surprising, since our intranet apps often use tons IE only features. You can actually do some pretty nifty stuff in IE w/ XML/XSL, Javascript and DHTML. But I'll be damned if it doesn't break every standard in the book. :(
:}
Fascinating stats. Add me to the % that uses Mozilla.
when people see that IE is used 98% of the time by MS, it's becasue MS doesn't give them enough freedom, but when google employees use google 100% of the time it's becasue it is a better product?
Personal, I have started find google to be less and less useful. I actualy used HOTBOT last week to get result Google wasn't returning.
And yes, I was as surprised as you are the hotbot is still around.
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well, kindof.. So they track every user who visits a site running their web bug and they *could* sell that information to anyone. :)
BTW I hope they're seeing lots of slashdot tornado's and riots at the moment...
09F91102 no, 455FE104 nope, F190A1E8 uh-uh, 7A5F8A09 that's not it, C87294CE no. Ah! 452F6E403CDF10714E41DFAA257D313F.
Nah. Microsoft employees use MSN search 99% of the time and Google 1% of the time. It's just that MSN search almost never finds anything useful so they don't click on the web sites found, hence nothing shows up in RefererLog files.
And 78.35% of statistics are fabricated.....
That 20% MSN search at Microsoft accounts for all the times Bill Gates or some other senior hovers over someones shoulder...
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.21 seconds vs .43 seconds is sure the hell a lot faster...
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At the company I work for (I'm not in the IT department of this one... shucks), we are forced to use IE because certian web applications we use for inter/intra department communication or data storage use asp or other activex controls.
::sigh::), and one of the IT guys just said "we would, but our web apps only work with IE." Ah well...
I asked specifically if I could get firefox installed (I don't have administration access on my desktop...
Personally, I prefer emacs.
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1 of approx. 80^6 germans likes it that "Deutsche Telekom AG employees are the biggest users of Linux".
they must be writing to a table...
The only search engine they're using these days is Dice...
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Alan Greenspan
More interesting than Google and Microsoft and all that are ISPs. Enter your ISPs name into the search, find it on the list, and check the browser and OS stats.
Free of Flash! Free of Flash!
You can actually do some pretty nifty stuff in mozilla or khtml w/ XML/XSL, Javascript, DHTML and CSS.
There is a spark in every single flame bait point.
Isn't it possible the browser of choice is artificially skewed towards IE?
I know a lot of users of other browsers spoof their user-agent to stop websites bitching about incompatible browsers.
Mine is set to send IE6.0 WinXP even though I am probably using Lynx on an iPod.
Equally, I imagine some Safari users are quite deliberately NOT spoofing anything to do a bit of evangelism.
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Didn't catch the full article before it got slashdotted, but it would be interesting to know how these statistics were calculated. It would make a big difference if they were calculated by official audits/inventories or rather by random surveys of company employees. Imagine how your non-technical employees would respond..
Did you know that 68.56% of people are easily impressed by statistics? :o
While I was working with a network admin at a local highschool, the entire district got banned from Slashdot for "abuse" that appeared we were trying to dos them or somesuch. Of course we just assumed it was the district, but as it turned out, all the schools in the province are connected to a massive network that provides bandwidth for every school. So every school in the province got banned, that's thousands of IT workers and whoever the heck knows how many geeky kids who were suddenly greated with a big red screen. It took a few emails to slashdot to finally get them to unblock it, and the problem as it turned out was some kind of a router looping explosion thing. Sorry, boring story and I forgot the details. And the point. But I got this far, so *submit button*
Especially in Asia & Africa, but - FAIK - ;-)
also elsewhere... where ever someone has
"too little) to do at the office, I guess.
The next person to say that Al Gore invented the internet will have his dick chopped off.
I recently hosted a mirror of an image in one of my posts that got around 800 hits. This was what my stats were for that.
Browser Version:
Firefox - 39.8%
MS IE - 19%
Curl - 14.1% (probably high because it was an image)
Unknown - 9.3%
Mozilla - 4.9%
Others - 4.4%
Opera - 3.1%
Safari - 2.8%
Konqueror - 1.9%
Netscape - 0.3%
OS Version:
Windows - 56.7%
Linux - 25%
Unknown - 13.9%
Macintosh - 3.6%
FreeBSD - 0.5%
Unknown Unix System - 0.1%
I'm connected through a phone line, you insensitive clod!
All joking aside, I've seen a photo somewhere of him using an iMac. The second-generation swivel-neck type.
$5 / month hosted VPS on linux = awesome!
86% use servers that are not powerful enough to withstand the Slashdot effect.
Back in 1998, I was working for the Java division of Sun, where we relied on the "Intranet" long before it was a word. Most documents, both internal, and external, were in HTML. Which makes a really good web browser really important. And yet we were stuck with the Solaris port of Netscape 4.7. Buggy, sluggish, screwed up my X-Windows palette, crashed once an hour -- and it didn't provide headers and footers for printouts! I was working as a tech writer, reading and producing a lot of documents, so this was a major crimp in my productivity. I finally broke the No Microsoft Rule and installed IE for Solaris on my workstation.
That's all the brand loyalty you can expect from techies -- give them something that works, or they're gone.
...would he need to do it on xbox live when he's doing it in real life.
MSDN Student Flash, a student-focused blog that is part of the MSDN blogs, has come out with a blog entry about Firefox. Who in Microsoft let this one slip?
It's an awesome post, though...
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I thought I saw him with an etch-a-scetch.
I prefer the "u" in honour as it seems to be missing these days.
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Once again, Slashdot gives no credit to whoever actually did all the research, or if the anonymous poster actually did it, which blog told him about the site. Quite a respectable news organization you've got here, what with anonymous users posting plagiarized research and non-credited links. So, who did he not credit?
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http://demiliani.com/blog/archive/2005/01/03/2024
http://blog.comego.net/2005/01/visitorville-intel
http://www.uneasysilence.com/index.php?p=1876
Where can i get a piece of this infinite bounty, I need some new shoes...
It should have 3 ns: banannna
I'm sure there is a stat that says 69% of the time employees are searching for "hot pussy cock" over at Morgan Stanley / Chase in between "Growth Funds" and "Anti-Index".
BALLLLOOOOOOOOOOBA!
...What the hell is this? It reads like the subject line of a Korean spam email.
the definition of slashdotted
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... and loading web pages takes for ever. Why are the open source people are blind? I am not a fan of MSFT though! My hands freezes like firefox in the middle!
Is it another netscape which behaved the same way?
Perhaps Google's coming out with their own branded browser. Those clever tricksters, can't hide from us!
Firefox is their second most popular browser behind Internet Explorer 6's whopping 98.76% share.
You have to realize that Microsoft employees have practically no choice about using IE because MS pretty much runs its business on internal websites written for IE. But in my years there on and off as a contractor MANY people have told me they prefer to use Netscape, Firefox, etc. at home for various reasons.
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mod up parent that's -funny-
When I used Opera, I had the UserAgent set to IE. I think this might have been the default.
Why not code to standards so that all browsers get the same interface?
evil is as evil does
- Collect lots of logs with client IP addresses and User Agents from various popular web sites.
- Get the mapping of which IP address blocks are owned by which companies.
- Write some software that dissects user agents and OS from the User-Agent value and counts occurrences per per IP address block owner.
PS: www.visitorville.com is not currently down like intelligence.visitorville.com is. And it was previously mentioned on Slashdot.Since www.visitorville.com is in the business of providing web stats, they are probably aggregating stats from many of their customers.
You can get them the registries (e.g., ARIN, RIPE , APNIC) by asking nicely and agreeing to use them for marketing.
I work at a large ISP and we use a proxy server for all external Internet-traffic.
I could imagine corps like MS and Google do the same.
Wouldn't this mess up such statistics a bit?
Heh, I think you are alone (or in a very very small percentage) for Firefox to be slow.
On all my machines in our offices, Firefox is pretty much the de'facto on speed. Mine is up nearly instantaneously, loads pages wickedly fast, and in general, runs fantastic in any of our Windows, Linux and Macintosh workstations.
'/dev/wit' is not available.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1 &item=5548444803&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT
Coralize links!
98% of all internet users failed English.
Load Firefox at the same time Windows loads, just like IE does, and you might think that it loads faster, just like IE makes you think. ;)
:)
Web pages render much faster in Firefox than in IE for me. But I'm using Linux of course and only use IE for testing purposes.
14% unknown? What gives? What unkown OS is/are being used three times more then a mac?
It's not that it is some mysterious unknown operating system, just that *they* don't know what it is. People behind certain types of firewall or proxy that strip the browser agent, for example. The 'unknowns' are likely all using a roughly proportionate mix of the other operating systems featured.
There are a few things that are beyond common knowledge.
1. posting a link on slashdot will cause that link to see a massive surge in traffic
2. posting multiple links to different pages in a website will multiply this already huge effect
3. the slashdot effect will almost always take down a site and/or cost the site owner thousands of dollars in bandwidth
Knowing these things couldn't one argue that posting a non-coralized or non-cached link on slashdot is the equivalent of a malicious DDOS attack which could cause legal repercussions? Would it really be that hard to take the tag and make it automatically coralized?
Shame there aren't results based on political parties.
Though I expect the results will be as I expect them too and voting doesn't seem to count for much anyway.
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The only reasons Firefox will load slow are there are a ton of badly scripted pop up links or your server is being slammed. Probably the latter. Other than that, you can tweak the about:config to make Firefox even quicker.
Huh... I'm a little surprised that more people within Google aren't using Mozilla/Firefox. I recently read about their exhaustive hiring process... You'd think they'd get more employees who knew a good browser when they saw one :)
"hey, could you pass me a paper towel? er.. I mean... DEPLOY ABSORBTION PANEL!"
Sorry, I just watched the episode last night.
This information is, at best, misleading. I checked out several companies of which I know the approximate makeup of OS/Browsers and the data returned wasn't even close. In one case, not even one percent was returned for the >90% deployed operating system/browser (Win98/IE5).
Obviously they have some data, but since a lot of corporations don't actually browse from the netblocks they own for serving websites (they use different connections typically for employees)
Wasn't that the theme, in Minority Report and in I, Robot?. That is acutally funny.
Nobody can tell me that someone at Google has not ever used soemthing other than google for searching. If they haven't ever tried the competition, then I would say they will not last very long if they won't look at what they are doing. They must look at the others to see how they compare. Therefore 100% cannot possibly be correct.
as a company, it is in our best interest to make as many products work on a widely diverse set of platforms.
Where can I pick up a copy of Microsoft Office compiled for Solaris OS on SPARC architecture? I'd imagine that if Microsoft can get something working in GNU/Linux, FreeBSD, and Solaris operating systems, it would be able to delay some firms' migration to OpenOffice.org by a few months to a few years.
ASP is a server-rendered language
If a language specifies a standard library, you must take the library implementation into account when evaluating the language implementation. I'd imagine that a lot of the code emitted by the libraries that come with the ASP server relies on ActiveX controls or MSHTML quirks or both.
I tried their site but couldn't work out how they're getting these stats. From what I can make out, these people run some sort of counter company.. so they're getting their stats from hits to certain sites, right?
That being the case, it seems a bit dumb to guess that Microsoft uses Google X% of the time, because it's only true on a small subset of data. Without having Google's access logs, you can't possibly say that with any authority.
When I see 100% in a statistical result, it makes me cringe. The results of this study are under very big question.
I looked up my company and saw we were 100% WinXP. That's a load of crap.
I look around at the machines I'm supporting. I see mostly OS X machines, and the few Windows machines are Win2K. I just opened two laptop boxes which came pre-installed with XP, but they're not even on the network, yet.
The stats on this site are severely skewed. I don't know where they get their data, but it's very wrong.
Plant a tree in a developing country.