Errrm, when Joe User shuts down his client before the remote p2p client goes away and the IP is reassigned, his cache will hold the address as it was still valid.
When he then starts his client 3 days later, that IP will be there, and a connection attempted.
Multiply that by all the people who will only start their client every few days, and you get the situation where it can take a while for stale IP addreses to be lost - the client timeout will be irrelevant then - unless you also specify clients expire addresses on age - even if the client has been shutdown for a while - but in that case, a client that has been offline for a few days would come back up with no valid seeds!
> I am a student with a dialup connection at home. The only way I can possibly install most > software is by compiling "fetch lists" and then fetching files from the school connection. > The easiest way to get FreeBSD is to download ISOs,
If it is that awkward for you, why didn't you simply wait another week for the final release ?
> If Dag-Erling and Poul-Henning hadn't been acting like a couple of condescending a*holes > I'd have released my patches (more than 8,000 lines of code so far) under a BSD license. > That's all I wanted, respect. I didn't get any, so no patches for you.
No, you're being a tit. Even if D-E and P-H had behaved the way you describe, it's no reason to not provide your code to the project. - It's not like they make money off it.. You are taking it out on all the FreeBSD users out there...
But of course, the REAL reason is that your code simply doesn't exist, or doesn't work.
Just suppose your tweaks do work. If they are not available to anyone else, that makes your OS proprietary. Why would anyone prefer your OS and your support over a free FreeBSD system and the ability to get support from any of a wide group of companies ?
I don't know about the chip, but the PINS aren't held in the magnetic strip, although I think they may have used to be..
When cash machines first came out, they didn't have realtime links to the central bank for your account. So the card held the value for the amount you'd withdrawn that day (and therefore presumably also the pin), so that if you went to another machine, it could make sure you hadn't withdrawn over your daily allowance.
A popular scam at the time cash machines first came out was to get your own legitimate card, with (say) a £500 quid a day limit.
Clone the card (e.g.) 60 times(sticking a piece of video tape over any old piece of plastic of the same size would do), then go to (e.g.) 60 different cash point machines - on each card, you withdraw your £500 quid limit, you then toss (or reprogramme) the card, and use the next card on a new machine etc.
Then after the day is done, you do a runner:-)
Back then, though, I think the problem wasn't that great, due to the fact that there weren't all that many cash machines around !
And... there are various form of keypad entry systems.. What's stopping Mr Shopkeeper from altering the device to record a copy of the PIN you enter ? Or pointing a tiny covert video camera at the device ? As he already has the magnetic strip info, he just trundles down to the cash machine with his made up card and enters the PIN.
Whilst in the past some criminals would hide/wire up devices to cash machines, they can now do so from the comfort of their own shops..
The PIN should NOT be the same as the one used in places where the card isn't visually inspected (i.e. cash machines)
> Would you seriously suggest that I should not go to windowsupdate.microsoft.com? > The software my company requires needs to be kept up.
Naaah, of course not. My comment was meant humourously - it just sounded funny that you'd not warp stats by spoofing your browser as IE, but would instead actually USE IE to visit the same site:-)
> You mean one of the two sites I EVER vist with IE on my work provided Windows box? > The only reason I do this is that it will NOT fly if the user agent shows an alternate > browser, and I won't contribute to the artificial inflation of IE user stats by falsifying > my user agent.
So instead, you contribute to the artifical inflation of IE user stats by using IE to access the site when you otherwise wouldn't...
What's the difference ? Other than more work for you ?
Well, the grandparent was saying his problem was with accessing websites by IP only, and whilst the parent said he was SOL, I suggested a way around it, which wouldn't require any visits to IP only websites.....
or pay $10 a year to get your own domain, and add your own names to map the ip addresses.
Even if you don't have a server etc. a lot of domain-registration places now have web interfaces where you can modify and add entries via their servers.
If you get the domain mydomain.com you can just add dodgysite.mydomain.com in your dns config and use that!
I hate the fact everything has a config file/directory in my home directory. My home directory is cluttered with loads of them (yes, I always "ls" with -a)
I remember way back when, when unix acccounts were more scarce and share, you could set the environment variable "DOTDIR" to the directory you wanted configuration files put into.
SETENV DOTDIR "$HOME/.config"
made things much clearer, but no applications these days seem to support it
Are you sure they are actually "open" ? I thought the windows firewall simply made them appear "closed" (RST) instead of just ignoring the requests...... - i.e. they appear closed to the internet even if there is some service running on those ports.
But how can you tell that a "0.1" (using your example) is a 0 that was previously a 1, and not (say) a 0 that was previously a 0 that was previously a 1 that was previousy a 1 etc..
In other words, if you write over the disk with random data TWICE, how can the values hold any meaning - i.e. if the people examining the disk can't gaurantee that the bit positions have only been written twice, how can they determine the data history ?
This is why I can't see how the earlier post someone made about them being able to retrieve many levels of history from a disk makes sense.
Slashdot Mirror
Why do so many slashdotters feel the need to always post such awful analogies ?
> You know how you see an ellipsis (...) after some menu options?
:-) ....
Always noticed them, but never noticed the association!
I just thought it was how some people write sentences ending like this.............
And some don't......
And that it was just arbitrary depending on who happened to code the menu, or what writing-style-mood he was in at the time........
Errrm, when Joe User shuts down his client before the remote p2p client goes away and the IP is reassigned, his cache will hold the address as it was still valid.
When he then starts his client 3 days later, that IP will be there, and a connection attempted.
Multiply that by all the people who will only start their client every few days, and you get the situation where it can take a while for stale IP addreses to be lost - the client timeout will be irrelevant then - unless you also specify clients expire addresses on age - even if the client has been shutdown for a while - but in that case, a client that has been offline for a few days would come back up with no valid seeds!
> I am a student with a dialup connection at home. The only way I can possibly install most
> software is by compiling "fetch lists" and then fetching files from the school connection.
> The easiest way to get FreeBSD is to download ISOs,
If it is that awkward for you, why didn't you simply wait another week for the final release ?
Spot the difference.. He's substituted "HawkinsOS" for "DragonFly" !
t /2004-September/036930.html
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-curren
I hope these anonymous postings are not really by "Hawkins", but just some other people pretending to be nutjobs...
Spot the difference.. He's substituted "HawkingsOS" for "DragonFly" !
e nt /2004-September/036930.html
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-curr
I hope these anonymous postings are not really by "Hawkings", but just some people pretending to be nutjobs...
Out of interest, I don't suppose you have the stats for the same operation on Freebsd 4.10 (or any other 4.X) ?
> If Dag-Erling and Poul-Henning hadn't been acting like a couple of condescending a*holes
> I'd have released my patches (more than 8,000 lines of code so far) under a BSD license.
> That's all I wanted, respect. I didn't get any, so no patches for you.
No, you're being a tit. Even if D-E and P-H had behaved the way you describe, it's no reason to not provide your code to the project. - It's not like they make money off it.. You are taking it out on all the FreeBSD users out there...
But of course, the REAL reason is that your code simply doesn't exist, or doesn't work.
Just suppose your tweaks do work. If they are not available to anyone else, that makes your OS proprietary. Why would anyone prefer your OS and your support over a free FreeBSD system and the ability to get support from any of a wide group of companies ?
> In FreeBSD you have alot of files in /etc and in /usr/local/examples/etc(if you use 5.x)
/usr/share/examples/etc on both 4.10 and 5.X
Seems to be
I don't know about the chip, but the PINS aren't held in the magnetic strip, although I think they may have used to be..
:-)
When cash machines first came out, they didn't have realtime links to the central bank for your account. So the card held the value for the amount you'd withdrawn that day (and therefore presumably also the pin), so that if you went to another machine, it could make sure you hadn't withdrawn over your daily allowance.
A popular scam at the time cash machines first came out was to get your own legitimate card, with (say) a £500 quid a day limit.
Clone the card (e.g.) 60 times(sticking a piece of video tape over any old piece of plastic of the same size would do), then go to (e.g.) 60 different cash point machines - on each card, you withdraw your £500 quid limit, you then toss (or reprogramme) the card, and use the next card on a new machine etc.
Then after the day is done, you do a runner
Back then, though, I think the problem wasn't that great, due to the fact that there weren't all that many cash machines around !
And... there are various form of keypad entry systems.. What's stopping Mr Shopkeeper from altering the device to record a copy of the PIN you enter ? Or pointing a tiny covert video camera at the device ? As he already has the magnetic strip info, he just trundles down to the cash machine with his made up card and enters the PIN.
Whilst in the past some criminals would hide/wire up devices to cash machines, they can now do so from the comfort of their own shops..
The PIN should NOT be the same as the one used in places where the card isn't visually inspected (i.e. cash machines)
> On a serious note, the SMART cars have been in the US for some time
> now. I used to see them in Florida on a regular basis before moving.
They must move pretty fast if you can't see them after they've started
moving
MOD PARENT UP! (always wanted to say that!)
> Why isn't the credit reporting agency analogy more often used? Regular people should understand that right away.
Regular people ??? Slashdot ???
You're new here, right ?
> Would you seriously suggest that I should not go to windowsupdate.microsoft.com?
:-)
> The software my company requires needs to be kept up.
Naaah, of course not. My comment was meant humourously - it just sounded funny that you'd
not warp stats by spoofing your browser as IE, but would instead actually USE IE to visit
the same site
> You mean one of the two sites I EVER vist with IE on my work provided Windows box?
> The only reason I do this is that it will NOT fly if the user agent shows an alternate
> browser, and I won't contribute to the artificial inflation of IE user stats by falsifying
> my user agent.
So instead, you contribute to the artifical inflation of IE user stats by using IE to access
the site when you otherwise wouldn't...
What's the difference ? Other than more work for you ?
I clicked on that link and one of the queries was "die slashdotters" !
Well, the grandparent was saying his problem was with accessing websites by IP only, and whilst the parent said he was SOL, I suggested a way around it, which wouldn't require any visits to IP only websites.....
or pay $10 a year to get your own domain, and add your own names to map the ip addresses.
Even if you don't have a server etc. a lot of domain-registration places now have web interfaces where you can modify and add entries via their servers.
If you get the domain mydomain.com you can just add dodgysite.mydomain.com in your dns config and use that!
The idea of the registry is ok, but making it all one file is the problem.
Why not have everything under a central *directory* rather than a central *file* ?
I hate the fact everything has a config file/directory in my home directory.
My home directory is cluttered with loads of them (yes, I always "ls" with -a)
I remember way back when, when unix acccounts were more scarce and share, you could set the environment variable "DOTDIR" to the directory you wanted configuration files put into.
SETENV DOTDIR "$HOME/.config"
made things much clearer, but no applications these days seem to support it
Are you sure they are actually "open" ?
I thought the windows firewall simply made them appear "closed" (RST) instead of just ignoring the requests...... - i.e. they appear closed to the internet even if there is some service running on those ports.
But how can you tell that a "0.1" (using your example) is a 0 that was previously a 1, and not (say) a 0 that was previously a 0 that was previously a 1 that was previousy a 1 etc..
In other words, if you write over the disk with random data TWICE, how can the values hold any meaning - i.e. if the people examining the disk can't gaurantee that the bit positions have only been written twice, how can they determine the data history ?
This is why I can't see how the earlier post someone made about them being able to retrieve many levels of history from a disk makes sense.
It depends... Some way to visibly emphasise the difference between staff and user accounts may be preferable, so maybe @google-users.com :)
@users.google.com
or change staff to @staff.google.com