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  1. Re:SMTP is CONNECTION related on Thunderbird 1.5 Arrives · · Score: 1

    "why the hell do you need 4 SMTP servers for one account/email address. "

    Well, it sort of depends where I am at the time doesn't it ... I might be on any one of a number of ISPs needing to send mail mightn't I ?

    "The reason TB doesn't have this feature is because it's stupid and hardly anyone would use it. "

    Well, except for the stacks of people who move around alot and therefore need it.

    "only one "correct" one to begin with? "

    Ok - you can answer your question then :

    Lets say I have one e-mail account "smarty@blah.com" .... what SMTP server should I use ?

    1. When I'm connected to isp1.net
    2. When I'm connected to isp2.net
    3. When I'm connected to isp3.net

    ?

  2. Re:Still no multiple SMTP on Thunderbird 1.5 Arrives · · Score: 1

    "Don't forget to send a SIGHUP immediately after doing this, to force it to reread its configuration."

    LOL - talk about a unix type solution :)

    Seriously ... if I had my own hosted linux box somewhere, I'd just set up a single authenticated SMTP server and only need ONE SMTP server :)

  3. Re:Still no multiple SMTP on Thunderbird 1.5 Arrives · · Score: 1

    ["You realize that as long as the server relays for you, it doesn't generally matter what server you use, right?"]

    yes - but most ISPs don't have open relays, which means I can't send an e-mail from me@isp1.net using smtp.isp1.net when I'm connected to isp2.net - unless the destination is *@isp2.net

    I'm also talking VPNs, where I am connected to isp1.net and vpn.workplace1.net, if I am sending as me@isp1.net or me@isp2.net I need to use smtp.isp1.net, but if I'm sending as me@workplace1.net, I need to use smtp.workplace1.net.

    Believe me - I wouldn't be having this issue, if the SMTP servers let me send the mail.

  4. Re:SMTP is CONNECTION related on Thunderbird 1.5 Arrives · · Score: 1

    "Just install firebird and you'll see that what people are telling you is true."

    Well, I do use FB for my web broweser, but what does this have to do with Thunderbird ?

    "t's supported multiple SMTP servers for as long as I can remember... certainly 1.0."

    If you are referring to thunderbird, what you are talking about is single SMTP, which is alterable in the setup.

    So far no-one has shown me how to setup 4 SMTP servers for 1 account yet ?

  5. Re:I feel so stupid now! on Thunderbird 1.5 Arrives · · Score: 1

    "select the SMTP server you entered wish to use with this email account."

    I want to use ALL of them with each email account - thus the request for multiple SMTP support.

  6. Sadly, TB doesn't let me set them up properly. on Thunderbird 1.5 Arrives · · Score: 1

    "As long as you set them up properly you can use as many as you want."

    There in lies the problem, TB doesn't allow me to set them up properly.

    Why - because it doesn't have any way of telling TB when to use which SMTP server.

    That's what I've been asking for.

    PS: I have all my smtp servers in that list, however TB doesn't know when to use them.

  7. Re:Still no multiple SMTP on Thunderbird 1.5 Arrives · · Score: 1

    ['. Make two similar accounts, only give each one a different SMTP server. ']

    In my case, with around 8 accounts, and 4 connectons - that's 32 combinations.

    Not really workable :)

  8. SMTP is CONNECTION related on Thunderbird 1.5 Arrives · · Score: 1

    "account settings"

    Again - SMTP settings are not ACCOUNT related, they are CONNECTION related.

  9. Re:On 1.5 you can. on Thunderbird 1.5 Arrives · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "Then to associate the server you want for a particular account. " However, SMTP servers are not associated with an account, but a connection. Unless you have lots of open relays in your ISPs, which I don't.

  10. Re:Still no multiple SMTP on Thunderbird 1.5 Arrives · · Score: 1

    "Next time try installing the application and having a look in SMTP settings."

    Next time troll, try reading the problem before making stupid comments.

    SMTP lets me change which SINGLE SMTP server is currently in use, it doesn't allow for multiple SMTP servers.

  11. Re:Still no multiple SMTP on Thunderbird 1.5 Arrives · · Score: 1

    Excellent - so you have said I can have any ONE SMTP server I want, at any one time there is only ONE SMTP server. What I need, and lots of other people (based upon the threads upstairs) - is multiple simultaneous SMTP servers, not associated to the account - but rather the particular connection.

  12. Re:Still no multiple SMTP on Thunderbird 1.5 Arrives · · Score: -1, Troll

    Excuse me troll, but I've been using it since 0.8, the point is I don't have AN outgoing SMTP server, I have 4 or so depending on where I am at which time of the day and in what circumstance or VPN I am connected to.

    And going into the options area evertime I want to send an e-mail is just stupid.

    Every other e-mail client I have used has this facility, why not TB ?

  13. Re:Still no multiple SMTP on Thunderbird 1.5 Arrives · · Score: 1

    I use 'Buttons 0.5.1', it gives me an SMTP server selection in the compose e-mail dialog.

    Not perfect, but a reasonable work around.

  14. Still no multiple SMTP on Thunderbird 1.5 Arrives · · Score: 1

    I asked around version 0.8 ... but I still have to rely on third party plugins for multiple SMTP.

    When are they going to take SMTP out of the account, and associate with the connection ?

    Grrr arrggh...

  15. Re:And it's evolution that's hard to swallow? on Quantum Trickery - Einstein's Strangest Theory · · Score: 1

    Quantum mechanics is such an easier target because maybe 50 people worldwide really understand it (okay, I'm exaggerating, but by how much?)

    I'd imagine by at least 80%.

  16. FFS - What next on RPGs In The 'Real World' · · Score: 1

    Klingon courses, WoW Gold on eBay and courses in Role Playing.

    Is there a US University offering wanking courses - get these guys to teach.

    Jeez!!!!

  17. And God Said to Moses... on First Quantum Byte Created · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... build a Linux Box 40 Qubits in size....

  18. Re:Whats a Qbit? on First Quantum Byte Created · · Score: 1

    Isn't a QBit an ancient measure of length ?

  19. My attempt : s/:-)/;-(/ on First Face Transplant · · Score: 1

    Seriously - what is this going to mean for the terrorism fanatics in the UK,US and AU governments ?

  20. Losing What Rights on The Demise of IP? · · Score: 1

    As if I or any other pleb on this planet has I.P. rights.

    I.P. rights are currently the right of the well off.

    It's either $80,000 to patent an invention, or it's similar amounts to defend my copyright.

    These dudes are kidding themselves if the average joe is worried about 'losing their rights'.

  21. So that means.. on Bandwidth Challenge Results · · Score: 4, Funny

    ... you could transfer the entire library of quality hollywood movies in 4 seconds.

    What do we do next ?

  22. Isn't this like... on Hollywood Buddies up with Bram Cohen · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ... talking to the inventor of FTP and telling him to not let you download movies from his site ?

  23. What would be good... on Music Industry Backlash Against Sony Rootkit · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    ..would be to let people buy music online ... I know this is an amazing idea, but if they all got over their petty rivalries (company vs company and country vs country) and just sell the music, sell the DVDs .... then piracy would decrease at least amongst the 'unwilling' participants of the practice.

  24. For something Completey New... on Baltimore to Test Cell Phone Traffic Monitoring · · Score: 0, Redundant

    This is a dup article.

    I know that no-one knows this yet, and that my extensive research shows that I am the first to post this tit-bit.

  25. Explains alot... on Is the Earth in a Vortex of Space-Time? · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    My computer crashes, my increasing weight - I can know explain all because of this.

    Screw the diet now.