As opposed to digging things like Lithium out of the ground, refining that ore, shipping the refined ore to manufacturers to be assembled into batteries, and then shipping those batteries to a the car manufacturer?
1) Unless you work for Nissan how do you know how much the Leaf is going to cost? From my web research it looks like the costs could be very similar
"All Nissan will say right now is that the car will be priced affordably, and in the range of a well-equipped C-class sedan. A well equipped C-class vehilce runs in the $28,000 to $35,000 range, without the $7500 tax credit the car will be expected to enjoy. If they are factoring that in, consider $35,500 to $42,500." http://www.allcarselectric.com/blog/1033846_2011-nissan-leaf-price
So if Nissan is including the $7500 tax credit in it's "C Class pricing" then it's going to be very similar in price to the Volt.
2) I've never seen gasoline gel in a tank. I've seen diesel do that though.
I'm really doubtful that Tesla's claims of 300 miles is going to hold up in the real world. By comparison the Volt is rated at 40 miles and the Nissan Leaf is rated at 100.
Has Tesla MoCo REALLY found a way to beat the next best competitor by 3 times?
I'm curious. How is it that the Primary user with a truckload of fancy gear has no internet access to query the database but the secondary user, who is very close by, does have internet access to query the database?
"If the Apple tablet can run iPhone apps it already has a huge advantage over the Microsoft tablet, more so if it can also run OS X apps."
Sir, I'm sure you'll find that the number of applications available for windows absolutely DWARFS the number of applications available for iPod/iPhone and OS x COMBINED!
I mean really, did you stop to think before you wrote that?:::boggle:::
My WinMo smartphones had applications and games available from places like handango years before the iPhone came along.
The app store is not new, it just seems so to johnny come latelys. It's the same with most of iPhones technology. It just seems new to people who weren't paying attention.
"And it is well known that Iran has actually not supported Hezbollah, contrary to popular American rhetoric."
Oh really? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hezbollah_of_Iran - "The Hezbollah, or Party of God, (also HizbAllah or Hizbullah) is an Iranian movement formed at the time of the Iranian Revolution to assist the Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini and his forces in consolidating power."
I'm trying to not be offensive but your viewpoint has left me incredulous! How do you say the things you do, which are in direct contradiction to well known and cited information, WITHOUT CITATION and then get modded to +5 insightful?
I think the reason you haven't seen things like this happen is because the consequences are too awful to contemplate, even for the terrorists. A couple of stunts like that would have us on the brink of turning the entire middle east into a glass parking lot. It's tough to be a big shot world terrorist leader getting zillions of headlines when everything is a smoking radioactive crater. If you think the U.S. military is on a jag now you probably couldn't imagine what would happen in response to attacks like that.
A couple of attacks like you suggest and the the term "lose its shit" would be too mild to describe the response. Seriously.
Maybe the original poster was arguing for just the CDMA version but I'm not. I'm saying that the cost of having a CDMA model, in addtion to the GSM models, is not back breaking.
Your rational is ignoring the reality that there are 14 bands for GSM ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GSM_frequency_bands ). GSM is not a monolithic technolgy. Since they're going to have to fiddle about with the onboard radio anyway why not have a model with a CDMA radio instead of a GSM one?
Nokia has been "protecting its patents" all along, through cross-licensing agreements with the handset manufacturers. It's know for fact that they've been engaging Apple in talks since at least last spring. It was likely earlier than that.
So dear Anonymous Coward, I don't know what the point of your post was.
Here in Wyoming, in the United States of America, I can be on a piece of property that's half days drive from the nearest town and get a stable EVDO connection AND make calls WITHOUT an external antenna.
Apparently the guys over at Verizon are smarter than the ones at Telstra! They've engineered it so I don't have to lug around an external antenna!
Also, you're talking out of your hat. People piss and moan about cellular service in the USA but it's NOT that bad. You are probably not familiar with Wyoming so here's a wikipedia link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wyoming . In short the only reason we're not THE lowest population density state is because Alaska is just so damn big.
Cellular service works here and it works surprisingly well considering how few people we have.
I've tried to contribute to OSS a few times doing documentation. I've either been blown off or had my updated documentation ignored. That stuff takes a significant amount of very tedious effort and to watch it languish and grow mold was more than I could take. I don't do it anymore.
Your other suggestions might be good, except for Project Management. God / FSM couldn't tell a herd of developers what to do and make it stick...not unless they control the paycheck.
When GM acquired at 50% stake in SAAB in 1989 the company had already been operating at a LOSS for several years. They decreased the time to build a car from 100 hours to 50-60 hours, increasing per unit profit!
Also don't overlook that for much of the period of GM "ownership" they actually had only %50 of the company. Peter Wallenberg / INVESTOR owned the other half!
Why SAABs demise is being blamed solely on GM is beyond me.
Not all of us prefer this. There are far too many Americans driving German auto's for this to be true, including the Audi in my own garage. Please don't make such a blanket statement.
SAAB hasn't turned a profit since ***BEFORE*** GM bought half of it in...1989! That's two over decades of losses! How long do you expect a non-profitable business to survive?
Take off the rose colored glasses and read the real history.
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As opposed to digging things like Lithium out of the ground, refining that ore, shipping the refined ore to manufacturers to be assembled into batteries, and then shipping those batteries to a the car manufacturer?
Why should batteries be cheaper again?
1) Unless you work for Nissan how do you know how much the Leaf is going to cost? From my web research it looks like the costs could be very similar
"All Nissan will say right now is that the car will be priced affordably, and in the range of a well-equipped C-class sedan. A well equipped C-class vehilce runs in the $28,000 to $35,000 range, without the $7500 tax credit the car will be expected to enjoy. If they are factoring that in, consider $35,500 to $42,500." http://www.allcarselectric.com/blog/1033846_2011-nissan-leaf-price
So if Nissan is including the $7500 tax credit in it's "C Class pricing" then it's going to be very similar in price to the Volt.
2) I've never seen gasoline gel in a tank. I've seen diesel do that though.
I'm really doubtful that Tesla's claims of 300 miles is going to hold up in the real world. By comparison the Volt is rated at 40 miles and the Nissan Leaf is rated at 100.
Has Tesla MoCo REALLY found a way to beat the next best competitor by 3 times?
You think people care about the privacy? If they do then why are services likes Google's so popular?
I'm curious. How is it that the Primary user with a truckload of fancy gear has no internet access to query the database but the secondary user, who is very close by, does have internet access to query the database?
:::blink:::
Say hooohaw?
"If the Apple tablet can run iPhone apps it already has a huge advantage over the Microsoft tablet, more so if it can also run OS X apps."
Sir, I'm sure you'll find that the number of applications available for windows absolutely DWARFS the number of applications available for iPod/iPhone and OS x COMBINED!
I mean really, did you stop to think before you wrote that? :::boggle:::
That's hilarious! My wife got a new LG Chocolate Touch for Christmas and IT has an FM radio built into it!
I'm interested in learning more about how the mechanics of a welfare state bringing economic boosts. Can you provide some material?
Apple didn't invent this!!!
My WinMo smartphones had applications and games available from places like handango years before the iPhone came along.
The app store is not new, it just seems so to johnny come latelys. It's the same with most of iPhones technology. It just seems new to people who weren't paying attention.
How can you say these things with a clear conscience? You're either misinformed or attempting to pull off one helluva a bald faced lie!
"Last I checked Iranians weren't training terrorists."
http://www.iranfocus.com/en/terrorism/exclusive-terrorist-training-camps-in-iran-05956.html - London, Feb. 27 – Iran Focus has obtained a list of 20 terrorist camps and centres run by Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC).
"And it is well known that Iran has actually not supported Hezbollah, contrary to popular American rhetoric."
Oh really? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hezbollah_of_Iran - "The Hezbollah, or Party of God, (also HizbAllah or Hizbullah) is an Iranian movement formed at the time of the Iranian Revolution to assist the Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini and his forces in consolidating power."
Or
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/18/world/africa/18iht-iran.2232363.html - "On Tuesday, Iran's rhetorical threats against Israel and its unswerving embrace of Hezbollah continued."
I'm trying to not be offensive but your viewpoint has left me incredulous! How do you say the things you do, which are in direct contradiction to well known and cited information, WITHOUT CITATION and then get modded to +5 insightful?
Help me out here.
I think the reason you haven't seen things like this happen is because the consequences are too awful to contemplate, even for the terrorists. A couple of stunts like that would have us on the brink of turning the entire middle east into a glass parking lot. It's tough to be a big shot world terrorist leader getting zillions of headlines when everything is a smoking radioactive crater. If you think the U.S. military is on a jag now you probably couldn't imagine what would happen in response to attacks like that.
A couple of attacks like you suggest and the the term "lose its shit" would be too mild to describe the response. Seriously.
This story comes to mind: http://www.dansimmons.com/news/message/2006_04.htm
Maybe the original poster was arguing for just the CDMA version but I'm not. I'm saying that the cost of having a CDMA model, in addtion to the GSM models, is not back breaking.
If you can blind dial on a virtual dialpad with consistent accuracy I am impressed. I cannot.
Your rational is ignoring the reality that there are 14 bands for GSM ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GSM_frequency_bands ). GSM is not a monolithic technolgy. Since they're going to have to fiddle about with the onboard radio anyway why not have a model with a CDMA radio instead of a GSM one?
It's really hard to blind dial with a virtual keypad.
The iPhone isn't getting down to a $50 price point anytime soon. It's quite possible that the Universe will expire from heat death before it happens.
Nokia has been "protecting its patents" all along, through cross-licensing agreements with the handset manufacturers. It's know for fact that they've been engaging Apple in talks since at least last spring. It was likely earlier than that.
So dear Anonymous Coward, I don't know what the point of your post was.
Here in Wyoming, in the United States of America, I can be on a piece of property that's half days drive from the nearest town and get a stable EVDO connection AND make calls WITHOUT an external antenna.
Apparently the guys over at Verizon are smarter than the ones at Telstra! They've engineered it so I don't have to lug around an external antenna!
Also, you're talking out of your hat. People piss and moan about cellular service in the USA but it's NOT that bad. You are probably not familiar with Wyoming so here's a wikipedia link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wyoming . In short the only reason we're not THE lowest population density state is because Alaska is just so damn big.
Cellular service works here and it works surprisingly well considering how few people we have.
I've tried to contribute to OSS a few times doing documentation. I've either been blown off or had my updated documentation ignored. That stuff takes a significant amount of very tedious effort and to watch it languish and grow mold was more than I could take. I don't do it anymore.
Your other suggestions might be good, except for Project Management. God / FSM couldn't tell a herd of developers what to do and make it stick...not unless they control the paycheck.
James, the elder half brother, was a son of Joseph's from a previous marriage.
Huh, I easily blew apart your whole theory. Sorry about that. :-D
In case you missed it a "half" sibling can come from either the mother OR the father's side.
Also, I don't have any references in my King James New Testament about "James the Jost" or him almost having Paul thrown from the walls of Jerusalem.
So Satire and Parody are protected under the law...except when they interfere with politics and/or business?
Is your country inside a political convention that it has free speech zones?
Where are you getting this from? The write up at: http://www.fundinguniverse.com/company-histories/Saab-Automobile-AB-Company-History.html
Show the EXACT OPPOSITE of what you just said.
When GM acquired at 50% stake in SAAB in 1989 the company had already been operating at a LOSS for several years. They decreased the time to build a car from 100 hours to 50-60 hours, increasing per unit profit!
Also don't overlook that for much of the period of GM "ownership" they actually had only %50 of the company. Peter Wallenberg / INVESTOR owned the other half!
Why SAABs demise is being blamed solely on GM is beyond me.
Not all of us prefer this. There are far too many Americans driving German auto's for this to be true, including the Audi in my own garage. Please don't make such a blanket statement.
SAAB hasn't turned a profit since ***BEFORE*** GM bought half of it in...1989! That's two over decades of losses! How long do you expect a non-profitable business to survive?
Take off the rose colored glasses and read the real history.
http://www.fundinguniverse.com/company-histories/Saab-Automobile-AB-Company-History.html
Where do you get "Turns to shit"?
The potential for that to happen is there but it certainly hasn't happened as of now.
I have a Motorola Droid and it's fantastic. It's far and away the best smartphone I've owned.