Gotcha, so I need to write a graduate-level thesis on comparative middle-eastern religions in order to use a quick example?
No, I'm not trying to be priggish. Chances are you may even be more versed on the historical details of the issues than I am. You write articulately, so I know you're educated to some degree. However, linking muslims with the term 'turban' is such a hashed out stereotype - it was just a rather low-brow comment and I had to laugh.
The black example is particularly bad because there are many racists who hate blacks and will take any chance to hurt them, and because the skin color isn't the correlating factor, it's usually poverty which correlates to violent crime. If the poor are largely black in your town this may mean that blacks (in situations likely to involve violent crime) would attract more attention.
No, the black example is very appropriate to the current situation, because it boils down to stereotypes and what the media is telling people to think. There are also many non-Muslim Americans who hold many strong stereotypes against Islam because of one widely obscure line out of the Koran and media potrayal of the followers of the religion. Remember, we have to make the distinction between an extremist and a follower. Osama Bin Laden is an extremist who acts in the name of Allah (in his own words) while Timothy McVayan - another terrorist, mind you, acts in the name of Jesus Christ (in his own words).
Nice rant about Israel too, though you must be a bit obsessed to try to bring it into unrelated conversations.
Okay, so Israel's policy towards Palistine is unrelated to the issue of Islam being widely connected with terrorism? Have you ever watched TLC's connections? If you have, I'm sure you had difficult time following the historical narrative. The military of Israel is in some parts a terrorist organization, just as is Hamas. I see both sides (on a military level) as dogs engaging in gross violations of the natural sphere of human rights. Yes, Sharon is an evil man, just as are the Hamas military leaders. Most people are afraid to look on both sides of an issue. It outright baffles me!
being Islamic is strongly correlated with suicide attacks on civilians.
I didn't realize you were an expert on Islamic affairs. Have you cared to ever research the approximate percentage of Islamic population that engages in suicide bombing? Now, I don't wish to assign any virtue to suicide bombing - the act is horrid and detestable as is any any act that involves willfully taking another human life - but lets look at the picture from both sides. Is firing a missile into a vehicle on a crowded street (knowing there is a high possibility that innocent people will be killed maimed) not an act of terrorism. According to our media's rhetoric, these are acts of 'security.' This is the same as calling 'cow flesh' 'meat.' We are easily misled be euphisms used by our leaders and the sycophant media.
There's a limited ammount of time available, priorities have to be made. Do you suggest that we ignore racial or religious indicators when screening people?
You know, I've being watching the evening news lately and noticed a large percentage of the crime stories involve people of African decent. Maybe our police should target suspicious African Americans because of some statistic. Okay, seriously, in answer to your question: absolutely no! This would be a violation of something I consider quite sacred: civil liberties and the sphere of human rights. I would prefer not to live in a police. What you do not realize is that we are repeating past mistakes. 20 years from now, the Patriot Act will be a dark stain on American History - it already is for those of us who are awake.
The important thing to remember is that these indicators are not absolute.
Exactly!! So what the hell is your argument?
There are many more innocent people wearing Turbans than terrorists.
LOL!! I don't even think you've thoroughly studied you stereotypes!! I guess all people of the Islamic faith wear turbans... Oh boy! Why do I even bother.
By the tone of this post, I'd day say you're an "US vz. THEM" guy. I almost hope you're trolling, but if not:
It's not wise to put strong encryption capabilities in the hands of any Islamic nation.
Ok... (awkward silence ensues). Let's also be sure not to trust countries who pass laws that allow the government to detain individuals for no reason based on their ethnicity and general paranoia. Let's also take cryptography away from those countries whose leader's mislead the general public about WMD, to partake in an inhumane war. Oh yeah, don't forget those countries who are afraid of an international tribunal, because all of its military officials have broken the Geneva Accords 10x over...
Come on!! Why is it even worth wathcing the ads now the political (pressure inspired) censorship has come into play (movon.org bushin30seconds ad)?? Although I wasn't very pleased with bushin30seconds finalist - with child laborers paying off the national defecit. This was way to exaggerated. The Nazi analogy seemed way more inline and didn't bend the truth about our fuhrer!
I know... I know. It's hard! They have support groups for that kind of thing you know.;)
--sloptaco
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No such ideas. But I did have a great idea as a counter attack to all the patents being claimed by large coorporates. I say we form a comittee:
IOSBCFCSAPOJAEICT
Read:
"International Open-Source Based Committee for claiming silly-ass patents on just about everything including Computing Technologies"
The idea would be to have patent experts and techinical gurus work on developing patents to belong the open source community and apply to every industry we can imagine.
I have a working concept for patent. "Stabilizing grounded objects using natural forces of gravity." Hey, some guy got a patent for "swinging sideways" - Links anybody???
--sloppy
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Ummm... I don't think that was the argument. Nothing is inherently "wrong" with ctrl-C Ctrl-v. Think of the two processes and compare hand movements:
X:
[Mouse] Left-Click and select Text.
[Mouse] Left-Click destination.
[Mouse] Middle-Button paste.
Doze:
[Mouse] Left-click and select text.
[Keyboard] CTRL-C
[Mouse] Left-click destination.
[Keyboard] CTRL-V
Now, from an objective standpoint (or as ergonomist analyzing the 2 processes) - pretending you are not used to one method over the other - which is better?
You can't accept statements made by people if there are subtle and common mistakes which reveal nothing of a person's true intellect (not even considering the fact they may not be native speaker of English).
Besides, dude, this is/. if you haven't noticed. We're not writing doctoral theses here - we're chewing the fat.
In sum - you're a prig. Your opinion is the most irrelevant, I'd say.
Yes, I'm not advocating using a Asianix or whatever the Hell they call it. My experience has been that most commercial Linux distros suck ass! The only distros I have been satisified with so far are Debian and Gentoo. Nonetheless, I understand their marketing strategy and the potential for such a company to make money. The FUD factor: The dummies in charge of a business like things to be self-installing - fully featured and ready to go right of the box - and if their sys admins are minimal budget additions to the staff (and therefore probably dummies also) - I guess I can't blame them. From that perspective, saying things like "Just edit the USE environmental variable/etc/make.conf" is a shit-in-the-panser for most Business Managers.
Romaji in the general sense in not only Japanese written phonetically with the Roman alphabet. Deconstructing the word we have Roma (Roman) and ji (character). The meaning is quite obvious. Yes, Korean uses its own unique alphabet (as I stated: hangul), and I also stated the use of Chinese characters (hanzi) is not very common. So what are you trying to argue, here, besides a plea for your misinterpretation of the word romaji?
I am almost sure that up until cirac 1960 +-10 years (I'm no specialist in the history of the Korean language), Hanzi was used in Korean newspapers as commonly as kanji is in Japanese newspapers today. (By the way, if you look at any mainstream Korean newspaper - you'll notice some Chinese chacters, mostly in parentheses next to a person's name.) Also, once when I was lost in Seoul, I was able to communcate with some older folks using hanzi written on a memo I was carrying in a successful attempt to find my way to the nearest subway station.
Thus, the need for Chinese language support for common computing systems in Korea - for historical and geographic/demographic purposes - is still relatively strong.
Sorry, I've made you a friend to try to make up for things. I was engaging in trollism/priggism as an experiment. Also, accounting for the fact I work in an open office (with anal mgtmt.) I have to be discrete with/. habit and didn't realize you weren't the guy getting irate. Nonetheless, the "have a beer" line still applies. Have a beer!;)
Jesus Christ man! I was just calmly stating that you're ignorant. I guess I should have typed slower and stated it more precisely:
You're ignorant about Japanese and Chinese text support.
Perhaps you can argue that you aren't now, but certainly not at the time of your post. You need to tone down, man. Remember ignorant != stupid/unintelligent. Besdides, you were implictly posing the question: "Am I ignorant about this subject." And I simply answered in the affirmative: "Yes, you are." What is there to be so upset about? Relax, have a beer man.
- Japan has two character systems
Errr!!
Actually Japanese uses 4 character systems:
* Kanji (Chinese Characters)
* Hiragana
* Katakana
* Romaji (Roman alphabet)
Korean also uses Chinese characters to some extent (historically, Korean was similar to Japanese using Hangul alongside Hanzi - but now they primarily use Hangul. Hanzi is still used often for names, etc.)
Yes, you are very ignorant. I've set up Chinese and Japanese input support on my gentoo box, and while it wasn't that hard, I wouldn't call it trivial. Besides, I haven't even gone to the next step: full localization. Imaging replacing every (*every*) software component (besides simple unix utilities) on your Linux system with cjk-compliant version. Because of the complex character sets in Japanese and Chinese (we're taking thousands of characters 1,988+ for Japanese and 6,000+ for Chinese, plus most historical and obscure characters, and not only to mention subtle and sometimes large differences in character sets for Taiwan, Hong Kong, Mainland, etc.) text support is not as trivial as it is with systems in English et al. If I wanted a fully localized Chinese or Japanese Linux box, I would definitely considering going with an Japanese or Chinese only distro. Merging the 2 is a great idea, since a large portion of the characters are common.
I think the biggest problem is that we are addicted to music owned by the RIAA. We are the real losers being the ones funding this insanity with our cool Jimi Hendrix posters and Nirvana CDs. The best move towards the future is to begin focusing freely (and legally so) distributed music by artists who are fed up with this bullshit. The best counter-attack is for the masses to turn against industry and begin supporting independent labels - and for independent labels to work out a deal with the public (i.e. to make music more affordable for the masses).
Ironically, marketing is the best tactic. Finding an effective venue (well of course the internet) might be tricky. But I think the key is for people to stop listening to and paying for shitty ass music;)
What a lot of people don't get is the apparent contrast between the division and the union. It's all about polarity of interests. Some people enjoy vinegar in the potatoes.
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Gotcha, so I need to write a graduate-level thesis on comparative middle-eastern religions in order to use a quick example?
No, I'm not trying to be priggish. Chances are you may even be more versed on the historical details of the issues than I am. You write articulately, so I know you're educated to some degree. However, linking muslims with the term 'turban' is such a hashed out stereotype - it was just a rather low-brow comment and I had to laugh.
The black example is particularly bad because there are many racists who hate blacks and will take any chance to hurt them, and because the skin color isn't the correlating factor, it's usually poverty which correlates to violent crime. If the poor are largely black in your town this may mean that blacks (in situations likely to involve violent crime) would attract more attention.
No, the black example is very appropriate to the current situation, because it boils down to stereotypes and what the media is telling people to think. There are also many non-Muslim Americans who hold many strong stereotypes against Islam because of one widely obscure line out of the Koran and media potrayal of the followers of the religion. Remember, we have to make the distinction between an extremist and a follower. Osama Bin Laden is an extremist who acts in the name of Allah (in his own words) while Timothy McVayan - another terrorist, mind you, acts in the name of Jesus Christ (in his own words).
Nice rant about Israel too, though you must be a bit obsessed to try to bring it into unrelated conversations.
Okay, so Israel's policy towards Palistine is unrelated to the issue of Islam being widely connected with terrorism? Have you ever watched TLC's connections? If you have, I'm sure you had difficult time following the historical narrative. The military of Israel is in some parts a terrorist organization, just as is Hamas. I see both sides (on a military level) as dogs engaging in gross violations of the natural sphere of human rights. Yes, Sharon is an evil man, just as are the Hamas military leaders. Most people are afraid to look on both sides of an issue. It outright baffles me!
being Islamic is strongly correlated with suicide attacks on civilians.
I didn't realize you were an expert on Islamic affairs. Have you cared to ever research the approximate percentage of Islamic population that engages in suicide bombing? Now, I don't wish to assign any virtue to suicide bombing - the act is horrid and detestable as is any any act that involves willfully taking another human life - but lets look at the picture from both sides. Is firing a missile into a vehicle on a crowded street (knowing there is a high possibility that innocent people will be killed maimed) not an act of terrorism. According to our media's rhetoric, these are acts of 'security.' This is the same as calling 'cow flesh' 'meat.' We are easily misled be euphisms used by our leaders and the sycophant media.
There's a limited ammount of time available, priorities have to be made. Do you suggest that we ignore racial or religious indicators when screening people?
You know, I've being watching the evening news lately and noticed a large percentage of the crime stories involve people of African decent. Maybe our police should target suspicious African Americans because of some statistic. Okay, seriously, in answer to your question: absolutely no! This would be a violation of something I consider quite sacred: civil liberties and the sphere of human rights. I would prefer not to live in a police. What you do not realize is that we are repeating past mistakes. 20 years from now, the Patriot Act will be a dark stain on American History - it already is for those of us who are awake.
The important thing to remember is that these indicators are not absolute.
Exactly!! So what the hell is your argument?
There are many more innocent people wearing Turbans than terrorists.
LOL!! I don't even think you've thoroughly studied you stereotypes!! I guess all people of the Islamic faith wear turbans... Oh boy! Why do I even bother.
By the tone of this post, I'd day say you're an "US vz. THEM" guy. I almost hope you're trolling, but if not:
It's not wise to put strong encryption capabilities in the hands of any Islamic nation.
Ok ... (awkward silence ensues). Let's also be sure not to trust countries who pass laws that allow the government to detain individuals for no reason based on their ethnicity and general paranoia. Let's also take cryptography away from those countries whose leader's mislead the general public about WMD, to partake in an inhumane war. Oh yeah, don't forget those countries who are afraid of an international tribunal, because all of its military officials have broken the Geneva Accords 10x over...
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/slee per/
Come on!! Why is it even worth wathcing the ads now the political (pressure inspired) censorship has come into play (movon.org bushin30seconds ad)?? Although I wasn't very pleased with bushin30seconds finalist - with child laborers paying off the national defecit. This was way to exaggerated. The Nazi analogy seemed way more inline and didn't bend the truth about our fuhrer!
--sloppy
ummm... we already have google linux:
http://www.google.com/linux
--sloppy
No Groucho was drinking with Cantor and stole it from him!!
--sloppy
--sloptaco
No such ideas. But I did have a great idea as a counter attack to all the patents being claimed by large coorporates. I say we form a comittee: IOSBCFCSAPOJAEICT
Read:
"International Open-Source Based Committee for claiming silly-ass patents on just about everything including Computing Technologies"
The idea would be to have patent experts and techinical gurus work on developing patents to belong the open source community and apply to every industry we can imagine.
I have a working concept for patent. "Stabilizing grounded objects using natural forces of gravity." Hey, some guy got a patent for "swinging sideways" - Links anybody???
--sloppyUmmm... I don't think that was the argument. Nothing is inherently "wrong" with ctrl-C Ctrl-v. Think of the two processes and compare hand movements:
X:
Doze:
Now, from an objective standpoint (or as ergonomist analyzing the 2 processes) - pretending you are not used to one method over the other - which is better?
--sloppyOh, by the way. A question. What exactly does "subtil" mean? Or did you mean to type "subtle" by chance?
-sloppy
You can't accept statements made by people if there are subtle and common mistakes which reveal nothing of a person's true intellect (not even considering the fact they may not be native speaker of English).
/. if you haven't noticed. We're not writing doctoral theses here - we're chewing the fat.
Besides, dude, this is
In sum - you're a prig. Your opinion is the most irrelevant, I'd say.
-sloppy
I'm saying how many different character systems can be mixed and matched in potentially intelligible written sentence of Japanese.
Romaji in the general sense in not only Japanese written phonetically with the Roman alphabet. Deconstructing the word we have Roma (Roman) and ji (character). The meaning is quite obvious. Yes, Korean uses its own unique alphabet (as I stated: hangul), and I also stated the use of Chinese characters (hanzi) is not very common. So what are you trying to argue, here, besides a plea for your misinterpretation of the word romaji?
I am almost sure that up until cirac 1960 +-10 years (I'm no specialist in the history of the Korean language), Hanzi was used in Korean newspapers as commonly as kanji is in Japanese newspapers today. (By the way, if you look at any mainstream Korean newspaper - you'll notice some Chinese chacters, mostly in parentheses next to a person's name.) Also, once when I was lost in Seoul, I was able to communcate with some older folks using hanzi written on a memo I was carrying in a successful attempt to find my way to the nearest subway station.
Thus, the need for Chinese language support for common computing systems in Korea - for historical and geographic/demographic purposes - is still relatively strong.
And I didn't mess with you Karma-Bonus modifier by the way. Hey, I've invented a new emoticon - the retarted wink:
;(
Sorry, I've made you a friend to try to make up for things. I was engaging in trollism/priggism as an experiment. Also, accounting for the fact I work in an open office (with anal mgtmt.) I have to be discrete with /. habit and didn't realize you weren't the guy getting irate. Nonetheless, the "have a beer" line still applies. Have a beer! ;)
Jesus Christ man! I was just calmly stating that you're ignorant. I guess I should have typed slower and stated it more precisely:
You're ignorant about Japanese and Chinese text support.
Perhaps you can argue that you aren't now, but certainly not at the time of your post. You need to tone down, man. Remember ignorant != stupid/unintelligent. Besdides, you were implictly posing the question: "Am I ignorant about this subject." And I simply answered in the affirmative: "Yes, you are." What is there to be so upset about? Relax, have a beer man.
- Japan has two character systems Errr!!
Actually Japanese uses 4 character systems:
* Kanji (Chinese Characters)
* Hiragana
* Katakana
* Romaji (Roman alphabet)
Korean also uses Chinese characters to some extent (historically, Korean was similar to Japanese using Hangul alongside Hanzi - but now they primarily use Hangul. Hanzi is still used often for names, etc.)
-sloppy
Why don't you just use UTF like everyone else???
Ummm... I guess you mean Western ISO like everyone else.
-sloppy
Yes, you are very ignorant. I've set up Chinese and Japanese input support on my gentoo box, and while it wasn't that hard, I wouldn't call it trivial. Besides, I haven't even gone to the next step: full localization. Imaging replacing every (*every*) software component (besides simple unix utilities) on your Linux system with cjk-compliant version. Because of the complex character sets in Japanese and Chinese (we're taking thousands of characters 1,988+ for Japanese and 6,000+ for Chinese, plus most historical and obscure characters, and not only to mention subtle and sometimes large differences in character sets for Taiwan, Hong Kong, Mainland, etc.) text support is not as trivial as it is with systems in English et al. If I wanted a fully localized Chinese or Japanese Linux box, I would definitely considering going with an Japanese or Chinese only distro. Merging the 2 is a great idea, since a large portion of the characters are common.
-sloppy
I think the biggest problem is that we are addicted to music owned by the RIAA. We are the real losers being the ones funding this insanity with our cool Jimi Hendrix posters and Nirvana CDs. The best move towards the future is to begin focusing freely (and legally so) distributed music by artists who are fed up with this bullshit. The best counter-attack is for the masses to turn against industry and begin supporting independent labels - and for independent labels to work out a deal with the public (i.e. to make music more affordable for the masses).
;)
Ironically, marketing is the best tactic. Finding an effective venue (well of course the internet) might be tricky. But I think the key is for people to stop listening to and paying for shitty ass music
http://www.iuma.com/ -sloppy
or better yet: http://www.iuma.com/
-sloppy
I have to say they really messed up with Kermit's Swamp. I'm still trying to regain my nostalgia for the Muppets.
Sorry, being a rock-solid engineer I of course can't spell worth a shit.
What a lot of people don't get is the apparent contrast between the division and the union. It's all about polarity of interests. Some people enjoy vinegar in the potatoes.
Geez...