Why would anyone expect that a more complicated and considerably more secure operating system would be faster!
"Complexity" isn't a good thing. It's a necessary evil, a means to an end. As for security...
Well, in my basement, I run a 1982-vintage VAX-11/785. It's rated at approximately 1.5 MIPS, has 16 MiB RAM, and supports 16 simultaneous, active users, without much complaint It could support several hundred, if not thousands, if you've written your app well enough.
And I'll be damned if VAX/VMS 4.0 isn't more secure - and a HELL of a lot faster.
In addition, there is a website called http://archive.computerhistory.org/ which apparently functions as somewhere they stash files that they don't mind being public, but don't care enough to yell loudly about. There are a lot of cool videos there! Highly recommended.
Also highly recommended is the Computer History Museum itself. It is an incredibly exciting place to go. It's about two or three stone's throws from the Googleplex, in Mountain View, in an old SGI building. Go there. Donations also recommended, because in short: They do extremely important work, they're the only ones who do it well enough, and they've got extremely skilled people there.
I am not affiliated with the museum, but I do wear the "Volunteer" shirt with some amount of pride.:)
That was only the case on a few machines, like, I believe, the KS-10, and the KL-10. The KA-10 and KI-10, for example, did not have such a console, and had a proper 36 bit wide blinkenconsole, wired straight into the CPU.
Why, oh WHY wasn't this modded "Funny"? "INSIGHTFUL"?! Ironically, I feel compelled to yell "GET SERIOUS!"
I can just picture the conversation at the local drug cartel:
A cartel boss hangs up his cellphone after ordering the murder of several interfering policemen. Boss: We need a phone line for our new location Henchman: Sure thing, boss. Which fake name should I register it under? Boss: ARE YOU ABSOLUTELY MAD!? THAT IS A VIOLATION OF THE TERMS OF SERVICE! Murder, fine, extortion, fine, but VIOLATING TELEPHONE COMPANY TERMS OF SERVICE AGREEMENTS!? We're not IDIOTS here! THIS IS A BUSINESS, and we have to REGISTER AS SUCH!
No, heh - 3AM-style bad phrasing on my part - the problem was that my bones had been broken a while ago, which didn't hurt all that much, grown at an angle and had been broken up again, at which point it really did hurt quite a bit, to state it very mildly. They casted it up as a quick fix, and scheduled me for surgery to realign the bones properly.
I'm in one of those scary, socialist countries - with a below-par-for-Europe health care system - and I got in with a broken arm, was X-rayed, and walked out with a cast the same day. Surgery was scheduled to readjust some bones that had grown at an angle a week later. This was a downtown health station, total cost $20. $30 if you count the burger we had across the street. (Ever tried to eat a large cheezburger with one hand? Non-trivial!)
But thinking about it, I guess you're right, these socialist countries suck. The game console they carted into my room while I was in the hospital was a stinkin' NES - now, come on. How rinky-dink and Soviet can you get? I wanted an N64, damnit!
Though I agree with you -- do keep in mind that MRI machines are a bitch to maintain. They're often cooled by liquid helium, and have all kinds of crazy special-purpose electronics. Keeping an MRI machine alive does cost a lot.
As opposed to an X-ray machine, which is fairly pedestrian.
No argument - it just does. It is IMPOSSIBLE to enforce copyright without monitoring all communication.
Sure it is: With a sane copyright law, it is only impossible to enforce without monitoring legal commerce. Which they have to do anyway, in anything but a laissez-faire system.
To me, they cost between 40 and 60 dollars, for the high school curriculum.
The total cost was around 300 and 400 dollars, which is a lot for this high-school kid.
I'd much rather have a laptop.
Let LANCOR explain to the Nigerian government and people how their greed and abuse of patent law is screwing up the education of Nigeria's children and putting them at a serious disadvantage to the country's neighbors.
That doesn't matter terribly much to the Nigerian government, since all the kids of the high-ups are in European and American private schools, anyway.
The funniest part is: I was listening to this on my MP3 player, which is on shuffle. It played this line, literally the second I scrolled down to read your text.
I guess when you have millions of readers, it's bound to happen.
It's part of the freedom that makes the internet so great, and you can't get rid of it without removing a lot of that freedom.
Freedom of speech has its limits. Slander is one of them, and for a very good reason. Simply because it isn't easily enforcable doesn't mean it's a good, or even acceptable thing. Because we can't effectively stop it doesn't mean we should accept it.
What separates the men from the boys and the ladies from the girls is whether you understand it's just some people having a little fun at your expense, and is no big deal
"A little fun at my expense" consisted of cracking my machine, dumping images from my webcam, uploading pictures of me running half-naked out of the shower trying to yank the webcam out that I suddenly noticed was flashing - and putting it online, with my real name - promptly getting it to be one of the top hits when googling my name. My prospective employer didn't really think the site was all that funny when she asked about it at the job interview, having googled my name. I'd like to see you see the LULZ in that.
It's as if people forget why it's a good idea to protect your privacy when they go on the internet, and some of these people get burnt by it. I hope they learn something at least.
That's not the only reason - I was trolled quite a lot after having disagreed with someone in an online discussion about health care. Trolling still is a pretty stupid and mean thing to be doing, no matter what the trolls personal justification might be. Your logic is about as sensible as saying a thief isn't to blame because the house he stole from was ugly.
That's new to me, I must admit. But that certainly does not mean that Norwegian officials were aware of the nature of these flights - much less participated in them.
What I was alluding to was merely the current state of affairs where most Americans are more than happy to go on smug tirades on how much more free their country is, even thought there are currently dire problems with civil liberties in the United States.
I'm just trying to point out the fact that we're not torturing innocents, secretly throwing habeas corpus out the window, or keeping tabs on peoples' library check-out records. We are both countries which share deeply held values, and we both face challenges to those values at times - but there is certainly no reason - or, indeed, opportunity, to assume the higher moral ground in this situation.
In Norway, if you're charged with a 'hate-crime' you're automatically considered guilty until proven, beyond the shadow of a doubt, that you're innocent.
That is a quite extraordinary claim. If you care to back that up with anything, I'm prepared to listen.
Guantanamo has plenty of REAL war criminals, REAL murderers (...)
That's an incredibly bankrupt path of logic. It's inexcusably dumb.
But, what Norway is doing with this filtering and with the 'guilty-until-innocent' clause they've introduced
You mean, that a 2-against-4 minority of bureaucrats with no political positions, have suggested as a possible alternative for combatting cyber-crime? It's not even a formal direct suggestion to pass as a law, more as a general guidance as part of a council.
...The rest of your post is just incoherent braindead jabbering. You, Sir, are an idiot.
Ah... yet another "progressive"/. poster. If a person wants to go to a private "religious nutcase school like Liberty University," what exactly is your problem with that.
My problem with that is that the poor children would get religion - and more than likely, a substandard education - shoved down their throats by their parents. In Liberty University, there is an exhibit of some dinosaur fossils, claiming they have been dated 3000 years old. That isn't education, that's indoctrination.
And anyone who is not starving should give as much money as possible to the government, right?
No, false. The OP seemed to be making the point that we were losing all our money to government taxes, which simply isn't true. Taxes in Norway are quite reasonable, considering the services offered by the government which I'd otherwise have to pay for anyway, and the general effect of improvement I feel that it offers society - in terms of culture, education, parks, museums, roads, public transport, et cetera et cetera.
Just empty your bank account 'cause we all know that bureaucracy is synonymous with efficiency.
Not at all. The Norwegian government isn't particularily bureaucratic. Certainly it's nothing compared to the US government!! (I've seen both, and was appalled by the runaway inefficiency of most US gov't-run services.)
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You stud, you.
I don't like it, but I have to keep it around. It's the system that controls the DC-9 full-motion flight simulator.
Why would anyone expect that a more complicated and considerably more secure operating system would be faster!
"Complexity" isn't a good thing. It's a necessary evil, a means to an end. As for security...
Well, in my basement, I run a 1982-vintage VAX-11/785. It's rated at approximately 1.5 MIPS, has 16 MiB RAM, and supports 16 simultaneous, active users, without much complaint It could support several hundred, if not thousands, if you've written your app well enough.
And I'll be damned if VAX/VMS 4.0 isn't more secure - and a HELL of a lot faster.
...And I like the GUI better, too.
If you view the Past Events on the Computer History Museum, you will see all of the talks, in quite high-quality WMV files.
:)
http://www.computerhistory.org/events/index.php?view=previous§ion=calendar
In addition, there is a website called http://archive.computerhistory.org/ which apparently functions as somewhere they stash files that they don't mind being public, but don't care enough to yell loudly about. There are a lot of cool videos there! Highly recommended.
Also highly recommended is the Computer History Museum itself. It is an incredibly exciting place to go. It's about two or three stone's throws from the Googleplex, in Mountain View, in an old SGI building. Go there. Donations also recommended, because in short: They do extremely important work, they're the only ones who do it well enough, and they've got extremely skilled people there.
I am not affiliated with the museum, but I do wear the "Volunteer" shirt with some amount of pride.
That was only the case on a few machines, like, I believe, the KS-10, and the KL-10. The KA-10 and KI-10, for example, did not have such a console, and had a proper 36 bit wide blinkenconsole, wired straight into the CPU.
http://simh.trailing-edge.com/photos/pdp10.jpg has a picture of the KA-10.
Why, oh WHY wasn't this modded "Funny"? "INSIGHTFUL"?! Ironically, I feel compelled to yell "GET SERIOUS!"
I can just picture the conversation at the local drug cartel:
A cartel boss hangs up his cellphone after ordering the murder of several interfering policemen.
Boss: We need a phone line for our new location
Henchman: Sure thing, boss. Which fake name should I register it under?
Boss: ARE YOU ABSOLUTELY MAD!? THAT IS A VIOLATION OF THE TERMS OF SERVICE! Murder, fine, extortion, fine, but VIOLATING TELEPHONE COMPANY TERMS OF SERVICE AGREEMENTS!? We're not IDIOTS here! THIS IS A BUSINESS, and we have to REGISTER AS SUCH!
No, heh - 3AM-style bad phrasing on my part - the problem was that my bones had been broken a while ago, which didn't hurt all that much, grown at an angle and had been broken up again, at which point it really did hurt quite a bit, to state it very mildly. They casted it up as a quick fix, and scheduled me for surgery to realign the bones properly.
I'm in one of those scary, socialist countries - with a below-par-for-Europe health care system - and I got in with a broken arm, was X-rayed, and walked out with a cast the same day. Surgery was scheduled to readjust some bones that had grown at an angle a week later. This was a downtown health station, total cost $20. $30 if you count the burger we had across the street. (Ever tried to eat a large cheezburger with one hand? Non-trivial!)
/me wanders off, singing the Internationale
But thinking about it, I guess you're right, these socialist countries suck. The game console they carted into my room while I was in the hospital was a stinkin' NES - now, come on. How rinky-dink and Soviet can you get? I wanted an N64, damnit!
Though I agree with you -- do keep in mind that MRI machines are a bitch to maintain. They're often cooled by liquid helium, and have all kinds of crazy special-purpose electronics. Keeping an MRI machine alive does cost a lot. As opposed to an X-ray machine, which is fairly pedestrian.
No argument - it just does. It is IMPOSSIBLE to enforce copyright without monitoring all communication.
Sure it is: With a sane copyright law, it is only impossible to enforce without monitoring legal commerce. Which they have to do anyway, in anything but a laissez-faire system.
To me, they cost between 40 and 60 dollars, for the high school curriculum. The total cost was around 300 and 400 dollars, which is a lot for this high-school kid. I'd much rather have a laptop.
I'd put in, rather crucially:
9. There is no other format that actually can do what PDF does, as well as PDF does it.
As opposed to with Microsoft. The computer community already has ODF, and it's doing its job perfectly well.
Completely standard Norwegian PC keyboards have used (two) dead keys since the early eighties. I think many other European countries have them too.
Let LANCOR explain to the Nigerian government and people how their greed and abuse of patent law is screwing up the education of Nigeria's children and putting them at a serious disadvantage to the country's neighbors.
That doesn't matter terribly much to the Nigerian government, since all the kids of the high-ups are in European and American private schools, anyway.
HAH!
The funniest part is: I was listening to this on my MP3 player, which is on shuffle. It played this line, literally the second I scrolled down to read your text.
I guess when you have millions of readers, it's bound to happen.
Ironically, you shortened its life with your observation.
Thanks a lot, dickwad!
Speaking as a computer history freak - Pentium 166s are not old enough to be fun, and they're too old to be useful.
They're outdone by embedded chips in washing machines. No, really.
It's part of the freedom that makes the internet so great, and you can't get rid of it without removing a lot of that freedom.
Freedom of speech has its limits. Slander is one of them, and for a very good reason. Simply because it isn't easily enforcable doesn't mean it's a good, or even acceptable thing. Because we can't effectively stop it doesn't mean we should accept it.
What separates the men from the boys and the ladies from the girls is whether you understand it's just some people having a little fun at your expense, and is no big deal
"A little fun at my expense" consisted of cracking my machine, dumping images from my webcam, uploading pictures of me running half-naked out of the shower trying to yank the webcam out that I suddenly noticed was flashing - and putting it online, with my real name - promptly getting it to be one of the top hits when googling my name. My prospective employer didn't really think the site was all that funny when she asked about it at the job interview, having googled my name. I'd like to see you see the LULZ in that.
It's as if people forget why it's a good idea to protect your privacy when they go on the internet, and some of these people get burnt by it. I hope they learn something at least.
That's not the only reason - I was trolled quite a lot after having disagreed with someone in an online discussion about health care. Trolling still is a pretty stupid and mean thing to be doing, no matter what the trolls personal justification might be. Your logic is about as sensible as saying a thief isn't to blame because the house he stole from was ugly.
Not really. The United States is a very strong diplomatic ally, and has been since WWII. We tend to put up with that kind of shit. :)
That's new to me, I must admit. But that certainly does not mean that Norwegian officials were aware of the nature of these flights - much less participated in them.
Please supply any information saying Norway has participated in this? I believe the government has actually condemned it.
Just for the record, in my opinion, mods are on crack for modding this post and your replies "troll".
What I was alluding to was merely the current state of affairs where most Americans are more than happy to go on smug tirades on how much more free their country is, even thought there are currently dire problems with civil liberties in the United States.
I'm just trying to point out the fact that we're not torturing innocents, secretly throwing habeas corpus out the window, or keeping tabs on peoples' library check-out records. We are both countries which share deeply held values, and we both face challenges to those values at times - but there is certainly no reason - or, indeed, opportunity, to assume the higher moral ground in this situation.
In Norway, if you're charged with a 'hate-crime' you're automatically considered guilty until proven, beyond the shadow of a doubt, that you're innocent.
...The rest of your post is just incoherent braindead jabbering. You, Sir, are an idiot.
That is a quite extraordinary claim. If you care to back that up with anything, I'm prepared to listen.
Guantanamo has plenty of REAL war criminals, REAL murderers (...)
That's an incredibly bankrupt path of logic. It's inexcusably dumb.
But, what Norway is doing with this filtering and with the 'guilty-until-innocent' clause they've introduced
You mean, that a 2-against-4 minority of bureaucrats with no political positions, have suggested as a possible alternative for combatting cyber-crime? It's not even a formal direct suggestion to pass as a law, more as a general guidance as part of a council.
Ah... yet another "progressive" /. poster. If a person wants to go to a private "religious nutcase school like Liberty University," what exactly is your problem with that.
My problem with that is that the poor children would get religion - and more than likely, a substandard education - shoved down their throats by their parents. In Liberty University, there is an exhibit of some dinosaur fossils, claiming they have been dated 3000 years old. That isn't education, that's indoctrination.
And anyone who is not starving should give as much money as possible to the government, right?
No, false. The OP seemed to be making the point that we were losing all our money to government taxes, which simply isn't true. Taxes in Norway are quite reasonable, considering the services offered by the government which I'd otherwise have to pay for anyway, and the general effect of improvement I feel that it offers society - in terms of culture, education, parks, museums, roads, public transport, et cetera et cetera.
Just empty your bank account 'cause we all know that bureaucracy is synonymous with efficiency.
Not at all. The Norwegian government isn't particularily bureaucratic. Certainly it's nothing compared to the US government!! (I've seen both, and was appalled by the runaway inefficiency of most US gov't-run services.)