I agree, but if any of the tracks from an album have been included on compilations, then they do not have an artistic leg to stand on, with regards to this anyway.
So bored? So bored? You don't know what bored is!
When I were a lad, during t'cold war, we lived in PNG. To fly there from London we 'ad to fly London -> Abu Dhabi/Bahrain -> Singapore/Hong Kong (-> Brisbane maybe) -> Port Moresby. This took 28-36 hours a day - and thats if there were no you-can-leave-the-terminal type stop overs. No "12 hour, oh I don't 'ave me laptop" flights for us! "What's a laptop?" we would say! And them were the days when you 'ad to pay for t'head phones too, which were no more 'an two plastic tubes. We 'ad to quickly unplug our brother's 'eadphones an' blow up the plug before 'e 'ad time to take 'em from 'is ears for entertainment.
One problem though, is that you are sounding exactly like the terrorists.
You seem to think that responding by killing 1000s of innocent citizens* of another country because their government may have willingly harboured terrorists** is acceptable.
How is that any more acceptable than terrorists killing 1000s of innocent civilians to make their point? That is is a government doing it? What? Seriously?
*really, travel more! 99.9% of the people you meet want the same things - a roof over their head, food in their belly, medical care and education for them and their family. They really could not give a crap about that much else.
**support for the IRA from the USA prior to 9/11 "a little something for the cause" (but perhaps still ongoing) really makes any kind of moral stance a little hypocritical.
"is the law in Britain to take (and store) DNA samples when you are simply arrested?"
Yes. It happened to my potential brother in law (PBIL).
Two days before he was set to move back out here (Oz) his best mate, who he was staying with at the time, had some money stolen by his ex-girlfriend. She pointed the finger at my PBIL. Despite the fact that his friend stated that it could not possibly have been my PBIL, the police asked him to come down the station for an interview. He did, after all he had nothing to hide and wanted to help his mate recover his property.
He was arrested, fingerprinted, DNA sampled and made to stay in a (freezing) cell overnight. The times on the "reciept" (I do not know the official term) are wrong, implying he was released immediately after he was arrested - which is utter BS.
His mate's ex has since been charged and convicted (well, fined).
His DNA and fingerprints will be kept on record.
As part of the process of getting permanent residency here, he has to get a police report for every country he has lived in during the past X (five?) years. On his UK police report he was "not convicted". The report implies that he got away with it, not that he was completely innocent.
I do not think may people here are against the existence of publishers and distributors, just against them using money to achieve a legal block to consumers seeking alternatives.
The whole point of mines is to slow down or channel an attack. Fewer troops/hardware get to attack the defender in a given amount of time, either by narrowing the front, being blown up or by having to slow down to disable the mines. This means the defender can use less troops/hardware to defend said area which in turn allows more flexibility for the bigger picture.
I remember reading that in WWII Zhokov (USSR General) would attack (well, actually, he wouldn't attack, he would send others to do it, but I am sure you get the picture) over a mine field in exactly the same way as they would if the same area had protection from artillery and/or armour because the end result would be more or less the same.
If they slowed down the attack to disable mines, the Germans would simply have the time to improve other defenses, move artillery or armour in to counter attack etc. If they allowed themselves to get channelled then they would get clobbered by the artillery waiting for this very thing.
"Of course not, and there is no reason to do so since every Mac comes with OSX"
Except for upgrading of course... I mean nobody had a legal version of windows pre XP and upgraded to a pirated, me hearties, version of XP.
"There is no other product outside of computers where the entire functionality thereof is NOT provided by the manufacturer thereof. Windows PC computers are unique in this."
Except of course that they do not have to be *Windows* PCs.
(on a side note, the entire functionality is not provided by the OS either. Also, there is rarely any product where everything is provided by the manufacturer, does Toyota make the nuts and bolts it uses?).
Any corporation will use almost any method they can to extract money from "customers", be they Apple or MS. The higher the market share the more the corporation can get away with.
"With Apple you are the owner of the computer, with MS, they own it and you are just a renter who has to abide by the lease agreement (EULA and activation) or you get evicted (computer shuts down)."
MS owns the software, not the computer. You are free to install the OS of your choice. This is exactly the same on a wintel box or a mac. I cannot freely distribute the OSX software that came with my iBook.
My point was why make a fuss about moving to Apple? They are a corporation just like any other. If having complete ownership of your OS is an ideal then an open source OS is really the only way.
Don't get me wrong. I have an iBook G4. Even though the geek in me prefers using linux, OSX is IMHO what a desktop OS should be.
But... Apple have taken an open source OS added some stuff and then closed it. They remove posts of forums which point out bugs/problems with their products etc.
I do not think Apple hold much of a higher moral ground and if they had MS's market share they would probably be doing similar things and everyone would be making posts like "My next PC will be a Wintel".
Corporations are not your friend, so why take any sides? Use them as much as they use you.
Unfortunately there is not really an *AA analogy as music/movies do not have source code.
GPL is essentially, you can do what you will with my software, but if you modify it and distribute it you must make the source code, including the changes you have made to it, available for free.
*AA wants to control what you do with your possessions e.g. you cannot play a DVD you legally purchased in Australia in a DVD player you legally purchased in the US and if you try to modify the DVD player that you own so you can play it, we want to be able to make you a criminal.
Hours worked != productivity. You are reading slashdot, so I would guess that you are a "knowledge worker". I am surprised you do not realise this. Especially as...
"honestly - do you EVER see these guys working?"
Let me see you hands... They don't look like construction workers hands.
Carry around some bricks sometime. You will realise why they need to stand around quite often.
"There has not been a comparable increase in output compared with the increase in wages and benefits,"
Ho ho ho ho ho, he he he he he, ha ha ha ha ha!
So how come the western world continually produces more waste per capita year on year?
I would argue that output has increased because the increase in wages and benefits allows people to buy more crap, not the otherway around.
I used FC2, but moved to Ubuntu instead of upgrading to FC5.
Package managers are all much of a muchness. dkpg works very similarily to rpm, apt like yum etc etc. After all there is only so many ways you can download an archive, extract and keep track of what is extracted from it.
The Ubuntu repositories are better/easier to use/less hassle than FC, basically because there are not the competeing repositories (dag, rpm forge, etc) for software with, you know, stuff nobody needs like mplayer, xine, vlc, mp3 support, all that waste of time on a desktop PC kinda stuff.
Admittedly this got a lot better between FC2 and 4, and I am aware of the FC policy/philosphy, but Ubuntu is better/easier from this perspective, enable *niverse and away you go.
"So you think it's perfectly fair and reasonable to ask others, be it MS or random Joe Coder, to reinvent the wheel simply because the license on your software precludes their use of your code with theirs, possibly due to reasons outide their control."
In the words of Team America, f@#k yeah!
They openly attempt to stop anyone else reinvent the wheel, through their suppor of software patents, DMCA, DRM etc, let alone allow their code to be used by ANYONE other than them.
"How was it, again, that you are better than MS?"
s/you are/OSS is/
In the you scratch my back I'll scratch yours as opposed to you stab me in the back and I'll pay you for it way.
Slashdot Mirror
By taking away their cheese.
Torrents have never killed anyone.
I agree, but if any of the tracks from an album have been included on compilations, then they do not have an artistic leg to stand on, with regards to this anyway.
Assuming you are being serious and that was not a whooshing sound passing overhead... sounds interesting, got a link/name/whatever?
So bored? So bored? You don't know what bored is! When I were a lad, during t'cold war, we lived in PNG. To fly there from London we 'ad to fly London -> Abu Dhabi/Bahrain -> Singapore/Hong Kong (-> Brisbane maybe) -> Port Moresby. This took 28-36 hours a day - and thats if there were no you-can-leave-the-terminal type stop overs. No "12 hour, oh I don't 'ave me laptop" flights for us! "What's a laptop?" we would say! And them were the days when you 'ad to pay for t'head phones too, which were no more 'an two plastic tubes. We 'ad to quickly unplug our brother's 'eadphones an' blow up the plug before 'e 'ad time to take 'em from 'is ears for entertainment.
One problem though, is that you are sounding exactly like the terrorists.
You seem to think that responding by killing 1000s of innocent citizens* of another country because their government may have willingly harboured terrorists** is acceptable.
How is that any more acceptable than terrorists killing 1000s of innocent civilians to make their point? That is is a government doing it? What? Seriously?
*really, travel more! 99.9% of the people you meet want the same things - a roof over their head, food in their belly, medical care and education for them and their family. They really could not give a crap about that much else.
**support for the IRA from the USA prior to 9/11 "a little something for the cause" (but perhaps still ongoing) really makes any kind of moral stance a little hypocritical.
Would they need to open the existsing drivers?
Surely just releasing API specs would be enough?
One can only pray that these heathen Jedi will one day drop their lightsabres and be touched by his noodly appendage.
"is the law in Britain to take (and store) DNA samples when you are simply arrested?"
Yes. It happened to my potential brother in law (PBIL).
Two days before he was set to move back out here (Oz) his best mate, who he was staying with at the time, had some money stolen by his ex-girlfriend. She pointed the finger at my PBIL. Despite the fact that his friend stated that it could not possibly have been my PBIL, the police asked him to come down the station for an interview. He did, after all he had nothing to hide and wanted to help his mate recover his property.
He was arrested, fingerprinted, DNA sampled and made to stay in a (freezing) cell overnight. The times on the "reciept" (I do not know the official term) are wrong, implying he was released immediately after he was arrested - which is utter BS.
His mate's ex has since been charged and convicted (well, fined).
His DNA and fingerprints will be kept on record.
As part of the process of getting permanent residency here, he has to get a police report for every country he has lived in during the past X (five?) years. On his UK police report he was "not convicted". The report implies that he got away with it, not that he was completely innocent.
I do not think may people here are against the existence of publishers and distributors, just against them using money to achieve a legal block to consumers seeking alternatives.
Huh?!
Is that not what a lot of IT companies do, i.e. customize something for the end user?
The whole point of mines is to slow down or channel an attack. Fewer troops/hardware get to attack the defender in a given amount of time, either by narrowing the front, being blown up or by having to slow down to disable the mines. This means the defender can use less troops/hardware to defend said area which in turn allows more flexibility for the bigger picture.
I remember reading that in WWII Zhokov (USSR General) would attack (well, actually, he wouldn't attack, he would send others to do it, but I am sure you get the picture) over a mine field in exactly the same way as they would if the same area had protection from artillery and/or armour because the end result would be more or less the same.
If they slowed down the attack to disable mines, the Germans would simply have the time to improve other defenses, move artillery or armour in to counter attack etc. If they allowed themselves to get channelled then they would get clobbered by the artillery waiting for this very thing.
Essentially, there was no net gain either way.
At the end of it all it is simply a numbers game.
'sure as hell don't check with the board of directors or the accounting office before "picking up a wandering child"'
Of course they do! How would they collect the bonus they are due when they take it straight to the sweat shop to help make some more shoes!
"Of course not, and there is no reason to do so since every Mac comes with OSX" Except for upgrading of course... I mean nobody had a legal version of windows pre XP and upgraded to a pirated, me hearties, version of XP. "There is no other product outside of computers where the entire functionality thereof is NOT provided by the manufacturer thereof. Windows PC computers are unique in this." Except of course that they do not have to be *Windows* PCs. (on a side note, the entire functionality is not provided by the OS either. Also, there is rarely any product where everything is provided by the manufacturer, does Toyota make the nuts and bolts it uses?). Any corporation will use almost any method they can to extract money from "customers", be they Apple or MS. The higher the market share the more the corporation can get away with.
"With Apple you are the owner of the computer, with MS, they own it and you are just a renter who has to abide by the lease agreement (EULA and activation) or you get evicted (computer shuts down)." MS owns the software, not the computer. You are free to install the OS of your choice. This is exactly the same on a wintel box or a mac. I cannot freely distribute the OSX software that came with my iBook. My point was why make a fuss about moving to Apple? They are a corporation just like any other. If having complete ownership of your OS is an ideal then an open source OS is really the only way.
"It is NOT immoral to join the military. Without it, we would not be free."
1) Are you really free?
2) If there were no soldiers*, who would take away your freedom?
*this includes anyone who uses force, for themselves or as a proxy, to assert their will over anyone else.
Nope, it should be: In Redmond only old people throw chairs.
Don't get me wrong. I have an iBook G4. Even though the geek in me prefers using linux, OSX is IMHO what a desktop OS should be. But... Apple have taken an open source OS added some stuff and then closed it. They remove posts of forums which point out bugs/problems with their products etc. I do not think Apple hold much of a higher moral ground and if they had MS's market share they would probably be doing similar things and everyone would be making posts like "My next PC will be a Wintel". Corporations are not your friend, so why take any sides? Use them as much as they use you.
Bin Laden does not kill "innocent" people either. Non-muslims are guilty of, well, being non-muslims.
"which results in less overall cost, which results in savings passed to the consumer."
I'll believe it when I see it.
New releases are AU$7 at my local video shop 2 mins walk away open 10am to 10pm 7 days. We watch most films we want to watch at the cinema anyway.
Better be very cheap, if they want me to help with distribution!
No it is not.
Unfortunately there is not really an *AA analogy as music/movies do not have source code.
GPL is essentially, you can do what you will with my software, but if you modify it and distribute it you must make the source code, including the changes you have made to it, available for free.
*AA wants to control what you do with your possessions e.g. you cannot play a DVD you legally purchased in Australia in a DVD player you legally purchased in the US and if you try to modify the DVD player that you own so you can play it, we want to be able to make you a criminal.
How on earth is there any similarity?
"40 hours when they only do 37 hours of work"
Hours worked != productivity. You are reading slashdot, so I would guess that you are a "knowledge worker". I am surprised you do not realise this. Especially as...
"honestly - do you EVER see these guys working?"
Let me see you hands... They don't look like construction workers hands.
Carry around some bricks sometime. You will realise why they need to stand around quite often.
"There has not been a comparable increase in output compared with the increase in wages and benefits,"
Ho ho ho ho ho, he he he he he, ha ha ha ha ha!
So how come the western world continually produces more waste per capita year on year?
I would argue that output has increased because the increase in wages and benefits allows people to buy more crap, not the otherway around.
I used FC2, but moved to Ubuntu instead of upgrading to FC5. Package managers are all much of a muchness. dkpg works very similarily to rpm, apt like yum etc etc. After all there is only so many ways you can download an archive, extract and keep track of what is extracted from it. The Ubuntu repositories are better/easier to use/less hassle than FC, basically because there are not the competeing repositories (dag, rpm forge, etc) for software with, you know, stuff nobody needs like mplayer, xine, vlc, mp3 support, all that waste of time on a desktop PC kinda stuff. Admittedly this got a lot better between FC2 and 4, and I am aware of the FC policy/philosphy, but Ubuntu is better/easier from this perspective, enable *niverse and away you go.
Ok then...
In Democratic America Nuclear Bombs You!
In America, only old people use nuclear bombs.
1. Build nuclear bombs
2. ???
3. Profit!
Anyone else...
"So you think it's perfectly fair and reasonable to ask others, be it MS or random Joe Coder, to reinvent the wheel simply because the license on your software precludes their use of your code with theirs, possibly due to reasons outide their control." In the words of Team America, f@#k yeah! They openly attempt to stop anyone else reinvent the wheel, through their suppor of software patents, DMCA, DRM etc, let alone allow their code to be used by ANYONE other than them. "How was it, again, that you are better than MS?" s/you are/OSS is/ In the you scratch my back I'll scratch yours as opposed to you stab me in the back and I'll pay you for it way.