That, or the seperation of wealth will continue to increase, throwing us back into the trap that brought us here in the first place. It's the one constant cliche in history.
The USA is still young(infant young) . The world economy is still new(screaming infant young). The reality is that all this talk of whats best is speculation. We do know its not going to change overnight, for better or worse. But why not follow the course that are economy has decided to take?
Outsourcing isn't normaly that bad of a thing. Infact, i'm all for getting rid of hard labor jobs and using technology to give us a better society. Our move from a manufacturing to a service economy is a bit bumpy, but its for the best.
Here's a problem though. We ARE a service economy. We, in IT, are service based. While sending manufacuring jobs make sense, sending IT jobs just screams "whoring". Average CEO pay in 2003 is 301 times that of average worker pay (faireconomy.org). What's best for business will eventually hit a brick wall and no longer be whats best for society.
Technology level + education = good society. So why are we getting rid of highly educated high technogoly workers?
Answer: It's profitable. But at what point does the profit gained outweight the loss to the American society as a whole? It sounds sappy and self-indulgent, but we are the freakin shinning beacon of hope for a better tommorow. Technology is what made every single aspect of our lives better. And these people are at the head of it.
We may not be pretty, but please, don't throw us out.
I'm all about 3rd party candidates and the like, as all views should have a voice. Though after reading a good portion of these posts, I think some people need a bit more back ground into libertarian ideology and the internal strife contained in this small upstart party (and I love upstarts:P ).
One thing people need to realize is that while many of the libertarian view points are very much inline with the majority of geeks (ala true anarachisism(not media sensationalist definition( free flow of information))), the libertarians as a party have been not only rather ineffective. The trapa they fall into is often basing views not on fact, but on ideological theory. This isn't to bash the party, but the reality is that there isn't one city, state, or nation on the planet that's run through a true libertarian system.
Many integrate these ideas to varying degrees of success, but still none have embraced the dogmatic outline.
Many libs will point to New Zealand as an example, and while the growth their nation is nothing to scoff at, I recommend reading Noam Chomsky's critque : http://www.mngt.waikato.ac.nz/depts/sml/journal/in dexv11/Chomsky.htm for a bit more in-depth look at the dynamics of that particular example (and also an enlighting view of the disparity caused by a true free market system).
Other great articles that present a myriad of views of left/right (though admititly through leffty eyes) libs are available here : http://world.std.com/~mhuben/leftlib.html
Some good reads by some very intelligent people. And while I realy don't mean to sound bashing in any way, I do think the libs should focus MUCH more on grassroots effots, as less on the unattainable. For now.
If you honestly think vietnam has no relavance in today's debate, you really do need to revisit your history. This book, published in 1970, paints the very picture of the current state of affairs as related to the policies enacted during the vietnam war. I find it chilling in its accuracy of predicting how many of the bad policies that brought us into vietnam are sadly being repeated today.
It's not a hard book to find, and should be avaible in your local library. It's hardly a biased political rant, but a oft times freighting bi-partisan fact sheet of the Congressional Conference on War and National Responsibility of 1970.
We are not in new territory, it just has a different name, a different face, but same broken policies and ideologies.
I would argue that hand writing is the obsolete skill. Being a college senior, the only time I even make use of hand writing is during tests. And even then, the only time hand writing comes into the picture is during essay type exams.
The last thing a upper level prof. ever plans on grading is a hand written paper (and heaven help the poor sod that turned it in). If anything, just shift the focus from "typing class" to word processing class. Teach the tools, and through use the typing ability will follow.
Sweet. I didn't know you could use my computers muffed up clock to make chips. Rock on. Now if I can just figure out how to use the BIOS to make some dip, I'll be in freakin heaven.
For 3d modeling (not animating mind you), might i recommend http://www.wings3d.com/. Wings 3d has pretty much the best GUI i've ever had the pleasure of using. It's learning curve is really only about a half hour, and you can do some amazing modeling with it. Also open source.
Dumbass Politican 1 : "Okay, heres the plan. Lets fist make it so we only got like 3 media companys."
Dumbass Politican 2 : "Yea, I'm feeling ya."
D.P. 1 : "Then, we can enact these here laws that allow us squash any kind of creative thought!"
D.P. 2 : "Hell yea, but why do we need that consolidation again?"
D.P. 1 : "Cause numbnuts, the networks said that they're sick of having to compete for viewers. And if theres only two or three companys, and nobody can serve anything but vanilla, THEN they no longer have to worry about dealing anybody that can muff with their hold on the public. No dissent, no new ideas, no thinking. We win all around! Duh."
I agree with this to a point. Death is an over used cliche in the videogame world. I recently realized this reacurring theme while playing some games with my 4 and 6 year old cousins. Anytime someone lost a game "they died", and no, I wasnt playing GTA with em:P. We're talking Mario Kart here. The death thing, for kids that young to be relating to games, is just kinda weird to actually watch.
Point being anyhow, death, like any facet of gaming does have its place, just not everywhere. I submit, for the devils advocate, 2002's $20 gem, Serious Sam : The Second Encounter. That game alone brought me back to the FPS genre with its heart attack inducing, horde of monster slaughering, huge ass demon poping out of nowhere and kicking my ass forcing me to f9 inspired deaths. Now those, those are deaths to write home about.
Amazing that. Guess all those hemp smoking hippies migrated to the conservative base.
Because, as we all know, people like Ashcroft spend YOUR tax dollars to hunt bongs because that will end the drug war.
Oh yea, and that Nelson Rockefeller, he was liberal democrat.
Who else, Nixon? Theres a liberal democrat. He FREAKIN DECLARED THE WAR ON DRUGS.
How bout good old Nancy Reagen, with the "just say no" and the crack house laws that followed? Theres a liberal democrat.
William Bennett? Stop me anytime.
Asa Hutchinson? Can't have a list of liberal dems without him, now can we?
The only real dem of note that pushed the drug laws was Johnson, and he was hardly "liberal".
The list goes on and on.
Chirst people, use some facts with those mod points.
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I'd vote Libertarian, but I think Noam Chomsky's pointed out the incompentency of the party to such a degree, that my added stupidity would only be more of the old "kicking the dead cat". Preverbaly, of course.
Nepotism. Nepotism. Nepotism. Nepotism. Nepotism.
N e p o t i s m.
nepotism : Favoritism shown or patronage granted to relatives, as in business.
It it wasn't for family and/or friends, I wouldn't have this keen room in my parents basement and this great job of taking care of the retarded with behavioral disorders (as opposed to using the degree in CIS thats taken me 6 years...)
Did I mention nepotism?
While you may avoid ammo explosions, you need to watch out for the hits on the Gauss Rifle itself. That's a goddamn 30-point explosion on a critical hit! Blows the entire left torso off my Enforcer, and with the inflation of the C-bill, that's a real bite in any Merc's ass.
The real problem (as I see it) isnt the pro-gun vs anti-gun, its the average American view of what guns are. To get it out of the way, I'm "pro-gun", but anti-pro-gun people.
Here's my circular train of logic.
We look at guns wrong. We, as a people have a grand general misconception of what guns are. They are, in a matter of fact, an instrument of death. What I point my gun at, I intended to kill, to end the life of, to wipe out of exisistence FOREVER. Guns should be looked at for exactly what they are. The idea that you have guns for entertainment or protection is asine. I reiterate, you have guns to END LIFE. It is a purely offense weapon. Not fun, not play (well, I do hunt, but I do so to end the life of what I'm hunting, not play with the damn thing, and I do enjoy it, but the perception is the point here:P), not childerns toys. I know this sounds uniformly boring, but this glorification of guns and the people that glorify them (Heston is an unsenstive prick) need a serious reality check. This idea of giving kids toy guns and embraceing the idea that a loaded handgun in the dresser somehow makes us safer needs to end.
So by now I bet you think I was lying about the pro-gun stance. I wasn't. What people who often cry afoul of guns miss out on the big picture.
What was it like before guns? Swords? Before that? Clubs? I mean, come on. Would you really have a society where the strong literaly rule over the weak (again)? Guns put everyone, even a 8 year old boy, on a level playing feild for ending life. It takes the ability to bring death out of the hands of the strong and into the hands of everyone. Morbid? A bit, but morbidly realistic none the less. And more then that, fair.
So theres my stance on guns, but not neccesarly automatic weapons. Those i dont understand why anyone would support. The ability to end the life of multiple individuals in an extremely short amount of time is something I can't bring myself to agree with. It tips the playing field if you will.
Ya ever read "One flew over the cuckoo's"? The correlation between the Bush administrations "insinuation's" and that of Big Nurse's are mind boggling. It's the same kind of control, not coming out and just saying it, but pointing people in that direction for the pecking party. -Zong
Why not PDA's? This is what i never understood about Transmeta, if the darn thing is so efficent, why not use it one of the fastest growing markets out there (Scalability seems kinda moot considering what they're cramin in this current gen of pda's)? I would love to gobble up one of those funky named procs and make it into my best new wardriving buddy. And I mention this, because who the heck uses those tablet pc's anyhow?
..all i can really do is echo the standard sentiment. Except the.NET hate. I mean, most of it's prolly justified (Though only heaven knows, it not exactly a software package/framework people cut their teeth on), but i get this feeling, mostly from using it this past couple of months, that it will be here for the duration, for better or worse. The fact that it has so much crap integrated into it, and not to mention (considering its STILL in an extremely immature stage, and its rather broad functionality) its actually one of the MOST (if not the most) stable/functional(if not practial) things ever to come out of M$, it just gives me the feeling that this is were they want to head (again, maybe not the best idea, hell maybe not even in top 100, but i digress). That, and i like my compilers/FW's to be just like me, simple (not right, not always rational, but simple;P).
All i can say is that while their tech support/service (general customer care) is more then lacking, the fact that they lifted the cap of all cable subscribers for a year and half (up here in MI, btw, were getting 2mbit dl's for basic price), and are now taking this stance against totalitarism , has made me a loyal customer for (hopefully) years to come. Keep it up guys!
"And don't think it was any better in 1980's, 1940's, 1920's or in XIX century."
agree with ya uptill slightly past the XIX century mark. Theodore Roosevelt is, without a doubt, the last bad ass man to grace this country as President (since, its really been all career politicans). But then again, it was technically September 14, 1901, so i guess your off the hook:P
Personally, i want to clone em and get the rough riders together whop some GOP butt (cause lets face it, he would be none to happy about his party now days.)
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Any high level language compiler that is still case sensative should have it's collective dev team drag out the street and shot.
Having to hunt down the difference between X and x in 10,000+ lines of badly documented code is getting freakin old.
RAGE!
That, or the seperation of wealth will continue to increase, throwing us back into the trap that brought us here in the first place. It's the one constant cliche in history.
The USA is still young(infant young) . The world economy is still new(screaming infant young). The reality is that all this talk of whats best is speculation. We do know its not going to change overnight, for better or worse. But why not follow the course that are economy has decided to take?
Outsourcing isn't normaly that bad of a thing. Infact, i'm all for getting rid of hard labor jobs and using technology to give us a better society.
Our move from a manufacturing to a service economy is a bit bumpy, but its for the best.
Here's a problem though. We ARE a service economy. We, in IT, are service based. While sending manufacuring jobs make sense, sending IT jobs just screams "whoring". Average CEO pay in 2003 is 301 times that of average worker pay (faireconomy.org). What's best for business will eventually hit a brick wall and no longer be whats best for society.
Technology level + education = good society. So why are we getting rid of highly educated high technogoly workers?
Answer: It's profitable. But at what point does the profit gained outweight the loss to the American society as a whole? It sounds sappy and self-indulgent, but we are the freakin shinning beacon of hope for a better tommorow. Technology is what made every single aspect of our lives better. And these people are at the head of it.
We may not be pretty, but please, don't throw us out.
I'm all about 3rd party candidates and the like, as all views should have a voice. Though after reading a good portion of these posts, I think some people need a bit more back ground into libertarian ideology and the internal strife contained in this small upstart party (and I love upstarts :P ).
n dexv11/Chomsky.htm
One thing people need to realize is that while many of the libertarian view points are very much inline with the majority of geeks (ala true anarachisism(not media sensationalist definition( free flow of information))), the libertarians as a party have been not only rather ineffective. The trapa they fall into is often basing views not on fact, but on ideological theory. This isn't to bash the party, but the reality is that there isn't one city, state, or nation on the planet that's run through a true libertarian system.
Many integrate these ideas to varying degrees of success, but still none have embraced the dogmatic outline.
Many libs will point to New Zealand as an example, and while the growth their nation is nothing to scoff at, I recommend reading Noam Chomsky's critque : http://www.mngt.waikato.ac.nz/depts/sml/journal/i
for a bit more in-depth look at the dynamics of that particular example (and also an enlighting view of the disparity caused by a true free market system).
Other great articles that present a myriad of views of left/right (though admititly through leffty eyes) libs are available here : http://world.std.com/~mhuben/leftlib.html
Some good reads by some very intelligent people. And while I realy don't mean to sound bashing in any way, I do think the libs should focus MUCH more on grassroots effots, as less on the unattainable. For now.
"War Crimes and the American Conscience"
http://vax.vmi.edu/MARION/AAU-8559
If you honestly think vietnam has no relavance in today's debate, you really do need to revisit your history. This book, published in 1970, paints the very picture of the current state of affairs as related to the policies enacted during the vietnam war. I find it chilling in its accuracy of predicting how many of the bad policies that brought us into vietnam are sadly being repeated today.
It's not a hard book to find, and should be avaible in your local library. It's hardly a biased political rant, but a oft times freighting bi-partisan fact sheet of the Congressional Conference on War and National Responsibility of 1970.
We are not in new territory, it just has a different name, a different face, but same broken policies and ideologies.
I would argue that hand writing is the obsolete skill. Being a college senior, the only time I even make use of hand writing is during tests. And even then, the only time hand writing comes into the picture is during essay type exams.
The last thing a upper level prof. ever plans on grading is a hand written paper (and heaven help the poor sod that turned it in). If anything, just shift the focus from "typing class" to word processing class. Teach the tools, and through use the typing ability will follow.
Sweet. I didn't know you could use my computers muffed up clock to make chips. Rock on. Now if I can just figure out how to use the BIOS to make some dip, I'll be in freakin heaven.
For 3d modeling (not animating mind you), might i recommend http://www.wings3d.com/. Wings 3d has pretty much the best GUI i've ever had the pleasure of using. It's learning curve is really only about a half hour, and you can do some amazing modeling with it. Also open source.
Dumbass Politican 1 : "Okay, heres the plan. Lets fist make it so we only got like 3 media companys."
Dumbass Politican 2 : "Yea, I'm feeling ya."
D.P. 1 : "Then, we can enact these here laws that allow us squash any kind of creative thought!"
D.P. 2 : "Hell yea, but why do we need that consolidation again?"
D.P. 1 : "Cause numbnuts, the networks said that they're sick of having to compete for viewers. And if theres only two or three companys, and nobody can serve anything but vanilla, THEN they no longer have to worry about dealing anybody that can muff with their hold on the public. No dissent, no new ideas, no thinking. We win all around! Duh."
D.P. 2 : "And we get fat paid"?
D.P. 1 : "A-fuckin-men".
I agree with this to a point. Death is an over used cliche in the videogame world. I recently realized this reacurring theme while playing some games with my 4 and 6 year old cousins. Anytime someone lost a game "they died", and no, I wasnt playing GTA with em :P. We're talking Mario Kart here. The death thing, for kids that young to be relating to games, is just kinda weird to actually watch.
Point being anyhow, death, like any facet of gaming does have its place, just not everywhere. I submit, for the devils advocate, 2002's $20 gem, Serious Sam : The Second Encounter. That game alone brought me back to the FPS genre with its heart attack inducing, horde of monster slaughering, huge ass demon poping out of nowhere and kicking my ass forcing me to f9 inspired deaths. Now those, those are deaths to write home about.
..theres going to be a Lord of the Rings movie?!?
Amazing that. Guess all those hemp smoking hippies migrated to the conservative base.
Because, as we all know, people like Ashcroft spend YOUR tax dollars to hunt bongs because that will end the drug war.
Oh yea, and that Nelson Rockefeller, he was liberal democrat.
Who else, Nixon? Theres a liberal democrat. He FREAKIN DECLARED THE WAR ON DRUGS.
How bout good old Nancy Reagen, with the "just say no" and the crack house laws that followed? Theres a liberal democrat.
William Bennett? Stop me anytime.
Asa Hutchinson? Can't have a list of liberal dems without him, now can we?
The only real dem of note that pushed the drug laws was Johnson, and he was hardly "liberal".
The list goes on and on.
Chirst people, use some facts with those mod points.
I'd vote Libertarian, but I think Noam Chomsky's pointed out the incompentency of the party to such a degree, that my added stupidity would only be more of the old "kicking the dead cat". Preverbaly, of course.
Nepotism. Nepotism. Nepotism. Nepotism. Nepotism. N e p o t i s m. nepotism : Favoritism shown or patronage granted to relatives, as in business. It it wasn't for family and/or friends, I wouldn't have this keen room in my parents basement and this great job of taking care of the retarded with behavioral disorders (as opposed to using the degree in CIS thats taken me 6 years...) Did I mention nepotism?
Weapon: Gauss Rifle
Crit: 6
Tons: 12
While you may avoid ammo explosions, you need to watch out for the hits on the Gauss Rifle itself. That's a goddamn 30-point explosion on a critical hit! Blows the entire left torso off my Enforcer, and with the inflation of the C-bill, that's a real bite in any Merc's ass.
Not any thing time soon. Do you realize how hard it is for me to read the tv when im baked out of my gord? I want mindless entertainment, damnit.
By the Hoary Hosts of Hogarth, this is good.
The real problem (as I see it) isnt the pro-gun vs anti-gun, its the average American view of what guns are. To get it out of the way, I'm "pro-gun", but anti-pro-gun people. Here's my circular train of logic. We look at guns wrong. We, as a people have a grand general misconception of what guns are. They are, in a matter of fact, an instrument of death. What I point my gun at, I intended to kill, to end the life of, to wipe out of exisistence FOREVER. Guns should be looked at for exactly what they are. The idea that you have guns for entertainment or protection is asine. I reiterate, you have guns to END LIFE. It is a purely offense weapon. Not fun, not play (well, I do hunt, but I do so to end the life of what I'm hunting, not play with the damn thing, and I do enjoy it, but the perception is the point here :P), not childerns toys. I know this sounds uniformly boring, but this glorification of guns and the people that glorify them (Heston is an unsenstive prick) need a serious reality check. This idea of giving kids toy guns and embraceing the idea that a loaded handgun in the dresser somehow makes us safer needs to end.
So by now I bet you think I was lying about the pro-gun stance. I wasn't. What people who often cry afoul of guns miss out on the big picture.
What was it like before guns? Swords? Before that? Clubs? I mean, come on. Would you really have a society where the strong literaly rule over the weak (again)? Guns put everyone, even a 8 year old boy, on a level playing feild for ending life. It takes the ability to bring death out of the hands of the strong and into the hands of everyone. Morbid? A bit, but morbidly realistic none the less. And more then that, fair.
So theres my stance on guns, but not neccesarly automatic weapons. Those i dont understand why anyone would support. The ability to end the life of multiple individuals in an extremely short amount of time is something I can't bring myself to agree with. It tips the playing field if you will.
Ya ever read "One flew over the cuckoo's"? The correlation between the Bush administrations "insinuation's" and that of Big Nurse's are mind boggling. It's the same kind of control, not coming out and just saying it, but pointing people in that direction for the pecking party. -Zong
HA! He's prolly using vb :P
Why not PDA's? This is what i never understood about Transmeta, if the darn thing is so efficent, why not use it one of the fastest growing markets out there (Scalability seems kinda moot considering what they're cramin in this current gen of pda's)? I would love to gobble up one of those funky named procs and make it into my best new wardriving buddy. And I mention this, because who the heck uses those tablet pc's anyhow?
..all i can really do is echo the standard sentiment. Except the .NET hate. I mean, most of it's prolly justified (Though only heaven knows, it not exactly a software package/framework people cut their teeth on), but i get this feeling, mostly from using it this past couple of months, that it will be here for the duration, for better or worse. The fact that it has so much crap integrated into it, and not to mention (considering its STILL in an extremely immature stage, and its rather broad functionality) its actually one of the MOST (if not the most) stable/functional(if not practial) things ever to come out of M$, it just gives me the feeling that this is were they want to head (again, maybe not the best idea, hell maybe not even in top 100, but i digress). That, and i like my compilers/FW's to be just like me, simple (not right, not always rational, but simple ;P).
All i can say is that while their tech support/service (general customer care) is more then lacking, the fact that they lifted the cap of all cable subscribers for a year and half (up here in MI, btw, were getting 2mbit dl's for basic price), and are now taking this stance against totalitarism , has made me a loyal customer for (hopefully) years to come. Keep it up guys!
I dont know man, i get all my pens from drug companies.
"And don't think it was any better in 1980's, 1940's, 1920's or in XIX century." agree with ya uptill slightly past the XIX century mark. Theodore Roosevelt is, without a doubt, the last bad ass man to grace this country as President (since, its really been all career politicans). But then again, it was technically September 14, 1901, so i guess your off the hook :P
Personally, i want to clone em and get the rough riders together whop some GOP butt (cause lets face it, he would be none to happy about his party now days.)
Great....a justification for Leet speak...