If they need customers to make their business viable and people can get it for free now through P2P isnt that a good thing?
I don't see how your arguement makes sense when people on P2P programs sharing files arent paying for them. I don't think going after the consumer is reasonable because the consumer isnt paying anything for this. The consumer is just a nameless person who happened to download the file and by default they arent really guilty of anything besides downloading the file and letting others download it.
So yeah they are a distributor, but I don't see a way in which you can stop internet distribution. You can make it so that its not profitable for the producer and P2P does that by default. You can also make it harder to distribute but I don't think arresting people is the way to do it. Filters work best.
Stopping the junkie does nothing to stop the creation of childporn. Why does it matter if we stop the spread of child porn vs the creation?
Stopping the creation of childporn is very obvious, we know why we must do this, children are being hurt by this. Childporn thats already created and being spread around Kazaa by millions or thousands of people, what do you gain by arresting each person?
Same goes with nuclear weapons, we have no right to tell other people they cannot create them if we have them. This also goes for the internet, when we start with censorship and start invading privacy in the end we lose our ability to tell China they are backwards if we are trying to outlaw P2P to stop kiddie porn.
Kiddie porn is bad, but its not like the whole internet is flooded with kiddie porn, I don't see the point in creating new laws and suddenly cracking down on a problem which has always existed. What is the goal? If its to stop children from being hurt then we need to go after the producers and this has little to nothing to do with Kazaa. If the goal is to stop the spread of childporn, we can use the filter systems built into these P2P programs and perhaps make them more advanced.
I don't see however the point in chasing every single person who has a copy of file X in their shared folder. It's a slippery slope.
I'm all for stopping the production of kiddie porn, I'm against censorship. If censorship is the only way to stop the distrubition then its not worth it. The distribution is not whats doing the harm, those are the pawns of the producers.
This would be like arresting everyone who is infected by the worm instead of the creator.
It can happen once in a great while but it doesnt happen all the time.
Childporn is a problem but people are making it seem like its such a big problem just to have an excuse to attack P2P and remove our privacy.
I know theres millions using filesharing networks. Thats just my point its impossible to stop childporn on these networks using traditional law enforcement. It's too many people sharing it.
You don't outlaw the gun to prevent murder, you go after the people who commit murders using the gun. In this situation it seems we are trying to outlaw the gun.
Put the backdoors in the Camera and in the picture formats themselves so that they become traceable. Any picture should have information about the computer it originated from.
That does nothing to stop child porn. That just stops people who are looking for it from finding it.
What does this accomplish if the producers are still creating and uploading the porn? stopping the spread of childporn is not the same as stopping the creation.
Just reporting files to the FBI does nothing. The name of the file does not tell you it is or isnt child porn. The file itself might be on the computer but this does not tell you that the owner of this computer is the child pornographer who created the file.
So it's more complicated than simply arresting random people who have files with the wrong names or who have kiddie porn files. This does absolutely nothing to stop the creation of these files and you only are arresting the people who share it.
To me it seems to be more of an attack on P2P and internet freedom than an attack on childporn. Everyone knows the childporn is produced offline yet everyone is focused on the internet? This would be equal to going to the ghettos and trailer parks to arrest drug addicts. Yes of course you will find drug addicts if you look for them but arresting them does absolutely nothing because the drug dealers will continue producing more drugs.
In this situation we have to remove the producers of child porn and by doing so, the child porn will eventually become too rare to find and won't be floating around on kazaa. I don't really see how tapping peoples internet connections has anything to do with stopping childporn, it seems more like invading peoples privacy. If there is a wiretap used it should be to monitor the activity of the computer, not monitor internet activity.
Anyone who produces childporn most likely uses Windows and one of the digital camera programs. Shouldnt law enforcement work with the makers of this software and hardware to allow them to tap just that software or access JUST the pictures on a computer? Or movies if movies are the problem could still be handled in such a way so that it does not require a wiretap.
The way to stop childporn has nothing to do with P2P or the internet. We have to stop the producers of it and these people are all offline.
Police can stop SOME child pornographers who are stupid enough to share stuff on Kazaa or something but thats about it. It's extremely difficult to figure out who created what picture so unless we change digital cameras so they trace back to individuals somehow, its going ot be extremely difficult to ever know who created it.
If we really are going to go after child pornographers we need a network of spy agents, we need to put chips in every digital camera to allow police to figure out who owns what pictures, every picture uploaded to a computer should have information attached to it showing which computer it came from.
Only then can we begin to stop childporn, however the current methods seem like a waste of time. It's like a joke. You don't stop child pornographers by arresting people on Kazaa, its more complicated than this.
Theres no outrage over this because you won't find child porn unless you are looking for it.
I've used various P2P networks and never found childporn. If you've found it obviously you were searching for it to begin with.
The day I start seeing it without searching for it is the day I'll be outraged. Of course theres childporn on the internet, on P2P, so? There is childporn offline too.
America does not let children work. If they did I would have worked to buy a computer.
And when I was growing up, there were not a lot of computer owners so buying used wasnt even an option.
Moral character is nice, its cool that you are an idealist. Hopefully your kids will find a job when outsourcing brings all the jobs to other countries.
How exactly would you get into a good university without a computer?? What if you have kids and you want them to actually go to a real college instead of a community college? A computer is a requirement if you want to be an elite student.
When you assume humans can be trusted you are going against human nature. Any security system should assume by default that no human can be trusted. Capitalism is working because it goes with and not against human nature. Security can only work when you calculate human nature into the equation. Humans are selfish, greedy, and untrustworthy/dishonest by nature. Design systems which assume this from the beginning and security works.
Rich people don't have to steal so they can decide to follow their morals. When you cannot afford a computer and you really need one, why not steal it?
This is survival of the fittest, steal or die.
We all know Napster is owned by the RIAA. We all know the RIAA does not look out for the artists or us. I refuse to pay the RIAA.
I don't have a problem paying $3 a month, I already pay more than that right now a week. The problem is where the money goes. I'd rather pay a legit service where the money goes directly to artists before paying the RIAA.
Thats just how it is. Yes we will pay, we just won't pay for a service which is not legit.
Changing the content is one thing, but when you fire the entire crew you just destroyed what you purchased.
So why the hell did they purchase TechTV? Just to destroy the competition? TechTV was all about its hosts, the content was not so impressive but the people were experienced and the hosts knew what they were doing.
Now this is gone, so they just wasted 300 million dollars purchasing something only to fire all the key people who made it worth purchasing in the first place.
We should launch a protest site, put some heat on comcast.
Mainly I don't care if they change the shows, I just want them to keep the cast. You cannot easily replace years of developed experienced talent like that. Really they all were very good at what they did. The problem was never the cast itself, the problem was always the content.
People werent interested in seeing nerdy content 24/7, too much Robot Wars, not enough shows like Unscrewed or X-Play, Anime Unleashed was good, but you see these shows while they were great are only great due to the people involved.
I think its a huge mistake to fire everyone. They could at least keep the hosts to the shows and use them as co-hosts to help with the transition.
What? They think people who were fans of TechTV are going to watch G4? Think again. G4 is now dead along with TechTV.
My Athlon64 512 megs of ram with 10kRPM SATA RAID drives, takes 2 seconds to start.
People just need to buy better harddrive setups. All software will load instantly if you have RAID, good CPU and decent amount of ram. Not to mention you can install applications instantly. It's the hardware which controls the speed of the software. Instead of worrying about the speed it runs on the slowest computer they should just make us upgrade.
I have a brand new athlon64 with 512 megs of ram and SATA RAID1 10k drives,
So far Netscape/Mozilla loads in 2 seconds. The problem is not the software, its the hardware. RAID should be the standard setup, and it should be raid 0+1
This is why they are suing people for stuff they should be purchasing but decided not to. This is why they want to ban file sharing and P2P. You should only be giving your money to them, not Napster, not Kazaa, not even directly to the artists.
We all know that China has one of the worlds lowest crime rates. So perhaps they do respect authority.
This is good and this is bad, its good because there's less wars, less terrorism, less crime. It's bad because there's less freedom.
Overall though the USA is no better, people at work never question authority. Everyone is anti government pro Boss, we kiss our bosses ass here and never question the word of the great boss at our job.
So in a way, the USA in the corporate world is no better when it comes to authority than China. I've never been pro authority, which is why I hated school and I can't stand the corporate world.
But there generally are two kinds of people, the ones who accept authority and the ones who can't. Generally the people who can't have a much harder time than the people who can, are more likely to drop out, or end up in prison.
It's not a cultural thing, its human nature for some people to respect authority and others not. In China however rebelling isn't an option because deviance is an American ideal. The rebels in China are quickly killed. Rebels in the USA are just locked in jail and then released after a while.
If the Black Panthers were hung, shot and murdered on national TV live, instead of just locked in jail people would think twice about challenging the government.
Perhaps this is why the Waco incident was on live TV.
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If they need customers to make their business viable and people can get it for free now through P2P isnt that a good thing?
I don't see how your arguement makes sense when people on P2P programs sharing files arent paying for them. I don't think going after the consumer is reasonable because the consumer isnt paying anything for this. The consumer is just a nameless person who happened to download the file and by default they arent really guilty of anything besides downloading the file and letting others download it.
So yeah they are a distributor, but I don't see a way in which you can stop internet distribution. You can make it so that its not profitable for the producer and P2P does that by default. You can also make it harder to distribute but I don't think arresting people is the way to do it. Filters work best.
Stopping the junkie does nothing to stop the creation of childporn. Why does it matter if we stop the spread of child porn vs the creation?
Stopping the creation of childporn is very obvious, we know why we must do this, children are being hurt by this. Childporn thats already created and being spread around Kazaa by millions or thousands of people, what do you gain by arresting each person?
Same goes with nuclear weapons, we have no right to tell other people they cannot create them if we have them. This also goes for the internet, when we start with censorship and start invading privacy in the end we lose our ability to tell China they are backwards if we are trying to outlaw P2P to stop kiddie porn.
Kiddie porn is bad, but its not like the whole internet is flooded with kiddie porn, I don't see the point in creating new laws and suddenly cracking down on a problem which has always existed. What is the goal? If its to stop children from being hurt then we need to go after the producers and this has little to nothing to do with Kazaa. If the goal is to stop the spread of childporn, we can use the filter systems built into these P2P programs and perhaps make them more advanced.
I don't see however the point in chasing every single person who has a copy of file X in their shared folder. It's a slippery slope.
I'm all for stopping the production of kiddie porn, I'm against censorship. If censorship is the only way to stop the distrubition then its not worth it. The distribution is not whats doing the harm, those are the pawns of the producers.
This would be like arresting everyone who is infected by the worm instead of the creator.
It can happen once in a great while but it doesnt happen all the time.
Childporn is a problem but people are making it seem like its such a big problem just to have an excuse to attack P2P and remove our privacy.
I know theres millions using filesharing networks. Thats just my point its impossible to stop childporn on these networks using traditional law enforcement. It's too many people sharing it.
You don't outlaw the gun to prevent murder, you go after the people who commit murders using the gun. In this situation it seems we are trying to outlaw the gun.
Put the backdoors in the Camera and in the picture formats themselves so that they become traceable. Any picture should have information about the computer it originated from.
That does nothing to stop child porn. That just stops people who are looking for it from finding it.
What does this accomplish if the producers are still creating and uploading the porn? stopping the spread of childporn is not the same as stopping the creation.
What is the goal?
Just reporting files to the FBI does nothing. The name of the file does not tell you it is or isnt child porn. The file itself might be on the computer but this does not tell you that the owner of this computer is the child pornographer who created the file.
So it's more complicated than simply arresting random people who have files with the wrong names or who have kiddie porn files. This does absolutely nothing to stop the creation of these files and you only are arresting the people who share it.
To me it seems to be more of an attack on P2P and internet freedom than an attack on childporn. Everyone knows the childporn is produced offline yet everyone is focused on the internet? This would be equal to going to the ghettos and trailer parks to arrest drug addicts. Yes of course you will find drug addicts if you look for them but arresting them does absolutely nothing because the drug dealers will continue producing more drugs.
In this situation we have to remove the producers of child porn and by doing so, the child porn will eventually become too rare to find and won't be floating around on kazaa. I don't really see how tapping peoples internet connections has anything to do with stopping childporn, it seems more like invading peoples privacy. If there is a wiretap used it should be to monitor the activity of the computer, not monitor internet activity.
Anyone who produces childporn most likely uses Windows and one of the digital camera programs. Shouldnt law enforcement work with the makers of this software and hardware to allow them to tap just that software or access JUST the pictures on a computer? Or movies if movies are the problem could still be handled in such a way so that it does not require a wiretap.
The way to stop childporn has nothing to do with P2P or the internet. We have to stop the producers of it and these people are all offline.
Police can stop SOME child pornographers who are stupid enough to share stuff on Kazaa or something but thats about it. It's extremely difficult to figure out who created what picture so unless we change digital cameras so they trace back to individuals somehow, its going ot be extremely difficult to ever know who created it.
If we really are going to go after child pornographers we need a network of spy agents, we need to put chips in every digital camera to allow police to figure out who owns what pictures, every picture uploaded to a computer should have information attached to it showing which computer it came from.
Only then can we begin to stop childporn, however the current methods seem like a waste of time. It's like a joke. You don't stop child pornographers by arresting people on Kazaa, its more complicated than this.
Theres no outrage over this because you won't find child porn unless you are looking for it.
I've used various P2P networks and never found childporn. If you've found it obviously you were searching for it to begin with.
The day I start seeing it without searching for it is the day I'll be outraged. Of course theres childporn on the internet, on P2P, so? There is childporn offline too.
America does not let children work. If they did I would have worked to buy a computer. And when I was growing up, there were not a lot of computer owners so buying used wasnt even an option. Moral character is nice, its cool that you are an idealist. Hopefully your kids will find a job when outsourcing brings all the jobs to other countries.
How exactly would you get into a good university without a computer?? What if you have kids and you want them to actually go to a real college instead of a community college? A computer is a requirement if you want to be an elite student.
When you assume humans can be trusted you are going against human nature. Any security system should assume by default that no human can be trusted. Capitalism is working because it goes with and not against human nature. Security can only work when you calculate human nature into the equation. Humans are selfish, greedy, and untrustworthy/dishonest by nature. Design systems which assume this from the beginning and security works.
Rich people don't have to steal so they can decide to follow their morals. When you cannot afford a computer and you really need one, why not steal it? This is survival of the fittest, steal or die.
I think between $300-320 a share.
We all know Napster is owned by the RIAA. We all know the RIAA does not look out for the artists or us. I refuse to pay the RIAA. I don't have a problem paying $3 a month, I already pay more than that right now a week. The problem is where the money goes. I'd rather pay a legit service where the money goes directly to artists before paying the RIAA. Thats just how it is. Yes we will pay, we just won't pay for a service which is not legit.
We (The yanks) have done no better than the japs when it comes to running a government which is not corrupt.
Capitalism and Communism both equally corrupt government and its proven that no government can withstand the economic forces.
Windows XP has backdoors in it to allow Microsoft and other authorities to trace people.
If the file was compiled on XP, its fairly simple to see that and know a lot about the machine just by analyzing the file itself.
Microsoft most likely had a backdoor set up within XP. Next time they will write their viruses in Linux.
Actually go to a few poor communities. All of the local businesses there exist to create jobs.
Watch the movie Barbershop and you'll know that in poor communities local businesses exist simply to support those commmunities and bring jobs.
Responsibile companies do exist to help the community, irresponsibile companies just want to make money.
Changing the content is one thing, but when you fire the entire crew you just destroyed what you purchased.
So why the hell did they purchase TechTV? Just to destroy the competition? TechTV was all about its hosts, the content was not so impressive but the people were experienced and the hosts knew what they were doing.
Now this is gone, so they just wasted 300 million dollars purchasing something only to fire all the key people who made it worth purchasing in the first place.
Sounds like a Microsoft chess move.
We should launch a protest site, put some heat on comcast. Mainly I don't care if they change the shows, I just want them to keep the cast. You cannot easily replace years of developed experienced talent like that. Really they all were very good at what they did. The problem was never the cast itself, the problem was always the content. People werent interested in seeing nerdy content 24/7, too much Robot Wars, not enough shows like Unscrewed or X-Play, Anime Unleashed was good, but you see these shows while they were great are only great due to the people involved. I think its a huge mistake to fire everyone. They could at least keep the hosts to the shows and use them as co-hosts to help with the transition. What? They think people who were fans of TechTV are going to watch G4? Think again. G4 is now dead along with TechTV.
We the consumer exist to make companies money. Companies should exist to provide us jobs.
If they only exist to make money, well then lets say screw big business and each of us start our own business.
Robot Wars sucks, Fresh Gear is ok, but TechTV was a cool channel. At least they are keeping Anime Unleashed, X-Play and the screen savers.
My Athlon64 512 megs of ram with 10kRPM SATA RAID drives, takes 2 seconds to start.
People just need to buy better harddrive setups. All software will load instantly if you have RAID, good CPU and decent amount of ram. Not to mention you can install applications instantly. It's the hardware which controls the speed of the software. Instead of worrying about the speed it runs on the slowest computer they should just make us upgrade.
I have a brand new athlon64 with 512 megs of ram and SATA RAID1 10k drives,
So far Netscape/Mozilla loads in 2 seconds. The problem is not the software, its the hardware. RAID should be the standard setup, and it should be raid 0+1
This is why they are suing people for stuff they should be purchasing but decided not to. This is why they want to ban file sharing and P2P. You should only be giving your money to them, not Napster, not Kazaa, not even directly to the artists.
We all know that China has one of the worlds lowest crime rates. So perhaps they do respect authority.
This is good and this is bad, its good because there's less wars, less terrorism, less crime. It's bad because there's less freedom.
Overall though the USA is no better, people at work never question authority. Everyone is anti government pro Boss, we kiss our bosses ass here and never question the word of the great boss at our job.
So in a way, the USA in the corporate world is no better when it comes to authority than China. I've never been pro authority, which is why I hated school and I can't stand the corporate world.
But there generally are two kinds of people, the ones who accept authority and the ones who can't. Generally the people who can't have a much harder time than the people who can, are more likely to drop out, or end up in prison.
It's not a cultural thing, its human nature for some people to respect authority and others not. In China however rebelling isn't an option because deviance is an American ideal. The rebels in China are quickly killed. Rebels in the USA are just locked in jail and then released after a while.
If the Black Panthers were hung, shot and murdered on national TV live, instead of just locked in jail people would think twice about challenging the government.
Perhaps this is why the Waco incident was on live TV.