The summary mentions a university using Exchange successfully. Anathema, I say! Anathema! Have we no sense of decency? Must we sit idly by and let such disinformation blot out a beacon of truth here on the Internet? Let us take up our arms, brothers, and march onward. Er, roll onward, since all our computer chairs have wheels on them. We shall destroy the enemy while sitting upright in an ergonomic fashion! We shall upend the world from the depths of the basement!
Just because everyone else sucks at it doesn't mean they get a free pass.
And, I'm speaking as someone whose primary email server is one I do pay for. IMAP is nice over a secure connection, if you have a good client (Outlook [Express] blows, the support barely works). It is just that email *is* identity to a lot of the Internet. To make that something that the users have to think to make secure each time (even if it means appending an 's' to the protocol) is just careless. People get tired, make mistakes, and have bad days. Software should be as robust as it can in the face of users that lack clarity of mind.
Unbelievable. Secure by default is not a nice feature, it is the ONLY option when properly engineering something. Free or otherwise. If you think otherwise, then you're doing a grave disservice to your users. Anyway, I'm looking forward to quoting this thread in future security discussions. Evidently, security isn't as important these days, or, it isn't if you're Google.
You forgot this is Google who has erred here, and they have been shown to be Good, so you get people defending their poor security practices simply because they like Google. Are you new here?;)
I'm expecting a fifteen page writeup on why these issues are not that big of a deal by tomorrow on my desk. Double spaced, Arial 9 point.
Oh, and this time, please don't use Wingdings in the footnotes. I can't tell you how disorienting it is to find a jogging man icon be used as a marker in the middle of a rant.
Oh, I see. In that respect, you are certainly right: there is a lot of strong opinions about the iPhone, like it or not! I suppose Apple products always end up like that, which is pretty remarkable.
Tell me how your life has been different since the launch of the iPhone. Strangely enough, you don't hear much about it these days outside of Slashdot. If it was really making a huge difference in the world, by your logic, wouldn't we be hearing about it more?
Where did I say I was anti-Apple? Or anti-iPhone even? The iPhone hoopla was an instance of media over-reporting for a silly technology gadget that people were told they needed to get. There is a difference between anti-hyping the product itself ("iPhone sucks, I'll never get one, blah blah") and hating the machine delivering all the hype to you ("oh boy, another iPhone article on Slashdot!"). Until we can use Firehose to get stories off the front page, I see nothing wrong with using existing stories to discuss the ridiculousness that was the media coverage of it.
It deserves every bit of anti-hype it gets: it was the Paris Hilton of the tech world. For a short period in late June it was nothing but rampant ogling and wild speculation about a freaking cellular phone. How is it NOT absurd that people camped out for days to be the first person to get a cell phone? Now, I don't call people nerds much (mostly because I am one, or, used to be, at the current rate the industry is going), but I'm at a loss to describe it any other way.
The whole thing is a barometer that indicates how materialistic we are. We get so worked up over a cell phone with a slightly different design, and the media labels the launch of it as equally newsworthy as actual events that impact human existence. Fuck that.
You left out the part that involves making all of your arguments using faulty logic. It is an exchange of emotional arguments. Instead of logic, the anecdote is the standard unit of exchange around here, and somehow it carries worth on its own.
But, hey, if everyone only talked about what they knew, it'd be a very quiet place indeed. So it is more fun to mock the groupthink and the rampant hypocrisy.
Of course there's a difference. I am glad there is a choice and that there are alternatives. We all know MS is a slimy entity spawned from the Devil himself. (Oops, we don't believe in the Devil around here, I forgot). The issue is in calling this "news." This is hardly relevant, this is someone crying about the fact that their favorite ideology wasn't chosen for this situation, despite the fact there are probably other factors involved that they are not aware of.
Nor do I care for the debate. I refuse to get emotionally invested in a particular technology. It is ridiculous how logic is thrown out the window because someone's pet technology wasn't chosen in a random school district. Then they get all worked up and write a blog posting about it, and somehow, it is "news."
Yes, the money is better spent elsewhere. I don't think anyone would argue against you there. However, don't think for a second that the money they saved from not upgrading Office unnecessarily would then be given to charity. It would be whittled away elsewhere. The situation is suboptimal, obviously. But it is silly to think it is a big deal. It is more crying about sour grapes.
Funny how OSS is always about 'choice' until someone has the gall to choose something other than it. Then we get dramatic articles about how, "the money is better spent on free software." Guess what? Other people have different needs than you! And people flock to what they know! How shocking! Now let's all post elitist comments about how no one takes the time to search out free alternatives to their office suite. Certainly people SHOULD be interested in this sort of thing, because *I* am! And don't people ever even THINK about the superior morality of free software?!
Seriously now, if you wish to persist in the same line of thinking regardless of how ridiculous it is (usually this is the case when you agree with it), then I will allow that. Allow me to say that your concern is better spent on more important matters, such as child labor, or other, *real* injustices in the world. But I get the feeling people rally behind these sorts of "us vs. them" exercises because they can feel like they're a part of something, while sitting at their computer. There are real problems out there in the world. People's choice in software ranks pretty low in terms of importance.
I really hate people sometimes. How can anyone be so stuck on themselves that they issue death threats because someone creates a virus for the operating system they use? In doing so, they are saying, "I'd rather you be dead than deal with the possibility that what you created would endanger my computing platform."
If you don't think that is sick, I'm not sure what is. This sort of fanaticism is extremely dangerous, and essentially a curse upon the Apple community.
Thanks to this wonderful article, we can now continue feeling oppressed because our operating system of choice doesn't get the same hand-holding that the rest of the world does! "Dear Slashdot, would you believe that the cable installer did not know what the Linux kernel was? I BET THEY'RE FUNDED BY MICROSOFT IN A GIANT CONSPIRACY TO BRING LINUX DOWN!"
Seriously, get off Slashdot if you don't know how to set up an Internet connection. You're lamenting the fact you don't get a few browser helper objects, your IE branded, default home and search pages changed, and about 3 or 4 extra things run at startup installed.
Parent comment directly contradicts the groupthink that no one bought a Zune, and no one ever will. So, which is it? Is the Zune going to be bought, or is it going to tank?
What a relief! These past few nights I have been unable to sleep as I pondered which versions of what software should adopt the new GPL (which is really sweet BTW you should check it out, it has awesome graphics). I can rest a little easier now knowing that they are moving to GPLv3.
I'm thinking some sort of personal vigilante campaign would be the only way to get back at these organizations. It pisses me off that we can't do anything about them. I'd love to have some personal contact information for them so I can go and falsely accuse them of multiple crimes in the hope that they pony up cash. Unfortunately, I don't think they'd be smart enough to realize the point I'm trying to make, y'know?
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The summary mentions a university using Exchange successfully. Anathema, I say! Anathema! Have we no sense of decency? Must we sit idly by and let such disinformation blot out a beacon of truth here on the Internet? Let us take up our arms, brothers, and march onward. Er, roll onward, since all our computer chairs have wheels on them. We shall destroy the enemy while sitting upright in an ergonomic fashion! We shall upend the world from the depths of the basement!
Just because everyone else sucks at it doesn't mean they get a free pass.
And, I'm speaking as someone whose primary email server is one I do pay for. IMAP is nice over a secure connection, if you have a good client (Outlook [Express] blows, the support barely works). It is just that email *is* identity to a lot of the Internet. To make that something that the users have to think to make secure each time (even if it means appending an 's' to the protocol) is just careless. People get tired, make mistakes, and have bad days. Software should be as robust as it can in the face of users that lack clarity of mind.
Just because you mark it flamebait doesn't make it less true.
So now it isn't an error?
Unbelievable. Secure by default is not a nice feature, it is the ONLY option when properly engineering something. Free or otherwise. If you think otherwise, then you're doing a grave disservice to your users. Anyway, I'm looking forward to quoting this thread in future security discussions. Evidently, security isn't as important these days, or, it isn't if you're Google.
You forgot this is Google who has erred here, and they have been shown to be Good, so you get people defending their poor security practices simply because they like Google. Are you new here? ;)
Ah, and I thought this was "news for nerds." How foolish of me.
That'd be the sound of your cognitive dissonance knocking. Google/Apple = good, patents = bad. But, Google/Apple like patents!
I wish they wouldn't run stories like this...now what are we supposed to think?
I'm expecting a fifteen page writeup on why these issues are not that big of a deal by tomorrow on my desk. Double spaced, Arial 9 point.
Oh, and this time, please don't use Wingdings in the footnotes. I can't tell you how disorienting it is to find a jogging man icon be used as a marker in the middle of a rant.
Oh, I see. In that respect, you are certainly right: there is a lot of strong opinions about the iPhone, like it or not! I suppose Apple products always end up like that, which is pretty remarkable.
Owning an iPhone means someone wants an iPhone. It doesn't mean anything else.
If you don't see what is wrong with materialism, then there is no point in continuing the discussion, because we will never see eye to eye.
Tell me how your life has been different since the launch of the iPhone. Strangely enough, you don't hear much about it these days outside of Slashdot. If it was really making a huge difference in the world, by your logic, wouldn't we be hearing about it more?
I'm a bigger fan of smashing people's sacred icons to make a point than anything else. ;)
I love my 3G iPod, it still runs, and might get a Mac. I just don't take much of this stuff seriously.
Where did I say I was anti-Apple? Or anti-iPhone even? The iPhone hoopla was an instance of media over-reporting for a silly technology gadget that people were told they needed to get. There is a difference between anti-hyping the product itself ("iPhone sucks, I'll never get one, blah blah") and hating the machine delivering all the hype to you ("oh boy, another iPhone article on Slashdot!"). Until we can use Firehose to get stories off the front page, I see nothing wrong with using existing stories to discuss the ridiculousness that was the media coverage of it.
It deserves every bit of anti-hype it gets: it was the Paris Hilton of the tech world. For a short period in late June it was nothing but rampant ogling and wild speculation about a freaking cellular phone. How is it NOT absurd that people camped out for days to be the first person to get a cell phone? Now, I don't call people nerds much (mostly because I am one, or, used to be, at the current rate the industry is going), but I'm at a loss to describe it any other way.
The whole thing is a barometer that indicates how materialistic we are. We get so worked up over a cell phone with a slightly different design, and the media labels the launch of it as equally newsworthy as actual events that impact human existence. Fuck that.
You left out the part that involves making all of your arguments using faulty logic. It is an exchange of emotional arguments. Instead of logic, the anecdote is the standard unit of exchange around here, and somehow it carries worth on its own.
But, hey, if everyone only talked about what they knew, it'd be a very quiet place indeed. So it is more fun to mock the groupthink and the rampant hypocrisy.
Of course there's a difference. I am glad there is a choice and that there are alternatives. We all know MS is a slimy entity spawned from the Devil himself. (Oops, we don't believe in the Devil around here, I forgot). The issue is in calling this "news." This is hardly relevant, this is someone crying about the fact that their favorite ideology wasn't chosen for this situation, despite the fact there are probably other factors involved that they are not aware of.
Nor do I care for the debate. I refuse to get emotionally invested in a particular technology. It is ridiculous how logic is thrown out the window because someone's pet technology wasn't chosen in a random school district. Then they get all worked up and write a blog posting about it, and somehow, it is "news."
Yes, the money is better spent elsewhere. I don't think anyone would argue against you there. However, don't think for a second that the money they saved from not upgrading Office unnecessarily would then be given to charity. It would be whittled away elsewhere. The situation is suboptimal, obviously. But it is silly to think it is a big deal. It is more crying about sour grapes.
Funny how OSS is always about 'choice' until someone has the gall to choose something other than it. Then we get dramatic articles about how, "the money is better spent on free software." Guess what? Other people have different needs than you! And people flock to what they know! How shocking! Now let's all post elitist comments about how no one takes the time to search out free alternatives to their office suite. Certainly people SHOULD be interested in this sort of thing, because *I* am! And don't people ever even THINK about the superior morality of free software?!
Seriously now, if you wish to persist in the same line of thinking regardless of how ridiculous it is (usually this is the case when you agree with it), then I will allow that. Allow me to say that your concern is better spent on more important matters, such as child labor, or other, *real* injustices in the world. But I get the feeling people rally behind these sorts of "us vs. them" exercises because they can feel like they're a part of something, while sitting at their computer. There are real problems out there in the world. People's choice in software ranks pretty low in terms of importance.
I really hate people sometimes. How can anyone be so stuck on themselves that they issue death threats because someone creates a virus for the operating system they use? In doing so, they are saying, "I'd rather you be dead than deal with the possibility that what you created would endanger my computing platform."
If you don't think that is sick, I'm not sure what is. This sort of fanaticism is extremely dangerous, and essentially a curse upon the Apple community.
Thanks to this wonderful article, we can now continue feeling oppressed because our operating system of choice doesn't get the same hand-holding that the rest of the world does! "Dear Slashdot, would you believe that the cable installer did not know what the Linux kernel was? I BET THEY'RE FUNDED BY MICROSOFT IN A GIANT CONSPIRACY TO BRING LINUX DOWN!"
Seriously, get off Slashdot if you don't know how to set up an Internet connection. You're lamenting the fact you don't get a few browser helper objects, your IE branded, default home and search pages changed, and about 3 or 4 extra things run at startup installed.
The iPhone really *is* a revolution in mobile phones. Or, at least, it likes inciting one at the router level!
Parent comment directly contradicts the groupthink that no one bought a Zune, and no one ever will. So, which is it? Is the Zune going to be bought, or is it going to tank?
What a relief! These past few nights I have been unable to sleep as I pondered which versions of what software should adopt the new GPL (which is really sweet BTW you should check it out, it has awesome graphics). I can rest a little easier now knowing that they are moving to GPLv3.
After all, its the morally correct thing to do.
I'm thinking some sort of personal vigilante campaign would be the only way to get back at these organizations. It pisses me off that we can't do anything about them. I'd love to have some personal contact information for them so I can go and falsely accuse them of multiple crimes in the hope that they pony up cash. Unfortunately, I don't think they'd be smart enough to realize the point I'm trying to make, y'know?
So, how does one retaliate in this situation?