Yeah, like the guy at digital said: "There is a market for maybe four or five computers world-wide." Seriously, it's good that these guys to be leaving the field: IBM PCs have long been a boon to support(at least at my helpdesk). However, let's bow our heads in silence for the death of a company that brought us interesting hardware innovations (some of which we use now) such as: MicroChannel Architecture, PS/2 ports, AT form factor... Christ, an arguement could be made that we owe them for PC architecture in general. I never liked IBM's machine, but let's at least recognize them as the longest running x86 PC maker...
Unlike PC makers, they aren't shipping them with 16mb or 32mb now...
What the hell are you thinking of, man? Most PC vendors today are in the same boat memory wise as Apple...most home systems now are shipping with 64 megs...if anything, Apple tends to skimp on bundled RAM, I think (probably because their architecture doesn't need as much).
"And I will fight to the death to not have a computer the size of 4 sticks of butter on my person. If anything is the size of 4 sticks of butter it better be Land-O-Lakes Lightly Salted. "
Finally, someone who noticed this absurd unit of measure. What the hell did this writer do? "Well, I've got this new piece of technology designed to let me compute anywhere...question is, is it more portable than the PDA I'm using that's made of butter right now?" Would a clone of this be I-Can't-Believe-It's-Not-IBM?
If I remember correctly, this isn't the first time JP's been called out. Both he and CPM have slowly been making names for themselves as lameasses in the field.
Anyone looking for a background to JP, CPM, and AntiOnline in general should check out Attrition.Org. Look under FIN - there is the remenents of Jericho's documentation regarding liabal and erratta coming from these people. At the very least, it's an amusing read.
Why do minidisc when you can do CD-R and CD-RW and be compatible with the millions of audio CD players out there? Especially now, when CD-R rack components are available for home stereos at prices competing with MiniDisc? MiniDisc and DAT are cool for mastering, but are they really a general public technology?
Without getting into it, a router sits in between two networks. To connect two networks via one PC, you need two NICs. It's not an advantage, it's a necessity.
Who knows how much those ads cover? Is Slashdot turning a profit? Is it supposed to? I know kids in high school who have link exchange banners up on their sites and pull (very marginal) money. Does this mean they're not hobbyists? Ack...
I agree...the difference here, as well, is that if Corel, IBM, MS, etc. decides to pull something in Linux simililar what MS has done with Windows/Office, users need only to switch. This time, however, that doesn't mean a new operating system, with new hardware or apps or whatnot (like the options Windoze users have now: OS/2, Mac, *BSD, *n*x, etc.). They simply go to a less biased distro. Little retraining, little support change, etc (not to say this is still a pain in the ass, but it's definitely not a culture shock). Since Linux is open-source, there's less chance for a monopoly. All of a sudden, its about apps again, not OS.
I hope everyone puts out a distro. The market will weed out the ones that aren't needed, and the exposure in the meantime will spread Linux influence even further...remember the 286 market of the eighties? 400+ companies were churning out PC choices to consumers as opposed to Apples' one. Gee, why did PCs come out on top? The power of choice was a helluva lot greater on the PC side than the Mac. Don't like the way your compaq behaves? Go to IBM. or Epson. Or Joe Bob's Data Troth. Use the same apps, same skills, etc. Anomolies? Hell yes! But the point is you don't have to ditch everything for something completly different.
Linux is about as hot as PCs were in the eighties, so take a deep breath and expect more distros. Some will surely die off, but it'll most likely leave a large user base in its wake. Choice may very well be Linux's killer app.
From crack.linuxppc.org: Processor Info: processor : 0 cpu : 604 clock : 132MHz revision : 3.3 bogomips : 263.78 zero pages : total 0 (0Kb) current: 0 (0Kb) hits: 0/225618 (0%) machine : Power Macintosh motherboard : AAPL,9500 MacRISC L2 cache : 512K unified memory : 160MB Summary, it's a PowerMac 9500 (I believe the first to use PCI, IDE, and the flip-down modular case design) with 160mb.
I'm not sure how well this would work, either, but my gut tells me the one furthest out would have the worst sound quality, seeing how it would be preprocessed three more times before it reached the speakers, and that's assuming you're going from line-out to line-in...from stereo out to line would make your audio sound like dung...
Thank god! Finally, a fellow geek with a small bit of common sense. I was getting ready to say the same damn thing...from I got from the article he's doing for convenience, not to record the stones' next album. An input selector from the Shack or any other electronics store will do fine...
I will hand it to you guys, though...I haven't seen one person suggest that this guy go out and construct a mixer based on linux...
Before teh "average person" decides to go out and raise $700k for jet, maybe he should do a little research on the product he's investing in, hmm? Do you by a car without finding out a little about it first? This guy assumed that he either A) get a jet dirt cheap so he could resell it and make a profit or B) he could sue the pants off of Pepsi for false advertising when this failed. I find it amusing that, for once, the justice system is actually displaying some common freakin' sense.
With EnergyStar, you don't need to turn off your PC...therefore leaving it readily available for use (no startup to wait for...not wear-and-tear on the HD, either). You don't unplug your clock radio once you know the time, do you? No, you leave it on so that, later, you can look again without having to plug it back in and reset the time and alarms (which I guess defeats the point, but you get the picture)...
a) Moderator: non-biased, eh? I'm sure if he had said "Will somebody explain how this "Linux running suboptimally on an Intel platform" differs one iota from the situation today? ?" He would have been moderated out. I'm saying this comment should have, but please, show us a little consistancy.
b) I'm not sure if "Windows running suboptimally on an Intel platform" will be the window of opportunity everyone thinks it will be. Look at Wince in the Palmtop scene. Palm Computing has held them off because they came out first with a lighter, more efficient OS. Even with that in mind, a year later, it's only them and Wince.
Where are the alternatives? Why didn't any other OS survive? Methinks it's the Microsoft name. It as recognizable in the computing world as Gap is in the clothing world, and makes marketing incredibly easy.
The the GUI problem everyone keeps talking about is another biggie. The berlin project and the twenty other GUIs out there are nice, but MS has a polished OS _today_. Not "soon" or "in beta", but on the shelves at Walmart. Does it work well? Well...look at it this way, Corvettes run like crap, but look sexy so they sell like hotcakes. iMac, even with Apple on the rise, is still based on a platform that commands less than 10 percent of the market, but it sold 1.9 million in less than one year based largely on appearence. Most people want appliances that, among other things, look cool.
I don't know...maybe people just want one stop shopping...not a kernal from linux, GUI from somewhere else, an office suite from eastbumblefudge...even if they buy crap from MS, at least it's consistant crap...
Ack...I just read through this...Don't mean to sound bitchy, I just need sleep...
Also, the "top of the line" life of a console is longer than that of a pc.
Well, actually, no. If you think about it, PS has been out for about 3, maybe four years now and is still considered top of the line. The computers of three - four years ago are best seen at your local used computer store and boat anchor supply.
Since the hardware involved with a gaming console is (almost) non-modular (PS's memory card concept is an exception), and each console iteration tends to be a completely different animal from the last, they tend to last longer on the market...or I'm talking out of my ass...
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Hey moderator, guess what? If it's the first post in a dicussion (and it doesn't say "First Post! Ph33r my sk1llz!"), it's _not_ redundant...
Yeah, like the guy at digital said: "There is a market for maybe four or five computers world-wide." Seriously, it's good that these guys to be leaving the field: IBM PCs have long been a boon to support(at least at my helpdesk). However, let's bow our heads in silence for the death of a company that brought us interesting hardware innovations (some of which we use now) such as: MicroChannel Architecture, PS/2 ports, AT form factor... Christ, an arguement could be made that we owe them for PC architecture in general. I never liked IBM's machine, but let's at least recognize them as the longest running x86 PC maker...
Unlike PC makers, they aren't shipping them with 16mb or 32mb now...
What the hell are you thinking of, man? Most PC vendors today are in the same boat memory wise as Apple...most home systems now are shipping with 64 megs...if anything, Apple tends to skimp on bundled RAM, I think (probably because their architecture doesn't need as much).
"And I will fight to the death to not have a computer the size of 4 sticks of butter on my person. If anything is the size of 4 sticks of butter it better be Land-O-Lakes Lightly Salted. "
Finally, someone who noticed this absurd unit of measure. What the hell did this writer do? "Well, I've got this new piece of technology designed to let me compute anywhere...question is, is it more portable than the PDA I'm using that's made of butter right now?" Would a clone of this be I-Can't-Believe-It's-Not-IBM?
Just what the hell was this guy thinking?
If I remember correctly, this isn't the first time JP's been called out. Both he and CPM have slowly been making names for themselves as lameasses in the field.
Anyone looking for a background to JP, CPM, and AntiOnline in general should check out Attrition.Org. Look under FIN - there is the remenents of Jericho's documentation regarding liabal and erratta coming from these people. At the very least, it's an amusing read.
http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msp98/orbiter/now.html
Where the hell is it, Lewbowski? We gonna cut off yo' Jshonson...
http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msp98/orbiter/now.html
Where is it?! Where is everyone getting this info from? Include links if you're going to tell us that it's been found...
Why do minidisc when you can do CD-R and CD-RW and be compatible with the millions of audio CD players out there? Especially now, when CD-R rack components are available for home stereos at prices competing with MiniDisc? MiniDisc and DAT are cool for mastering, but are they really a general public technology?
Without getting into it, a router sits in between two networks. To connect two networks via one PC, you need two NICs. It's not an advantage, it's a necessity.
Go here...
http://www.news-observer.com/fun/
...and follow the Foxtrot link for today's comic...
Very amusing, Cow...that just went up on my wall...
Who knows how much those ads cover? Is Slashdot turning a profit? Is it supposed to? I know kids in high school who have link exchange banners up on their sites and pull (very marginal) money. Does this mean they're not hobbyists? Ack...
Funny, always has been for me...is your ISP using NT?
I agree...the difference here, as well, is that if Corel, IBM, MS, etc. decides to pull something in Linux simililar what MS has done with Windows/Office, users need only to switch. This time, however, that doesn't mean a new operating system, with new hardware or apps or whatnot (like the options Windoze users have now: OS/2, Mac, *BSD, *n*x, etc.). They simply go to a less biased distro. Little retraining, little support change, etc (not to say this is still a pain in the ass, but it's definitely not a culture shock). Since Linux is open-source, there's less chance for a monopoly. All of a sudden, its about apps again, not OS.
I hope everyone puts out a distro. The market will weed out the ones that aren't needed, and the exposure in the meantime will spread Linux influence even further...remember the 286 market of the eighties? 400+ companies were churning out PC choices to consumers as opposed to Apples' one. Gee, why did PCs come out on top? The power of choice was a helluva lot greater on the PC side than the Mac. Don't like the way your compaq behaves? Go to IBM. or Epson. Or Joe Bob's Data Troth. Use the same apps, same skills, etc. Anomolies? Hell yes! But the point is you don't have to ditch everything for something completly different.
Linux is about as hot as PCs were in the eighties, so take a deep breath and expect more distros. Some will surely die off, but it'll most likely leave a large user base in its wake. Choice may very well be Linux's killer app.
I suppose a few
s would have helped there...my bad...
From crack.linuxppc.org: Processor Info: processor : 0 cpu : 604 clock : 132MHz revision : 3.3 bogomips : 263.78 zero pages : total 0 (0Kb) current: 0 (0Kb) hits: 0/225618 (0%) machine : Power Macintosh motherboard : AAPL,9500 MacRISC L2 cache : 512K unified memory : 160MB Summary, it's a PowerMac 9500 (I believe the first to use PCI, IDE, and the flip-down modular case design) with 160mb.
Check the bottom of crack.linuxppc.org...
Was crack crack win crack there previously? I don't remember it...
I'm not sure how well this would work, either, but my gut tells me the one furthest out would have the worst sound quality, seeing how it would be preprocessed three more times before it reached the speakers, and that's assuming you're going from line-out to line-in...from stereo out to line would make your audio sound like dung...
Thank god! Finally, a fellow geek with a small bit of common sense. I was getting ready to say the same damn thing...from I got from the article he's doing for convenience, not to record the stones' next album. An input selector from the Shack or any other electronics store will do fine...
I will hand it to you guys, though...I haven't seen one person suggest that this guy go out and construct a mixer based on linux...
Before teh "average person" decides to go out and raise $700k for jet, maybe he should do a little research on the product he's investing in, hmm? Do you by a car without finding out a little about it first? This guy assumed that he either A) get a jet dirt cheap so he could resell it and make a profit or B) he could sue the pants off of Pepsi for false advertising when this failed. I find it amusing that, for once, the justice system is actually displaying some common freakin' sense.
Maybe the SNL of 18-20 years ago...but not today's...not by a long shot...
That's what Windows Update does for the most part now...
With EnergyStar, you don't need to turn off your PC...therefore leaving it readily available for use (no startup to wait for...not wear-and-tear on the HD, either). You don't unplug your clock radio once you know the time, do you? No, you leave it on so that, later, you can look again without having to plug it back in and reset the time and alarms (which I guess defeats the point, but you get the picture)...
Okay, two things:
a) Moderator: non-biased, eh? I'm sure if he had said "Will somebody explain how this "Linux running suboptimally on an Intel platform" differs one iota from the situation today? ?" He would have been moderated out. I'm saying this comment should have, but please, show us a little consistancy.
b) I'm not sure if "Windows running suboptimally on an Intel platform" will be the window of opportunity everyone thinks it will be. Look at Wince in the Palmtop scene. Palm Computing has held them off because they came out first with a lighter, more efficient OS. Even with that in mind, a year later, it's only them and Wince.
Where are the alternatives? Why didn't any other OS survive? Methinks it's the Microsoft name. It as recognizable in the computing world as Gap is in the clothing world, and makes marketing incredibly easy.
The the GUI problem everyone keeps talking about is another biggie. The berlin project and the twenty other GUIs out there are nice, but MS has a polished OS _today_. Not "soon" or "in beta", but on the shelves at Walmart. Does it work well? Well...look at it this way, Corvettes run like crap, but look sexy so they sell like hotcakes. iMac, even with Apple on the rise, is still based on a platform that commands less than 10 percent of the market, but it sold 1.9 million in less than one year based largely on appearence. Most people want appliances that, among other things, look cool.
I don't know...maybe people just want one stop shopping...not a kernal from linux, GUI from somewhere else, an office suite from eastbumblefudge...even if they buy crap from MS, at least it's consistant crap...
Ack...I just read through this...Don't mean to sound bitchy, I just need sleep...
Also, the "top of the line" life of a console is longer than that of a pc.
Well, actually, no. If you think about it, PS has been out for about 3, maybe four years now and is still considered top of the line. The computers of three - four years ago are best seen at your local used computer store and boat anchor supply.
Since the hardware involved with a gaming console is (almost) non-modular (PS's memory card concept is an exception), and each console iteration tends to be a completely different animal from the last, they tend to last longer on the market...or I'm talking out of my ass...
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