They cant, nobody can. Apple products are priced somewhat higher, but not significantly for the quality of the parts offered. You can surely buy a dirt cheap PC, but it will not have the same quality and reliablity as what an apple product does.
Assuming windows XP is fully supported on intel macs, I will forever own a mac laptop, and even if its not, I will most likely forever own a mac laptop.
Biology can not explain 'Blind Faith', which is what religion is based upon. Without Blind Faith religion would have no following because nobody has seen anything to make them believe in anything. Laws and countries, life and death is decided upon a piece of writing that can never be proved factual (the Bible). To me the overwhelming evidence and proof positive that evolution in fact did take place is much clearer, and much more in your face than any religion ever could be. religion has never been proved and Jesus just might have been an insane person with a mental problem. What facts disprove that?
What I find is how the government wanted to be excluded from any injunctions/service shut downs. The government says that they are not above the law, but... this sure says they want to be. =)
Now that crackberry addict government people are safe with their phones, the patent reform issue is moot because they got their crack and are happy.
For thousands of years music was played for enjoyment and not for profit. I personally know quite a few people who are rather talented musically, but who wouldnt ever try to earn millions upon millions of dollars each year to sell their music.
The laws need to change to allow our soceity to change, DRM, DMCA, they all stiffle innovation and hold us back from development. Why must one person decide that because he played a Piano in a certain way, that nobody else can ever play the piano in that same way? Thats BS.
I wish for the day when we have the computers of Star Trek and when I want to play music, I say.. 'Computer, Karl Jenkins, Imagined Oceans' and it starts to play it.. It doesnt say, We are sorry, this work is copyrighted and you need to insert $1 to play this album.
Granted this is a little off-topic, but I still think that its not the applicaitons that need to change to suit the laws, but the laws that need to change to suit the future of mankind and not keep us in the dark ages because developers are afraid to develop.
Cray as a company in general is amazing, they have been around forever and they dont sell bulk crap computers, go figure... The inspiration behind Cray is definitly worth a good study for future computer industry companies.
I can say that for the past 9 months that I have used the powerbook exclusively for web design and program, that it has worked utterly flawlessly while I often sit and wait on my PC's to do something, I am busy working and being productive with my mac.
Anyone such as yourself can compare two machines that are completely off balanced and get bad results.
For one, the machine you are 'testing' on does not run OS X, which is the main point of this entire thread. Secondly, OS 8,which you are probably running, and OS X are worlds, galaxies apart in performance and stability.
In some 8 months I haven't ever once had to switch off the power to my macs because they locked up due to a system problem. I do it quite frequently on my PC's. This alone speaks volumes about the stability.
From your own statements are you about as clueless as most politicians are on real life issues facing their jurisdictions.
Not to mention that on most windows machines a vast portion of the resources is devoted to security and virus scanning, where as on an OS X system the vast majority of resources is devoted to.... doing whatever you please to do with the computer.
And E-mail is considered private unless the company states in writing that it is subject to being opened by the Company. The government doing this violates our right to privacy.
Since when has the US Government given an once of thought to someone's privacy execpt when it was an election year and they thought they might get sued and have some bad publicity.
Lets just not even go to the fundamentals or abuses of the patRIOT act.
Even if the US Govt passes laws that will allow such, imagine the storage requirements to catalog and archive the internet, including... every news site, blog and email on the Internet... Get real! My own email archive of non-spam emails is well over several hundered megabytes. I am told by friends who work in larger IT departments that they have problems with outlook once the inbox reaches 2 gig!
The amount of storage required to first, intercept, second, catalog every email sent on the internet would be an astounding figure!
Wishlist? Sure, Government wants to do this. Plausable? Not anytime soon, atleast not with personal emails and instant messenger chats, not even with high compression of text.
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Actually Apple will probably put some sort of a mobile OS X on it. In my oppinion, palm os is dead, dying and burried. The most usefull products they give are their windows based toys. *gasp* I voted for windows.
Apple will do it correctly if they bring in a pocket PC product. They are not the leading seller of MP3 players for no reason, they did it right when others didnt.
They are an older generation who uses computers to word process and spreadsheet, if that. The newer generation of press, and media proffessionals know the lingo, know the basics and know how to report on these. Its not hard, its just similar to your parents, you wouldnt expect them to understand:)
Maybe they need to focus upon MMO addictions inplace of 'learning how to change your oil instead', and trying to say that computer games and MMO's specfically are a bad thing.
$15 a month is a lot cheaper, and a lot more safe than roaming the streets and doing drugs or being an alchy!
Yes but google is the search giant.. Would you want to be able to search other peoples IM's to find out who likes pink, cherry flavored popcicles? We all know that google logs what you search for, I just fear that google, without you knowing, would log what you chat about!
Trillian Secure IM -and- Off-the-Record Messaging are your friends.
Pretty soon we will be carrying our tin foil encrusted wallets and clothing interlaced with foil to foil the detection system of the aliens watching us.
I wonder if government will advocate tracking of people using RFID, or advocate banning the tracking of people via RFID?
for the time I spent working tech support at a college, all I know is that some of the faculty teaching computers was more computer illiterate than a lot of the students. All the faculty knew how to do was teach from a book, nothing more.
For example, one graphics arts teacher who taught photoshop thought that our server was just a group of files that we copied to each computer and assigned that group of files a drive letter.
Another ( I am not joking ) Assumed that email was printed out and delivered to various faculty on campus by the recipients secretaries. (His, actually did that from time to time.)
Then the Dean of Information Technology would tell one person to do something, turn around and tell another person to assist but what they told the person who was supposed to be assisting was two completely different things, and latter one of the two would get asked why they didn't do what was asked of them.
With as much moolah as some of these stars rake in, I am seriously surprised that they dont retain their own tech support to go with them and live with them.
Who needs technology when you have someone to do it for you.
I really think that people are becoming more and more prepared for viruses, I would also venture to say that more and more people are running virus scanners and more and more isps are filtering the content of the emails and other methods of transmissions.
Overreaction? Maybe, but definitly better than underreaction.
Military in space has been on the drawing board since times creation. Think about the Star Wars program that sank billions of dollars and never did anything? Its only inevitable that militaries will have a space presence.
Does it worry me? No.. It would make me feel better protected against possible upcomming nuclear threats from agressive nations.
Also dont forget encryption, If you can encrypt your stream then your ISP has no real clue what it is. I can foresee encryption becoming a major hurdle for this scheme.
Ok, so it's true that they're allowing people to use Apple laptops and computers while still receiving the benefit of Microsoft's Office Suite. But let's consider that the average Apple user just plain doesn't like Windows. Sure, there's some people running both Windows and OSX in their homes right now but I'm guessing that's pretty rare. I would say these users are about as polarized as the last U.S. presidential election.
With the advent of sub $500 macs, I know quite a few people who have both at their homes now. To me, the windows PC is a must have evil for work a few selected applications.
A year ago, If you had told me that I would be typing this on a Mac Powerbook, I would have told you that you was out of your mind. Now I enjoy OSX, And I painfully submit to my windows based PC's, and graciously do both without a lot of fanfare and complaint. There is a lot that both platforms offer, and more and more people are realizing this. Thus more and more people are becomming 'dual users'.
With such an advanced soceity as we have, its amazing how frail and utterly devistatable our communications and electrical utilies are. With the recent hurricanes, they estimate MONTHS before some places get electricity back. We have the ability to have blackouts the cover entire states.Havnt we learned from google that one huge supercomputer is not better than a million smaller computers? If each city, each neighborhood has a microgrid for power and communications that was burried and belowground, sealed against weather then our communications and electrical infastructure would remain even after huge natrual disasters such as these hurricanes that we have been so blessed with this season.
a top of the line dell notebook, with a 17" screen, 100 gig hard drive, 1.5 gig of ram, dvd burner, built in wifi and gigabit ethernet would not cost 1/3rd of the cost. More like marginaly 15-20% less
I have had nothing but pure success with my powerbook. I have had no mechanical failures or warranty issues. My powerbook 17" is much, much more reliable than my last 2 Dell PC based notebooks. Far more stlyish and far better in the overall design department. With my Dell notebooks I have had two LCD's go bad, 2 hard drives, 1 video card, 1 built in firewire port, 1 built in ethernet port. With the powerbook, nothing.. everything is perfect. PC notebooks are infact cheaper. Marginally faster, but never more reliable. I would trust my powerbook to be working, exactly as is in 4-5 years. I would never begin to want to even trust a PC notebook to work after the warranty expires.
I think the deal is more because Intel can provide the entire chipset and CPU where as AMD cannot. AMD is clearly the winner for preformance per dollar and or per watt. If AMD was to get a contact as to where they would need to produce 3-6 million more CPU's per yet, I am sure that would possibly even warrant a new fab plant to ensure that Apple got what they contracted.
I also agree that I doubt we will ever see AMD and Intel Macs anywhere on the horizions, unless intel comes out with a standard socket, an standard pinout and AMD makes chips to fit in intel boards and the end user is able to swap them.
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They cant, nobody can. Apple products are priced somewhat higher, but not significantly for the quality of the parts offered. You can surely buy a dirt cheap PC, but it will not have the same quality and reliablity as what an apple product does.
Assuming windows XP is fully supported on intel macs, I will forever own a mac laptop, and even if its not, I will most likely forever own a mac laptop.
Biology can not explain 'Blind Faith', which is what religion is based upon. Without Blind Faith religion would have no following because nobody has seen anything to make them believe in anything. Laws and countries, life and death is decided upon a piece of writing that can never be proved factual (the Bible). To me the overwhelming evidence and proof positive that evolution in fact did take place is much clearer, and much more in your face than any religion ever could be. religion has never been proved and Jesus just might have been an insane person with a mental problem. What facts disprove that?
What I find is how the government wanted to be excluded from any injunctions/service shut downs. The government says that they are not above the law, but... this sure says they want to be. =)
Now that crackberry addict government people are safe with their phones, the patent reform issue is moot because they got their crack and are happy.
For thousands of years music was played for enjoyment and not for profit. I personally know quite a few people who are rather talented musically, but who wouldnt ever try to earn millions upon millions of dollars each year to sell their music.
The laws need to change to allow our soceity to change, DRM, DMCA, they all stiffle innovation and hold us back from development. Why must one person decide that because he played a Piano in a certain way, that nobody else can ever play the piano in that same way? Thats BS.
.. 'Computer, Karl Jenkins, Imagined Oceans' and it starts to play it.. It doesnt say, We are sorry, this work is copyrighted and you need to insert $1 to play this album.
I wish for the day when we have the computers of Star Trek and when I want to play music, I say
Granted this is a little off-topic, but I still think that its not the applicaitons that need to change to suit the laws, but the laws that need to change to suit the future of mankind and not keep us in the dark ages because developers are afraid to develop.
Cray as a company in general is amazing, they have been around forever and they dont sell bulk crap computers, go figure... The inspiration behind Cray is definitly worth a good study for future computer industry companies.
Yes, yes it is windows XP.
I know that Linux is more stable for the standard PC platform, I use it for our webserverl
That said, between OS X and Windows XP, I find OS X to be more stable by a wide, wide margain.
Having 3 PC's and 2 macs in my house, I can say that the macs preform much, much better under stress than the PC's do.
.... doing whatever you please to do with the computer.
System Stats
optiplex G1 p450 512mb ram, 40 gig hdd
homebuilt AMD XP 2400+, 1 gig ram, 2x160gig hdds, geforce 6800
homebuilt AMD sempron 3200, 1 gig ram, 1x 34 gig raptor 10krpm hdd, 1x300gig sata2 hdd.
Mac Powerbook G4 1.67ghz, 1.5gig ram, 80gig 7200rpm hdd, radeon 9700
Mac Mini 1.54ghz, 1 gig ram, 80 gig 5400rpm hdd
I can say that for the past 9 months that I have used the powerbook exclusively for web design and program, that it has worked utterly flawlessly while I often sit and wait on my PC's to do something, I am busy working and being productive with my mac.
Anyone such as yourself can compare two machines that are completely off balanced and get bad results.
For one, the machine you are 'testing' on does not run OS X, which is the main point of this entire thread. Secondly, OS 8,which you are probably running, and OS X are worlds, galaxies apart in performance and stability.
In some 8 months I haven't ever once had to switch off the power to my macs because they locked up due to a system problem. I do it quite frequently on my PC's. This alone speaks volumes about the stability.
From your own statements are you about as clueless as most politicians are on real life issues facing their jurisdictions.
Not to mention that on most windows machines a vast portion of the resources is devoted to security and virus scanning, where as on an OS X system the vast majority of resources is devoted to
Since when has the US Government given an once of thought to someone's privacy execpt when it was an election year and they thought they might get sued and have some bad publicity.
Lets just not even go to the fundamentals or abuses of the patRIOT act.
Even if the US Govt passes laws that will allow such, imagine the storage requirements to catalog and archive the internet, including ... every news site, blog and email on the Internet ... Get real! My own email archive of non-spam emails is well over several hundered megabytes. I am told by friends who work in larger IT departments that they have problems with outlook once the inbox reaches 2 gig!
The amount of storage required to first, intercept, second, catalog every email sent on the internet would be an astounding figure!
Wishlist? Sure, Government wants to do this. Plausable? Not anytime soon, atleast not with personal emails and instant messenger chats, not even with high compression of text.
Actually Apple will probably put some sort of a mobile OS X on it. In my oppinion, palm os is dead, dying and burried. The most usefull products they give are their windows based toys. *gasp* I voted for windows.
Apple will do it correctly if they bring in a pocket PC product. They are not the leading seller of MP3 players for no reason, they did it right when others didnt.
They are an older generation who uses computers to word process and spreadsheet, if that. The newer generation of press, and media proffessionals know the lingo, know the basics and know how to report on these. Its not hard, its just similar to your parents, you wouldnt expect them to understand :)
Maybe they need to focus upon MMO addictions inplace of 'learning how to change your oil instead', and trying to say that computer games and MMO's specfically are a bad thing.
$15 a month is a lot cheaper, and a lot more safe than roaming the streets and doing drugs or being an alchy!
THAT my friend is my entire point and why everyone should be using encryption of some sort if they wish their chats read by only the parties invited!
Yes but google is the search giant.. Would you want to be able to search other peoples IM's to find out who likes pink, cherry flavored popcicles? We all know that google logs what you search for, I just fear that google, without you knowing, would log what you chat about!
Trillian Secure IM -and- Off-the-Record Messaging are your friends.
Pretty soon we will be carrying our tin foil encrusted wallets and clothing interlaced with foil to foil the detection system of the aliens watching us.
I wonder if government will advocate tracking of people using RFID, or advocate banning the tracking of people via RFID?
for the time I spent working tech support at a college, all I know is that some of the faculty teaching computers was more computer illiterate than a lot of the students. All the faculty knew how to do was teach from a book, nothing more.
For example, one graphics arts teacher who taught photoshop thought that our server was just a group of files that we copied to each computer and assigned that group of files a drive letter.
Another ( I am not joking ) Assumed that email was printed out and delivered to various faculty on campus by the recipients secretaries. (His, actually did that from time to time.)
Then the Dean of Information Technology would tell one person to do something, turn around and tell another person to assist but what they told the person who was supposed to be assisting was two completely different things, and latter one of the two would get asked why they didn't do what was asked of them.
With as much moolah as some of these stars rake in, I am seriously surprised that they dont retain their own tech support to go with them and live with them.
Who needs technology when you have someone to do it for you.
I really think that people are becoming more and more prepared for viruses, I would also venture to say that more and more people are running virus scanners and more and more isps are filtering the content of the emails and other methods of transmissions.
Overreaction? Maybe, but definitly better than underreaction.
Military in space has been on the drawing board since times creation. Think about the Star Wars program that sank billions of dollars and never did anything? Its only inevitable that militaries will have a space presence.
Does it worry me? No.. It would make me feel better protected against possible upcomming nuclear threats from agressive nations.
Also dont forget encryption, If you can encrypt your stream then your ISP has no real clue what it is. I can foresee encryption becoming a major hurdle for this scheme.
Ok, so it's true that they're allowing people to use Apple laptops and computers while still receiving the benefit of Microsoft's Office Suite. But let's consider that the average Apple user just plain doesn't like Windows. Sure, there's some people running both Windows and OSX in their homes right now but I'm guessing that's pretty rare. I would say these users are about as polarized as the last U.S. presidential election.
With the advent of sub $500 macs, I know quite a few people who have both at their homes now. To me, the windows PC is a must have evil for work a few selected applications.
A year ago, If you had told me that I would be typing this on a Mac Powerbook, I would have told you that you was out of your mind. Now I enjoy OSX, And I painfully submit to my windows based PC's, and graciously do both without a lot of fanfare and complaint. There is a lot that both platforms offer, and more and more people are realizing this. Thus more and more people are becomming 'dual users'.
With such an advanced soceity as we have, its amazing how frail and utterly devistatable our communications and electrical utilies are. With the recent hurricanes, they estimate MONTHS before some places get electricity back. We have the ability to have blackouts the cover entire states.Havnt we learned from google that one huge supercomputer is not better than a million smaller computers? If each city, each neighborhood has a microgrid for power and communications that was burried and belowground, sealed against weather then our communications and electrical infastructure would remain even after huge natrual disasters such as these hurricanes that we have been so blessed with this season.
a top of the line dell notebook, with a 17" screen, 100 gig hard drive, 1.5 gig of ram, dvd burner, built in wifi and gigabit ethernet would not cost 1/3rd of the cost. More like marginaly 15-20% less
I have had nothing but pure success with my powerbook. I have had no mechanical failures or warranty issues. My powerbook 17" is much, much more reliable than my last 2 Dell PC based notebooks. Far more stlyish and far better in the overall design department. With my Dell notebooks I have had two LCD's go bad, 2 hard drives, 1 video card, 1 built in firewire port, 1 built in ethernet port. With the powerbook, nothing.. everything is perfect. PC notebooks are infact cheaper. Marginally faster, but never more reliable. I would trust my powerbook to be working, exactly as is in 4-5 years. I would never begin to want to even trust a PC notebook to work after the warranty expires.
I thought it was windows that he likes to break?
I think the deal is more because Intel can provide the entire chipset and CPU where as AMD cannot. AMD is clearly the winner for preformance per dollar and or per watt. If AMD was to get a contact as to where they would need to produce 3-6 million more CPU's per yet, I am sure that would possibly even warrant a new fab plant to ensure that Apple got what they contracted.
I also agree that I doubt we will ever see AMD and Intel Macs anywhere on the horizions, unless intel comes out with a standard socket, an standard pinout and AMD makes chips to fit in intel boards and the end user is able to swap them.