I don't see Apple doing this out of the goodness of their hearts, to honestly try "improving the world" or making it easier for those less physically able.
What will happen in the end is if Apple release this as an accessory with OSX, then people who absolutely require it for computer use will be locked in to one brand, one vendor.
And that is a monopoly.
Apple already have one group of loyalists who won't leave them and continue to drag the company into the 21st century, those who cannot or will not leave it out of some misguided company loyalty in the belief that "the company cares". Apple are merely using this as an accessory to that situation, to increase userbase with a group who don't have the ability to move on when Apple are the only ones providing the service.
Same here. I'd like to know what checks & balances there are in place to ensure there are no government 'back doors' into software.
Is this the first step towards a governmental attempt to control F/OSS software? Will we soon only be able to get our software from government approved repositories?
I don't see an Apple media centre anywhere that can play video AND audio in WMP format.
Sorry, try again. Not funny.
OK so they get fined and told how to distribute...
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OK so they get fined and told how to distribute windows.
Who thinks this will REALLY change anything? That MS will go a little bit more restricted in how media stuff is installed from a start, but they'll keep on doing the same old crap in every other part of their dealings with the EU
Linux has flaws, Windows has flaws. I'd say both about equal if you keep up with Security news.
MS has the market share and on desktops likely to be infected it's around 100:1, therefore it's worth a trojan writer's time to infect Windows, as it can do a job for them and earn them $$/kudos from peers/personal fun at watching the media.
Anyone with a little nous could write a Linux trojan right now, but I doubt the 10 machines it'd infect before coming across windows machines that it -cannot- infect would be a concern to anyone.
Another one is Liebermann Inc.. Top notch desktops and notebooks with the style and refinement slashdotters always comment that Apple has, without the problem of, oh, incompatibility with software people want to run, such as high end games.
Personally I don't know why this wasn't thought of first before all those silly ideas like just blowing something up
A nice large tractor beam from a high orbiting satellite to repel or attract any asteroid or other thing that's going to hit the planet, and problem solved.
I haven't used google ever since my orkut experience where i read through the obscene terms and conditions. Only one way to get this changed and thats to VOTE and VOTE WITH YOUR FEET
Australia has no specific laws relating to software piracy. hence "software piracy" has no meaning under australian laws and it cannot be said that software piracy is not legal in australia
If people used these 4 simple techniques, while it wouldn't be perfect, it would by my thoughts drop the number of infected machines down by three quarters, which will DRAMATICALLY reduce the efficiency and productivity of running a spamming business, and spammers won't have any choice but to leave you alone.
Cutting people off is just going to get them to take infected machines somewhere else.
I get a lot of crap from people who say I play to much video games. These same people then turn around and sit their ass on the couch the same ammount of time and watch TV. I think it's better for you to be playing video games then watching TV, at least you're participating in something.
Absolutely. There's a whole world of closer and closer interaction. You just don't get interaction with the passive television watching or book reading. I find a good game to be on the same level as a conversation with a friend, where at least I'm creating something, the experience I'm having.
Passive entertainment is mush, and forces your mind into the mold of the creators of that entertainment. Gaming puts you on an equal footing with someone else, the designer - or even better, the people you play a network game against.
I had the chance to play with a Lindows machine in the last month, and it left me impressed with the simplicity, but concerned about the mentality it's going to help keep breeding.
While not all windows users are the "luser" type, there's a massive amount of Joe Average users who can't troubleshoot their way out of a paper bag. Linux has continued to grow for more than a decade now, and has been doing well without these windows style distributions, and leaving behind a group of users with a wealth of knowledge that leaves any Joe Average in the dust.
What I'm concerned about is... with an OS like Windows, why would anyone need to learn to troubleshoot? They can jump from one candy handholding OS to another without going through any kind of knowledge gathering to do so. It's keeping up a culture of ignorance among computer users. That's a legacy I think will come back and bite us on the butt.
I don't like this any more than anyone else, but the inclusion in the slashdot short of "Death to fair use" is very misleading. Nothing can affect australia's copyright "Fair use" provisions because australia never HAD copyright "fair use" provisions.
To make any part of a copy of a copyright, australians ALWAYS needed explicit permission from the copyright holder to do so. Things were never any different.
This would be like an article related to the US with a writeup that "OMG this new law means we now no longer can take our children out the back and shoot them". You never could... legally.
Apple tried to control Linux? Good lord... be thankful they never pulled that off. I can see Apple up there in place of SCO already, and with loads more money and arrogance
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But this sounds a bit selfish of Apple.
I don't see Apple doing this out of the goodness of their hearts, to honestly try "improving the world" or making it easier for those less physically able.
What will happen in the end is if Apple release this as an accessory with OSX, then people who absolutely require it for computer use will be locked in to one brand, one vendor.
And that is a monopoly.
Apple already have one group of loyalists who won't leave them and continue to drag the company into the 21st century, those who cannot or will not leave it out of some misguided company loyalty in the belief that "the company cares". Apple are merely using this as an accessory to that situation, to increase userbase with a group who don't have the ability to move on when Apple are the only ones providing the service.
heh. see if you still think the same erroneous way when AmigaOS4 is released later this month.
At least one company thinks it's worthwhile enough to shell out some pretty big $$$ for. Headed for big things...
3 cheers for ogg vorbis support!.
I didn't think I'd see it happen. THIS is a service I'll support simply due to that feature alone.
After the clamouring for ogg support that all other stores outright reject, I can see big things for these guys
The problem there is they have a limit of 10 TiVOs and will not transfer to any more after that repair. Not sure thats any good
Same here. I'd like to know what checks & balances there are in place to ensure there are no government 'back doors' into software.
Is this the first step towards a governmental attempt to control F/OSS software? Will we soon only be able to get our software from government approved repositories?
I don't like the smell of it
LOL. never seen a mac boot in under 10 seconds. more like a minute and a half. slooooooow
try again!
I don't see an Apple media centre anywhere that can play video AND audio in WMP format.
Sorry, try again. Not funny.
OK so they get fined and told how to distribute windows.
Who thinks this will REALLY change anything? That MS will go a little bit more restricted in how media stuff is installed from a start, but they'll keep on doing the same old crap in every other part of their dealings with the EU
No, it settles nothing.
Linux has flaws, Windows has flaws. I'd say both about equal if you keep up with Security news.
MS has the market share and on desktops likely to be infected it's around 100:1, therefore it's worth a trojan writer's time to infect Windows, as it can do a job for them and earn them $$/kudos from peers/personal fun at watching the media.
Anyone with a little nous could write a Linux trojan right now, but I doubt the 10 machines it'd infect before coming across windows machines that it -cannot- infect would be a concern to anyone.
Another one is Liebermann Inc.. Top notch desktops and notebooks with the style and refinement slashdotters always comment that Apple has, without the problem of, oh, incompatibility with software people want to run, such as high end games.
...but every deployment of linux in a large scale like this makes me smile and go "up yours SCO. one more victim to sue to drain your warchest"
So I'm petty. sue me. There's lots like me
gravitational tractor beams.
Personally I don't know why this wasn't thought of first before all those silly ideas like just blowing something up
A nice large tractor beam from a high orbiting satellite to repel or attract any asteroid or other thing that's going to hit the planet, and problem solved.
Of course, there's the technical side...
The new micro Amiga One is in mini-itx format too and might be a better choice
I want to know what happened to Quoaor or whatever the hell it's name is. wasn't it planet 10 last year?
Well, people have "voted with their feet" regarding the Amiga... Care to comment on that?
Sure. Only that they're really going to regret it with the release of AmigaOS4, within the next month or two.
Their loss
I haven't used google ever since my orkut experience where i read through the obscene terms and conditions. Only one way to get this changed and thats to VOTE and VOTE WITH YOUR FEET
But: Software piracy is not legal in Australia.
Australia has no specific laws relating to software piracy. hence "software piracy" has no meaning under australian laws and it cannot be said that software piracy is not legal in australia
Personally my disdain for this idea comes from one thing: mistrust of anything military.
Would YOU trust the military to have anything to do with making a wide working network like the internet?. Nuh-huh, mark me out of this one thanks
wtf? How is this going to benefit the people who're running the machines?
Try sending out an ISP bulletin with the simple tips on how to avoid getting exploited in the first place. It's dead simple.
1. install patches regularly
2. virus scan
3. don't open attachments
4. don't install spyware.
If people used these 4 simple techniques, while it wouldn't be perfect, it would by my thoughts drop the number of infected machines down by three quarters, which will DRAMATICALLY reduce the efficiency and productivity of running a spamming business, and spammers won't have any choice but to leave you alone.
Cutting people off is just going to get them to take infected machines somewhere else.
I get a lot of crap from people who say I play to much video games. These same people then turn around and sit their ass on the couch the same ammount of time and watch TV. I think it's better for you to be playing video games then watching TV, at least you're participating in something.
Absolutely. There's a whole world of closer and closer interaction. You just don't get interaction with the passive television watching or book reading. I find a good game to be on the same level as a conversation with a friend, where at least I'm creating something, the experience I'm having.
Passive entertainment is mush, and forces your mind into the mold of the creators of that entertainment. Gaming puts you on an equal footing with someone else, the designer - or even better, the people you play a network game against.
I had the chance to play with a Lindows machine in the last month, and it left me impressed with the simplicity, but concerned about the mentality it's going to help keep breeding.
While not all windows users are the "luser" type, there's a massive amount of Joe Average users who can't troubleshoot their way out of a paper bag. Linux has continued to grow for more than a decade now, and has been doing well without these windows style distributions, and leaving behind a group of users with a wealth of knowledge that leaves any Joe Average in the dust.
What I'm concerned about is... with an OS like Windows, why would anyone need to learn to troubleshoot? They can jump from one candy handholding OS to another without going through any kind of knowledge gathering to do so. It's keeping up a culture of ignorance among computer users. That's a legacy I think will come back and bite us on the butt.
I don't. their ridiculous fees, even after internet access was well entrenched just kept dragging things down until nobody used it.
I'm not sorry to see FidoNet gone
I don't like this any more than anyone else, but the inclusion in the slashdot short of "Death to fair use" is very misleading. Nothing can affect australia's copyright "Fair use" provisions because australia never HAD copyright "fair use" provisions.
To make any part of a copy of a copyright, australians ALWAYS needed explicit permission from the copyright holder to do so. Things were never any different.
This would be like an article related to the US with a writeup that "OMG this new law means we now no longer can take our children out the back and shoot them". You never could... legally.
a lithium-metal-polymer (LMP) battery hey. Isn't that the same one in Apple's iPod?
An 18 month lasting car! Wonder how popular that'll be heheh
Apple tried to control Linux? Good lord... be thankful they never pulled that off. I can see Apple up there in place of SCO already, and with loads more money and arrogance