I'd suggest you to change your idiotic signature -- otherwise you yourself look like an asshole. Geesh. They ordered to kidnap that poor bastard Vanunu almost 20 years ago!. Get some rest already. The guy was a traitor and an idiot. The government in Israel has changed 20 times since then. You, for God's sake, have your own British government - call them assholes. So stop your childish curses already!
Well, again putting all the blame on Jews, buddy?!?! I mean, Arabs are all white and fluffy and only Israel is the source of all hostility in the region, huh? I have a news for you: you should first ask your Arab brothers to stop terror activities - and the hostilities in the region will cease automatically. Just give it a try - you'll see.
What, Sharon is an all-evil monster? What, when there were left-wing governments in Israel, Arabs didn't carry deadly terror bombings in public buses, schools, discos and supermarkets?
If I weren't a Jew, I would say, Jesus Christ! Every time an oil-related topic appears on/., immediately emerges a moron with his all-time agenda: getting rid of Bush-Blair-Sharon as panacea of all world troubles. Enough already!
None of Arab (not Palestinian - that's a fake term) ARE CUT F*CKING OFF THE REST OF THE WORLD. Your media seems to lie to you or you're very much interested to spread this misinformation. They're cut off the vilages and cities populated by Jews, that's for sure -- so that their inhabitants couldn't carry out bombings and shooting attacks against the latter. And no matter are these Jewish towns/villages legal or illegal (that's another bullshit term. Is NewYork or Berlin a legal settlement?) their inhabitans lives are protected under Geneva convention and are MUCH MUCH more valuable than ability of some Arab bastarts to carry out explosive belts into neighboring shopping mall.
Hamas commit terrorist acts. But so do their enemies
This is bad analogy. What Hamas does is targeted agains innocent civilian population. What Israeli Army does is targeted agains Hamas. I suppose, even your.iq(tm) is enough to get the difference?
While criticism of Israel is a legitimate thing, one-sided and biased anti-Israel position is a different issue. Israel is nowadays a world collective Jew to be conveniently blamed for all world problems from global warming to poverty in Africa. It is very convenient for antisemites today to disseminate their views under disguise of "just criticism of Israel".
As to the last paragraph regarding whether the USA should sell Israel down the river to buy peace and calm from Islamic Nazism - it's for Americans to decide.
Don't forget, however, that Europe tried to appease Hitler in 1938 by giving away Czhechoslovakia to be dismembered and finally conquered by Germany. Munich Agreement became the shameful culmination of their (Europe) refusal to confront Nazi aggression - so they got WWII. The current situation is strikingly similar to that of 1938. Again, the West is willing to sacrifice one small country in an attempt to appease the monster, this time the Islamo-Nazism.
As an old saying goes, - the main lesson the History teaches us is that the History doesn't teach us any lessons.
Dude, the so-called "Israeli occupation" is decried daily and hourly throughout all the world media, forums, organization and what not. I read and hear about more condemnations of Israeli reactions to Arab terror than those against the terror itself. Did UN General Assembly ever condemned killing innocent Israeli civilians by Arab fanatics?
So your question is hypocritic at best.
And while we are at it, what IDF does is trying to protect their own civilians from Arab terror. Should moderate Jewish outcry about it? I doubt it, but still, there's a LOT of left-wing and pro-Arab Jewish activists who do (ever heard about Peace Now?). Much, much more American Jews are anti-Israeli than American Muslims are anti-radical-Islamists.
I hate those weared out cliches used instead of facts and proofs. "Brutal occupation" -- gimme a break!
The fear that the US government has created of Arabic and muslim people is not all that dissimilar from the fear that the Nazi government of Germany created of Jewish people. Please note though that I do not believe that this is their intent.
Do American confiscate Arabic posessions? Do they put all Arabs into concentration camps and gas chambers? You Arabs should stop exploiting Holocaust in your own dirty political purposes (and don't pretend you don't know that Mufty Al-Husseini of Jerusalem was a big friend and supporter of Hitler)
because Israel's alleged WMD doesn't represent a threat to the West - it only serves as a restraint measure against Arab neighbors to eliminate Israel.
Please count how many of them are civilians and how many are militants (=terrorists). Then compare.
Good old Amnisty International counts them all equally -- even those Arab terrorists who blow themselves in laboratories while preparing explosives (aimed at Israeli civilians, by the way).
As to European Union, gimme a break! EU is the culmination of European leftist bureaucracy funded by Arab oil money. And frightened by growing Islamic population in their own countries (France = 20%, Belgium = 10%) etc.
David Yallop's book is only suitable as a toilet paper and he hasn't proved anything. However, each antisemite has his own "protocols of elders of zion" to believe in. So enjoy reading that piece of shit. Don't forget the blood of christian babies used for baking matsos.
Now, you're telling Arabs are now so brave as not to fear to kill teenagers at a disco or granmas going back home from shopping at the city market? You are calling that "extreme measures"? That is, you consider them a perfectly justified and moral?
I call this losing human nature. And it is caused not by "the decades of brutal treatment by the Israeli Army", but by
decades of anti-Jewish hysteria, brainwashing and imprinting hatred into brains of Arab kids (starting from kindergarten); this hasn't stopped even after the ill-fated Oslo accords had been signed where Arafat pledged to stop incitement agains Jews and Israel;
oil money poured into terrorist training camps, amunition, and anti-Israel propaganda
support by Western leftists, anarchists, communists and antisemites
pro-Arab position of most Western media conglomerates (CNN, Reuters, AFP, UPI, BBC) which openly glorify and justify Arab terrorism and blackpaints Israel counter-terrorist measures (and anything Israel does to protect their citizen)
And this decades long song about desperation! Aren't you yourself tired of it? Have you ever heard of what it really was to live in a real ghetto, say, a Warsaw ghetto? Or to be put into a real concentration camp, like Auschwitz? Without UNRWA or UNIFIL or anyone to protect you? Have you ever heard of Babiy Yar in Kiev, Ukraine (former USSR) where entire Jewish population of 180,000 people was literally murdered (shot and buried in common graves)?
I am not surprised that Arab propaganda managed to take the notion of Holocaust and turn it back against the real Holocaust victims. Modern Arab political thought is based on patologic lies and chutzpa. What I am surprised is to how they managed to poison brains of millions of people around the world to believe that Israel is devil incarnation, root of world evil and the reason of all world problems and disasters.
Just for a change, think about starving Ruanda kids or millions of christians murdered in Congo. These are really starving and really murdered. And then think twice before talking about brutality of Israelis who have to check ambulances at block posts so as to prevent "Palestinians" from bringing explosives and guns into Israeli cities.
"ghettos, " -
bullshit. They should stop terror attacks agains Israeli civilians to enjoy freedom of movement between their cities. Each time the Israeli army lifts closure - bang! - next day we get school bus blown up or a crowd of shoppers in a mall. You get the idea. Tell that to your Arab brothers. They should stop killing Jews. That's a precondition.
"building walls around them" -
we're building walls around ourselves, you stupid moron! so that poor Arabs wouldn't send bombers to our own cities.
"and sniping children when they step out of the house"
bullshit and blatant lie. Arabs are killing Jewish children on purpose. Those Arab kids who get killed are victims of the tactics chosen by their own Islamic Jihad bandits who operate agains Israeli forces from within populated areas (which is violation of Geneva convention) And there is proven record of cases when they provoked killing their own civilians or killed them themselves to put the blame onto Israelis (and they invited CNN and Reuters journalists beforehand, too!)
Go blow yourself, moron!
"Then I guess we'll be taking out Israel next, for all the UN resolutions they've broken/ignored?"
you mean biased unbalanced resolution imposed by Arab and Islamic antidemocratic regimes and those depending on their oil?
|> There is significant anger at the US'
|> diplomatic policies which support and defend
|> Israel, a state which is in defiance of more
|> UN Resolutions than Iraq ever was, and one
|> which unlike Iraq was founded illegally and
|> in defiance of commonly-accepted rights.
I beg your pardon?!
Israel was founded prefectly legally and in accordance with a UN Resolution of 1947.
Which resolution was rejected by all Arab countries and they keep defying THAT resolution by denying the right of the State of Israel to exist. And I believe they should first accept that resolution and only then to require that Israel would obey theirs resolutions (most of which are by General Assembly and as such aren't mandatory anyway).
And, by the way, what is now Iraq was part of Ottoman Empire until WWI then under British rule till 1932, just like Israel (founded in 1948). Why on Earth that makes Iraq more legal than Israel - is beyon comprehension.
"""Israel banning video games that label palastine as a nation before it was taken over in 1948 ?
"""
The name 'Palestine' (and not palastine you illiterate bastard) was given by Roman conquerors to the territories (The Judeah Kingdom) occupied by Roman army and turned into a province of the Roman Empire. Which (the province) was conquered later in succession, by Crusaders, Ottoman Empire, and finally, by British Empire. (By the way, Britain was given mandate to rule the Palestine by the League of Nations with specific assignment to promote establishement of a national home for Jews in the region, which it didn't move a figer for)
All these centuries the region was populated by many nations (e.g Armenians, Greeks). Although Jews were expelled from most of the area by Romans, the still kept continuous presense in some towns (e.g. Safed). The Jewish population started to increase in the late 1800s and continued to grow under British rule.
Now, unfortunately, the term Palestinians is stolen by Arab propaganda to denote only Arab habitans of Palestine which is not correct technically, historically and morally.
What we have:
(1) Extreme Leftist filmmaker
(2) Propaganda Movie expressing "proper" political views (=Leftist)
(3) Most of Festival Jury consists of Left-biased American or WestEuropean Bohema figures.
Now, the result is rather predictable.
I wonder, would a movie, say, made by an Israeli Jewish author about Israeli victims of Arab terror war, however genial, win an award at this noble forum? I doubt so.
This is a purely political move by Western far-Left and among other thing, this denotes death of Kahn festival as a cultural event.
Next prize goes to a North Korean movie, for sure.
Oh, gimme a break. I just love when people make all extremist equal. I still have to hear about a Jewish extremist to blow up a school bus full of kids or to cut off a head of a captured POW. There are extremists AND extremists. And islamic extremists are the most disgusting.
"It is to do with occupation, repression and desparation. "
Bullshit. It is to do with hatred, extremism and fanatism indoctrinated in children from the age 0 troughout the entire Islamic world.
And please spell it despEration.
Displacement of Arabs was caused by wars against Israel initiated by neighboring Arab countries.
And mass-killing of Palestinians is purely and entirely your fantasy inspired by pro-Arab mass-media brain-washing coverage of Arab-Israeli conflict. Unless you are an Arab yourself - then it has been being implanted into your brain throughout all the educational, entertainment and information system in your country.
Too bad.
Well, in a socialist country much more things are much more controlled by the government (=the ruling party) than in any capitalist country. Take a look at North Korea or Cuba for example. And that with added benefit of poor economics.
I know - I used to live in Soviet Russia.
any news mentioning the word "Israel" is inevitably followed by a boringly long chain of pro-Arab propaganda posts? Come on, could you guys concentrate on the topic for God's (or shall I say Allah's) sake?
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I'd suggest you to change your idiotic signature -- otherwise you yourself look like an asshole. Geesh. They ordered to kidnap that poor bastard Vanunu almost 20 years ago!. Get some rest already. The guy was a traitor and an idiot. The government in Israel has changed 20 times since then. You, for God's sake, have your own British government - call them assholes. So stop your childish curses already!
/., you know!
People can be really annoying on
MPAA = My Parents Are Aliens
Well, again putting all the blame on Jews, buddy?!?! I mean, Arabs are all white and fluffy and only Israel is the source of all hostility in the region, huh? I have a news for you: you should first ask your Arab brothers to stop terror activities - and the hostilities in the region will cease automatically. Just give it a try - you'll see.
/., immediately emerges a moron with his all-time agenda: getting rid of Bush-Blair-Sharon as panacea of all world troubles. Enough already!
What, Sharon is an all-evil monster? What, when there were left-wing governments in Israel, Arabs didn't carry deadly terror bombings in public buses, schools, discos and supermarkets?
If I weren't a Jew, I would say, Jesus Christ! Every time an oil-related topic appears on
None of Arab (not Palestinian - that's a fake term) ARE CUT F*CKING OFF THE REST OF THE WORLD. Your media seems to lie to you or you're very much interested to spread this misinformation. They're cut off the vilages and cities populated by Jews, that's for sure -- so that their inhabitants couldn't carry out bombings and shooting attacks against the latter. And no matter are these Jewish towns/villages legal or illegal (that's another bullshit term. Is NewYork or Berlin a legal settlement?) their inhabitans lives are protected under Geneva convention and are MUCH MUCH more valuable than ability of some Arab bastarts to carry out explosive belts into neighboring shopping mall.
This is bad analogy. What Hamas does is targeted agains innocent civilian population. What Israeli Army does is targeted agains Hamas. I suppose, even your
It's "SchoolLinux", not SkoleLinux... what the hell language is this guy speaking?
Norwegian, maybe?
While criticism of Israel is a legitimate thing, one-sided and biased anti-Israel position is a different issue. Israel is nowadays a world collective Jew to be conveniently blamed for all world problems from global warming to poverty in Africa. It is very convenient for antisemites today to disseminate their views under disguise of "just criticism of Israel".
As to the last paragraph regarding whether the USA should sell Israel down the river to buy peace and calm from Islamic Nazism - it's for Americans to decide.
Don't forget, however, that Europe tried to appease Hitler in 1938 by giving away Czhechoslovakia to be dismembered and finally conquered by Germany. Munich Agreement became the shameful culmination of their (Europe) refusal to confront Nazi aggression - so they got WWII. The current situation is strikingly similar to that of 1938. Again, the West is willing to sacrifice one small country in an attempt to appease the monster, this time the Islamo-Nazism.
As an old saying goes, - the main lesson the History teaches us is that the History doesn't teach us any lessons.
Dude, the so-called "Israeli occupation" is decried daily and hourly throughout all the world media, forums, organization and what not. I read and hear about more condemnations of Israeli reactions to Arab terror than those against the terror itself. Did UN General Assembly ever condemned killing innocent Israeli civilians by Arab fanatics?
So your question is hypocritic at best.
And while we are at it, what IDF does is trying to protect their own civilians from Arab terror. Should moderate Jewish outcry about it? I doubt it, but still, there's a LOT of left-wing and pro-Arab Jewish activists who do (ever heard about Peace Now?). Much, much more American Jews are anti-Israeli than American Muslims are anti-radical-Islamists.
I hate those weared out cliches used instead of facts and proofs. "Brutal occupation" -- gimme a break!
There should be a comment against Israel in such a topic, but there still isn't one here. How comes? I feel cheated!
The fear that the US government has created of Arabic and muslim people is not all that dissimilar from the fear that the Nazi government of Germany created of Jewish people. Please note though that I do not believe that this is their intent. Do American confiscate Arabic posessions? Do they put all Arabs into concentration camps and gas chambers? You Arabs should stop exploiting Holocaust in your own dirty political purposes (and don't pretend you don't know that Mufty Al-Husseini of Jerusalem was a big friend and supporter of Hitler)
because Israel's alleged WMD doesn't represent a threat to the West - it only serves as a restraint measure against Arab neighbors to eliminate Israel.
Good old Amnisty International counts them all equally -- even those Arab terrorists who blow themselves in laboratories while preparing explosives (aimed at Israeli civilians, by the way).
As to European Union, gimme a break! EU is the culmination of European leftist bureaucracy funded by Arab oil money. And frightened by growing Islamic population in their own countries (France = 20%, Belgium = 10%) etc.
Now, you're telling Arabs are now so brave as not to fear to kill teenagers at a disco or granmas going back home from shopping at the city market? You are calling that "extreme measures"? That is, you consider them a perfectly justified and moral?
I call this losing human nature. And it is caused not by "the decades of brutal treatment by the Israeli Army", but by
- decades of anti-Jewish hysteria, brainwashing and imprinting hatred into brains of Arab kids (starting from kindergarten); this hasn't stopped even after the ill-fated Oslo accords had been signed where Arafat pledged to stop incitement agains Jews and Israel;
- oil money poured into terrorist training camps, amunition, and anti-Israel propaganda
- support by Western leftists, anarchists, communists and antisemites
- pro-Arab position of most Western media conglomerates (CNN, Reuters, AFP, UPI, BBC) which openly glorify and justify Arab terrorism and blackpaints Israel counter-terrorist measures (and anything Israel does to protect their citizen)
And this decades long song about desperation! Aren't you yourself tired of it? Have you ever heard of what it really was to live in a real ghetto, say, a Warsaw ghetto? Or to be put into a real concentration camp, like Auschwitz? Without UNRWA or UNIFIL or anyone to protect you? Have you ever heard of Babiy Yar in Kiev, Ukraine (former USSR) where entire Jewish population of 180,000 people was literally murdered (shot and buried in common graves)?I am not surprised that Arab propaganda managed to take the notion of Holocaust and turn it back against the real Holocaust victims. Modern Arab political thought is based on patologic lies and chutzpa. What I am surprised is to how they managed to poison brains of millions of people around the world to believe that Israel is devil incarnation, root of world evil and the reason of all world problems and disasters.
Just for a change, think about starving Ruanda kids or millions of christians murdered in Congo. These are really starving and really murdered. And then think twice before talking about brutality of Israelis who have to check ambulances at block posts so as to prevent "Palestinians" from bringing explosives and guns into Israeli cities.
Thank you for attention.
"ghettos, " - bullshit. They should stop terror attacks agains Israeli civilians to enjoy freedom of movement between their cities. Each time the Israeli army lifts closure - bang! - next day we get school bus blown up or a crowd of shoppers in a mall. You get the idea. Tell that to your Arab brothers. They should stop killing Jews. That's a precondition. "building walls around them" - we're building walls around ourselves, you stupid moron! so that poor Arabs wouldn't send bombers to our own cities. "and sniping children when they step out of the house" bullshit and blatant lie. Arabs are killing Jewish children on purpose. Those Arab kids who get killed are victims of the tactics chosen by their own Islamic Jihad bandits who operate agains Israeli forces from within populated areas (which is violation of Geneva convention) And there is proven record of cases when they provoked killing their own civilians or killed them themselves to put the blame onto Israelis (and they invited CNN and Reuters journalists beforehand, too!) Go blow yourself, moron!
you're obsessed with Israel aren't you?
"Then I guess we'll be taking out Israel next, for all the UN resolutions they've broken/ignored?" you mean biased unbalanced resolution imposed by Arab and Islamic antidemocratic regimes and those depending on their oil?
|> There is significant anger at the US' |> diplomatic policies which support and defend |> Israel, a state which is in defiance of more |> UN Resolutions than Iraq ever was, and one |> which unlike Iraq was founded illegally and |> in defiance of commonly-accepted rights. I beg your pardon?!
Israel was founded prefectly legally and in accordance with a UN Resolution of 1947.
Which resolution was rejected by all Arab countries and they keep defying THAT resolution by denying the right of the State of Israel to exist. And I believe they should first accept that resolution and only then to require that Israel would obey theirs resolutions (most of which are by General Assembly and as such aren't mandatory anyway).
And, by the way, what is now Iraq was part of Ottoman Empire until WWI then under British rule till 1932, just like Israel (founded in 1948). Why on Earth that makes Iraq more legal than Israel - is beyon comprehension.
"""Israel banning video games that label palastine as a nation before it was taken over in 1948 ? """ The name 'Palestine' (and not palastine you illiterate bastard) was given by Roman conquerors to the territories (The Judeah Kingdom) occupied by Roman army and turned into a province of the Roman Empire. Which (the province) was conquered later in succession, by Crusaders, Ottoman Empire, and finally, by British Empire. (By the way, Britain was given mandate to rule the Palestine by the League of Nations with specific assignment to promote establishement of a national home for Jews in the region, which it didn't move a figer for) All these centuries the region was populated by many nations (e.g Armenians, Greeks). Although Jews were expelled from most of the area by Romans, the still kept continuous presense in some towns (e.g. Safed). The Jewish population started to increase in the late 1800s and continued to grow under British rule. Now, unfortunately, the term Palestinians is stolen by Arab propaganda to denote only Arab habitans of Palestine which is not correct technically, historically and morally.
What we have: (1) Extreme Leftist filmmaker (2) Propaganda Movie expressing "proper" political views (=Leftist) (3) Most of Festival Jury consists of Left-biased American or WestEuropean Bohema figures. Now, the result is rather predictable. I wonder, would a movie, say, made by an Israeli Jewish author about Israeli victims of Arab terror war, however genial, win an award at this noble forum? I doubt so. This is a purely political move by Western far-Left and among other thing, this denotes death of Kahn festival as a cultural event. Next prize goes to a North Korean movie, for sure.
Oh, gimme a break. I just love when people make all extremist equal. I still have to hear about a Jewish extremist to blow up a school bus full of kids or to cut off a head of a captured POW. There are extremists AND extremists. And islamic extremists are the most disgusting.
"It is to do with occupation, repression and desparation. " Bullshit. It is to do with hatred, extremism and fanatism indoctrinated in children from the age 0 troughout the entire Islamic world. And please spell it despEration.
Displacement of Arabs was caused by wars against Israel initiated by neighboring Arab countries. And mass-killing of Palestinians is purely and entirely your fantasy inspired by pro-Arab mass-media brain-washing coverage of Arab-Israeli conflict. Unless you are an Arab yourself - then it has been being implanted into your brain throughout all the educational, entertainment and information system in your country. Too bad.
Well, in a socialist country much more things are much more controlled by the government (=the ruling party) than in any capitalist country. Take a look at North Korea or Cuba for example. And that with added benefit of poor economics. I know - I used to live in Soviet Russia.
any news mentioning the word "Israel" is inevitably followed by a boringly long chain of pro-Arab propaganda posts? Come on, could you guys concentrate on the topic for God's (or shall I say Allah's) sake?