One of my fellow Slashdot readers posted this link. The LSB faq says many distros, including a few non-RPM based ones, agreed on RPM being the standard package format. Debian, Storm, and Corel Linux were the distros named. Not only are they all Debian based, but Storm and Corel have been discontiuned for a while now
Even more interesting is the future packaging plans of the lsb. The faq states intent to implement a deb/rpm packaging format. Now this is good for Debian (probally the sole reason they agreed to rpm), but where does that leave other non-rpm based distros? Slackware is my distro de jour, yet I havene't read any plans, or heard of any consideration in the slightest for the first (and possibly the fastest) distrobution of Linux.
1) No distro is perfect, but RedHat had its run for being known as one of the most problematic distros. In fact, there were numerous complaints from programmers (wish I woulda saved that article) in regards to RedHat not properly following the Unix File Hierachy Standard, or whatever you call it.
2) Actually, SuSE only had about 4 directories in 'opt' - KDE, Gnome, Mozilla, and OpenOffice. Slackware has even fewer, only having KDE and Gnome. But honestly, Having necessary system files and libraries and optional software mixed all together makes more since to you ? Even Windows doesn't do this. Don't be biased. If LongHorn is released tommorow with the structure to install Mozilla Thunderbird in 'C:\WINNT\system32', there will be endless flames about how stupid/messy/unorganized Windows is.
This is personal bias is I've ever heard it. Sense making install dirs? Having Gnome, KDE, and the kitchen sink blended together by installing everything under '/usr' is sensical to you ? IMHO, nothing is more sensical than the 'opt' directory that Slackware and SuSE implement.
And by consistant installation you must mean consitatnly problematic. Instead of leaving packages out, RedHat was one of the distros who shipped "crippled" packages such as libavfile or MPlayer to name a few. Then when the programs didn't work with your multimedia files, you had no idea why, because you had all the required files installed. And don't even get me started on the broken glib packages that RedHat was notorious for having, constantly causing problems for builders. Not to mention their personal bias towards Gnome leaving you with terrible KDE support. Heck, I remeber when RedHat was one of the distros not recommended for newbies (7.x series) because of their distro-specific quirks and other misc problems.
I used RedHat for a couple of years myself, but that doesn't prevent me from seeing it for what it is. If anything, it aids my vision.
Are the temperature specs posted in this picture really accurate ? That's interesting, because I'm about to upgrade an old pc. The currect case is ok, but it has mediocre ventilation, so I was going with a slower processer (say an Athlon 1800+) to reduce heat. By these specs, I'd be better off with the Athlon 2800+ (which was the one I wanted anyways...)
I transfer Sprint phones all the time, not only for myself (I broke 2 phones in the last 2 months) but for family members as well. Not only do they do it for free over the phone, I've walked in a Radio Shack and a Sprint store and had them do it for free there as well - and I didn't even buy the phone from the Sprint store. The $35 fee that you speak of applies only to activating a new service, not a new phone.
1)With all the lawsuit attempts and legislation in the works, we still haven't seen filesharing development dwindle as much as one would expect.
2)The RIAA and their comrads are lawsuit crazy, but you haven't seen any "cease and decist" orders issued out to projets like this. A bigger thing to note is the fact that everyone seems to be a target - except companies like LimeWire who actually sell the P2P service and make money off of it (they get paid for the ads in the free version as well).
3)How the heck can any judge take these cases seriously, when, like one of my fellow posters made notice of, companies like Sony pratice the business tatics that they do. Their electronics division sells the mp3 players, but the record companies that they own forbid you to transfer the songs to mp3 players.
There have been a number of important issues addressed, but I didn't see the most important one answered: Will using IE's rendering engine enable the AOL Browser to visit websites that require IE ? If it can't do this, then I'm sorry, the browser is just another useless option for a lot of people.
Didn't you see Redhat's name listed at the bottom ? Redhat, SuSE, and Mandrake were actually the first three to support it. RedHat Linux has been LSB complaint since version 7.3.
Be leary of SuSE Personal verions. I bought a boxed set of SuSE Personal (8.2 I think). Now I can try to understand them not being shipped with developer apps such as KDevelop, Anjuta and such - but they aren't even shipping them with the devel packages. If you ever want to build anything from source, that becomes quite the problem. Don't get me wrong, you can download them off of the suse ftp, but that's no picnic either. You can easily get caught in a loop of looking for one package after another until you have all the files you need.
Just my 2 cents...
It's not about popularity, it's about Microsoft. To gain the right to ship OEM verions of Windows, most computer manufacturers had to sign a contract, part of which states that they can't ship any other OS with their hardware. At the time, Linux wasn't nearly as big as it is now, so companies didn't realize they were signing away their rights as much as they were. In fact, I think Dell is really screwed because I believe they also have such an agreement with Intel as well.
I see people repeadily posting various prices yet everyone seems to forget something: the nick-nacks. The miscelleaous parts quickly add up. For example, no one has yet to mention the cables - yet alone things like copper shims, case fans, or thermal compound for the Athlon XP's that they listed. They tend to run hot you know, and they're defintely going to generate a lot heat with the some of the vigorious task taht have been listed (gaming being a good example). Very few people even bothered to mention a CPU fan and/or heat sink, yet they clearly suggested an OEM processor. I'm guessing they don't understand the difference between oem and retail.
If gmail hadn't been introduced, and yahoo hadn't gotten the increase in popularity (even more so than it already had) over the last year like it did, do you think MSN would have still done this ?
And they wonder why we complain about monopolies so much...
You consider the possibility of your performance problem being distro specific ? For example, SuSE has, in my opinion, the most eyecandy and prettiest set of config tools. However, it is noticibly slower, and if you merely read the System Requirements, they are noticibly more than say Slackware Linux.
As far as your expierences with WinXP, well you must be using DDR7 for memory, because I've had problems with it using 256mb, so how did you get such performance with only 128 ?
While is it obvious that IE is the most widely used browser by a landslide, how do they really know that Mozilla has such a miniscule user base ? Mozilla is shipped with every version of Linux and BSD. Linux and BSD can be copied freely. If no one really knows how many people are using Linux, then how do they know how many are using Mozilla ?
If their numbers are based on how a browser identifies, then consider this: a large percentange of non IE browser users (such as Konqueror and Opera users) switch their User Agent to Internet Explorer just to access certain websites, so who's to say who is really using IE ?
Actually, Java, Flash, and Real Player (as well as pdf support with Adobe Acrobat) all come pre-installed and plugged in with Mozilla with SuSE 8.2 boxed sets. After installing, all you have to do is simply go to ftp.suse.com, they always provide packages for the latest release of Mozilla. Simply install the rpms, and voilla - you have Mozilla 1.4 with those plug-ins installed.
Can anyone tell me what the heck that SysRq stands for under the Prt Scrn button ? I thought it stood for System Requirements, but when I press it, it doesn't tell me what processor and OS I'm going to need to play Doom 3...
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One of my fellow Slashdot readers posted this link. The LSB faq says many distros, including a few non-RPM based ones, agreed on RPM being the standard package format. Debian, Storm, and Corel Linux were the distros named. Not only are they all Debian based, but Storm and Corel have been discontiuned for a while now
Even more interesting is the future packaging plans of the lsb. The faq states intent to implement a deb/rpm packaging format. Now this is good for Debian (probally the sole reason they agreed to rpm), but where does that leave other non-rpm based distros? Slackware is my distro de jour, yet I havene't read any plans, or heard of any consideration in the slightest for the first (and possibly the fastest) distrobution of Linux.
1) No distro is perfect, but RedHat had its run for being known as one of the most problematic distros. In fact, there were numerous complaints from programmers (wish I woulda saved that article) in regards to RedHat not properly following the Unix File Hierachy Standard, or whatever you call it.
2) Actually, SuSE only had about 4 directories in 'opt' - KDE, Gnome, Mozilla, and OpenOffice. Slackware has even fewer, only having KDE and Gnome. But honestly, Having necessary system files and libraries and optional software mixed all together makes more since to you ? Even Windows doesn't do this. Don't be biased. If LongHorn is released tommorow with the structure to install Mozilla Thunderbird in 'C:\WINNT\system32', there will be endless flames about how stupid/messy/unorganized Windows is.
This is personal bias is I've ever heard it. Sense making install dirs? Having Gnome, KDE, and the kitchen sink blended together by installing everything under '/usr' is sensical to you ? IMHO, nothing is more sensical than the 'opt' directory that Slackware and SuSE implement.
And by consistant installation you must mean consitatnly problematic. Instead of leaving packages out, RedHat was one of the distros who shipped "crippled" packages such as libavfile or MPlayer to name a few. Then when the programs didn't work with your multimedia files, you had no idea why, because you had all the required files installed. And don't even get me started on the broken glib packages that RedHat was notorious for having, constantly causing problems for builders. Not to mention their personal bias towards Gnome leaving you with terrible KDE support. Heck, I remeber when RedHat was one of the distros not recommended for newbies (7.x series) because of their distro-specific quirks and other misc problems.
I used RedHat for a couple of years myself, but that doesn't prevent me from seeing it for what it is. If anything, it aids my vision.
Are the temperature specs posted in this picture really accurate ? That's interesting, because I'm about to upgrade an old pc. The currect case is ok, but it has mediocre ventilation, so I was going with a slower processer (say an Athlon 1800+) to reduce heat. By these specs, I'd be better off with the Athlon 2800+ (which was the one I wanted anyways...)
I transfer Sprint phones all the time, not only for myself (I broke 2 phones in the last 2 months) but for family members as well. Not only do they do it for free over the phone, I've walked in a Radio Shack and a Sprint store and had them do it for free there as well - and I didn't even buy the phone from the Sprint store. The $35 fee that you speak of applies only to activating a new service, not a new phone.
1)With all the lawsuit attempts and legislation in the works, we still haven't seen filesharing development dwindle as much as one would expect.
2)The RIAA and their comrads are lawsuit crazy, but you haven't seen any "cease and decist" orders issued out to projets like this. A bigger thing to note is the fact that everyone seems to be a target - except companies like LimeWire who actually sell the P2P service and make money off of it (they get paid for the ads in the free version as well).
3)How the heck can any judge take these cases seriously, when, like one of my fellow posters made notice of, companies like Sony pratice the business tatics that they do. Their electronics division sells the mp3 players, but the record companies that they own forbid you to transfer the songs to mp3 players.
Go Figure...
There have been a number of important issues addressed, but I didn't see the most important one answered: Will using IE's rendering engine enable the AOL Browser to visit websites that require IE ? If it can't do this, then I'm sorry, the browser is just another useless option for a lot of people.
Didn't you see Redhat's name listed at the bottom ? Redhat, SuSE, and Mandrake were actually the first three to support it. RedHat Linux has been LSB complaint since version 7.3.
Be leary of SuSE Personal verions. I bought a boxed set of SuSE Personal (8.2 I think). Now I can try to understand them not being shipped with developer apps such as KDevelop, Anjuta and such - but they aren't even shipping them with the devel packages. If you ever want to build anything from source, that becomes quite the problem. Don't get me wrong, you can download them off of the suse ftp, but that's no picnic either. You can easily get caught in a loop of looking for one package after another until you have all the files you need. Just my 2 cents...
It's not about popularity, it's about Microsoft. To gain the right to ship OEM verions of Windows, most computer manufacturers had to sign a contract, part of which states that they can't ship any other OS with their hardware. At the time, Linux wasn't nearly as big as it is now, so companies didn't realize they were signing away their rights as much as they were. In fact, I think Dell is really screwed because I believe they also have such an agreement with Intel as well.
I see people repeadily posting various prices yet everyone seems to forget something: the nick-nacks. The miscelleaous parts quickly add up. For example, no one has yet to mention the cables - yet alone things like copper shims, case fans, or thermal compound for the Athlon XP's that they listed. They tend to run hot you know, and they're defintely going to generate a lot heat with the some of the vigorious task taht have been listed (gaming being a good example). Very few people even bothered to mention a CPU fan and/or heat sink, yet they clearly suggested an OEM processor. I'm guessing they don't understand the difference between oem and retail.
If gmail hadn't been introduced, and yahoo hadn't gotten the increase in popularity (even more so than it already had) over the last year like it did, do you think MSN would have still done this ? And they wonder why we complain about monopolies so much...
You consider the possibility of your performance problem being distro specific ? For example, SuSE has, in my opinion, the most eyecandy and prettiest set of config tools. However, it is noticibly slower, and if you merely read the System Requirements, they are noticibly more than say Slackware Linux. As far as your expierences with WinXP, well you must be using DDR7 for memory, because I've had problems with it using 256mb, so how did you get such performance with only 128 ?
While is it obvious that IE is the most widely used browser by a landslide, how do they really know that Mozilla has such a miniscule user base ? Mozilla is shipped with every version of Linux and BSD. Linux and BSD can be copied freely. If no one really knows how many people are using Linux, then how do they know how many are using Mozilla ? If their numbers are based on how a browser identifies, then consider this: a large percentange of non IE browser users (such as Konqueror and Opera users) switch their User Agent to Internet Explorer just to access certain websites, so who's to say who is really using IE ?
Actually, Java, Flash, and Real Player (as well as pdf support with Adobe Acrobat) all come pre-installed and plugged in with Mozilla with SuSE 8.2 boxed sets. After installing, all you have to do is simply go to ftp.suse.com, they always provide packages for the latest release of Mozilla. Simply install the rpms, and voilla - you have Mozilla 1.4 with those plug-ins installed.
Can anyone tell me what the heck that SysRq stands for under the Prt Scrn button ? I thought it stood for System Requirements, but when I press it, it doesn't tell me what processor and OS I'm going to need to play Doom 3...