Didn't see your comment, Anonymous Coward, until recently. You were under my threshhold. Before you spout, check some facts.
Here's an enlightening timeline of events and documents relating to Palestine and Zionism over the past century. It has shown a bit of the historical validity of a Jewish homeland. However, it is clear that the intentions of these early planners was to create a place for Jews and other downtrodden people in Palestine, but not for the Jewish homeland to become Palestine. In post-British colonial Palestine, it seems the Jews and Arabs had much more in common: independence from the major world powers at the time of WWI (Britain, Turkey, France).
You don't get it at all. These aren't drug dealers. The people who perpetrated this are dead. And there are others prepared to die. Killing someone who is already willing to die for their cause is called martyrdom.
You take the line that we need to teach them a lesson so they learn not to fuck with us. Hitting them with missiles and long range artillery will not teach, it will strengthen their resolve. I don't think you understand what you propose: all out war versus fanatics. You can hammer them into holes in the ground. Their grandchildren will kill your grandchildren.
You are clearly not offering a solution, just lashing out blindly.
I've said the Florida thing as a joke too. When you're not joking, you're not getting it. Israel's only value to the U.S. is strategic. There are much better pieces of land being used as landfill in America. However, it's been a political hotbed for a couple thousand years. The jews aren't leaving. The Palestinians aren't leaving. It's either mass mutual illumination of their peoples that their survival hinges on their ability to make peace. Either that or it's extinction of one of those peoples. War has not answered their questions throughout the millenia. The near future does not look rosy. Crimson is more the shade.
Thanks for bringing up Lem. He is one of my faborite science fiction authors. I have plugged his work and ideas on Slashdot several times. (His Master's Voice, re: SETI online)
I, too, would like to confess. I have not bought one Metallica cd since I started using Napster. I have bought Agents of Oblivion, Zen Guerrilla (both who I would otherwise not have known about), several jazz and blues cds-- all because I sampled them first on Napster, well, Lopster, actually. I didn't buy any new Stones or Beatles or many cds from rich, dead people.
Mandrake is a friendly end-user oriented distribution. It makes sense that they would look to their pleased customers for support. I'll invest-- I've installed 8.0 on both home and work computers and am very happy. Good for novices like myself. Of course, the v.0.02 software without the configure files are tricky to install, but I'll figure out how to get the lib and include paths right one of these days.
Here is one Windows user who has switched to the Linux desktop for ease of use. After my last Windows box kept biting it in a big way, I decided I'm getting sick of formatting and reinstalling Windows every six months to a year. What happens? The registry gets jacked from installing and reinstalling programs-- maybe Windows ME is more stable, but I decided that I didn't need to upgrade just to get a shadow under my cursor. Then there's the constant fear of e-mail attachments and ActiveX bombing me or following me around the web because someone chose to install software from some website based on the little friendly prompt that my OS gives me-- should be ok, right? What were they thinking when they enabled that? If I want a plugin I'll install it myself thank you.
It borders on elitism these comments that Linux is not accessible to the average user. I've done desktop support-- I've shown people how to use a mouse. I've seen these people eventually learn the Microsoft way after saying it was too hard. Fact is, they would learn the KDE or Gnome way just as easily, Eazel or no. Perhaps the learning curve would be slightly longer, but teach them they can customize just about everything and they might get a little more excited about their computer.
So how has the Linux desktop enriched my life as a reformed windows user?
installation of flash components into Mozilla plug-ins was very easy, defeating the excuse that I couldn't enjoy all the freaky, bandwidth pig websites.
most of the software I need is installed when I installed my OS-- how long would this have taken with my fresh install of Windows? all day?
The clipboard tool in KDE has a memory, when I hi-lite a URL, it pops up and asks me if I want to open it with Konqueror, Mozilla or Netscape-- I've since added other programs to this list.
Gimp is every bit as easy to use as photoshop, has a huge amount of filters and doesn't crash. Um, it's free. FREE!!!!! Did you hear me, Linux Planet dorkwad, I said free! I don't think I'll get over this one.
i've got 4 desktops now instead of one crowded desktop. I have e-mail, web browser on one. Another has a stealth copy of Maelstrom, that I play in between tasks at work. Another has a couple terminals open where I struggle with the command line after spending many GUI-addled years. Another for misc. crap. How come this feature is not crowed over more?
I can go to freshmeat and browse like mad-- it's all available and the caretakers and developers of the software give you advice if you have trouble with it. Sourceforge is just amazing. Quite a resource.
Cut and paste is becoming more universal.
The command line in Unix kicks the shit out of the DOS shell.
As a phone support wonk, I'm not l33t hax0r, and just a linux newbie (1 year), but I got a legacy database app that we support that uses Paradox for DOS to run under dosemu. That really blew me away-- we have a tough time getting this thing to run on NT/2000.
Finally, with a Linux desktop, I feel like it's really a reflection of how I work, play and interact with this device. Microsoft tries to make you feel like you are owning your computer by putting "My" before everything. But the fact is, you are doing everything their way.
So I'm offended by this shit piece of editorial showing up as a newstory on slashdot. Show a little integrity before causing a FUD rampage. Who the hell are these Linux Planet people anyways-- I went to their contact page and it said "My Desktop" --does that scream windows or what? I think their domain should stripped from them so they can go from Linux Planet to some Microsoft slum.
A friend of mine is in the carpenters' union and swears by it. It takes care of him if he gets injured, goes after employers who jake him on pay and often takes care of red tape that would otherwise hassle him. Also, consider that a union will also help you to find a new job if you get canned.
Most of all, there are courses down at the union hall so that he can learn new skills without having to fork over money for tech school or college. For instance, as a carpenter, he can become a certified welder through his union and make himself more valuable on the job. Imagine if a hacker could go down to the hall and bone up on network administation and vice versa.
After work, you could head down to the IT Unionhall and play a few games of chess and read the notice boards... Even geeks need a little camaraderie with their peers. But I guess that what IRC and the Usenet is all about. Huh, I guess unionhall would probably be an IP address...
I thought hey, now here's an idea whose time has come: Magnetic Patent Leather Suits. Shiny patent leather on the outside and magnetic strips on the inside- kind of like sealing yourself into a big leather ziplock, but easier to get at the goods inside. I hope Trinity will be wearing one of these in Matrix IV. Then, I realized, you idiot, read the fucking story before you post!
That's what I was wondering, too, then I bought my kneetop Doesheepa MIB3000. First I inflated the keyboard (wondering: how many times am I going to waste my breath on this? then, I found a small compressor available for just this purpose on Adiposebrain!) and hooked up the tiny display, which is about the size and shape of a 12-sided die. Imagine my surprise when it projected my Bjornix Jobbit desktop on a light mist of water vapor and negative ions. Hopefully, there will be kernel support for the aromatherapy module soon.
Please moderate the parent post of this post down after moderating its parent up, then please moderate this comment so far down that even the hot grits guys can't see it, then format c: and step into an empty elevator shaft.
The parent of this post is a bit OT, but it is one of the most succinct explanations of why information economy is a farce. It is obvious that our growth-based economics system is an out-moded model. Sure, it kicked ass on the command economy state socialist machine, but is it tuned to the needs of a people who mainly produce intangibles? too bad we can't just sit down and draw up the plans for a new economy like racers would decide on a new car for the team.
Save yourself some time and just go to Hooters
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According to his plans, a pickup truck will be waiting to drive him to a group of bleachers where fans and 12 Hooters bar girls will pour champagne all over him.
Well, he doesn't even know if the FAA will let him do it, but he certainly knows what he wants after he succeeds. Sheesh. Some people will do anything for a little female attention. I guess if he can't do it, he could always just rent the Hooters girls and show them his rocket. Hooters, sheesh.
Pardon me for not bending down and worshipping your brain. I am one of those who was not coding in the crib, spilling coffee all over my booties. Although I do not use tech support, I often require the wisdom of others. For that, I consult the usenet community, hit Google, or rummage through a workmate's brain. The animal books come in handy. And I am not above helping someone with their Excel question: "No, no, you're not stupid-- it just takes a little experience..." Then, I slide in a little dig on Microsoft.
I helped a friend install his @home DSL service. I found the materials he was sent to be very uninformative. However, tech support was fast and knowledgable. Maybe we got lucky...
Re:The aliens have left the phones off the hook
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Dogs flew Spaceships!
The Aztecs invented the vacation!
Our forefathers took drugs!
Men and women are the same sex!
Your brain is not the boss!
Yes, Everything You Know Is Wrong!
-Firesign Theater, "Everything You Know Is Wrong!"
What you say here is so true-- shortages in the world-- food, fuel, medecine, water, information-- are politically organized. Access to resources, particularly those that are vital to life have been used to manipulate the populace time and again by just about every political unit out there. Control of the flow of resources is the outward sign of some group flexing their political muscle. It is an effective tool to uproot populace and move them to new area, destroying their identity in the process. Buckminister Fuller claimed that we have the technology to provide for all the world to live in comfort. Why don't we utilize it? Because exercise of power is the most hoarded resource of all. But that's not why SETI is a futile waste of time. SETI is futile because we are deliberately ignorant beings. Hell, my president can't even communicate with me. If I can't figure out what he has to say, how can I communicate with someone who probably has a completely different sense array? Even if searching for ETs is futile, the process is probably good for us. As the guy who sent himself up 16,000 feet in a lawnchair with 42 weather balloons said, "A man can't just sit around."
Don't stop with just 2 sets of odds! As if that's all there were... How about this: the alien race is so different from us that it does not consider the electromagnetic spectrum worth messing with. Perhaps their sense of time is so different that that we live and die in between their bites of breakfast. Perhaps they communicate with chemicals and send up a different shroud in their atmosphere to announce the daily news. Our search is limited by the imagination that we have to put toward the task. Let's give our aliens the benefit of truly being alien, as in "strange to us." We don't do ourselves any favors by thinking they will be anything like us. As humans, we suffer the disadvantage of always thinking like humans. Most of our aliens in our fiction have a had convenient arrangement that somehow allowed us to communicate. Either that or they just try to destroy us. If I were an alien, I would avoid this planet like the plague. And keep checking that electro-magnetic dampener that surrounds this solar system. Heh. "maybe they'll give up, the silly asses..."
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I've heard 386 33Mhz will do the job.
HD is not needed. LFP fits on a floppy.
Didn't see your comment, Anonymous Coward, until recently. You were under my threshhold. Before you spout, check some facts.
Here's an enlightening timeline of events and documents relating to Palestine and Zionism over the past century. It has shown a bit of the historical validity of a Jewish homeland. However, it is clear that the intentions of these early planners was to create a place for Jews and other downtrodden people in Palestine, but not for the Jewish homeland to become Palestine. In post-British colonial Palestine, it seems the Jews and Arabs had much more in common: independence from the major world powers at the time of WWI (Britain, Turkey, France).
How does this help me use my computer to produce music
Here's a scripting language to make music. You won't need a GUI for it.
You don't get it at all. These aren't drug dealers. The people who perpetrated this are dead. And there are others prepared to die. Killing someone who is already willing to die for their cause is called martyrdom.
You take the line that we need to teach them a lesson so they learn not to fuck with us. Hitting them with missiles and long range artillery will not teach, it will strengthen their resolve. I don't think you understand what you propose: all out war versus fanatics. You can hammer them into holes in the ground. Their grandchildren will kill your grandchildren.
You are clearly not offering a solution, just lashing out blindly.
I've said the Florida thing as a joke too. When you're not joking, you're not getting it. Israel's only value to the U.S. is strategic. There are much better pieces of land being used as landfill in America. However, it's been a political hotbed for a couple thousand years. The jews aren't leaving. The Palestinians aren't leaving. It's either mass mutual illumination of their peoples that their survival hinges on their ability to make peace. Either that or it's extinction of one of those peoples. War has not answered their questions throughout the millenia. The near future does not look rosy. Crimson is more the shade.
Puking.
Thanks for bringing up Lem. He is one of my faborite science fiction authors. I have plugged his work and ideas on Slashdot several times. (His Master's Voice, re: SETI online)
Drunk: that's the only way I can take slashdot too.
I, too, would like to confess. I have not bought one Metallica cd since I started using Napster. I have bought Agents of Oblivion, Zen Guerrilla (both who I would otherwise not have known about), several jazz and blues cds-- all because I sampled them first on Napster, well, Lopster, actually. I didn't buy any new Stones or Beatles or many cds from rich, dead people.
Mandrake is a friendly end-user oriented distribution. It makes sense that they would look to their pleased customers for support. I'll invest-- I've installed 8.0 on both home and work computers and am very happy. Good for novices like myself. Of course, the v.0.02 software without the configure files are tricky to install, but I'll figure out how to get the lib and include paths right one of these days.
Maybe that's why the economy is in the toilet: not enough fun...
Then there's the constant fear of e-mail attachments and ActiveX bombing me or following me around the web because someone chose to install software from some website based on the little friendly prompt that my OS gives me-- should be ok, right? What were they thinking when they enabled that? If I want a plugin I'll install it myself thank you.
It borders on elitism these comments that Linux is not accessible to the average user. I've done desktop support-- I've shown people how to use a mouse. I've seen these people eventually learn the Microsoft way after saying it was too hard. Fact is, they would learn the KDE or Gnome way just as easily, Eazel or no. Perhaps the learning curve would be slightly longer, but teach them they can customize just about everything and they might get a little more excited about their computer.
So how has the Linux desktop enriched my life as a reformed windows user?
installation of flash components into Mozilla plug-ins was very easy, defeating the excuse that I couldn't enjoy all the freaky, bandwidth pig websites.
most of the software I need is installed when I installed my OS-- how long would this have taken with my fresh install of Windows? all day?
The clipboard tool in KDE has a memory, when I hi-lite a URL, it pops up and asks me if I want to open it with Konqueror, Mozilla or Netscape-- I've since added other programs to this list.
Gimp is every bit as easy to use as photoshop, has a huge amount of filters and doesn't crash. Um, it's free. FREE!!!!! Did you hear me, Linux Planet dorkwad, I said free! I don't think I'll get over this one.
i've got 4 desktops now instead of one crowded desktop. I have e-mail, web browser on one. Another has a stealth copy of Maelstrom, that I play in between tasks at work. Another has a couple terminals open where I struggle with the command line after spending many GUI-addled years. Another for misc. crap. How come this feature is not crowed over more?
I can go to freshmeat and browse like mad-- it's all available and the caretakers and developers of the software give you advice if you have trouble with it. Sourceforge is just amazing. Quite a resource.
Cut and paste is becoming more universal.
The command line in Unix kicks the shit out of the DOS shell.
As a phone support wonk, I'm not l33t hax0r, and just a linux newbie (1 year), but I got a legacy database app that we support that uses Paradox for DOS to run under dosemu. That really blew me away-- we have a tough time getting this thing to run on NT/2000.
Finally, with a Linux desktop, I feel like it's really a reflection of how I work, play and interact with this device. Microsoft tries to make you feel like you are owning your computer by putting "My" before everything. But the fact is, you are doing everything their way.
So I'm offended by this shit piece of editorial showing up as a newstory on slashdot. Show a little integrity before causing a FUD rampage. Who the hell are these Linux Planet people anyways-- I went to their contact page and it said "My Desktop" --does that scream windows or what? I think their domain should stripped from them so they can go from Linux Planet to some Microsoft slum.
A friend of mine is in the carpenters' union and swears by it. It takes care of him if he gets injured, goes after employers who jake him on pay and often takes care of red tape that would otherwise hassle him. Also, consider that a union will also help you to find a new job if you get canned.
Most of all, there are courses down at the union hall so that he can learn new skills without having to fork over money for tech school or college. For instance, as a carpenter, he can become a certified welder through his union and make himself more valuable on the job. Imagine if a hacker could go down to the hall and bone up on network administation and vice versa.
After work, you could head down to the IT Unionhall and play a few games of chess and read the notice boards... Even geeks need a little camaraderie with their peers. But I guess that what IRC and the Usenet is all about. Huh, I guess unionhall would probably be an IP address...
I thought hey, now here's an idea whose time has come: Magnetic Patent Leather Suits. Shiny patent leather on the outside and magnetic strips on the inside- kind of like sealing yourself into a big leather ziplock, but easier to get at the goods inside. I hope Trinity will be wearing one of these in Matrix IV. Then, I realized, you idiot, read the fucking story before you post!
That's what I was wondering, too, then I bought my kneetop Doesheepa MIB3000. First I inflated the keyboard (wondering: how many times am I going to waste my breath on this? then, I found a small compressor available for just this purpose on Adiposebrain!) and hooked up the tiny display, which is about the size and shape of a 12-sided die. Imagine my surprise when it projected my Bjornix Jobbit desktop on a light mist of water vapor and negative ions. Hopefully, there will be kernel support for the aromatherapy module soon.
Please moderate the parent post of this post down after moderating its parent up, then please moderate this comment so far down that even the hot grits guys can't see it, then format c: and step into an empty elevator shaft.
The parent of this post is a bit OT, but it is one of the most succinct explanations of why information economy is a farce. It is obvious that our growth-based economics system is an out-moded model. Sure, it kicked ass on the command economy state socialist machine, but is it tuned to the needs of a people who mainly produce intangibles? too bad we can't just sit down and draw up the plans for a new economy like racers would decide on a new car for the team.
According to his plans, a pickup truck will be waiting to drive him to a group of bleachers where fans and 12 Hooters bar girls will pour champagne all over him.
Well, he doesn't even know if the FAA will let him do it, but he certainly knows what he wants after he succeeds. Sheesh. Some people will do anything for a little female attention. I guess if he can't do it, he could always just rent the Hooters girls and show them his rocket. Hooters, sheesh.
Pardon me for not bending down and worshipping your brain. I am one of those who was not coding in the crib, spilling coffee all over my booties. Although I do not use tech support, I often require the wisdom of others. For that, I consult the usenet community, hit Google, or rummage through a workmate's brain. The animal books come in handy. And I am not above helping someone with their Excel question: "No, no, you're not stupid-- it just takes a little experience..." Then, I slide in a little dig on Microsoft.
I helped a friend install his @home DSL service. I found the materials he was sent to be very uninformative. However, tech support was fast and knowledgable. Maybe we got lucky...
Dogs flew Spaceships!
The Aztecs invented the vacation!
Our forefathers took drugs!
Men and women are the same sex!
Your brain is not the boss!
Yes, Everything You Know Is Wrong!
-Firesign Theater, "Everything You Know Is Wrong!"
What you say here is so true-- shortages in the world-- food, fuel, medecine, water, information-- are politically organized. Access to resources, particularly those that are vital to life have been used to manipulate the populace time and again by just about every political unit out there. Control of the flow of resources is the outward sign of some group flexing their political muscle. It is an effective tool to uproot populace and move them to new area, destroying their identity in the process. Buckminister Fuller claimed that we have the technology to provide for all the world to live in comfort. Why don't we utilize it? Because exercise of power is the most hoarded resource of all.
But that's not why SETI is a futile waste of time. SETI is futile because we are deliberately ignorant beings. Hell, my president can't even communicate with me. If I can't figure out what he has to say, how can I communicate with someone who probably has a completely different sense array? Even if searching for ETs is futile, the process is probably good for us. As the guy who sent himself up 16,000 feet in a lawnchair with 42 weather balloons said, "A man can't just sit around."
Don't stop with just 2 sets of odds! As if that's all there were... How about this: the alien race is so different from us that it does not consider the electromagnetic spectrum worth messing with. Perhaps their sense of time is so different that that we live and die in between their bites of breakfast. Perhaps they communicate with chemicals and send up a different shroud in their atmosphere to announce the daily news. Our search is limited by the imagination that we have to put toward the task. Let's give our aliens the benefit of truly being alien, as in "strange to us." We don't do ourselves any favors by thinking they will be anything like us. As humans, we suffer the disadvantage of always thinking like humans. Most of our aliens in our fiction have a had convenient arrangement that somehow allowed us to communicate. Either that or they just try to destroy us. If I were an alien, I would avoid this planet like the plague. And keep checking that electro-magnetic dampener that surrounds this solar system. Heh. "maybe they'll give up, the silly asses..."
The jumpstart idea is definitely attractive. Sometimes I wonder-- how we got up off our knuckles so quick and started building the Pyramids?