So, Brazil is still the country most concerned with Open Source, with 30 cities hosting this event.
I wish Mexico was more involved with this, but I guess none of us have the time for this kind of thing. And it looks like there are no sponsors for any city in Mexico; the organizers all seem to be universities or research organizations.
With the slight difference that C programmers do not depend on a single company to have a reliable compiler. Neither do C++ programmers. Actually, if C++ programmers do whine a lot about C compatibility, they can just fork the C++ compiler, and have two different compilers: one with C compatibility and one without it.
The VB guys are screwed if MS decided to dump VB6.
The knee jerks here go on and on about coding skills, but it's the code base that quits working natively unless rewritten that is what is being fought to protect, in other words, a lot of investment. Money.
And yet, the news here isn't about a bunch of companies complaining about Microsoft's decision. It's about VB programmers complaining about it.
And I bet they're complaining because they won't be able to keep writing new apps in the only language they know. And the companies will decide to rewrite their VB apps in some other language, maybe 5 or 10 years from now, but they will. Their days are counted, and they still don't want to learn a new language.
Sorry, but I can't feel any sympathy or respect or anything for these guys. Learn something new! it happens to everyone! There are many lessons to be learned from this, and from what I've been reading, most of them have already been mentioned.
Which is kind of odd, because OSX is derived from NextStep, and on NextStep you could run an app on one machine and have it display on different machine. It was just display poscript piped through the network to be displayed on the other host... I remember looking for that option as soon as I got my hands on OSX and I think it's gone (or maybe it's still there, but it's undocumented? I honestly can't remember what option you had to type on the command line to display an app on a different host).
Hey, don't be so harsh. The Microsoft Word development team is a good place for this guy to work in.
He obviously doesn't have a clue about OOP and serialization. This is one of those "someone told me I'm doing something wrong, but I immediately said no way. Is there someone here who does stuff the way I do? we're not wrong, right? right?" ask slashdot posts.
That information is useless for this.
There are many projects on SourceForge that only work on Windows, some only are for Mac, others are java-based or even for the.NET platform. I think the java-based ones will be excluded (there is no point in including java-based projects in a linux distro if the runtime itself is out) - and the.NET ones might only be included if they run on Mono.
That's why for example the Mono team asks you to refrain from contributing to their codebase if you have so much as downloaded and compiled Rotor (the "shared source" version of the.net CLR, which you can compile in OSX and maybe some other unices). But, the Mono team cannot benefit from this, since their winforms API is completely different on the inside, to be portable. MS's implementation of winforms is basically a wrapper for the MFC classes. Supposedly that will change and now it's going to be native, but my guess is it will now draw stuff making calls to the 2D classes in.net, which will still be wrappers for the native stuff. If you're going to develop anything in.net, you should stick with GTK# instead of using winforms; that way, you can switch to mono AND to another OS any time.
1 minut a month? well, many people who use email as part of their work receive at least 40 spam mails a day, that got through all kinds of filters. God knows how many were blocked by ISP filters + filters you define yourself in your email reader, etc. So it's more like 5 minutes a day, because you have to sort through that spam to make sure you don't delete real messages. 5 minutes a day is almost half an hour a week. 2 hours a month lost to spam (if you sort through it fast - I guess it takes a lot of people much more than 5 minutes if they read every message, probably checking for porn or reading the messages or something). In an office of ten people, that's at least 20 hours a month lost because of this.
I went to Peru a couple of times when Fujimori was in charged. My father lived in Lima for two years during that period. you could see soldiers in the streets, but that's kind of common in some countries in Central and South America.
My father talked a lot with his peruvian coworkers about the situation in Peru before and during Fujimori. A lot of people like him. Yes, he was a populist (used to go a lot to small indigenous communities dressed with regional clothing, making half-gifts to the community that later turned out to be useless, etc); yes, he was very strict with the drug and terrorist issues (some of which were very delicate; the Tupac Amaru movement was supposed to be like the Zapatist movement here in Mexico, except that Tupac Amaru used to blow up stuff in the city, lots of car bombs and such). He got rid of them. So naturally some people were upset because it was seen as a dictatorial action, but most people were happy that they could now go out with their families without fear of getting killed in a mall or restaurant.
So yeah, people didnt' have the freedom to maybe wander around in certain areas that were protected by the military, but in general the country was safer, I think.
Problem is, at the end Fujimori didn't want to step down and cheated on the elections, and that's not good. I think people didn't want to look the other way just because he made the country better, and that was good.
The problem with your example is that surely someone will reply that he's done it, or "that's nothing, I have a ZX81 running both KDE and Gnome running on top of linux 2.6 and it for storage it uses some chips I put together on a protoboard".
I'd rather read a hundred HitchHiker-related mouse jokes and another hundred pinky and the brain jokes instead of this.
The first version of Eclipse I used was 2.1 in september 2002, and it already had much of this stuff. Eclipse compiled on every save, in the background. And many mistakes like undeclared variables or unknown methods would show up even without saving. But the quick fix feature I think is part of eclipse 3, I don't remember having that before.
That's why projects like Spring have become somewhat popular. I use it a lot, to avoid all the EJB ugliness and any dependency to a particular J2EE container. You can declare your own JDBC connection pools, configure a lot of beans (not necessarily EJB's) as singletons and access them through an object called ApplicationContext. It's really cool. And for persistency I'm using Hibernate, which CMP is trying to catch up with.
Perhaps the stat counts SourceSafe as "not using any source control at all", which in my opinion is totally wrong, since there should be a third category for teams "using russian-roulette style source control".
Seriously, I met some MS people who obviously had only used VSS in their lifetime. I showed CVS and they were reluctant at first (which was irrelevant since our whole repository was already on CVS), but they asked around and supposedly MS uses CVS internally in many projects... that was funny in so many levels. They don't eat their dog food. They know their dog food sucks. But they keep it a secret, because CVS is open source and they're against it...
These guys never understood how CVS worked and installed VSS for their own projects, and had someone else sync that with the global CVS repository. I guess some people just don't want to learn better stuff.
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So, Brazil is still the country most concerned with Open Source, with 30 cities hosting this event.
I wish Mexico was more involved with this, but I guess none of us have the time for this kind of thing. And it looks like there are no sponsors for any city in Mexico; the organizers all seem to be universities or research organizations.
I thought that was the name of the original LaserDisc trilogy release
The VB guys are screwed if MS decided to dump VB6.
Go Microsoft!!!
(OK I've said that before many times, but this is the first time I say it without the word AWAY in between).
And I bet they're complaining because they won't be able to keep writing new apps in the only language they know. And the companies will decide to rewrite their VB apps in some other language, maybe 5 or 10 years from now, but they will. Their days are counted, and they still don't want to learn a new language.
Sorry, but I can't feel any sympathy or respect or anything for these guys. Learn something new! it happens to everyone! There are many lessons to be learned from this, and from what I've been reading, most of them have already been mentioned.Which is kind of odd, because OSX is derived from NextStep, and on NextStep you could run an app on one machine and have it display on different machine. It was just display poscript piped through the network to be displayed on the other host... I remember looking for that option as soon as I got my hands on OSX and I think it's gone (or maybe it's still there, but it's undocumented? I honestly can't remember what option you had to type on the command line to display an app on a different host).
Don't forget alien abductions always happen in rural areas... so watch out for those teasers.
He did? I can't find any mention of SHA-1 or MD5 in today's newsletter...
Hey, don't be so harsh. The Microsoft Word development team is a good place for this guy to work in. He obviously doesn't have a clue about OOP and serialization. This is one of those "someone told me I'm doing something wrong, but I immediately said no way. Is there someone here who does stuff the way I do? we're not wrong, right? right?" ask slashdot posts.
That information is useless for this. There are many projects on SourceForge that only work on Windows, some only are for Mac, others are java-based or even for the .NET platform. I think the java-based ones will be excluded (there is no point in including java-based projects in a linux distro if the runtime itself is out) - and the .NET ones might only be included if they run on Mono.
But you got more to lose. Sure, you can kick his ass, but he can kick your FIVE asses.
Gosling: ".NET has huge security holes"
Box: "well, duh, guess where we copied them from! Now go fix the JVM so we copy your improvements and fix our CLR."
That's why for example the Mono team asks you to refrain from contributing to their codebase if you have so much as downloaded and compiled Rotor (the "shared source" version of the .net CLR, which you can compile in OSX and maybe some other unices). .net, which will still be wrappers for the native stuff. .net, you should stick with GTK# instead of using winforms; that way, you can switch to mono AND to another OS any time.
But, the Mono team cannot benefit from this, since their winforms API is completely different on the inside, to be portable. MS's implementation of winforms is basically a wrapper for the MFC classes. Supposedly that will change and now it's going to be native, but my guess is it will now draw stuff making calls to the 2D classes in
If you're going to develop anything in
On the bright side, you won't starve to death if they take your livelihood like that, since you can eat buns with condiments for free.
1 minut a month? well, many people who use email as part of their work receive at least 40 spam mails a day, that got through all kinds of filters. God knows how many were blocked by ISP filters + filters you define yourself in your email reader, etc. So it's more like 5 minutes a day, because you have to sort through that spam to make sure you don't delete real messages.
5 minutes a day is almost half an hour a week. 2 hours a month lost to spam (if you sort through it fast - I guess it takes a lot of people much more than 5 minutes if they read every message, probably checking for porn or reading the messages or something). In an office of ten people, that's at least 20 hours a month lost because of this.
Did I just say that out loud?
I went to Peru a couple of times when Fujimori was in charged. My father lived in Lima for two years during that period. you could see soldiers in the streets, but that's kind of common in some countries in Central and South America. My father talked a lot with his peruvian coworkers about the situation in Peru before and during Fujimori. A lot of people like him. Yes, he was a populist (used to go a lot to small indigenous communities dressed with regional clothing, making half-gifts to the community that later turned out to be useless, etc); yes, he was very strict with the drug and terrorist issues (some of which were very delicate; the Tupac Amaru movement was supposed to be like the Zapatist movement here in Mexico, except that Tupac Amaru used to blow up stuff in the city, lots of car bombs and such). He got rid of them. So naturally some people were upset because it was seen as a dictatorial action, but most people were happy that they could now go out with their families without fear of getting killed in a mall or restaurant. So yeah, people didnt' have the freedom to maybe wander around in certain areas that were protected by the military, but in general the country was safer, I think. Problem is, at the end Fujimori didn't want to step down and cheated on the elections, and that's not good. I think people didn't want to look the other way just because he made the country better, and that was good.
The problem with your example is that surely someone will reply that he's done it, or "that's nothing, I have a ZX81 running both KDE and Gnome running on top of linux 2.6 and it for storage it uses some chips I put together on a protoboard".
I'd rather read a hundred HitchHiker-related mouse jokes and another hundred pinky and the brain jokes instead of this.
Typical slashdot user. Nymphs don't even figure on the list.
Well, with the new mice Apple are making, we can paraphrase Sun:
"The button is the mouse."The first version of Eclipse I used was 2.1 in september 2002, and it already had much of this stuff. Eclipse compiled on every save, in the background. And many mistakes like undeclared variables or unknown methods would show up even without saving. But the quick fix feature I think is part of eclipse 3, I don't remember having that before.
That's why projects like Spring have become somewhat popular. I use it a lot, to avoid all the EJB ugliness and any dependency to a particular J2EE container. You can declare your own JDBC connection pools, configure a lot of beans (not necessarily EJB's) as singletons and access them through an object called ApplicationContext. It's really cool. And for persistency I'm using Hibernate, which CMP is trying to catch up with.
Perhaps the stat counts SourceSafe as "not using any source control at all", which in my opinion is totally wrong, since there should be a third category for teams "using russian-roulette style source control".
Seriously, I met some MS people who obviously had only used VSS in their lifetime. I showed CVS and they were reluctant at first (which was irrelevant since our whole repository was already on CVS), but they asked around and supposedly MS uses CVS internally in many projects... that was funny in so many levels. They don't eat their dog food. They know their dog food sucks. But they keep it a secret, because CVS is open source and they're against it...
These guys never understood how CVS worked and installed VSS for their own projects, and had someone else sync that with the global CVS repository. I guess some people just don't want to learn better stuff.