Everybody knows European MPs (Member of Parliament) are next to useless anyway... I don't even need to read the interview to tell you she is a fscking moron.
Seriously, though, almost *anyone* can get elected to the European Parliament, and the *real* decisions are not made in Strasbourg (Euro Parliament home town) they are made in Brussels, Belgium, either through the European Commission or through high-level talks between the different European governments.
Of course, this might change in the near future, with the new European 'Constitution', but it will probably change for the better, by making sure more intelligent people are elected.
I think you answered your own rebuttal when you wrote:
Yes, the *BSDs where cle[a]nsed in the beginning of the 90ies from the old AT&T so[ur]cecode license ghost, but this deal is about supposedly *new* IP developed by SCO.
Specifically, SCO is suing IBM because IBM supposedly integrated SCO Intellectual Property (IP) to the Linux kernel.
Since IBM has not -- AFAIK -- collaborated with [Free|Net|Open]BSD, and has not supplied any specific help to these groups, it follows logically that, whatever IP was "stolen" from SCO, it was not, repeat NOT integrated into the different kernels of the *BSDs.
This is, of course, assuming that SCO actually has some serious proof on its side -- which is pure conjecture at this stage of the law suit.
So, allow me to sum up:
SCO is suing IBM, allegedly because big blue stole some sort of "secret recipe" from SCO to integrate it into Linux.
IBM -- again, AFAIK -- never collaborated with the BSDs, and the BSDs are therfore immune to the law suit
Given these two points, I am afraid the thesis of my previous post still stands.
Som people have said: well, yes, but if Linux is gone, what will happen to the BSDs? They will become proprietary!
The simple answer is to say that the BSDs will continue to exist, simply because it's easy to download the last "free" (BSD-licensed) version and to start all over again. And if the worst happens, I am sure there will be people who will do just that.
Besides, there are already two foundations (the FreeBSD Foundation and the NetBSD Foundation) doing just that: making sure that these Oses stay "free".
Just like there is nothing to prevent anyone and their grand mother from creating their own Linux distribution, there is nothing to prevent you from creating your own branch of BSD.
Actualy, this is exactly what happened rather recently, since OpenBSD is an offshoot/fork of NetBSD. Not to mention things like WarBSD, Darwin, and several others...
Several years ago, I bought the "Unix Haters Handbook". No matter what you think of the central idea of the book (Unix is Evil), there was a sentence that I vaguely remember, in the NFS chapter: "NFS triumphed because it was free, not because it was technically superior". The same thing is -- IMHO -- true for Linux and the BSDs.
So, please, don't panic. Linux is here to stay, no matter how much FUD SCO is spewing.
Frankly, I am getting sick and tired of this whole SCO hoopla. The facts of the case can be summed up as follows:
SCO is dying (and no, this is not a joke).
Even if Linux was to suffer from this ridiculous law suit, there is always [Free|Net|Open]BSD, systems that certainly do not include any code from SCO (otherwise, they would be named).
So, not matter what happens, open source will survive. GNU/Linux may suffer, but not other systems.
The SCO law suit will probably go down in history in the same category as the stupid congressmen that bad-mouth the GPL. Namely, the trashcan.
Oh, and while you are at it, what about cheap, plentiful, non-polluting energy sources (nuclear power does not qualify, sorry), decent food, shelter and health care, clean air & water for everyone on earth?
And could you reduce pollution while you are at it?
And make sure third-world country finally enjoy economic growth instead of destitution?
Oh, and if you have a little time left after all that, try to bring some decency and peace to the world community. Please. Pretty please??
Frankly, how can people dream about improving the human race while all these problems have been the norm for the past centuries?
This is ridiculous. Period.
Not to mention that most geneticists now seem to agree that man cannot even be cloned, let alone improved.
Please do continue your efforts to rip^H^H^H fleece^H^H^H^H^H^H provide "value-added" propositions to your customers through your wonderful License Agreement.
You are making my world domination^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H job so much easier.
I read that question and I thought "WTF? Spammers to get privacy? No way!!".
The Internet is, before anything else, a system based on sharing and cooperation. Which is what makes it so interesting: people who know what they talk about post interesting information on all kind of subjects, and enrich a global discourse.
Linux/Open Source systems are the best example of this: they were made possible -- and became a force in the computing world -- through sharing and cooperatino. For instance NetBSD added "Net" to "BSD" to reflect its root in the cooperation made possible by the Internet.
On the other hand, spammers do nothing but abuse the resources of the system and inundate people with messages that are othing more than complete scams.
Abusing the cooperation and the good will of the global Internet, and using its resources in an unlawful way (it's a scam, remember?), is IMHO, enough to forfeit all the protections that should be enjoyed by all on the Internet.
Would you protect the privacy of a live-and-still-at-large criminal? I think not. Would you protect the "privacy" of a con artist, knowing full well that he may rip off another person behind your back? I think not.
Remember this: spammers are swindlers. Period. No privay for the wicked, says I.
Besides, sending thousands of email messages per day, on a network known for it lack of security and authentication is just asking for trouble... (Proof enough that they are stupid as well as dishonest!)
Also interesting: go to Cryptome, and read all about two scam artists of a different kind: these two do not spam, but they swindled the public by offering snake-oil security products. Very, very interesting and recommended reading...
First Post in a TRIPLICATE April Fool post that is ruled, in Soviet Russia, by Beowulf cluster of nude Nathalie Portman, covered in hot grits and saying that BSD is DEAD, Doggoneit!!
Why not? And, by the way, make cows fly while you are at it, will you? Thanks.
Case in point: I publish data on a web site located somewhere in North America, using computers based in Europe, through the magic of OpenSSH. And my European ISP does not keep a log of my activities.
Most of the data I publish come from, for example, from web sites published in South-East Asia and China, which is translated by a friend who spends half his time in Taiwan and half his time in Japan, with an occasional stay in Korea.
Now, where on earth is my info created? In Asia, where my friend is, in Europe, where I do most of the web design, or in Northern America, where the web site is officially hosted?
Oh, and I forgot: the information is created using open-source products and a reasonable amount of paranoia, which means all data is anonymized before being posted.
Now, where does my data comes from?
And to those who think this is a silly example: it's actually close to the truth...;-)
I mean, I know you can probably detect a NAT box by looking at all the packets, but how many ISPs are going to do this? Honestly?
I mean, running your own server or sharing your 3l33t broadband connection between several machines are (AFAIK) the big interests -- or killer aps -- of broadband. (That, and mountains of pr0n and "FP!" on/., of course...);-)
If you can't do this, why not stay with 56K dial-up?
Er... wait, I have 56K dial-up and I can't stand it. Never mind me, carry on... =)
John R. Smith, of Peoria (Ill.) drove his brand-new SUV through the security glass doors of his bank, while following his GPS navigator.
"I was only following the indications of this @!!%!! machine -- and it told me I still needed to travel straight ahead for a hundred meters!", Smith tried to explain as he was taken into custody by the Peoria Police Department for "breaking and entering".
The Peoria Intercontinental Bank representatives were unavailable for comments.
Spider Man was probably the first, the last and the only movie I have ever seen that was actually faithful to a comic -- and Maguire was such a great Spider Man it's impossible to imagine a sequel without him!!
A principle factor is that America's business leaders simply don't want to think about complex technology issues - they want to think about golf. Microsoft promises them that, and being a large, and hugely successful corporation, they have high credibility with top business executives.
If this is true, the future of open source is dark, indeed... =(
Yep, I know. Their pop-ups are pretty weird, especially that fade-in/fade-out display.
They sent me an email, a long time ago, saying the pop-up could be disabled or some such. I have to find it and disable the *$$!!!! sucker... and update the web site (sigh)... =(
Slashdot Mirror
Speaking with Bugs Bunny voice:
"Of course you realize this means... WAR!!!"
(Steve J. hangs up and speed dials Apple Legal Dept. and DOJ...)
Everybody knows European MPs (Member of Parliament) are next to useless anyway... I don't even need to read the interview to tell you she is a fscking moron.
Seriously, though, almost *anyone* can get elected to the European Parliament, and the *real* decisions are not made in Strasbourg (Euro Parliament home town) they are made in Brussels, Belgium, either through the European Commission or through high-level talks between the different European governments.
Of course, this might change in the near future, with the new European 'Constitution', but it will probably change for the better, by making sure more intelligent people are elected.
Just my Euro 0.02...
Shoot, man, why did you have to write this?
After reading your post, I just *had* to open www.sex.com in a browser...
I used Lynx. Being at work and all that. Ahem.
Never mind me. Carry on...
But I have to ask the question:
Who still cares about BeOS?
This is not a troll or anything. I am just curious.
I was never able to use BeOS on my 'puters, since none of my graphics were supported, and, once I started using Linux and *BSD, I never looked back.
So, Be fans, what makes BeOS so special?
F-sharp?
F-UD?
Your forgot two:
Nah, don't even mention it, I am glad I could help! =)
I think you answered your own rebuttal when you wrote:
Yes, the *BSDs where cle[a]nsed in the beginning of the 90ies from the old AT&T so[ur]cecode license ghost, but this deal is about supposedly *new* IP developed by SCO.
Specifically, SCO is suing IBM because IBM supposedly integrated SCO Intellectual Property (IP) to the Linux kernel.
Since IBM has not -- AFAIK -- collaborated with [Free|Net|Open]BSD, and has not supplied any specific help to these groups, it follows logically that, whatever IP was "stolen" from SCO, it was not, repeat NOT integrated into the different kernels of the *BSDs.
This is, of course, assuming that SCO actually has some serious proof on its side -- which is pure conjecture at this stage of the law suit.
So, allow me to sum up:
Given these two points, I am afraid the thesis of my previous post still stands.
Som people have said: well, yes, but if Linux is gone, what will happen to the BSDs? They will become proprietary!
The simple answer is to say that the BSDs will continue to exist, simply because it's easy to download the last "free" (BSD-licensed) version and to start all over again. And if the worst happens, I am sure there will be people who will do just that.
Besides, there are already two foundations (the FreeBSD Foundation and the NetBSD Foundation) doing just that: making sure that these Oses stay "free".
Just like there is nothing to prevent anyone and their grand mother from creating their own Linux distribution, there is nothing to prevent you from creating your own branch of BSD.
Actualy, this is exactly what happened rather recently, since OpenBSD is an offshoot/fork of NetBSD. Not to mention things like WarBSD, Darwin, and several others...
Several years ago, I bought the "Unix Haters Handbook". No matter what you think of the central idea of the book (Unix is Evil), there was a sentence that I vaguely remember, in the NFS chapter: "NFS triumphed because it was free, not because it was technically superior". The same thing is -- IMHO -- true for Linux and the BSDs.
So, please, don't panic. Linux is here to stay, no matter how much FUD SCO is spewing.
So, not matter what happens, open source will survive. GNU/Linux may suffer, but not other systems.
The SCO law suit will probably go down in history in the same category as the stupid congressmen that bad-mouth the GPL. Namely, the trashcan.
I have just read your top 75 security tools list. Thank you for posting all this information, which I am going to study very carefully.
One question though: in all these tools, which one is your personal favourite? (This excludes Nmap, of course).
Thanks in advance!
In other news today:
George W. Bush and John Ashcroft to support a federal same-sex marriage bill...
Tibet to become independant within 48 hours, according to China's government...
FSF decides to disband, noting "Microsoft products are so vastly superior GNU has become a joke"...
Theo de Raadt decides to go back supporting NetBSD, cites "excellent security and portability"...
Film at 11.
(To keep the Australian flavour)
In other news today an Australian newspaper compared huge man-eating white sharks with soft, nice furry koalas.
The short version: Koalas are nicer (despite their sharp little teeths).
Sorry... Could not resist... =)
Improve mankind through genetics? Why not?
Oh, and while you are at it, what about cheap, plentiful, non-polluting energy sources (nuclear power does not qualify, sorry), decent food, shelter and health care, clean air & water for everyone on earth?
And could you reduce pollution while you are at it?
And make sure third-world country finally enjoy economic growth instead of destitution?
Oh, and if you have a little time left after all that, try to bring some decency and peace to the world community. Please. Pretty please??
Frankly, how can people dream about improving the human race while all these problems have been the norm for the past centuries?
This is ridiculous. Period.
Not to mention that most geneticists now seem to agree that man cannot even be cloned, let alone improved.
Case closed (as far as I am concerned).
IBM has those basements full of lawyers they feed only the blood of virgin geeks.
Virgin geeks?
Is there any other kind?
Please do continue your efforts to rip^H^H^H fleece^H^H^H^H^H^H provide "value-added" propositions to your customers through your wonderful License Agreement.
You are making my world domination^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H job so much easier.
Thank you so much in advance,
Yours respectfully,
Linus Torvalds
More DARPA $$ means more OpenBSD hacker working, so this is a good thing. Even though I understand Theo's problems, I think this is a good thing.
I read that question and I thought "WTF? Spammers to get privacy? No way!!".
The Internet is, before anything else, a system based on sharing and cooperation. Which is what makes it so interesting: people who know what they talk about post interesting information on all kind of subjects, and enrich a global discourse.
Linux/Open Source systems are the best example of this: they were made possible -- and became a force in the computing world -- through sharing and cooperatino. For instance NetBSD added "Net" to "BSD" to reflect its root in the cooperation made possible by the Internet.
On the other hand, spammers do nothing but abuse the resources of the system and inundate people with messages that are othing more than complete scams.
Abusing the cooperation and the good will of the global Internet, and using its resources in an unlawful way (it's a scam, remember?), is IMHO, enough to forfeit all the protections that should be enjoyed by all on the Internet.
Would you protect the privacy of a live-and-still-at-large criminal? I think not. Would you protect the "privacy" of a con artist, knowing full well that he may rip off another person behind your back? I think not.
Remember this: spammers are swindlers. Period. No privay for the wicked, says I.
Besides, sending thousands of email messages per day, on a network known for it lack of security and authentication is just asking for trouble... (Proof enough that they are stupid as well as dishonest!)
Also interesting: go to Cryptome, and read all about two scam artists of a different kind: these two do not spam, but they swindled the public by offering snake-oil security products. Very, very interesting and recommended reading...
First Post in a TRIPLICATE April Fool post that is ruled, in Soviet Russia, by Beowulf cluster of nude Nathalie Portman, covered in hot grits and saying that BSD is DEAD, Doggoneit!!
There... I feel better...
Geo-stamping data published on the www?
;-)
Why not? And, by the way, make cows fly while you are at it, will you? Thanks.
Case in point: I publish data on a web site located somewhere in North America, using computers based in Europe, through the magic of OpenSSH. And my European ISP does not keep a log of my activities.
Most of the data I publish come from, for example, from web sites published in South-East Asia and China, which is translated by a friend who spends half his time in Taiwan and half his time in Japan, with an occasional stay in Korea.
Now, where on earth is my info created? In Asia, where my friend is, in Europe, where I do most of the web design, or in Northern America, where the web site is officially hosted?
Oh, and I forgot: the information is created using open-source products and a reasonable amount of paranoia, which means all data is anonymized before being posted.
Now, where does my data comes from?
And to those who think this is a silly example: it's actually close to the truth...
I mean, I know you can probably detect a NAT box by looking at all the packets, but how many ISPs are going to do this? Honestly?
/., of course...) ;-)
I mean, running your own server or sharing your 3l33t broadband connection between several machines are (AFAIK) the big interests -- or killer aps -- of broadband. (That, and mountains of pr0n and "FP!" on
If you can't do this, why not stay with 56K dial-up?
Er... wait, I have 56K dial-up and I can't stand it. Never mind me, carry on... =)
This article is from the University of Toronto.
I have to say I was really skeptical when I read about this...
John R. Smith, of Peoria (Ill.) drove his brand-new SUV through the security glass doors of his bank, while following his GPS navigator.
"I was only following the indications of this @!!%!! machine -- and it told me I still needed to travel straight ahead for a hundred meters!", Smith tried to explain as he was taken into custody by the Peoria Police Department for "breaking and entering".
The Peoria Intercontinental Bank representatives were unavailable for comments.
Spider Man was probably the first, the last and the only movie I have ever seen that was actually faithful to a comic -- and Maguire was such a great Spider Man it's impossible to imagine a sequel without him!!
You mean... You mean... a Google just for pr0n???
Oh, you mean that googlewhack!
Erm... Hem... Uh, never mind. Carry on.
I have to say, this made me laugh:
One thing is clear, however, spammers will not listen to reason. So any change in their behavior will have to be the result of force.
Can I be the one who applies force? Pretty please?
(Just joking, as I only dream of applying force to the skull of the spammer after one spam too many...) =)
For the article:
A principle factor is that America's business leaders simply don't want to think about complex technology issues - they want to think about golf. Microsoft promises them that, and being a large, and hugely successful corporation, they have high credibility with top business executives.
If this is true, the future of open source is dark, indeed... =(
Yep, I know. Their pop-ups are pretty weird, especially that fade-in/fade-out display.
They sent me an email, a long time ago, saying the pop-up could be disabled or some such. I have to find it and disable the *$$!!!! sucker... and update the web site (sigh)... =(