>> Your fanaticism is showing. putty is open source, cross platform, and damn good. If you're going to claim that it's "half crippled" then you'd best back that up with actual facts rather than just looking like a knee jerk anti-Windows fanboy. I don't suggest that you use putty for all tasks, but it's certainly a good alternative for many of them. Right tool, right job.
Sure,
The colours are broken, often vim syntax highlighting is unreadable and many irssi themes show text in black on black when that doesnt happen with ssh under any terminal emulator I tried.
Refreshing after resize is unreliable and sometimes makes the application permanently unviewable.
Line crop often breaks and line does a \r instead of a \n\r so you end up typing over what you just typed.
Connection drops from time to time, seems not as reliable but may be due to Windows' limited network capabilities (*shiver*tcpstack errors*shiver*)
Plink the command line clients managed to somehow crash some Windows machines I tried it on, never found out why.
Cant do X forwarding or many other nifty things
I think I even saw putty plain not run certain terminal applications. Its not bad considering its emulation, but about as good as wine emulates windows software:)
Port forwarding? ssh -L 666:127.0.0.1:666 host will forward 666 from remote to localhost ssh -R 666:127.0.0.1:666 host will forward 666 from localhost to remote
putty is a half crippled ssh-client clone for windows.
Its easy to win, not easy to "make it" so to speak. Its like singing - Britney Spears can sing... bearly - I heard people singing on the bus better than her, just like I've seen really good players out there.
All I can say is great on him and congrats for living the dream, but thats beside the point. Why I dont persue the "dream" is mostly because I dont want the popularity, I'm a bit anti social, but you can tell;)
"Engineers can defuse mines." You camp on the bridge above naturally and kill the engineers while they are defusing.
"Either turn around quickly and frag him first or shoot at the ground near the enemy with a splash-damage weapon." There are plenty of places where you can be quite far away from being damageable until being seen.
"Being spawnkilled is not a skill, but spawnkilling can be, in 1on1 games in Quake or Unreal Tournament. It requires knowledge of spawn areas and fast movement and reflexes to cover as many possible spawnplaces as possible." Any noob knows where the spawn is after 5 minutes of playing - just crouch and hold the fire on the spawn -- all you need is to remember enemy spawns at 10 and 30 seconds past each minute, no biggie.
"If you are being fragged from the same location over and over again, you are doing something really wrong. Just try to approach the enemy form another angle." There are always convenient locations that give you a major advantage - and you can always hear if person tries to approach from a different angle, and move accordingly.
"You cannot do both at the same time. You have to stop at a certain point, skilled players will wait for that and frag you. That, or the attackee will just take another route." Actually, its not so hard, you can get a granade to explode every second or so, maybe its not fatal for a skillful player but very damaging, then you just need a couple of non accurate shots to kill - you can also get a buddy to resupply you and there is no other angle when done on both spawn locations which is common.
"What is wrong with that?" Nothing, but it requires 0 skill, just alternate between several crates and blow up the engineer the second he pops into view. I shown players you never played 3d shooters in their life how to get most kills in the game this way.
"Superweapons are often disabled, and in good maps (maps suitable for competitive play), are situated in risky locations. That way, people have fair chances against superweapons. And suicides are (almost?) always punished in game scoring systems." Almost never actually. If you blow yourself up, sure, if you shoot the ground right next to you and run/kill as a binded key, you dont lose a point - risky location or not:)
"Same as "superweapons": often disabled, and in good maps (maps suitable for competitive play), are situated in risky locations. Further more; good players will run around maps picking up these special items as soon as they spawn, which requires timing and great skill, especially when your opponent tries to do the same. And of course one can defend himself from players with invincibility by running away." As long as you get the first kill, which is in many cases luck, you're set with a major disadvantage for the rest of the match.
"Further more, you seem only to have based your opinions around Tribes and Enemy Territory, games which are played as mayor competitive games for a reason. Take a look at some skilled 1on1 matches of Painkiller, Quake 3 or Unreal Tournament 2004, and you will come to different conclusions." I like Tribes and Enemy Territory because they require some skill and tactic and there are many servers that have really skillful players that arent lame with panzers disables and lives limited. Then say you have 5 lives for 30 minutes of gameplay - try getting 120 frags then!:) - With 5 lives no one runs out and expects to win skillfuly as you'll be met by fire from 4 directions of frightened people advancing slowly together to increase their chances - no way in hell are you going to win.
I found unreal and quake3 just non stop jumping sounds (god how annoying) and very fast paced, non stop action where even the greatest players get killed often, just not as often as other players. In enemy territory I can play a 30 minute game and have a 20 kill spree without getting killed a single time - All I'm saying is there are always various unavoidable tricks how you can get a high frag rate without any skill.
I dont think you know what you're talking about. There are plenty of ways to get frags by exploiting game bugs instead of being skillful. -- I can get man of the match in many games by just being lame, but thats boring.
* lining the exits of the spawn with mines in enemy territory - no way around that but wait for a team player to step on them and get killed.
* Hiding in places where the player has to walk past but turn around to see you with a rocket launcher
* Being shot with the missile launcher as you spawn in doom3 (no delay before you can be damaged)
* Camping in a single convenient location to frag
* Throwing non stop granades while re-supplying yourself with more (being a field ops)
* Using anti tank weapons while hiding in a different place each time to blow up an enemy engineer from the back
if only the re-installation process wasnt so routine that there are hundreds of sites devoted to the subject. Hell, the virus dejour, the 25% of dell phone calls being spam related, the constant reports of an installation just dieing, its no surprise that the installation process is considered important on both platforms only on Mandrake, you only have to do it once.
1) ~$100 - nforce4 motherboard with 8 onboard stata, 2) ~$40 - an additional PCI sata controller with 4 ports, 3) ~$100 - the cheapest AMD64 CPU you can buy, 12 400GB drives, 4) ~$150 - coolermaster stacker case 5) ~$1020 - 12 WD 400Gb drives 5) $0 - your favorite Linux distribution.
TOTAL: $1410
Each drive eats about 15W meaning around 180W with an additional 60W for motherboard/cpu consumption which makes it a comparable solution to an efficient scsi solution in terms of power consumption at a small fraction of the cost.
Personally, I created a raid1 array of 2 37GB 10krpm raptor drives for critical stuff and OS, and 2 raid5 arrays of 5 300GB drives for even superior cost per GB while increasing redundancy by a factor of 2. But that only gives you 2.4TB per mode in that case.
The configuration can be done with evms or lvm2, rebuilding on the fly and replacing drives on the fly should work just fine in theory (never tried on the fly), but if not, a scheduled 5 minute downtime is just fine also. My previous 0.5TB raid5 is up >3 years so far and a hard drive failure just required to mdadm md0 --add/dev/sda5 to rebuild the array after a drive failure.
Increasing the array size becomes tricky (although an available option) and fiddling with various distributed network filesystems doesnt really seems worth it for me personally, but openmosix and other clustering solutions offer distributed filesystems.
Just remember, the SATA architecture is nice, SCSI isnt really a requirement for this kind of solution.
stored procedures and triggers *are* code - its a hack to follow the "do it all in the database" mentality.
Its pretty nice when you have different interfaces accessing the same database with a history trigger for instance that stores every change on modify or create (not possible with delete though), but personally, I dont want anything that alters my database to be the database itself.
Call me old fashioned, but I use databases to store information in, not to program in.
But seriously, I had mine for about 6 months now and I have to say the isolation is incredible. Baby screaming at the DVLA? no problem. Construction and train noises are also easily blocked out. The London Underground is a good test because its *very* loud - you cant hold a conversation screaming at the top of your lungs there. Here the isolation isnt enough, but all you hear is a faint windy sort of noise, which is fine.
if you're referring to http://oprofile.sourceforge.net/news/, you're sadly mistaken. Realtime system profiling is very far behind on Linux compared to Solaris.
Can you monitor how much network bandwidth each process uses? -- Sure you can see listening ports and IP traffic, and ntop is fantastic at showing what network bandwidth is used for (i.e. spotting p2p and IM traffic, eg). However if you have a trojen and you see suspecious network activity, there is a certain amount of guess work to try to find the process. Solaris will show exactly what process is making what connection where and the bandwidth it is using.
Can you monitor how much IO utilization each process has? -- No, only IO wait and CPU consumption which is normally enough, but say you have a script thats just reading all content on the disk and redirects it to/dev/null - Sure you'll see abount 1% cpu utilization, but again, guess work at whats actually using IO.
Sure you're usually right making an educated guess but system profiling is far ahead on Solaris.
Its *not* the browser, its the OS:
Some reasons why Linux will never me the malware target windows is:
Permissions -- If you download an executable file from the Internet, you must manually specify it is an executable before you can run it. The "click on attachment" or on the file downloaded from MSN scenario is prevented.
Mimetypes -- Extensions are used as guidelines, but the content of the file is scanned to ensure the right program opens it. If a file is unrecognised or script, it will prompt to open in a text viewer. You can also feel free to remove the extension off all your files and they will open up in the right programs regardless. Faking extensions doesnt work.
Less Automation -- For example Office files have various code and macros that can run on start that were exploitable numerous times.
No user interraction automation -- There is typically no code in filetypes to automate user interraction. Sure there it is optional support for it in expert tools like vim (i.e. code in file header to fetch/format data), but it is disabled by default.
No Registry -- Files are looked for in path, so exploits like changing path in registry are impossible. System clutter is also avoided by using configuration files that are only scanned by the software that needs them, not whenever a variable is required.
Dynamic Library System -- Easy library updates without causing serious side effects or forcing software vendor to provide their own version of the same library (sometimes overwriting system's version!)
Multiuser -- Multiuser support was forced into Windows with limited testing. It was part of the original design for *NIX.
Superuser -- On GNU/Linux, programs get installed by the superuser or get installed to the home directory. Since the concept of an actual superuser is invalid on single user designs, many applications on Windows still assume write access to program-files and are given it. The day to day user is also the superuser on XP Pro and XP Home systems unless part of a network.
Mature Networking (TCP/IP) -- Added to *NIX over a decade before making its way to Windows, so far more mature and tested.
Only when Windows get their shit together with the above, then I'll consider trying it in vmware again;)
People use "old" WMs (that just happen to be more "new" than GNOME and KDE) because they offer superior window management and space efficiency. Look at my sig for an example.
I find GNOME horribly wasteful of screen real estate, KDE much less so, but almost as bad as Windows, thats why I use ION3.
ftp://81.86.159.146/text/ubuntu-criticism - many comments there apply to gnome. I really, really cant stand gnome, it feels like an early broken pre-alpha release of KDE 2.1.
Mandrake with 0% of the 123 advisories still open (and thats for their entire software collection people). They've really improved, nice to see them number 1.
And interesting to see gentoo beat every distribution in 2003 before the ricer campaign;)
But why no Crux or Arch? -- I love those distributions.
26% of the 66 Windows XP Home exploits are still unpatched, many of which are highly critical. Every single windows XP user can be easily hacked even if they go to windowsupdate.com every 5 minutes.
Good think the permission system on GNU/Linux wont allow executables to execute without setting them executable manually. Its not the first time firefox exploits are reported where only Windows is vulnerable.
>> It certainly doesn't protect your anonymity. Nor does a de-centralised bittorrent
>> The eMule server acts in much the same role as the BT server If you decentralise it, it sure does, that was the point of the parent.
>> Except the speeds are better on BT Only on the centralised server, quote from parent: "Before you say 'wah wah bit torrent is faster', etc, it is only like that because it is centralised and so a tracker can make sure everyone is seeding"
>> BT has always been about security in numbers, except the users have been many and the sites many, but the tracker only one Thats meaningless except for if you de-centralise the tracker, you get an inefficient version of the edonkey or kademlia networks. And it doesnt matter how many sites give the links, they will all be closed, sharereactor, shareconnector and other edonkey sites never ran a server or tracker or whatever you think they ran.
Slashdot Mirror
>> Your fanaticism is showing. putty is open source, cross platform, and damn good. If you're going to claim that it's "half crippled" then you'd best back that up with actual facts rather than just looking like a knee jerk anti-Windows fanboy. I don't suggest that you use putty for all tasks, but it's certainly a good alternative for many of them. Right tool, right job.
:)
u x_or_Windows_-_A_Practical_Comparison
Sure,
The colours are broken, often vim syntax highlighting is unreadable and many irssi themes show text in black on black when that doesnt happen with ssh under any terminal emulator I tried.
Refreshing after resize is unreliable and sometimes makes the application permanently unviewable.
Line crop often breaks and line does a \r instead of a \n\r so you end up typing over what you just typed.
Connection drops from time to time, seems not as reliable but may be due to Windows' limited network capabilities (*shiver*tcpstack errors*shiver*)
Plink the command line clients managed to somehow crash some Windows machines I tried it on, never found out why.
Cant do X forwarding or many other nifty things
I think I even saw putty plain not run certain terminal applications. Its not bad considering its emulation, but about as good as wine emulates windows software
For the record, I do hate windows, but mostly for technical reasons: http://hackeron.dyndns.org/hackeron/index.php/Lin
Port forwarding?
ssh -L 666:127.0.0.1:666 host will forward 666 from remote to localhost
ssh -R 666:127.0.0.1:666 host will forward 666 from localhost to remote
putty is a half crippled ssh-client clone for windows.
http://ask.slashdot.org/~Hackeron/journal/101301
Its easy to win, not easy to "make it" so to speak. Its like singing - Britney Spears can sing... bearly - I heard people singing on the bus better than her, just like I've seen really good players out there.
;)
All I can say is great on him and congrats for living the dream, but thats beside the point. Why I dont persue the "dream" is mostly because I dont want the popularity, I'm a bit anti social, but you can tell
"Engineers can defuse mines."
/kill as a binded key, you dont lose a point - risky location or not :)
:) - With 5 lives no one runs out and expects to win skillfuly as you'll be met by fire from 4 directions of frightened people advancing slowly together to increase their chances - no way in hell are you going to win.
You camp on the bridge above naturally and kill the engineers while they are defusing.
"Either turn around quickly and frag him first or shoot at the ground near the enemy with a splash-damage weapon."
There are plenty of places where you can be quite far away from being damageable until being seen.
"Being spawnkilled is not a skill, but spawnkilling can be, in 1on1 games in Quake or Unreal Tournament. It requires knowledge of spawn areas and fast movement and reflexes to cover as many possible spawnplaces as possible."
Any noob knows where the spawn is after 5 minutes of playing - just crouch and hold the fire on the spawn -- all you need is to remember enemy spawns at 10 and 30 seconds past each minute, no biggie.
"If you are being fragged from the same location over and over again, you are doing something really wrong. Just try to approach the enemy form another angle."
There are always convenient locations that give you a major advantage - and you can always hear if person tries to approach from a different angle, and move accordingly.
"You cannot do both at the same time. You have to stop at a certain point, skilled players will wait for that and frag you. That, or the attackee will just take another route."
Actually, its not so hard, you can get a granade to explode every second or so, maybe its not fatal for a skillful player but very damaging, then you just need a couple of non accurate shots to kill - you can also get a buddy to resupply you and there is no other angle when done on both spawn locations which is common.
"What is wrong with that?"
Nothing, but it requires 0 skill, just alternate between several crates and blow up the engineer the second he pops into view. I shown players you never played 3d shooters in their life how to get most kills in the game this way.
"Superweapons are often disabled, and in good maps (maps suitable for competitive play), are situated in risky locations. That way, people have fair chances against superweapons.
And suicides are (almost?) always punished in game scoring systems."
Almost never actually. If you blow yourself up, sure, if you shoot the ground right next to you and run
"Same as "superweapons": often disabled, and in good maps (maps suitable for competitive play), are situated in risky locations.
Further more; good players will run around maps picking up these special items as soon as they spawn, which requires timing and great skill, especially when your opponent tries to do the same.
And of course one can defend himself from players with invincibility by running away."
As long as you get the first kill, which is in many cases luck, you're set with a major disadvantage for the rest of the match.
"Further more, you seem only to have based your opinions around Tribes and Enemy Territory, games which are played as mayor competitive games for a reason. Take a look at some skilled 1on1 matches of Painkiller, Quake 3 or Unreal Tournament 2004, and you will come to different conclusions."
I like Tribes and Enemy Territory because they require some skill and tactic and there are many servers that have really skillful players that arent lame with panzers disables and lives limited. Then say you have 5 lives for 30 minutes of gameplay - try getting 120 frags then!
I found unreal and quake3 just non stop jumping sounds (god how annoying) and very fast paced, non stop action where even the greatest players get killed often, just not as often as other players. In enemy territory I can play a 30 minute game and have a 20 kill spree without getting killed a single time - All I'm saying is there are always various unavoidable tricks how you can get a high frag rate without any skill.
oh and during temporary invincibility and super damage like the berserk mode, etc.. There are so many!
haha, and lets not forget superweapons and suicides.
I dont think you know what you're talking about. There are plenty of ways to get frags by exploiting game bugs instead of being skillful. -- I can get man of the match in many games by just being lame, but thats boring.
* lining the exits of the spawn with mines in enemy territory - no way around that but wait for a team player to step on them and get killed.
* Hiding in places where the player has to walk past but turn around to see you with a rocket launcher
* Being shot with the missile launcher as you spawn in doom3 (no delay before you can be damaged)
* Camping in a single convenient location to frag
* Throwing non stop granades while re-supplying yourself with more (being a field ops)
* Using anti tank weapons while hiding in a different place each time to blow up an enemy engineer from the back
Also read this: http://dansdata.com/t2bastard.htm
Bottomline is there are thousands of ways you can get a shitload of frags by just being lame, not skillful.
if only the re-installation process wasnt so routine that there are hundreds of sites devoted to the subject. Hell, the virus dejour, the 25% of dell phone calls being spam related, the constant reports of an installation just dieing, its no surprise that the installation process is considered important on both platforms only on Mandrake, you only have to do it once.
>> I personally don't like OSX, but LOVE the Apple hardware. I would be interested in purchasing a Titanium (x86) and putting Windows and Linux on it.
Go ahead! -- Beginner friendly Linux for Mac
1) ~$100 - nforce4 motherboard with 8 onboard stata,
/dev/sda5 to rebuild the array after a drive failure.
2) ~$40 - an additional PCI sata controller with 4 ports,
3) ~$100 - the cheapest AMD64 CPU you can buy, 12 400GB drives,
4) ~$150 - coolermaster stacker case
5) ~$1020 - 12 WD 400Gb drives
5) $0 - your favorite Linux distribution.
TOTAL: $1410
Each drive eats about 15W meaning around 180W with an additional 60W for motherboard/cpu consumption which makes it a comparable solution to an efficient scsi solution in terms of power consumption at a small fraction of the cost.
Personally, I created a raid1 array of 2 37GB 10krpm raptor drives for critical stuff and OS, and 2 raid5 arrays of 5 300GB drives for even superior cost per GB while increasing redundancy by a factor of 2. But that only gives you 2.4TB per mode in that case.
The configuration can be done with evms or lvm2, rebuilding on the fly and replacing drives on the fly should work just fine in theory (never tried on the fly), but if not, a scheduled 5 minute downtime is just fine also. My previous 0.5TB raid5 is up >3 years so far and a hard drive failure just required to mdadm md0 --add
Increasing the array size becomes tricky (although an available option) and fiddling with various distributed network filesystems doesnt really seems worth it for me personally, but openmosix and other clustering solutions offer distributed filesystems.
Just remember, the SATA architecture is nice, SCSI isnt really a requirement for this kind of solution.
stored procedures and triggers *are* code - its a hack to follow the "do it all in the database" mentality.
Its pretty nice when you have different interfaces accessing the same database with a history trigger for instance that stores every change on modify or create (not possible with delete though), but personally, I dont want anything that alters my database to be the database itself.
Call me old fashioned, but I use databases to store information in, not to program in.
As opposed to python!
http://www.shurestore.com/earphones/eseries_e5c.ht ml - Its all in the name of good health, right?
But seriously, I had mine for about 6 months now and I have to say the isolation is incredible. Baby screaming at the DVLA? no problem. Construction and train noises are also easily blocked out. The London Underground is a good test because its *very* loud - you cant hold a conversation screaming at the top of your lungs there. Here the isolation isnt enough, but all you hear is a faint windy sort of noise, which is fine.
if you're referring to http://oprofile.sourceforge.net/news/, you're sadly mistaken. Realtime system profiling is very far behind on Linux compared to Solaris.
/dev/null - Sure you'll see abount 1% cpu utilization, but again, guess work at whats actually using IO.
Can you monitor how much network bandwidth each process uses? -- Sure you can see listening ports and IP traffic, and ntop is fantastic at showing what network bandwidth is used for (i.e. spotting p2p and IM traffic, eg). However if you have a trojen and you see suspecious network activity, there is a certain amount of guess work to try to find the process. Solaris will show exactly what process is making what connection where and the bandwidth it is using.
Can you monitor how much IO utilization each process has? -- No, only IO wait and CPU consumption which is normally enough, but say you have a script thats just reading all content on the disk and redirects it to
Sure you're usually right making an educated guess but system profiling is far ahead on Solaris.
http://hackeron.dyndns.org/hackeron/index.php/Linu x_or_Windows_-_A_Practical_Comparison
Any criticism will be highly appreciated.
Why rdist? -- Looking at the features, rsync can fully replace rdist with the added benefit of supporting partial file transfers.
How true :) -- if only I had mod points :(
- Permissions -- If you download an executable file from the Internet, you must manually specify it is an executable before you can run it. The "click on attachment" or on the file downloaded from MSN scenario is prevented.
- Mimetypes -- Extensions are used as guidelines, but the content of the file is scanned to ensure the right program opens it. If a file is unrecognised or script, it will prompt to open in a text viewer. You can also feel free to remove the extension off all your files and they will open up in the right programs regardless. Faking extensions doesnt work.
- Less Automation -- For example Office files have various code and macros that can run on start that were exploitable numerous times.
- No user interraction automation -- There is typically no code in filetypes to automate user interraction. Sure there it is optional support for it in expert tools like vim (i.e. code in file header to fetch/format data), but it is disabled by default.
- No Registry -- Files are looked for in path, so exploits like changing path in registry are impossible. System clutter is also avoided by using configuration files that are only scanned by the software that needs them, not whenever a variable is required.
- Dynamic Library System -- Easy library updates without causing serious side effects or forcing software vendor to provide their own version of the same library (sometimes overwriting system's version!)
- Multiuser -- Multiuser support was forced into Windows with limited testing. It was part of the original design for *NIX.
- Superuser -- On GNU/Linux, programs get installed by the superuser or get installed to the home directory. Since the concept of an actual superuser is invalid on single user designs, many applications on Windows still assume write access to program-files and are given it. The day to day user is also the superuser on XP Pro and XP Home systems unless part of a network.
- Mature Networking (TCP/IP) -- Added to *NIX over a decade before making its way to Windows, so far more mature and tested.
Only when Windows get their shit together with the above, then I'll consider trying it in vmware againPeople use "old" WMs (that just happen to be more "new" than GNOME and KDE) because they offer superior window management and space efficiency. Look at my sig for an example.
I find GNOME horribly wasteful of screen real estate, KDE much less so, but almost as bad as Windows, thats why I use ION3.
ftp://81.86.159.146/text/ubuntu-criticism - many comments there apply to gnome. I really, really cant stand gnome, it feels like an early broken pre-alpha release of KDE 2.1.
Mandrake with 0% of the 123 advisories still open (and thats for their entire software collection people). They've really improved, nice to see them number 1.
;)
And interesting to see gentoo beat every distribution in 2003 before the ricer campaign
But why no Crux or Arch? -- I love those distributions.
26% of the 66 Windows XP Home exploits are still unpatched, many of which are highly critical. Every single windows XP user can be easily hacked even if they go to windowsupdate.com every 5 minutes.
Good think the permission system on GNU/Linux wont allow executables to execute without setting them executable manually. Its not the first time firefox exploits are reported where only Windows is vulnerable.
:)
Its not the browser, its the OS stupid
>> How is eMule any better?
Read parent
>> It certainly doesn't protect your anonymity.
Nor does a de-centralised bittorrent
>> The eMule server acts in much the same role as the BT server
If you decentralise it, it sure does, that was the point of the parent.
>> Except the speeds are better on BT
Only on the centralised server, quote from parent: "Before you say 'wah wah bit torrent is faster', etc, it is only like that because it is centralised and so a tracker can make sure everyone is seeding"
>> BT has always been about security in numbers, except the users have been many and the sites many, but the tracker only one
Thats meaningless except for if you de-centralise the tracker, you get an inefficient version of the edonkey or kademlia networks. And it doesnt matter how many sites give the links, they will all be closed, sharereactor, shareconnector and other edonkey sites never ran a server or tracker or whatever you think they ran.