The problem you're going to have with "watermarking" the data in this fashion is keeping it in the file. Unlike Video or Audio what you really have here is a pile of text. Show names, descriptions, channel numbers, run times, start and stop times, whatever. It would be trivial to parse that back into strict text, grep/remove the watermark, and send the data out to someone else.
I'm not sure how you could keep a watermark in a file when the file has no layers to hide it in.
I'll write a snap-in for MythTV that looks to see if you have a Zap2IT feed. If it does that module will take your data and upload it to a repository somewhere. Again, perhaps a torrent file. If it doesn't find a Zap2IT feed it goes to the same repository that people with the stream upload to and it downloads what is available. If it doesn't find what you need it prompts you to go get the Zap2IT subscription. When you do, and you will, it will detect your Zap2IT subscription and then start sending that data up to the repository.
I would guess that it would take someone with the right skills about 24-48 hours of programming time to make this work. From there it is easily installed by the end user as a package from some repository or another and presto, your data is not only being pirated easily but also AUTOMATICALLY.
Under this scheme no one person would have to pay the entire sum for all of the data, only one person in each market.
Tell me again why Zap2IT should even go down this road? Their rules are not going to be enforceable and if they try and constrain the data sharing they are going to be right where the *iaa's are at.
I was happy to find your clear, concise, comment down here all by itself. It makes it easy for a clean response.
Let's say that MythTV implemented your paid service plan and began charging the princely sum of $2 per month for the data.
I would give it all of 7 days before that paid for data became available for free. Someone, somewhere, would buy the data for $2 per month and load it up for others to have free of charge. It would be a daily torrent that you could pull, or a streamed RSS feed, a static layout site with a downloadable screen scraper, or any one of a dozen other ways I can think.
So now instead of a million dollar revenue stream you'd get a thousand dollar revenue stream coming from the 500 users who would actually be wiling to pay when a free source is available.
If you can answer the question of how to prevent the above scenario from happening I can put you in touch with some content providers who will pay REAL money for your idea. The kind of money that allows people to retire for life...at the age of twenty.
So we're going to spend a moderate amount of cash on protecting the delivery system to NYC customers. I've got no problem with this plan as it is, but it doesn't go anywhere NEAR far enough.
For instance, what about the supply of raw materials to "make" that electricity?
That last time I checked something like 30% of the electrical power on the East Coast was being generated through the use of coal that comes from Wyoming! Snarl up the rail lines in North Platte, Nebraska (the largest rail yard in the world) and that supply will come to a grinding halt.
There's a hundred more examples I could give, but the common point is the same. There's little point in securing the end delivery system if you can kill the thing by disrupting the supply of necessary raw material.
So building a special armored power delivery system for NYC is great, but it's really just another feel good measure that won't enhance anyones safety or security.
A good many GM vehicles go over 300,000 miles. Especially trucks and other 'heavy' vehicles. As for the hummer specifically I'll bet I could find you a dozen before the end of the day with over 300,000 miles on them.
I realize that it's trendy to bash on the American auto industry, but don't let a popular meme ruin your discipline for the truth.
This would be great...if I could get money into my allofmp3.com account. Since the RIAA twisted arms at VISA I haven't found a way to recharge my account. Are an US citizens still able to do this?
This is my thought, and greatest fear, as well. You 'sign' a contract on this fancy paper, which most people probably will not recognize as being r/w, and then an unscrupulous operator changes the terms of the contract sometime later.
You made excellent points and it shows in your +5 rating. I'm in much the same position as you are and I think you hit the nail squarely on the head. This 4+ year old computer is still doing everything that it needs to do, so why spend the $$$ on buying a new one?
Teh 3v1l "Dubya" had nothing to do with people's lack of confidence in electronic voting. The MEDIA, whiner-baby Democrats, and conspiracy theorists did. They all charged around like drunken rhinoceros, bellowing loudly, waiving their appendages, and making *lots* of accusations that were never proven aside from a few minor cases.
a deep shade of skeptical. In fact I'm borderline disgusted. A claim like this should ONLY be made when at least an engineering sample is available for review.
I'm tired of "too good to be true" products whose primary goal is to draw VC.
I mostly agree with you, but somewhere in the back of my head I'm hearing a Government Prosecutor making the argument that the advertising is being done on that specific site to reach those specific readers. With targeted online advertising this isn't so far fetched either.
Now you and I may agree that this argument is tenuous at best, but tell me...can you honestly believe that it WON'T be tried?
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Oh, she finally moved it into the basement? :-D
The problem you're going to have with "watermarking" the data in this fashion is keeping it in the file. Unlike Video or Audio what you really have here is a pile of text. Show names, descriptions, channel numbers, run times, start and stop times, whatever. It would be trivial to parse that back into strict text, grep/remove the watermark, and send the data out to someone else.
I'm not sure how you could keep a watermark in a file when the file has no layers to hide it in.
No way to efficiently pirate this data? Really?
How about this:
I'll write a snap-in for MythTV that looks to see if you have a Zap2IT feed. If it does that module will take your data and upload it to a repository somewhere. Again, perhaps a torrent file. If it doesn't find a Zap2IT feed it goes to the same repository that people with the stream upload to and it downloads what is available. If it doesn't find what you need it prompts you to go get the Zap2IT subscription. When you do, and you will, it will detect your Zap2IT subscription and then start sending that data up to the repository.
I would guess that it would take someone with the right skills about 24-48 hours of programming time to make this work. From there it is easily installed by the end user as a package from some repository or another and presto, your data is not only being pirated easily but also AUTOMATICALLY.
Under this scheme no one person would have to pay the entire sum for all of the data, only one person in each market.
Tell me again why Zap2IT should even go down this road? Their rules are not going to be enforceable and if they try and constrain the data sharing they are going to be right where the *iaa's are at.
I was happy to find your clear, concise, comment down here all by itself. It makes it easy for a clean response.
Let's say that MythTV implemented your paid service plan and began charging the princely sum of $2 per month for the data.
I would give it all of 7 days before that paid for data became available for free. Someone, somewhere, would buy the data for $2 per month and load it up for others to have free of charge. It would be a daily torrent that you could pull, or a streamed RSS feed, a static layout site with a downloadable screen scraper, or any one of a dozen other ways I can think.
So now instead of a million dollar revenue stream you'd get a thousand dollar revenue stream coming from the 500 users who would actually be wiling to pay when a free source is available.
If you can answer the question of how to prevent the above scenario from happening I can put you in touch with some content providers who will pay REAL money for your idea. The kind of money that allows people to retire for life...at the age of twenty.
Huh?
mount.cifs from an Unbuntu Feisty box works even against a fully patched Windows 2003 server
I'd pay money to see her find Claudia Black or Amanda Tapping in her shower though! ;-)
Sounds like a variant of "If you've done nothing wrong then you've nothing to fear!" to me.
If you really want to enhance the electric grid against natural and man made attack we need to decentralize power generation. It's just that simple.
So we're going to spend a moderate amount of cash on protecting the delivery system to NYC customers. I've got no problem with this plan as it is, but it doesn't go anywhere NEAR far enough.
For instance, what about the supply of raw materials to "make" that electricity?
That last time I checked something like 30% of the electrical power on the East Coast was being generated through the use of coal that comes from Wyoming! Snarl up the rail lines in North Platte, Nebraska (the largest rail yard in the world) and that supply will come to a grinding halt.
There's a hundred more examples I could give, but the common point is the same. There's little point in securing the end delivery system if you can kill the thing by disrupting the supply of necessary raw material.
So building a special armored power delivery system for NYC is great, but it's really just another feel good measure that won't enhance anyones safety or security.
As an aside, my State of Wyoming license issued in 2005 doesn't have a magnetic stripe on the back. How many cards out there don't?
Oh thanks, I just spewed coffee into my keyboard!
Geography isn't a real strong point of yours is it?
Only on a geek site would a combustion engine be described as a "black box" while processor architecture is considered open!
:)
As a geek myself I've forgotten more about combustion engines and how they work then I've ever known about processor architecture.
Thanks for the chuckle.
Is this post from the mysterious future?
The last I checked it's March 2007. How could you have sales numbers from the *LAST* quarter of 2007 already?
A good many GM vehicles go over 300,000 miles. Especially trucks and other 'heavy' vehicles. As for the hummer specifically I'll bet I could find you a dozen before the end of the day with over 300,000 miles on them.
I realize that it's trendy to bash on the American auto industry, but don't let a popular meme ruin your discipline for the truth.
This would be great...if I could get money into my allofmp3.com account. Since the RIAA twisted arms at VISA I haven't found a way to recharge my account. Are an US citizens still able to do this?
This is my thought, and greatest fear, as well. You 'sign' a contract on this fancy paper, which most people probably will not recognize as being r/w, and then an unscrupulous operator changes the terms of the contract sometime later.
No thank you.
You made excellent points and it shows in your +5 rating. I'm in much the same position as you are and I think you hit the nail squarely on the head. This 4+ year old computer is still doing everything that it needs to do, so why spend the $$$ on buying a new one?
Are obviously starting to make Microsoft worried. Good. :)
I wish I had mod points for you. That was one of the more insightful, and truthful, things I've read all day.
Teh 3v1l "Dubya" had nothing to do with people's lack of confidence in electronic voting. The MEDIA, whiner-baby Democrats, and conspiracy theorists did. They all charged around like drunken rhinoceros, bellowing loudly, waiving their appendages, and making *lots* of accusations that were never proven aside from a few minor cases.
No, "Dubya" had nothing to do with it.
a deep shade of skeptical. In fact I'm borderline disgusted. A claim like this should ONLY be made when at least an engineering sample is available for review.
I'm tired of "too good to be true" products whose primary goal is to draw VC.
Here in Wyoming they are usually created by an idiot with a backhoe. I can't say for other parts of the country. :)
I STRENUOUSLY disagree with your assertion.
I am completely confident that given enough time and motivation that man can build anything that it can imagine.
I mostly agree with you, but somewhere in the back of my head I'm hearing a Government Prosecutor making the argument that the advertising is being done on that specific site to reach those specific readers. With targeted online advertising this isn't so far fetched either.
Now you and I may agree that this argument is tenuous at best, but tell me...can you honestly believe that it WON'T be tried?
I thought so.