nothing more than a recompile Android doesn't automatically download associated native binaries based on cpu type? If NDK is anything like JNI, it's a question of loading the right shared lib.
A potential use case for this is to run Android on mains power from your couch using 'desktop' components. e.g. Remove the stand from your Win7 multitouch monitor and 'couchsurf' using Android in full 23" glory!
To buy a Prime now or wait for the full support?:-)
I'm excited by the prospect of the Tegra 4, sporting a Cortex-A15. This would allow hypervisory goodness - running Android in a VM with no performance penalty and seamless switching between desktop and tablet linuxes.
Lenovo are alledgely shipping an Android device with 2GB of RAM, so the ceiling shouldn't be a problem (even if a market leader has only 512MB!)
Pricing will dictate whether ARM kills the Atom market. Here in Iberia I see lots of crummy atom netbooks on sale for ~ â200-300 with a puny 1GB of RAM. At least at FNAC and El Corte Ingles, the price of a Transformer is â599
A next-gen Transformer with expandable RAM (for booting Windows 8 or Linux) and a quad core A15 would suffice for many needs and doubles as an Android tablet.
Weight isn't the only factor. 15.6" is awkward when you have to pack other stuff in your bag.
It's increasing difficult to find mainstream laptops 12" and smaller. My 3 year old Core 2 Duo has a 12.1" screen. A replacement? Suffer a bigger screen, worse performance in an atom, or defect to a 11.6" MacBook Air.
I develop proprietary applications all the time. The development tools are free, as in speech and beer, and run on Linux. Deployed on proprietary operating systems running on Intel.
I was playing around with the Asus Transformer yesterday. Great concept, underspecced. If the next generation includes a RAM upgrade, it'd fill a niche for a significant number of Slashdotters. Same Androidy goodness but simultaneously running 'desktop' Linux underneath using the hardware assisted virtualization of the forthcoming Cortex A15.
Solid but not spectacular. [Though I've not seen a 1.4Ghz phone to benchmark:-) ] By "last years specs" I meant that at the time android makers were announcing dual-core with a gig of RAM, which are actually now shipping .
Yep, 200+ comments and the majority are iOS vs Android.
A bigger challenge for HP is where is the Pre3? Conquering a new, saturated, tablet market is one thing but announcing a product 6 months in advance with last year's specs to begin with is worrying for a flagship device.
If you're using Office in the cloud, then yes. Hosted solutions to counter Google Docs. Active-X is old hat. Office Lite in the browser will enable employees to edit corporate documents over https from any web browser in the world. Especially makes sense with WP7 where a full Office install doesn't make sense on a phone - no maintaining of 'Pocket Word'.
Replacing vba with JS is a no-brainer, since what runs in Office fat-client will run super fast in the web-client.
A greater emphasis on HTML, even in the native application allows one-click publishing of presentations and customer applications built using Access. Forms generation...
I've mentioned to a Apple-obsessed colleague that the 11" Macbook Air would be great machine if (a) it had a multi-touch and (b) a detachable screen, switching between iOS and OS/X seamlessly.
Response? "Oh, you need to buy 2 devices. The Macbook isn't a tablet and the iPad isn't a laptop."
Anyway, Steven Barker from NZ is porting Ubuntu to the transformer. Awaiting official nvidia support for drivers etc.
there's an open source project called IcedRobot that aims to liberate android by running it atop openjdk. The core developers have history in porting to embedded platfors via icedtea and caciocavallo. HP could crowdsource by donating a touchpad to each of the developers.
well it is baffling that nokia would buy trolltech, endorse it as the new API for Symbian and then provide no upgrade path to WP7. Porting lighthouse to MS' phone platform would seem a reasonable value-add if Elop's hands weren't tied.
Precisely. Linus' kernel has found critical mass in Android. It uses as little of GNU as possible and - it's just a kernel - Google could port dalvik to one of the BSDs within a year without too much trauma.
I'm still hopeful we'll see desktop wayland-enabled meego/webos to save us from Gnome3/Unity!
just enough time for ReactOS to deliver a 100% binary compatible replacement. Why upgrade to windows 8 if reactos becomes mature enough to reuse all your discontinued hardware with xp binary drivers?
i'm still hopeful Larry and Google can reach a peaceful agreement.
1. Google dumps the Apache Harmony libraries and licenses 'Java' under the terms of OpenJDK. 2. Oracle modularises the class libraries so that unused portions get loaded on demand. Never use AWT or jdbc on a phone? Great, they're loaded only if a 'legacy' app needs 'em. Oracle already has a 'kernel' JRE for win32 right now. However, beefy enough tablets can run that critical intranet jnlp Swing application. 3. Oracle's javafx runs on dalvik.
Consumers get 100% compatibility with desktop Java, javafx gets a lifeline and android becomes self-hosting - android tablets with a multi-core CPU and copious RAM run the eclipse ide on the device - no emu reqd.
which is what conservative governments traditionally do. Cherry pick certain areas of government to slash in the name of reducing the numbers of 'lazy public servants'. All the while promising tax cuts from the savings.
Sucks to be reliant on a government service that gets cut but hey, it's for the greater good!
Conroy's legislation can't get thru parliament. Instead they reward a telstra a fat contract to rollout the NBN, conditional on implementing his scheme. Democracy in action.:-(
With Nokia abandoning ship to MS mobile, the foss ideal of Qt everywhere looks lost at sea.
The dumbing down of desktops to capture a netbook/tablet market is optimistic in an age where ios/android dominate. In products that actually ship by the millions, the trend is the opposite to gnome's. Namely converting a small screen phone experience to a larger 10" display. In that light, perhaps deskop Linux's best hope could lie with HP's webos. They plan to upscale the touchpad's UI to every HP pc thoughout 2012. Failure to monetize the platform may see HP GPL palm's assets. Unity's tepid response could see wayland-backended webos becoming the default ui for Ubuntu's Zealous Zebra release.
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Not me - I'm still hoping for a debian-based fusion of webos, meego and wayland, running Android apps in an IcedRobot container.
I think Slashdot is more pro-Cyanogenmod than pro-Android. Plus hating Apple is fun for some people.
nothing more than a recompile Android doesn't automatically download associated native binaries based on cpu type? If NDK is anything like JNI, it's a question of loading the right shared lib.
Is your desktop OS touchscreen savvy?
A potential use case for this is to run Android on mains power from your couch using 'desktop' components. e.g. Remove the stand from your Win7 multitouch monitor and 'couchsurf' using Android in full 23" glory!
To buy a Prime now or wait for the full support? :-)
I'm excited by the prospect of the Tegra 4, sporting a Cortex-A15. This would allow hypervisory goodness - running Android in a VM with no performance penalty and seamless switching between desktop and tablet linuxes.
Lenovo are alledgely shipping an Android device with 2GB of RAM, so the ceiling shouldn't be a problem (even if a market leader has only 512MB!)
Pricing will dictate whether ARM kills the Atom market. Here in Iberia I see lots of crummy atom netbooks on sale for ~ â200-300 with a puny 1GB of RAM. At least at FNAC and El Corte Ingles, the price of a Transformer is â599
A next-gen Transformer with expandable RAM (for booting Windows 8 or Linux) and a quad core A15 would suffice for many needs and doubles as an Android tablet.
Ahem, yeah openjdk runs on ARM so yes it will.
Weight isn't the only factor. 15.6" is awkward when you have to pack other stuff in your bag.
It's increasing difficult to find mainstream laptops 12" and smaller. My 3 year old Core 2 Duo has a 12.1" screen. A replacement? Suffer a bigger screen, worse performance in an atom, or defect to a 11.6" MacBook Air.
I develop proprietary applications all the time. The development tools are free, as in speech and beer, and run on Linux. Deployed on proprietary operating systems running on Intel.
I was playing around with the Asus Transformer yesterday. Great concept, underspecced. If the next generation includes a RAM upgrade, it'd fill a niche for a significant number of Slashdotters. Same Androidy goodness but simultaneously running 'desktop' Linux underneath using the hardware assisted virtualization of the forthcoming Cortex A15.
Solid but not spectacular. [Though I've not seen a 1.4Ghz phone to benchmark :-) ] By "last years specs" I meant that at the time android makers were announcing dual-core with a gig of RAM, which are actually now shipping .
Yep, 200+ comments and the majority are iOS vs Android.
A bigger challenge for HP is where is the Pre3? Conquering a new, saturated, tablet market is one thing but announcing a product 6 months in advance with last year's specs to begin with is worrying for a flagship device.
If you're using Office in the cloud, then yes. Hosted solutions to counter Google Docs. Active-X is old hat. Office Lite in the browser will enable employees to edit corporate documents over https from any web browser in the world. Especially makes sense with WP7 where a full Office install doesn't make sense on a phone - no maintaining of 'Pocket Word'.
Replacing vba with JS is a no-brainer, since what runs in Office fat-client will run super fast in the web-client.
A greater emphasis on HTML, even in the native application allows one-click publishing of presentations and customer applications built using Access. Forms generation...
Microsoft just bought Finland.
With operator overloading:
my_lawn - you
I've mentioned to a Apple-obsessed colleague that the 11" Macbook Air would be great machine if (a) it had a multi-touch and (b) a detachable screen, switching between iOS and OS/X seamlessly.
Response? "Oh, you need to buy 2 devices. The Macbook isn't a tablet and the iPad isn't a laptop."
Anyway, Steven Barker from NZ is porting Ubuntu to the transformer. Awaiting official nvidia support for drivers etc.
there's an open source project called IcedRobot that aims to liberate android by running it atop openjdk. The core developers have history in porting to embedded platfors via icedtea and caciocavallo.
HP could crowdsource by donating a touchpad to each of the developers.
well it is baffling that nokia would buy trolltech, endorse it as the new API for Symbian and then provide no upgrade path to WP7. Porting lighthouse to MS' phone platform would seem a reasonable value-add if Elop's hands weren't tied.
Precisely. Linus' kernel has found critical mass in Android. It uses as little of GNU as possible and - it's just a kernel - Google could port dalvik to one of the BSDs within a year without too much trauma.
I'm still hopeful we'll see desktop wayland-enabled meego/webos to save us from Gnome3/Unity!
just enough time for ReactOS to deliver a 100% binary compatible replacement. Why upgrade to windows 8 if reactos becomes mature enough to reuse all your discontinued hardware with xp binary drivers?
i'm still hopeful Larry and Google can reach a peaceful agreement.
1. Google dumps the Apache Harmony libraries and licenses 'Java' under the terms of OpenJDK.
2. Oracle modularises the class libraries so that unused portions get loaded on demand. Never use AWT or jdbc on a phone? Great, they're loaded only if a 'legacy' app needs 'em. Oracle already has a 'kernel' JRE for win32 right now. However, beefy enough tablets can run that critical intranet jnlp Swing application.
3. Oracle's javafx runs on dalvik.
Consumers get 100% compatibility with desktop Java, javafx gets a lifeline and android becomes self-hosting - android tablets with a multi-core CPU and copious RAM run the eclipse ide on the device - no emu reqd.
I may have been living under a rock...
but yeah understandably if someone leaves a 'bomb' you'd take precautions.
Last year's model. The Pre 3 - for release real soon now (Friday?) - has 480x800.
which is what conservative governments traditionally do. Cherry pick certain areas of government to slash in the name of reducing the numbers of 'lazy public servants'. All the while promising tax cuts from the savings.
Sucks to be reliant on a government service that gets cut but hey, it's for the greater good!
Who decides the 40% though?
Conroy's legislation can't get thru parliament. Instead they reward a telstra a fat contract to rollout the NBN, conditional on implementing his scheme. :-(
Democracy in action.
With Nokia abandoning ship to MS mobile, the foss ideal of Qt everywhere looks lost at sea.
The dumbing down of desktops to capture a netbook/tablet market is optimistic in an age where ios/android dominate.
In products that actually ship by the millions, the trend is the opposite to gnome's. Namely converting a small screen phone experience to a larger 10" display.
In that light, perhaps deskop Linux's best hope could lie with HP's webos. They plan to upscale the touchpad's UI to every HP pc thoughout 2012. Failure to monetize the platform may see HP GPL palm's assets. Unity's tepid response could see wayland-backended webos becoming the default ui for Ubuntu's Zealous Zebra release.
well if grub2 booted directly to kdm, it could provide an OS-independent login manager, passing authentication credentials into the selected OS.