It has been mentioned at above, but this comment really is the crux of the problem for microsoft. People are beginning to realise that Macdonalds only offers a small range of choice and those choices all taste the same.
We dont want the same shit repackaged and remarketed - we want better stuff not cheaper stuff.
Well I'm used to using tools which take care of that for you so sometimes I don't think about it.
Besides, it's safer to copy and paste........;)
This is/. -- You don't need to read the article.
Actually, what we need is a virus that, in the email headers, adds:
X-Idiot-Who-Sent-This:
(and variations thereof) to all the emails it sends. Fake the From: address, sure. But I'd like to know who the person is that I should LART for the 100,000 copies of MyDoom that I keep getting. Especially to addresses that I've given out or never even used.
Du-uh -- everyone knows worms live underground !
"The Virus Underground" sounds like a bad nightclub.
Well he _is_ listening to Iron Maiden.
"it takes a look at the world of malware scripters, virus writers and worm designers."
I guess my initial reaction was fsck 'em. Fsck 'em all. However, it could be suggested that they have made corporations and governments aware of many intrinsic insecurities in certain popular operating systems which may have prevented some larger potential catastrophe. The problem for these guys, is that we will never know and they will continue to be reviled and hated as losers. (That is unless they are talented enough to score a job with Symantec, the NSA or some other organization dealing with comp. security.)
That may be a side effect in very few cases, but for the most part I think it's safe to say there is no redeeming factor to any virus or its author.
That sounds a lot like Bill Gates argument on why Windows is the most secure operating system available. Not that I agree with Bill about windows, but you make a pretty good point. I don't see how something can be very secure without some real-world testing. Now if I could just get my coworkers to stop opening up every attatchment in their inboxes.:) -
It's true that virus writers are malevalent and don't have pure intentions when hacking their scripts and all, but in a general sense, where would our security be without virus writers?
If you consider computer security like the human immune system, then perhaps it may be seen that these people (while malicious) allow security to keep up with that hacks that can be done. If you kept a person in a bubble for twenty years and then promptly released him into the dirty, disease-ridden world he'd likely get sick and potentially die pretty quickly, as his body has no capacity to survive the world. However, with immunizations (i.e. intentional delivery of malicious agents in small doses, possibly on some schedule) and just general exposure to the germs in the world, most people have no problem surviving this world. Yes, MyDoom, and Trojans, and all the other viruses are more than nuisances and they cost people time, money, data, and other things, but these are in relatively small doses. If we had been in a bubble free of viruses for all this time, then whenever we're released into the "real world", anybody could take advantage of all these exploits (open sockets, DDoS, back doors, etc.) at once and perhaps bring the whole infrastructure down.
It's the fact that virus writers are always developing viruses and releasing them that allows us to fix these problems individually, on a manageable time-scale. If they wanted to do some damage, maybe they should withhold all their viruses and unleash them all at once to cripple everything so much more.
If you make the biological systems analogy, you will also have to acknowledge that a diverse operating system ecosystem is critical to the health and well being of things, especially as the Internet becomes more widely available. We need Linux, IRIX, Solaris, Windows, OS X and embedded OS's to maintain the health of things.
Like really virulent biological virii, computer virii that work this way will limit the extent to which they can spread......unless of course.......they work out slightly more sophisticated methods of damage, or they delay the damage for a period of time before "expressing" themselves.
Yeah stupid people... Like, I dont NEED to watch tv - if I want to read a book, I just switch off the box... There, its off. Off. But... I think there's that Springer special on at 3. I'll just watch 10 minutes of it.
Oh, Ive got to SMS my mate to tell him about these transvestite lesbians having a fist fight...
Can you REALLY just turn em off? These tools are more addictive than caffine to us lowly consumers.
Why are people still using IE? Firebird rocks.
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I personally hated Netscape (5+) and equally disliked Mozilla. Mostly because they were ugly as hell, took up half the screen with huge buttons and ran like shit. I really truly prefered (and would still prefer IE)
Then I installed Firebird. It is browser heaven! I cant believe self confessed nerds would even consider starting IE after they made, or even installed their first Firebird extention... "Click to view flash objects" plugin - fucking hell, my eyes have stopped hurting when I browse now...
THe only reason 80%+ of slashdotters use IE is because they've never tried Firebird.
Forget IE, Opera, Netscape, Mozilla. They aren't suited to your average joe, let alone us nerds. Get Firebird NOW!
What you really need to consider when analysing the details of this legislation is how the overall... ah, the overall... Oh who am I kidding? FIRST POST!!!!
Everyone know that light from CNN takes over 5 1/2 years to reach slashdot. So while you are only seeing the story appear now, the event actually occurred in 1998...
Wow, these racist posts are getting pretty full on - racial slurs about black americans get modded down into oblivion and racial slurs about anyone else get modded to the stars.
It seems like the time is right to split slashdot into us.slashdot.org and wholeworld.slashdot.org.
Or maybe under14s.slashdot.org and over14s.slashdot.org
My client realises that he was both trolling and making a joke involving a highly discrimiated minority group of Australia, but thought no one would notice it if he obfusicated in some code...
Um, I looked all over their site a few time searching for the hypocrisy you speak of. I can't say it jumped out at me.
Now, a slashdotter blindly judging a large group of people without bothering to research their claims... that sounds a little on the hypocritical side I'd say.
Well ardour is great, but it is really not up to ProTools/Cubase/Sonar standards. Its more like an N-Track (well, I think its better than n-track)
It really is a problem with Linux - although there is a great audio development community, without the big apps such as the big multitracks, and fruityloop/reason etc there is a massive Windows/Mac market we are missing out on.
Electronic music is huge - and zillions of people are running there computers SOLEY for the music apps (I have a machine here dedicated to just playing VST instruments!)
Someone in another thread said Linux was 7-8 years behind in terms of audio apps, and I reckon they are right.
Yep - no one in Japan is going to buy second hand (except for us Gaigin!). I had to dump 2 computers, an amazing weltron 2007 record player, a microwave and an awesome tv when I left Japan - all of it came from "big garbage" days.
Man, recycling in Japan would be a financial tragedy for foreign English teachers!
NDA's have become so stupidly overused because groups of 20 year old guys, with dreams of millions, who think that a business model is that nude woman wearing a tie on their desktop, want to feel like a real company.
I've been asked to sign NDA's for some pretty stupid things - "We need some audio for this game - it's a first person shooter... but it's set on the moon!" "Our system actually lets the average end user change the text on their websites!" For fuck sake.
The idea of "trust no one" is ugly and insidious. I have recently switched to Linux and it took me a VERY long time to understand the Open Source model. I still can't believe I can change the source if I want.
Tell others about open source and their reactions range from "You computer hippies" to "You terrorists" (Ok, mostly its "stop talking about computers you nerd, this is a pub").
People get pretty protective of their latest greatest idea. Which is understandable. The main problem with keeping secrets is that YOUR IDEA IS NOT ORIGINAL. That's not a bad thing but really, just do it and stop trying to stop others doing it.
we've got a McDonald's No. 5 super-size offering
It has been mentioned at above, but this comment really is the crux of the problem for microsoft. People are beginning to realise that Macdonalds only offers a small range of choice and those choices all taste the same.
We dont want the same shit repackaged and remarketed - we want better stuff not cheaper stuff.
Yeah, port 3127 is used for DoS attacks on Microsoft. Its best to leave it open.
Well if you ask me:
;)
/. -- You don't need to read the article.
:) -
Well I'm used to using tools which take care of that for you so sometimes I don't think about it. Besides, it's safer to copy and paste........
This is
Actually, what we need is a virus that, in the email headers, adds: X-Idiot-Who-Sent-This: (and variations thereof) to all the emails it sends. Fake the From: address, sure. But I'd like to know who the person is that I should LART for the 100,000 copies of MyDoom that I keep getting. Especially to addresses that I've given out or never even used.
Du-uh -- everyone knows worms live underground !
"The Virus Underground" sounds like a bad nightclub.
Well he _is_ listening to Iron Maiden.
"it takes a look at the world of malware scripters, virus writers and worm designers." I guess my initial reaction was fsck 'em. Fsck 'em all. However, it could be suggested that they have made corporations and governments aware of many intrinsic insecurities in certain popular operating systems which may have prevented some larger potential catastrophe. The problem for these guys, is that we will never know and they will continue to be reviled and hated as losers. (That is unless they are talented enough to score a job with Symantec, the NSA or some other organization dealing with comp. security.)
That may be a side effect in very few cases, but for the most part I think it's safe to say there is no redeeming factor to any virus or its author.
That sounds a lot like Bill Gates argument on why Windows is the most secure operating system available. Not that I agree with Bill about windows, but you make a pretty good point. I don't see how something can be very secure without some real-world testing. Now if I could just get my coworkers to stop opening up every attatchment in their inboxes.
It's true that virus writers are malevalent and don't have pure intentions when hacking their scripts and all, but in a general sense, where would our security be without virus writers?
If you consider computer security like the human immune system, then perhaps it may be seen that these people (while malicious) allow security to keep up with that hacks that can be done. If you kept a person in a bubble for twenty years and then promptly released him into the dirty, disease-ridden world he'd likely get sick and potentially die pretty quickly, as his body has no capacity to survive the world. However, with immunizations (i.e. intentional delivery of malicious agents in small doses, possibly on some schedule) and just general exposure to the germs in the world, most people have no problem surviving this world. Yes, MyDoom, and Trojans, and all the other viruses are more than nuisances and they cost people time, money, data, and other things, but these are in relatively small doses. If we had been in a bubble free of viruses for all this time, then whenever we're released into the "real world", anybody could take advantage of all these exploits (open sockets, DDoS, back doors, etc.) at once and perhaps bring the whole infrastructure down. It's the fact that virus writers are always developing viruses and releasing them that allows us to fix these problems individually, on a manageable time-scale. If they wanted to do some damage, maybe they should withhold all their viruses and unleash them all at once to cripple everything so much more.
If you make the biological systems analogy, you will also have to acknowledge that a diverse operating system ecosystem is critical to the health and well being of things, especially as the Internet becomes more widely available. We need Linux, IRIX, Solaris, Windows, OS X and embedded OS's to maintain the health of things.
Like really virulent biological virii, computer virii that work this way will limit the extent to which they can spread......unless of course.......they work out slightly more sophisticated methods of damage, or they delay the damage for a period of time before "expressing" themselves.
Ahh, so easy with a dupe
...that I post to slashdot. Oh dear.
Yeah stupid people... Like, I dont NEED to watch tv - if I want to read a book, I just switch off the box... There, its off. Off. But... I think there's that Springer special on at 3. I'll just watch 10 minutes of it.
Oh, Ive got to SMS my mate to tell him about these transvestite lesbians having a fist fight...
Can you REALLY just turn em off? These tools are more addictive than caffine to us lowly consumers.
I personally hated Netscape (5+) and equally disliked Mozilla. Mostly because they were ugly as hell, took up half the screen with huge buttons and ran like shit. I really truly prefered (and would still prefer IE)
Then I installed Firebird. It is browser heaven! I cant believe self confessed nerds would even consider starting IE after they made, or even installed their first Firebird extention... "Click to view flash objects" plugin - fucking hell, my eyes have stopped hurting when I browse now...
THe only reason 80%+ of slashdotters use IE is because they've never tried Firebird.
Forget IE, Opera, Netscape, Mozilla. They aren't suited to your average joe, let alone us nerds. Get Firebird NOW!
What you really need to consider when analysing the details of this legislation is how the overall... ah, the overall... Oh who am I kidding? FIRST POST!!!!
Why would I want sythesised regular ol' people when I can have the singing monk? Huh?
Is this the LCD picture frame project from this cool linux projects book? I guess this is as close as a mirror so far...
Everyone know that light from CNN takes over 5 1/2 years to reach slashdot. So while you are only seeing the story appear now, the event actually occurred in 1998...
That doesn't sound like your average drum machine/ synth/ sampler powered band at all!
For cool music robots and contraptions no one beats these guys from Japan. They are extremely twisted but spookily and well dressed.
Keep reading the thread - you'll read a bid of Linus, and a comforting explaination of whats happenin' back there.
...thats like, 10025062 units of Debian that the plaintiffs can use to give to family and friends.
Contact syncronisation is good, but I personally liked the MS Outlook Add-on that let me syncronise my Half-Life 2 source with Valve's.
Wow, these racist posts are getting pretty full on - racial slurs about black americans get modded down into oblivion and racial slurs about anyone else get modded to the stars.
It seems like the time is right to split slashdot into us.slashdot.org and wholeworld.slashdot.org.
Or maybe under14s.slashdot.org and over14s.slashdot.org
It may have exploded due to being in close proximity to a WiFi network, or an AM radio...
You see Mr President Bush Native American Indian,
My client realises that he was both trolling and making a joke involving a highly discrimiated minority group of Australia, but thought no one would notice it if he obfusicated in some code...
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Um, I looked all over their site a few time searching for the hypocrisy you speak of. I can't say it jumped out at me.
Now, a slashdotter blindly judging a large group of people without bothering to research their claims... that sounds a little on the hypocritical side I'd say.
Anything on this page ought to go down well... NEC showcase
Well obviously when you blast asteroids as per the game of which we speak, some there is magic asteroid dust that gets lost each time.
Didn't you ever notice that the asteroids never tessellated? Sheesh.
Are asteroids usually measured in "small house"'s? In the atari game, do they start out the size of 4 small houses?
Well ardour is great, but it is really not up to ProTools/Cubase/Sonar standards. Its more like an N-Track (well, I think its better than n-track)
It really is a problem with Linux - although there is a great audio development community, without the big apps such as the big multitracks, and fruityloop/reason etc there is a massive Windows/Mac market we are missing out on.
Electronic music is huge - and zillions of people are running there computers SOLEY for the music apps (I have a machine here dedicated to just playing VST instruments!)
Someone in another thread said Linux was 7-8 years behind in terms of audio apps, and I reckon they are right.
...getting linux ready for windows users.
Yep - no one in Japan is going to buy second hand (except for us Gaigin!). I had to dump 2 computers, an amazing weltron 2007 record player, a microwave and an awesome tv when I left Japan - all of it came from "big garbage" days.
Man, recycling in Japan would be a financial tragedy for foreign English teachers!
NDA's have become so stupidly overused because groups of 20 year old guys, with dreams of millions, who think that a business model is that nude woman wearing a tie on their desktop, want to feel like a real company.
I've been asked to sign NDA's for some pretty stupid things - "We need some audio for this game - it's a first person shooter... but it's set on the moon!" "Our system actually lets the average end user change the text on their websites!" For fuck sake.
The idea of "trust no one" is ugly and insidious. I have recently switched to Linux and it took me a VERY long time to understand the Open Source model. I still can't believe I can change the source if I want.
Tell others about open source and their reactions range from "You computer hippies" to "You terrorists" (Ok, mostly its "stop talking about computers you nerd, this is a pub").
People get pretty protective of their latest greatest idea. Which is understandable. The main problem with keeping secrets is that YOUR IDEA IS NOT ORIGINAL. That's not a bad thing but really, just do it and stop trying to stop others doing it.