As far as what you think of it, it is your opinion. I think it is very well phrased AND interesting. And it should be marked up because the guy had the presence of mind to find a quote that so aptly encapsulated with fine satire the situation found in the original post. Quotes are often very good at providing insight or framing meaning around circumstances. Is it because it was from a movie and not from a Greek or a German drug addled philosopher that you protest? Perhaps you don't appreciate satire, or perhaps have no sense of humour. Personally I think you must be a dry sort of person with a penchant for social and/or intellectual elitism.
Fucking retard moderators can't recognize one of the best movie monologues from the past 20 years? This is from Good Will Hunting and not a Star Wars episode, is that it? For one it is not a troll, it is relevant and a much more eloquent and entertaining opinion stated by others in this thread that state the same damned thing. Did you mark them as trolls too. No most were marked insightful or interesting. So come on, some moderator mark this up. But I think it will take a moderator who isn't suffering cerebral anoxia from having their head so far up their fucking ass. For what it's worth, well done for finding and posting this excellent quote.
The Swedes are already putting together a study on how the magnetic fields from this will cause brain cancer. I'm thinking hokey B scifi movies are now going to be considered visionary when the blood turbine powered light emitting diodes in the bionic eyes of people shut off when they die.
The project was to up upgrade the existing hydroelectric generating stations that currently generate a little over 1.9 Gigawatts of electricity from the waters of the Niagara River. The Niagara River (on which you will find Niagara Falls) flows between the two Great Lakes, Lake Erie and Lake Ontario. It will add around 200 MW of power generating capacity. Thiswould have been a better news release article and explains a bit of the "green" projects in Ontario.
There: all you ever wanted to know about WTF the OP's linked article should have told you. FWIW, I agree that the OP's linked article is pretty lame. But that's nothing new for mainstream journalism. But I have to admit, Canadian news media that were once pretty damned good, are now pretty damned weak (Leaving out important contextual information, inability to spell, lack of grammar skills, just not understanding what the fuck they are reporting on and too lazy to find out).
This is a very important point. The voice recordings will not make sense or give an accurate picture of what happened without being put in the proper context. In this case, the context of what was happening in the flight and what the aircraft told them about it in synchronization with the voice recordings. The voice recording on its own *could* give a completely misleading view of what happened otherwise.
I'm curious of whether this will help convict or exonerate Air Bus on their manslaughter charges.
They already took a copy.
But I do agree, a working-copy is ofcource a first step, after a copy of the original just in case...
I thought we were all computer professionals here?! Step one: Run all reports and fixes directly on a production system without testing. [duck-able comment/]
Until I can buy food or shelter with it, it isn't that relevant to me. If I take time to do work and only get paid in virtual currency that I can't use for survival, eventually I'll be living on the street and eating from garbage bins. That's because I will have used up my limited resource of time that I could have used to generate revenue that I can exchange for food or shelter.
Before we all jump on the bandwagon and cheer about how great this is, let's see how well the new laws are enforced before we get too excited. That is with respect to the Indian laws, which are already enacted or seem close to being so. As far as China goes, let's see what the actual laws are going to be, andhow well they are going to be enforced.
There are a lot of bureaucrats in both countries with deep pockets. And both of these countries are ranked pretty far up there in terms of the Corruption Perception Index. At least compared to North America and Europe. Which is why American and Canadian companies probably like doing business over there; and why European companies probably wish they could. At least North America and Europe will now be playing on the same level now... once they pay their bribes.
And it increases the costs of doing business with these countries.
Considering the corruption in these countries then I will have to agree with you. Companies will have to increase the amount of bribes they are probably already paying.
How was the guy able to use the laptop? Didn't the owner have a password plus encryption on it? Either he wasn't very bright, or he was so devious he left these things off so that any potential thief could use the laptop, thus allowing his "Prey" application to catch the miscreant. Very clever sir, very clever. Or not, whichever the case.
Because it is easier to control your system with a GUI than a command line. A picture is worth a thousand words, especially if you are monitoring various components across a large system. Nothing says the control systems themselves aren't running on specialized OS's, but what is wrong with exposing hooks for a GUI to control it with (and now-a-days you WILL need a GUI in a control room somewhere for most applications)? At least with Windows you know the risks and can at least mitigate if not eliminate them. It isn't any worse than running Linux for a GUI and trusting that it is safe since "no-one writes viruses for Linux." And as far as running control systems across a network, oil pipeline companies do it all the time. Or do you expect them to locate guys out in a hut with a telephone at every valve location in a thousand mile pipeline system? Hey Joe open the valve a little more. Not everything runs in one room.
I bought a mini disk recorder when they were out, so I could record myself when playing guitar in a blues band in Saint Louis. One guy had one (that wasn't a Sony) and I liked the sound. What I found out was that yes, the sound was great on the live recording, but because of DRM, Sony had disabled any way of downloading the data/music from the disk to my PC in any realistic time frame. The only way to do it was to play the entire four hours, recording it from the diskplayer/recorder to the PC. Sure I should have done better research on it, but wtf, who would expect a 'digital' recorder to not be able to interface with your PC. Anyway it went back to the store. Not long after, the DRM rootkit CD thing happened. I never bought another Sony product, and never will unless they have the only unit to do the job.
Yes. When you need to spend almost as much time learning how to and using the tools, processes, and configuration than actually producing code... then yes. And no it doesn't always help make better code. A lot of the time it takes time away from making code good.
Your sense of humour gets gruesome too. You reminded me of the time I had to walk by the heads on their way to the tongue and cheek line. The skinned heads with their eyes hanging out on the nerve stocks. There was a government inspector standing about 30 feet away so I yelled at her to come look at one of the heads going by. I said, "look! look at this one!" She came scooting up in a hurry and looked at it and of course didn't see anything wrong, so looked at me puzzled. I looked at her and said, "you'd better call a vet, this cow's lookin' a bit peaked.' She just looked disgusted with me and walked away. Yes, the sense of humour can 'turn' too in those places.:D
My first job as a full time IT person was as a network analyst at a meat plant that killed 3500 head of cattle a day. I took it because I was broke and needed the money right after school. The facility I worked at was their only Canadian operation and given the size, it required a Canadian office of around 200 people (accounting, procurement, sales, shipping, etc.). So they had to have a network admin on site. That would be me for the time I was there.
The "interesting" part of the job was the part when they told me that at other facilities that didn't have offices in them, they were administered remotely, but since I was there, I had to take care of the computers in the plant as well as the office. Nothing says "IT" like walking through blood as you pass the giant skinning machines that tear the whole hide from the cow in one shot. Or watching them trim the hooves off... about a foot (pun intended) up the leg on your way to the terminal in the blood room (it was literally called the blood room... every part is used). The worst part is the smell in the skinning a hide rooms. The sight of the skinned animals is nothing after a while. The smell in those rooms, that's another thing. Took me 20 or 30 minutes to get through the door the first time I had to go. I went for a salami sub right after... get back on the horse an all that or become vegan. I still eat meat. All that, and just make sure you wash your boots off before going back into the office. The "knocking station" where they "knocked" (killed the animals was for me a sad place. It was done quickly and humanely, but it did make me feel sad. You can literally see the 'light' going off in their eyes. Like I said, I still eat meat, and enjoy it. But I think everyone that eats meat should have to go through one of these plants to remind you where your hamburger really comes from. It isn't just a package in the supermarket. But that's just me.
I did that for seven months before getting into a programming shop. Thank God.
FWIW, the company had something like a dozen processing facilities and most of their IT work (new users, backups, etc) was done remotely by network admins in Wichita with help from techs on site who normally worked on industrial automation. They had a surprising number of systems that were required to run the plant, including Oracle databases, mail servers, network servers, VAX, AS/400, satellite uplink and downlink to futures markets, etc. Had to administer many of them, and backup all. Some were administered remotely (e.g. AS/400).
Gore worked on the bills that allowed the commercialization of the internet. So he was partially responsible for the 'net as we know it now. He never said he invented the internet. When will that myth end?
No keeping us sitting on the launch pad for five hours for no good reason. Take off or let us off till you're ready. Of course they can't even manage that now with planes.
Here is a theory: Economic times get tough. The best and most experienced (longest time in) IT people you have are paid the most. The suits decide that they need to trim the bottom line since business is down. They get rid of all those high priced IT guys and keep the low priced guys. Surprise IT is more complicated than the suits think and even though they are bright and well intentioned, the less experienced guys end up having to reinvent the wheel all the time since the bosses got rid of the wheel makers. Things ain't what they used to be...
I didn't say it wasn't civilized. Napoleon wanted a person to be charged only if the state had a really good case to prevent people from being thrown in jail indefinitely. The state is supposed to be able to go to trial quickly so they can't say they are keeping people while they are investigating. Common law evolved with rules to accomplish the same thing, but the idea of innocent until proven guilty doesn't in itself prevent it. A long time ago the state could come and throw you in jail while it did its investigations, even if that took a long time. That is why laws were developed so that the state generally can't hold you more than a set period of time (24, 58, 72 hours or whatever, depending on the state) before having to release you or are charged and started through the court system (which I think ends up being similar to Napoleonic law, n'est-ce pas?:).
Maybe some of the laws in Quebec are Napoleonic. But most are the same as the rest of Canada. We have one set of federal laws that extend to Quebec as well. And federal laws in Canada generally trump provincial laws. We don't have 'states rights'.
All it took was Airbus being charged by France with manslaughter over the crash. They spent the money to make a real effort to find the wreckage and black boxes this time; in an effort to get out of the charges.
For those who don't know, France follows Napoleonic Law, not Common Law like in Britain, Canada (and most other commonwealth countries), and of course, America. In common law you are innocent until proven guilty. In Napoleonic law, they don't file charges or (generally) put you in jail until investigation convinces authorities that you are guilty (as I understand it, if murder etc. is involved, they might put you in jail while they investigate, but you won't be charged until they are convinced you are guilty). You have to prove your innocence. So basically, the government is pretty certain they will be able to convict Airbus on the manslaughter charges if they actually charged them. And thus, the search is likely in the effort to prove their innocence, not in the effort of finding the truth to ensure this type of crash doesn't happen again.
I'm not sure if executives of a company can be put in prison for manslaughter if their company is convicted of it. Or of any other crime for that matter. If anyone knows that would be interesting to hear.
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As far as what you think of it, it is your opinion. I think it is very well phrased AND interesting. And it should be marked up because the guy had the presence of mind to find a quote that so aptly encapsulated with fine satire the situation found in the original post. Quotes are often very good at providing insight or framing meaning around circumstances. Is it because it was from a movie and not from a Greek or a German drug addled philosopher that you protest? Perhaps you don't appreciate satire, or perhaps have no sense of humour. Personally I think you must be a dry sort of person with a penchant for social and/or intellectual elitism.
Fucking retard moderators can't recognize one of the best movie monologues from the past 20 years? This is from Good Will Hunting and not a Star Wars episode, is that it? For one it is not a troll, it is relevant and a much more eloquent and entertaining opinion stated by others in this thread that state the same damned thing. Did you mark them as trolls too. No most were marked insightful or interesting. So come on, some moderator mark this up. But I think it will take a moderator who isn't suffering cerebral anoxia from having their head so far up their fucking ass. For what it's worth, well done for finding and posting this excellent quote.
The Swedes are already putting together a study on how the magnetic fields from this will cause brain cancer. I'm thinking hokey B scifi movies are now going to be considered visionary when the blood turbine powered light emitting diodes in the bionic eyes of people shut off when they die.
The project was to up upgrade the existing hydroelectric generating stations that currently generate a little over 1.9 Gigawatts of electricity from the waters of the Niagara River. The Niagara River (on which you will find Niagara Falls) flows between the two Great Lakes, Lake Erie and Lake Ontario. It will add around 200 MW of power generating capacity. Thiswould have been a better news release article and explains a bit of the "green" projects in Ontario.
There: all you ever wanted to know about WTF the OP's linked article should have told you. FWIW, I agree that the OP's linked article is pretty lame. But that's nothing new for mainstream journalism. But I have to admit, Canadian news media that were once pretty damned good, are now pretty damned weak (Leaving out important contextual information, inability to spell, lack of grammar skills, just not understanding what the fuck they are reporting on and too lazy to find out).
This is a very important point. The voice recordings will not make sense or give an accurate picture of what happened without being put in the proper context. In this case, the context of what was happening in the flight and what the aircraft told them about it in synchronization with the voice recordings. The voice recording on its own *could* give a completely misleading view of what happened otherwise.
I'm curious of whether this will help convict or exonerate Air Bus on their manslaughter charges.
They already took a copy. But I do agree, a working-copy is ofcource a first step, after a copy of the original just in case...
I thought we were all computer professionals here?! Step one: Run all reports and fixes directly on a production system without testing. [duck-able comment /]
Until I can buy food or shelter with it, it isn't that relevant to me. If I take time to do work and only get paid in virtual currency that I can't use for survival, eventually I'll be living on the street and eating from garbage bins. That's because I will have used up my limited resource of time that I could have used to generate revenue that I can exchange for food or shelter.
Before we all jump on the bandwagon and cheer about how great this is, let's see how well the new laws are enforced before we get too excited. That is with respect to the Indian laws, which are already enacted or seem close to being so. As far as China goes, let's see what the actual laws are going to be, and how well they are going to be enforced.
There are a lot of bureaucrats in both countries with deep pockets. And both of these countries are ranked pretty far up there in terms of the Corruption Perception Index. At least compared to North America and Europe. Which is why American and Canadian companies probably like doing business over there; and why European companies probably wish they could. At least North America and Europe will now be playing on the same level now... once they pay their bribes.
And it increases the costs of doing business with these countries.
Considering the corruption in these countries then I will have to agree with you. Companies will have to increase the amount of bribes they are probably already paying.
How was the guy able to use the laptop? Didn't the owner have a password plus encryption on it? Either he wasn't very bright, or he was so devious he left these things off so that any potential thief could use the laptop, thus allowing his "Prey" application to catch the miscreant. Very clever sir, very clever. Or not, whichever the case.
Smart people realize that they cannot multitask and do anything well... so they just don't.
Because it is easier to control your system with a GUI than a command line. A picture is worth a thousand words, especially if you are monitoring various components across a large system. Nothing says the control systems themselves aren't running on specialized OS's, but what is wrong with exposing hooks for a GUI to control it with (and now-a-days you WILL need a GUI in a control room somewhere for most applications)? At least with Windows you know the risks and can at least mitigate if not eliminate them. It isn't any worse than running Linux for a GUI and trusting that it is safe since "no-one writes viruses for Linux." And as far as running control systems across a network, oil pipeline companies do it all the time. Or do you expect them to locate guys out in a hut with a telephone at every valve location in a thousand mile pipeline system? Hey Joe open the valve a little more. Not everything runs in one room.
I bought a mini disk recorder when they were out, so I could record myself when playing guitar in a blues band in Saint Louis. One guy had one (that wasn't a Sony) and I liked the sound. What I found out was that yes, the sound was great on the live recording, but because of DRM, Sony had disabled any way of downloading the data/music from the disk to my PC in any realistic time frame. The only way to do it was to play the entire four hours, recording it from the diskplayer/recorder to the PC. Sure I should have done better research on it, but wtf, who would expect a 'digital' recorder to not be able to interface with your PC. Anyway it went back to the store. Not long after, the DRM rootkit CD thing happened. I never bought another Sony product, and never will unless they have the only unit to do the job.
Yes. When you need to spend almost as much time learning how to and using the tools, processes, and configuration than actually producing code... then yes. And no it doesn't always help make better code. A lot of the time it takes time away from making code good.
Your sense of humour gets gruesome too. You reminded me of the time I had to walk by the heads on their way to the tongue and cheek line. The skinned heads with their eyes hanging out on the nerve stocks. There was a government inspector standing about 30 feet away so I yelled at her to come look at one of the heads going by. I said, "look! look at this one!" She came scooting up in a hurry and looked at it and of course didn't see anything wrong, so looked at me puzzled. I looked at her and said, "you'd better call a vet, this cow's lookin' a bit peaked.' She just looked disgusted with me and walked away. Yes, the sense of humour can 'turn' too in those places. :D
My first job as a full time IT person was as a network analyst at a meat plant that killed 3500 head of cattle a day. I took it because I was broke and needed the money right after school. The facility I worked at was their only Canadian operation and given the size, it required a Canadian office of around 200 people (accounting, procurement, sales, shipping, etc.). So they had to have a network admin on site. That would be me for the time I was there.
The "interesting" part of the job was the part when they told me that at other facilities that didn't have offices in them, they were administered remotely, but since I was there, I had to take care of the computers in the plant as well as the office. Nothing says "IT" like walking through blood as you pass the giant skinning machines that tear the whole hide from the cow in one shot. Or watching them trim the hooves off... about a foot (pun intended) up the leg on your way to the terminal in the blood room (it was literally called the blood room... every part is used). The worst part is the smell in the skinning a hide rooms. The sight of the skinned animals is nothing after a while. The smell in those rooms, that's another thing. Took me 20 or 30 minutes to get through the door the first time I had to go. I went for a salami sub right after... get back on the horse an all that or become vegan. I still eat meat. All that, and just make sure you wash your boots off before going back into the office. The "knocking station" where they "knocked" (killed the animals was for me a sad place. It was done quickly and humanely, but it did make me feel sad. You can literally see the 'light' going off in their eyes. Like I said, I still eat meat, and enjoy it. But I think everyone that eats meat should have to go through one of these plants to remind you where your hamburger really comes from. It isn't just a package in the supermarket. But that's just me.
I did that for seven months before getting into a programming shop. Thank God.
FWIW, the company had something like a dozen processing facilities and most of their IT work (new users, backups, etc) was done remotely by network admins in Wichita with help from techs on site who normally worked on industrial automation. They had a surprising number of systems that were required to run the plant, including Oracle databases, mail servers, network servers, VAX, AS/400, satellite uplink and downlink to futures markets, etc. Had to administer many of them, and backup all. Some were administered remotely (e.g. AS/400).
Sounds like he already 'sacked' himself. Repeatedly.
Gore worked on the bills that allowed the commercialization of the internet. So he was partially responsible for the 'net as we know it now. He never said he invented the internet. When will that myth end?
Don't yuo hate when poeple invert thier diphthongs?
Is that 'code'?
FTFY: A technology somewhat like this was envisioned/portrayed in Caprica.
The fiction part of science fiction is... fiction. Keep talking like it is real all the time and you'll never make it out of your parent's basement.
No keeping us sitting on the launch pad for five hours for no good reason. Take off or let us off till you're ready. Of course they can't even manage that now with planes.
Here is a theory: Economic times get tough. The best and most experienced (longest time in) IT people you have are paid the most. The suits decide that they need to trim the bottom line since business is down. They get rid of all those high priced IT guys and keep the low priced guys. Surprise IT is more complicated than the suits think and even though they are bright and well intentioned, the less experienced guys end up having to reinvent the wheel all the time since the bosses got rid of the wheel makers. Things ain't what they used to be...
I didn't say it wasn't civilized. Napoleon wanted a person to be charged only if the state had a really good case to prevent people from being thrown in jail indefinitely. The state is supposed to be able to go to trial quickly so they can't say they are keeping people while they are investigating. Common law evolved with rules to accomplish the same thing, but the idea of innocent until proven guilty doesn't in itself prevent it. A long time ago the state could come and throw you in jail while it did its investigations, even if that took a long time. That is why laws were developed so that the state generally can't hold you more than a set period of time (24, 58, 72 hours or whatever, depending on the state) before having to release you or are charged and started through the court system (which I think ends up being similar to Napoleonic law, n'est-ce pas? :).
Maybe some of the laws in Quebec are Napoleonic. But most are the same as the rest of Canada. We have one set of federal laws that extend to Quebec as well. And federal laws in Canada generally trump provincial laws. We don't have 'states rights'.
All it took was Airbus being charged by France with manslaughter over the crash. They spent the money to make a real effort to find the wreckage and black boxes this time; in an effort to get out of the charges.
For those who don't know, France follows Napoleonic Law, not Common Law like in Britain, Canada (and most other commonwealth countries), and of course, America. In common law you are innocent until proven guilty. In Napoleonic law, they don't file charges or (generally) put you in jail until investigation convinces authorities that you are guilty (as I understand it, if murder etc. is involved, they might put you in jail while they investigate, but you won't be charged until they are convinced you are guilty). You have to prove your innocence. So basically, the government is pretty certain they will be able to convict Airbus on the manslaughter charges if they actually charged them. And thus, the search is likely in the effort to prove their innocence, not in the effort of finding the truth to ensure this type of crash doesn't happen again.
I'm not sure if executives of a company can be put in prison for manslaughter if their company is convicted of it. Or of any other crime for that matter. If anyone knows that would be interesting to hear.