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World's First 1GB Web Mail May Not Be From Google
xPertCodert writes "According to
this article, the world's first 1GB web mail is not going to be Google, but from the largest Israeli web portal. With 30Mb per attachment, it seems to be quite useful as well. Looks like an idea of extra-large e-mail storage is becoming really hot these days."
First 1GB email service? First of all, what is Spymac, chopped liver? They already have a free email service with 1GB of storage.
I'm going to issue a press release... I will be the first person to send data over phone lines. Maybe it will be hardware you install in your computer! Buy my stock!
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Spymac already has a free 1 GB web email service.
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attachments that end in .rar or .r[0-9][0-9] :) I swear, I was only "checking my email".
Spymac.com already offers 1GB e-mail. Albeit, their website is bloated and slow, and they offered it as a response to google -- but they should probably get "first" place.
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...is hearing about these things before they're actually available. Note to Google and Walla!: FINISH THE DAMN BETA ALREADY!!!!!!!
...not sure if it's just open to Mac users though... http://www.spymac.com/
Now, I don't have to worry about disk space if I go out of town for a week and don't read my E-mail. All that spam will no longer fill my 100M E-mail in basket. Of course, it will take a while for Mozilla to sort it all out and move it to my junk folder :)
This definitely seems like an attempt to steal Google's thunder, but you have to ask if an Israel-local portal company really has the global reach that Google has to be able to offer high-performance ad-supported e-mail to everybody.
I'm not quite sure that they're going to have enough non-local ads in order to serve the world in the way that Google now seems pretty confident in its global geotargeting systems.
Sometimes, i check my mail via pop3 on a dial-up connection. If I start getting 30 MB attatchments, I'll be in trouble.
What happened to e-mail ettiquete??
What about Spymac?
--------- Who knows? It is a mystery.
I really needed that for all that spam...
(is that kosher food ?)
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Spymac already offers 1Gig Email for free. Gmail's conversations sound like the most useful feature of their service. beta review
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In other news, world's first 1gbyte spam messages began circulating late yesterday afternoon.
Why a 30MB attachment limit? They could just say 50TB attachment limit and nothing would really be changed since most mail servers have a 5MB attachment limit, at most. Very few of them have a bigger limit.
I'm using an email service hosted in Israel. Might as well paint a big red target on myself.
But..
a) Unknown and unheard of company
b) Physically quite a ways from most wired countries, as opposed to widespread google (Akamai?) servers
c) Israeli only so far, vs. however many localizations (let alone simple translations) google/gmail has/will have.
d) None of the advanced searching/sorting features that Gmail has been promising and actually do sound fairly nice.
Stuff.
1 GB is a lot of information, and it has to cost a decent chunk of money to allocate that much storage for every user, and to pay for bandwidth for 30MB attachments, and for the rack space and electricity. How are web portals like google making back the cost of 1GB email?
I don't know if anyone mentioned it yet ;), but I think spymac has 1gig email accounts.
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Everyone with a Gmail account, including myself, knows that email storage space is not the only part of an effective email system. The Gmail interface is so simplified, efficient, and intuitive, that there will probably not be anything coming out that can compete with it. (ask people who both have Gmail and Spymac and see what they think)
Not only that, but the Israeli service requires money whereas Gmail is free. I am confident that Gmail will be the only truly successful free gigabyte email service.
I am defenseless. Use your button. Mod me down with all of your hatred.
...Claria mail. I wan't to deal with a company I can trust. Like microsoft.
How do I sign up for an account with this email provider if I don't read Hebrew?
You want what with that?
The best thing about 1GB email is that I'll never have to delete a message. Not that I'll search through them either.
:)
But the few precious seconds a day I spend highlighting mails, clicking 'delete' - all gone!
And when my gigabyte is filled with crap I'll just get another account
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These services offering large attachment sizes, how useful can they really be when the majority of users cant recieve the files due to limits set on their mail server?
Sending huge attachments is nice and everything, but it's only going to work if your friend has a gmail/spymac acount (or thier own mail server) too..
Then I discovered that access to that pages ran through the goldenlines isp which I had to block last week because one of their customers keept performing directory attacks agains my mailserver and no one reacted after 3 days. :D
But as a conoiseur of fine pornography, I find that I can barely manage to keep up with the amount of mail I collect through various mailing lists on my own server. Those attachments can really add up!
I think 1 GB is certainly a generous offer, maybe even overkill for the average user, but for their more hardcore clientele, I think this will just be a tempting, but ultimately unsatisfying offer.
I would like to announce that I am now the very first Slashdot user to point out that Spymac.com offers a 1GB email service. That's right, you heard it here first. (and, uhh, don't scroll up.)
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Walla! As of ten seconds ago, lack an english version of their site. That could make registering a bit problematic for some. Too bad xPertCodert didn't have a funny mailto: in their submission pointing to @walla.com :p
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If it's just the First with 1 gig mailboxes wouldn't that belong to AOL? 550 mails with 15mb attachments each. (Over 8 gigs) Mabie it should be First FREE service.
If you did then you would understand why they are a non factor. (HINT: if you can't read hebrew, you probley won't find much use from their portal.)
Well.. maybe. Or Maybe not. But Definitely not sort of.
I signed up for an account, but now all my messages are showing up written right to left!
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Why is it okay to refer to 1000MB as 1GB?
You want what with that?
I just went to Spymac.com and there is nothing there but a dead server.
It's hard to believe that's how Micronians are made. Why don't we see it right now by having you both kiss one another?
Why a 30MB attachment limit? They could just say 50TB attachment limit and nothing would really be changed since most mail servers have a 5MB attachment limit, at most. Very few of them have a bigger limit.
So... if I wanted to make an attachment and my mail server didn't allow anything over 5MB (and under 30MB), I'd be screwed, right?
Wait! There's a free webbased email service that offers 1GB of space and has a 30MB attachment limit!!
Welcome to economics 101... encourage everyone to switch to your product...
Good quote, too many chars. Seriously, the slashdot 120 char limit sucks!
oh shut up.
You goyim are too slow.
is Israel really the kind of place you want to handle your email when they cant even handle each other ?
SpyMac already offers 1G.
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3 years ago I had over 1200 megs of emails, spam, and attachments through my email provider sitting on their server. They never cared, they told me that as long as they have the free space, and that I dont go over 2000 megs, I would be fine. This wasnt a small provider too, it was a company owned by dsl.com.
Is the big difference here the fact that its offered as a 1000 megs of space? Im sure many providers dont monitor disk usage for email if you go through small isp's, Ive never had a problem with them.
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I'm German, so I feel qualified to answer this comment. Given the choice between an Israeli webmailer and Google, I'd choose Google. Given the choice between my measly 25MB account and Google, I'd stick with downloading my mails to a machine I control.
The USA have laughable privacy provisions, but whenever I hear about software from Israel, it's either espionage or war related. Considering that, I don't think I need to hear about their privacy laws before I can make the decision.
(No offense, they're living in a warzone, that's bound to readjust priorities.)
"Walla! VP marketing and business development Galit Lifshits Melamed"
Hee hee.
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Yes! Lets kill those puny dialup users, let's send them a real attachment. They'll be lining up for broadband. Mail all those live CD linux distros to every single AOL user on the planet! And it will be cheaper that using the post office like AOL does. I can see it now "You've Got" and 6 hours later "Mail!"
Well, nonexistant. But it's interesting to be able to navigate a foreign language website by hovering over a link and then reading the destination URL in the status bar.
I have about 7 email accounts. 3 are personal. One .edu, one hotmail and 1 yahoo.The problem is, I use yahoo and hotmail because I can;t get to my mail once netscape pulls it down off the server. On top of that I'm behind a firewall. So anything I need to act on during a work day ends up at a web account.
Sure I could use IMAP, but I get about 200 spam a day, and a 30 meg limit. It's not practical. I need globally accesible email respitory. That's what it is about - access anywhere to your email, in a manner that won't fill up your account. My mozilla mail file is several hundred megs, dating back years. I save it all, JIC. And it helps. Even one old email can make thouse 100s of megs worth it.
If we had a way to store the data on our PCs, then retrive it anywhere, in a consisant manner (meaning Mozilla would place nice with it - and it would play nice with Mozilla (like a shared sent folder)) then I think we'd be 99% happy and not need 1gig of email hosting. It's cheapest on my drive. It's a fixed cost, and I've already paid ot off. 1gig is cheap. ($0.50-$1) (Though it may not be safest, I never back that bitch up)
Slashdot's rate-of-post filter: Preventing you from posting too many great ideas at once.
When in doubt, mod +1 insightful and pray...
The Walla! portal seems to be in hebrew. One of 5000 other languages I don't know...
You have to "wish upon a weinstein" ... :)
So if Slashdot posts an article after the deed is done, people yell "this is not news! It happened, like, yesterday, whoopee!" But if Slashdot posts an article before the deed is done, people yell "too early!"
Sigh! There's just no pleasing some people...
What is this "a dial-up" connection?
Basing this comment on the fact that I have never heard of this company, I wouldn't trust my email to a random company in the middle east to hold any valuable emails. I only see myself using GMail in the future for those newsletter subscriptions, forum email validations, and stuff I want to send home to read later.
People won't be paying retail for the service.
The observations in his post are both accurate and appropriate. But don't let that stop you from histrionic stereotyping of someone you don't even know.
How fast you can up/download it
What you can do to your mail without downloading it
Did the internet suddenly get a lot faster while I wasn't looking? Even at cable modem speeds, it would take at least an hour to move 1 GB up or down from a remote server.
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please let them die
There are places where the networks are not touching,and there are places where they are-Boeing's Lori Gunter
to those to dumb to work a CD-RW. I mean that. I talk to people all the time whose computers are hosed, but they can't format and reinstall because they couldn't figure out how to write their god damned crap to a CD. With this, let'em send an email (they've already figured out email usually) and download the stuff later. Sure, it's a ridiculously dumb, slow way to back up their data. But hey, if they weren't too dumb to figure out thier CD-RW I wouldn't be posting this comment.
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Will the server be taken offline on Saturdays?
get sued over privacy concerns. It really helps to not be an American company sometimes.
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Of course, think of all the international "customers" who will deliberately not choose Walla because of its nationality. Now, if they were Indian or Japanese
I was taking one day at a time, but then several days got together and ambushed me. (from a Rhymes with Orange comic)
Is what kind of anti-spam system Gmail is going to have. I mean, the moment Gmail goes live (and probably already) spammers are going to be targeting every conciveable email address @gmail.com. Anyone who gets a 'good' name is going to get spammed.
But you'd think, they're google, they're going to be really good at looking at information and classifying it, they should be able to get some great anti-spam systems setup. I'd figure that anti-spam would be part of the marketing for any email provider these days.
autopr0n is like, down and stuff.
I wouldn't accept a Palestinian webmailer either, if that is any consolation. I don't think I've ever heard about anything computer related coming from there though, except Earthstation5 allegedly (but most likely not really) operating from there.
I mean, come on, guys, it's not that hard to set up a mail server with a web interface that allows anonymous accounts and gives everyone 1 GB of storage.
Just don't advertise it... and try to keep your number of accounts under about 100, and you're all set. Singlehandedly, you have just defeated both the most successful search engine in history, and the government of Israel.
Oh, man.. now I've got to do that... I wonder how many people would want an user@youhavenochancetosurvivemakeyourtime.com address...
"Beware he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he deems himself your master."
So by that synapse-blistering logic you have, the bombers would then just re-adjust their targets to dorms perhaps...Am I stretching?
Well, the nazis will hate this one for sure.
/. ever. One post!
I think this is the fastest invocation of Godwin's Law on
Who said Freedom was Fair?
You tell them the truth over and over until they eat the whole thing.
So in that vein, HEY MORON. Spymac got 1 gig e-mail already.
Somebody else please repeat this. Send some copies to CNN too.
There is something about the prospect of your computer blowing up when it gets e-mail.
well said
For a start SpyMac offers 1GB data storage, second of all timothy? WTF? Don't you do any research at all?
/.'er can see how stupid this was, it's not even remotely true.
Stupid submitions like this shouldn't make it this far, any regular
Except in this case, it didn't end the conversation. It's like the reverse of it or something.
I'd agree with you that a war of extermination is going on in the Middle East, but it ain't the Palestinians who are doing the exterminating.
The observations in his post are both accurate and appropriate.
This is accurate and appropriate:
I'm German, so I feel qualified to answer this comment. Given the choice between an Israeli webmailer and Google, I'd choose Google.
Without taking into account features, performance, etc. etc. he picks Google based on the fact that the other one is from Israel. This is accurate? How is the fact that he is from Germany qualify him to post that?
But don't let that stop you from histrionic stereotyping of someone you don't even know.
I won't, especially when responding to someone who is doing the same. The only thing I know about him is what they posted. So, I will base my views on the poster based on the only source of information I have: what they provided me.
but whenever I hear about software from Israel, it's either espionage or war related
Guess he's never heard of ICQ?
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Is Walla! Hebrew for Yahoo!?
Personally, I won't be using any Israeli mail service. With Bush & Ashcroft's nifty Patriot Act, I could easily be tagged as a terrorist, and imprisoned without a trial.
One who discriminates against or who is hostile toward or prejudiced against Jews.
anti-Semitic adj.
Israeli buses, of course, are notorious targets for "suicide" (homicide) bombers
The term "homicide bomber" has got to be one of the most idiotic terms ever invented. First of all, it's only applied to suicide bombers, you never hear about bombers who don't kill themselves refered to that way. It's just a euphamism for people who, for whatever reason, belive that calling a suicide bomber a suicide bomber somehow makes their crime less wrong. But it's completely redundant. Why not just call them 'bombers'.
autopr0n is like, down and stuff.
(and English, I might add): THE SERVICE IS NOT AVAILABLE YET. Don't try to find the subscription link. It's not there.
Then you obviously haven't heard of a little group called Hamas, which has a charter calling for the extermination of the Israelis (with text lifted from Nazi documents from the 1930s included in it).
who cares?
This is hardly a big deal. It's merely an imaginary milestone that we think is important, but is really completely relevant. Is this any kind of technical feat? No. Is this even useful? Not for the majority of people.
And besides, as a number of people have pointed out already, the title of "first 1 GB e-mail service provider" is taken.
I'm sorry, did you confuse Slashdot with your personal blog?
Not have big problems against the origin of the company, but maybe things could be slower for US residents or countries that have to connect thru US to reach it, or if it have some kind of success, if their (and maybe their country) bandwidth could handle the load that handles google already.
Without taking into account features, performance, etc. etc. he picks Google based on the fact that the other one is from Israel.
He didn't just object to the service being Israeli in origin, and you know it. He specifically mentioned Israel's history and practices when it comes to software and data processing services. Based on Israel's track record on repsecting the rights of non-Israeli citizens, I'd say his decision is quite wise.
Nice try, though. Now shut the fuck up and let the grownups talk.
You know, typical self-hating Jews and all that stuff you read about.
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Not all types of SPAM are made out of pork. See:
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I think this is the fastest invocation of Godwin's Law on /. ever. One post!
/Captain Literal
"As a Usenet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one."
This has nothing to do with Godwin's Law. He wasn't making a comparison at all, but a joke.
Google getting sued over privacy concerns? If you don't agree to their privacy statement, don't apply. I'm sure everyone who signs up must click a checkbox indicating that they read it.
And it's not like people can't sue other people in isreal.
autopr0n is like, down and stuff.
But expect trouble at Yom Kippur. Seriously.
Uh, no you Zionist fucktard. I said Israelis, not Jews. Maybe you forgot that 20% of the Israeli population is Arab?
Asshat.
Perhaps he meant that as a German, he was well qualified to make anti-semetic statements.
As a guy who had originally submitted the story, I must say, that I have never heard of SpyMac service before... I, also, think that in a next couple of month we'll see an explosion in web-based large data storage offerings from both global and local portals and providers. This will signify a huge change in their business models and offerings and we'll see how people will move not only e-mails but other useful information as well, for example - true world-wide collaboration tools, calendars, phone directories, photo repositories, document storage etc. This is are real threat to Micro$oft as well, since you won't need beefed up Very Very Very Long Horn to do 99% of your daily stuff. As for all those "obscure mid-east country" posts, I have to say that Israel is one of the most advanced country in the world in everything technology related. It has one of the highest broadband internet penetration rates as well so 30 MB attachments make a lot of sense. It is, also, worth noting that any ./ user at any given time is using at least one or two technologies developed in Israel whether it's CPU, instant-messaging service or just a simple router
Uh, yeah, right. Like a 30 MB attachment can't be sent by some other means, like maybe some kind of file transfer application? It's too bad Mirabilis was bought by AOL, because then the poor Israelis forced to hide in their own homes could talk to one another and transfer files are large as they can store without having to venture outside. Oh, wait..
How about all the subtle ways that better technology affects lives? With all that e-mail capacity, maybe a few Israeli students won't have to take the crosstown bus to meet and swap files.
Israeli buses, of course, are notorious targets for "suicide" (homicide) bombers. Students form a disproportionately large number of the bombers' victims. So maybe a life or two will be spared thanks to this service. Am I stretching? Possibly. But it's food for thought, nonetheless.
Yep, thank god for huge email attachments. I, too, would walk the streets and brave suicidal terrorists if all I had to work with was ftp, http, or the other 10,000 methods already out there for transfering files...
What part of "shall not be infringed" is so hard to understand?
P.S.: Do you also like to have hot sex with a mare?
He didn't just object to the service being Israeli in origin, and you know it
You seem to miss the part in his post where he mentions that he is from Germany. What else does that imply?
Nice try, though. Now shut the fuck up and let the grownups talk.
Interesting, do "grownups" such as yourself always talk behind a veil of anonymity? I wasn't persuaded by your post until I read your powerful use of the word "fuck". But now... now I feel you must be right.
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$5 / month hosted VPS on linux = awesome!
Bring out your warez! *dong*
Can you take it?
But it hasn't even been cracked yet.
I have product activation...I'll be reporting you soon.
*pulls out a hex editor.....CRACK*
*Loads it into the cart*
Bring out your warez! *dong*
Karma: Chameleon (mostly due to the fact that you come and go).
Except this isn't really a battle. The Iraqi web-portal isn't giving people an @google.com or @gmail.com account. Much of the reason people sign up for an e-mail service is the domain name. It really doesn't matter how great the offering is, not too many people are going to get an @goat[...].cx e-mail account.
When Google announced its GMail on April 1st I took it seriously and decided to improve my e-mail service offering. It's now accessible over the web, SSL secured, fully text searchable and free. Before it was POP3 only, not secured and not free. I'm going to look into adding IMAP access as well. 15,000KB attachment limit and no storage limits as long as you don't try to use it as a remote harddrive.
You also don't need an existing e-mail account to sign up. Which is nice if you need to sign up for a service and really don't care to give them any real information.
Also, when you delete a message, it's gone.
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A gigabyte of spam in my inbox. I can't wait.
The term "homicide bomber" has got to be one of the most idiotic terms ever invented. First of all, it's only applied to suicide bombers, you never hear about bombers who don't kill themselves refered to that way. It's just a euphamism for people who, for whatever reason, belive that calling a suicide bomber a suicide bomber somehow makes their crime less wrong. But it's completely redundant. Why not just call them 'bombers'.
Not to mention that probably the majority of suicide bombers only succeed in killing themselves (okay, they hurt a lot of other people badly, but I'd rather lose an arm than die). So most of them aren't even homicides.
The only terms I can think of that I hate more than "homicide bomber" are "metrosexual" and "freedom fries".
At least Germany admitted it wronged people. The same can't be said for Israel which perpetrates ethnic cleansing on a daily basis and refuses to acknowledge it's doing anything wrong.
It was bad when Hitler wanted to make Germany a 'pure' state but when every Israeli Prime Minister says the goal is to have Israel be a jewish only state, that's ok.
email attachments, especially binary attachments, don't need to increase in size. they need to be reduced. use something intended to be a File Transfer Protocol.
is that since now you can send larger attachments, you'll tell your friends to sign up so they can recieve them. It's an easy way to encourage existing users to advertise your service.
Ben
Work Safe Porn
he is from Germany. What else does that imply?
Please elaborate.
My mentioning that I'm German was just tongue-in-cheek linguistic glue, but now I do find it interesting that being cautious regarding a company in the middle east is unacceptable behaviour if you're German.
now, i'll be able to store all my porn in my email....heh
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Google is just reselling it with their branding.
The only real news here is that you don't see more companies offering reasonable disk space for their hosting and email in the day of the $79 200GB hard drive.
I went to the site linked from the article.. The portal company is called "Walla", http://www.walla.co.il/.
Just remember, Hebrew is writted right to left.. Now go ahead and translate the page, register for an account, and you're all set..
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Why is it that anyone who challenges Israel's fucked up policies is immediately labeled an anti-semite? Could it be that noone cares about their religion but the way they thrust themselves on the world. I am very sympathetic to the sufferers of the holocaust - it was an EXTREMELY inhumane action that should have never been able to occur. Truman should also never allowed Israel to be created, displacing all of the Palestinians. He was warned that what is happening now would indeed occur. I understand after the displacement of the Jewish people from Russia etc that it would be desirous to have their own nation. The reality is that this Zionist policy has cost thousands of lives and will ultimately lead to the destruction of the Jewish people (remember, you are a minority in that area. You could kill and kill, but the Arab people will outlast you)
The point is Israel - NOONE CARES WHAT RELIGION YOU ARE - JUST QUIT BEING SUCH ASSHOLES!!! ZIONISM IS INHUMANE TO THE REST OF THE WORLD.
Please, no more death to further YOUR people at the expense of others. It is called anti-semetic when someone dislikes Jews, but what is it called when Jews hate everyone else? It is like "White man's guilt" because of slavery. We have "Christian Guilt" due to the holocaust and thus allow Israel to do some very oppresive things. Noone wants to be called anti-semetic for standing up to them.
This is not an anti-semetic statement. I have many jewish friends, have dated a few jewish girls and have no problem with jews in general - just Israeli policies. There are also many Jews that completely disagree with Zionist policies. Please, quit trying to say everyone who doesn't agree with you(Israel) is anti-semetic. Get over yourself, you are not the "chosen ones", you're just like everyone else.
ymmv
Somebody must have stoled your spell checker.
Common sense is often popular...
Believe me, if I started murdering people, there would be none of you left.
Since an overwhelming majority of them favor exterminating Jewish people, they certainly aren't being very rational.
"Look at some non-Western media and see the atrocities that the Israeli war machine is committing."
You mean such "unbiased" sources as Al Jazeera? Sorry, you are buying into antisemitic myths.
"Then you can honestly say whether or not Israel is one of the biggest threats facing the world today."
They are only a threat to complete domination of the Aryan race and realization of Arab goals of subjugation and/or extermination of Jewish people. Now, go back to reading "Mein Kampf". You can get some more ideas there.
I built Indie-Mail so that it would be at least somewhat comparable feature wise to what GMail was advertising. The main thing was the ability to search your e-mails. I'm not aware of any other free services besides Indie-Mail and GMail that have that and GMail isn't out yet. There's also one graphic on the entire site: the logo. Everything else is text. The interface is very intuitive and fast. Google doesn't have the market cornered in that area.
I also don't know if GMail requires an existing e-mail account to sign up. Mine doesn't. I don't require any personal information.
But, I'm waiting for them to go public so I can sign up and compare features to see where mine needs some work.
Ben
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Interesting, do "grownups" such as yourself always talk behind a veil of anonymity? But you're not anonymous? I tried looking up "strictnein" in the phone book so I could track you down and confront you personally, tough guy, but you were nowhere to be found.
how'd this get modded to +2 Insightful?!?!? Are all the non-racist mods taking the day off today?
What do you have against Americans?
Ponder that for a while without giving me the standard 'bullshit' answers.
The parent post did not defend imperialism at all. However, you yourself have given voice to the lies given by Arab imperialists who want to invade and conquer all of Israel.
Who gives a fuck? Godwin's 'Law' is bullshit.
The Mossad will read your e-mail anyway.
It's a war. They're way past the stage where it makes sense to see who started it. Consequently, taking sides based on whose deeds are more atrocious is silly. Every Palestinian suicide bomber and every Palestinian who indoctrinates kids to become martyrs is absolutely misguided as to the way out of this mess. Saying that one side is a warmongering people that should not be trusted does not imply that the other side is any better.
Now, listen. Google's email service is not about the one-gigabyte limit.
Ok, so it's a huge number, and so everybody seems to have stared themselves blind at it, and missed the print underneath.
Google's email service is about having your email searchable. About retrieving old email by searching for a part of it. About eliminating the need for folders, dates, keywords to remember your mail. About a all-in-one-bucket, always-available mail store, that's accessed by searching rather than sorting and browsing.
Forget about the one-gigabyte limit. That's just tweaking parameters that others already have. It's nothing really innovative.
What's really new is their entire approach.
My mentioning that I'm German was just tongue-in-cheek linguistic glue, but now I do find it interesting that being cautious regarding a company in the middle east is unacceptable behaviour if you're German.
The issue is this: why does it matter that from Germany? The only reason one would point it out, and state that they then have a unique viewpoint, is if they wanted to draw attentiont to that fact and imply that them being from Germany would make them not want to trust an Israeli company.
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Hotmail has McAfee, Indie-Mail has McAfee. GMail will no doubt have something similar. However when MyDoom came out my e-mail server was deleting those virus e-mails before the virus scanner was. If you look in the filter list on the Indie-Mail web-site one of the entries is a long string of letters and numbers. That's the signiture I found and used to kill off MyDoom before the VirusScan was updated and took care of it, itself.
The problem with spam protection is that you can't be overly agressive when you're dealing with other people's e-mail. That's why I only use URL filtering. It's very effective and inflicts no collateral damage. The downside is that it has to be manually maintained. But I have enough of the process automated that it's not that big of a deal. It's about 15 minutes of my time every few days to update the filter.
GMail will no doubt be utilizing it's search technology to analyze e-mails reported as spam to make it's system more effective and more automated.
Ben
Work Safe Porn
Spymac hasn't been making a stink about it being the first to offer this service because they're a sham. I see a lot of posts here about not being able to establish an account going back weeks (I remember your post when the gmail article was here).
Are you using it? If so what's your address? I don't buy that they're actually doing anything but building a db of advertising data.
"If you're flammable and have legs, you are never blocking a fire exit." - Mitch Hedberg
Voila !
I invented the 1GB email service.
Al Gore
THAT may give a completely new meaning to spam!
There you are, staring at me again.
Well, since no one has mentioned it yet.
Spymac did it!
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should have 'smart playlist' type folder such as itunes... have a 'work' 'recent' 'most replied to' 'from parents' 'from kids'... All these folders auto sort information via rules you predefine, and mail can be in multiple smart folder entries... it is like a database query, auto updating.
They sounded useless, until i used itunes... they are REALLY usefull to have.
Your silly, baseless comment notwithstanding...
Actually, it's hosted on Linux. Run nmap on it.
Or they would've known about Spymac long ago. Why would you want to use email from a company that doesn't read /.?
This guy posted first. Seems unfair to mod him down.
Or maybe spaetzle!
Mmmmmh, Palestinians.
Suicide bomber flambé!
Is it going to be possible to use these free 1GB email accounts (from Google and others) for storage and distribution of pirated materials?
Could this become the next P2P?
It's in the TOS. "Unless required by law, nobody is getting your information." And since I don't require personal information to get an account, there's not much I can give up.
And the SSL isn't to protect the users from me. E-mail doesn't get stored encrypted. The SSL is for securing the transmission so nobody can snoop on your e-mail while it's being recieved or sent.
There is no point in paying for a certificate. Who is it protecting and how? The self signed certificate protects the users in every needed way. Namely by encrypting the connection.
Ben
Work Safe Porn
If you read the top of the thread, you'll find a comment saying that Nazis must hate this service. It was also the first post under this story, making it an attractive comment to post under (and I'm not even karmawhoring). So I created a transition by mentioning that I'm German and subsequently tried to make it clear that my reservations against this service are based on my impression that the Israeli software industry focuses on certain types of applications. I honestly did not expect someone to think that Germans actually like to label themselves as Nazis, so I refrained from marking it as tongue-in-cheek.
touche
AMEN!
Oh! Maybe not. But you get the picture.
"Letsee, you're probably an Israeli, a young male under 30"
Call me a proud Jew then. Actually, I'm not. However, neo-nazis like you have called me "Jewish" just for insisting that Jewish people, too, have a right to live. I've been called black for sticking up for civil rights for blacks as well.
"Israel is the cause of Middle East instability"
Blaming the victim here is like blaming Blacks in the South for "civil rights conflicts" in the 1960s.
"The only way there will be peace in the Middle East is when Israel owns up to its racist philosophy"
It doesn't have one to give up. Really, the only way there will be peace in the Middle East is when the Arab aggressors adopt a "live and let live" policy, and stop invading Israel.
"Palestinians are a defenseless people that are daily oppressed and humiliated."
Only a neo-nazi would believe this lie. The fact is that the Palestinian government is the true aggressor. They and their allies forced the occupation by their attacks on Israel. Israel would have ended the occupation many years ago if the attackers would have surrendered.
The Palestinians would have been wise to follow the example of Japan in WW2. Like the Palestinians vs Israelis, the Japanese engaged in outrageous unprovoked attacks on the U.S. This forced the US to retaliate. This resulted in the occupation of Japan (like the Israeli occupation of the West Bank and Gaza).
The Japanese were smart enough to surrender, and the US eventually left. If they had insisted in keeping their war going, likely the US would still be controlling the country. The Palestinians, with their continued attacks, are only keeping the occupation going.
They could also learn from Egpyt. Under the rabid imperialist dictator Nassir, Egpyt attacked Israel. This forced Israel to take the Sinai as a buffer zone. Sadat took the reasonable course and said "no, we don't want to exterminate you." Egypt got the Sinai back.
Palestinians have lost much by insisting on an aggressive, imperialistic, and genocidal policy. It would be really stupid of Israel to actually turn over land to a government dedicated to exterminating it like this.
I have a web hosting account with 5 gigs of space and I just set up Squirrelmail on it. I set it so that there's no limit on the size of my mailbox- I guess that means that I have the world's first 5 gig email account?
Username taken, please choose another one.
hmm...
well, I accept that
and I apologize =)
Well, I'm off to find an underling here at work to take out frustrations on!
Casual Games/Downloads
He got all the way up to +4, insightful and informative, until just now he got an overrated.
Just +3.
Anyone who acts like either the Israelis or the Palestinians are completely innocent or completely guilty are lying.
There are no trails. There are no trees out here.
> Anyone who acts like either the Israelis or the Palestinians are completely innocent or completely guilty are lying.
Never attribute to malice what can be blamed on stupidity. or some such quote.
Wow - Zionists sure made a quick effort to mod this out of existence!
We all know that if someone says "Die, Jew!" it is the duty of the Jew to do nothing but grab a shovel and ask where to dig his own grave.
> Please, quit trying to say everyone who doesn't agree with you(Israel) is anti-semetic
Kind of like everyone who disagrees with Bush is unpatriotic at best, a terrorist at worst.
Someone help me out here, this seems like False Dilemma, either you agree or you are [anti-semite, unpatriotic, etc], though there are many 3rd choices.
But it also fits Prejudicial Language pretty closely.
What about Undistributed Middle, Some anti-semites disagree with Israeli policy, the Jews of Israel do not disagree, so if you disagree you must be anti-semite.
Is there more than one way to look at this fallacy?
Are we ever going to start drilling these into our children so they don't get led around by the nose so much?
Not requiring an existing e-mail account, the domain name and the features are what define an e-mail service. I've seen people try to offer hosting packages with gobs of storage space and a tiny amount of alloted transfer. The alloted transfer is what makes a hosting solution worthwhile.
You also can't have 1GB of storage without a reasonably sized attachment limit of at least several MB. 1GB storage isn't a big deal.
Anybody who wants to, can offer that. Hotmail et al don't because they see it as more profitable not to. It's a business model not some breakthru in e-mail services. I've been offering e-mail service with unlimited storage and 15MB attachments for a couple years now. I just recently overhauled it to Indie-Mail.
Ben
Work Safe Porn
i would sign up for an account but i cant read aribic, and google does not translate it.
Non-Western Media?
Like whose? Certainly not the Europeans!
Centuries of antisemitism haven't vanished overnight. European governments (and their largely state-funded newspapers) pursue antisemitic policies at almost every turn: from financial support to terrorist organizations, to wildly biased and inconsistent U.N. policies that single out Israel.
Or do you mean the press in Arab countries where there is no freedom of the press, government-critical journalists are publicly executed, where there are no civil rights and where deviation from religious law can result in the imprisonment of one's whole family?
No country in the world has close to the level of personal civil rights protections. No other country has per-capita the number of publications that the U.S. has. And *every* country in the world (particularly European countries) have a greater degree of government control over their media.
Now what were you saying about non-western media you BBC watching zealot?
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Ask any Palestinian if they're working to "Free their homeland" (which doesn't exist, they're Jordanians for f's sake. The word Palestinians used to mean Jews until the 50's.) or if they're working to exterminate all the Jews, and guess which one they'll answer most often?
Much as I normally jump on the opportunity to jump on America. This one ain't really the Yanks' fault. It's Britains. We owned Palestine. It all started with the Balfour declaration and went steadily downhill from there.
Most of Israel's early leaders were on Britain's list of top terrorists. Things like the bombing of the King David hotel. Those evil bastards really did start the war of terror - and that was before the Holocaust. That just gave them the perfect excuse for sympathy later.
Don't get me wrong I'm not anti-Jew (or other Semite) and I know many Israelis are as aghast at their nations doings as the rest of us. But Israel is an evil fucking state that deserves nothing less than the flames of hell.
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USA: home of the world's largest terrorist training camp.
Antisemitism, hatred of Jews in general is the typical reason for hatred of Israelis. Don't use weasel-words. It is like saying "I don't have blacks. I hate sub-Saharan Africans".
"Additionally, Israel is as much to blame as anybody else for the situation there"
They are sometimes ham-handed, but are the victim here as sure as Poland was the victim in WW2.
"For example, I don't see the PLO bulldozing American civilians."
Interesting link. It happens to go to a page where someone committed suicide in the name of defending terrorism. At least she didn't have bombs attached to her in order to take out schoolchildren on the way out.
Spam across multiple email accounts is very compressible...
i posted this 2 weeks ago but was rejected...
presmike
hmmmm..., i am not german, but i live in germany right now.
my experience is, that the people in germany are neither more nor less anti-semitic than ohter nationalities.
and... sorry, but i am sure that you can find the most national socialists in the usa and nowhere else.
and... its annoying that there are always people, who think, they have to abuse the holocaust for their own lasciviousness.
gn8
At least I can post and reveal who I am. You must hide your anti-semitic anti-zionist views behind a shadow.
/. lobby.
Now what does 1 GB of webmail have to do with the supposed ethnic cleansing that Israel "perpetrates on a daily basis", to which you have provided no proof? Where are those Israeli death camps where the Palestinians are sent to be killed in showers and their bodies burned in ovens?
Israel is a Jewish state, but it acknowledges that there are non-jews there and allows them to follow their own customs. Oh and heck, there are Arab Knesset members...
I suggest you answer the white courtesy cluephone that is ringing in the
30mb attachments? 1GB storage?
NO NO NO NO!!! Email was not designed for this.
furthermore, many email clients are not equipped to deal with attachments to the tune of 30mb. Most notable examples are Outhouse/Outhouse Express. Their attachment limit is somewhere near 1.7mb (for a 36.6Kbps dialup connection) and around 5.4mb for most broadband (most mailservers capped at 128Kbps).
There is a hardcoded timeout interval in there that causes retrieval and sending of a message of that size to fail if it doesn't see EOF go by in a certain amount of time.
do() || do_not();
> Who gives a fuck? Godwin's 'Law' is bullshit.
You know who else would say that? That's right, the Nazis!
I hope they have some good spam filters. 1 gig of spam doesnt sound too appealing
Folks, Americans,
Israel, although trying to become predominantly Jewish, is not the same as saying Jewish or Jew or Semite.
When I say or somebody says, I totally disagree with Sharon and Israel's policy of trying to kill, take away the rights of and steal the land of the Palestinians doesn't have one iota of a correlation to me having a dislike for the millions of Jews who do not live in Israel or who are not Israeli.
Just because you are Jewish doesn't mean you were born in Israel or that you are of Israeli nationality or that someway you are connected to that nation's policy.
Although Israel is trying to recruit Jews of the world to move to or affliliate themselves with Israel, Israel and Jewish are two different things.
Hating Jews for being Jews is ANTI-SEMITIC (and is wrong)
Hating Israel or disliking Israel for being a War Monging Nation is just having an observant view of the reality of what is going on in Israel (and America's support for its policies).
Israel has the best programmers in the world, they probably have the best computer-education system in the world and connecting that with their wealth of Military Background related to the US makes them one of the largest World Powers for over 20+ years.
Do your research. Don't Hate Jews. Disagree with Governments of any religious affiliation that commit hateful wars, even America's own government when they go to war with their neighbors or a people for profit and not in defense but in total disregard of Treaties or of International Law.
The reason I posted anonymously was because I don't have an account with Slashdot and don't care to. I rarely post.
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However, as far as proof of what I have said, why don't we look at the IDF logs which show how many Palestinians have been ejected from their homes, forced to sign papers saying they are ok with this ejection and given little or no compensation for this removal? Let's start with a few recent examples:
http://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/11/05/m
http://www.pchrgaza.org/files/PressR/English/19
http://www.miftah.org/PrinterF.cfm?DocId=3014
http://www.bethlehemassoc.org/land_confiscation
http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,2763,9
Yes, some of the above may seem biased sources but since most mainstream media sources refuse to print this stuff, someone has to do it. Let us also not forget that the mayor of Jerusalem has said on numerous occasions that it is Israeli policy to make Jerusalem a completely jewish city.
I note that as usual when someone says anything critical of Israel they are instantly labeled as anti-semitic or anti-zionist, regardless if the truth is told. How convenient.
I also never said that Israel had death camps. I merely said that it perpetrates ethnic cleansing on a daily basis. Let's not forget the wonderful Absentee Land Law of 1950 which made the statement that any person not on their land as of November 19, 1947(?) would be considered to be absent. The land would be held by a custodian.
In 1953 a new law was passed which said that any land held by the custodian would revert to the state. Voila! Instant land grab since the arabs who lived on the lands were run off during the preceding years, particularly during 1948 when Israel was created, and never allowed to return to claim their land even though the 1950 law said that a person had a right to do so.
No, the arabs did not leave on their own accord as the Isreali government wants people to leave. The people of the various villages were systematically run off their lands. We know this because:
a) contrary to Israeli government claims, no radio message was ever given for the arabs to leave their homes. Not even the BBC, which monitored all radio traffic for the Middle East during that time has ever found any shred to support this claim.
b) Various Israeli leaders, including Shimon Peres in his book, state that David Ben Gurion ordered the removal of arab villages. Ben Gurion had to convince Peres it was perfectly acceptable to do so.
c) Benny Morris has documented evidence of the verbal orders to run the arabs off lands that the Israeli leaders wanted. In fact, Morris states in an interview with Haaretz that he felt Ben Gurion didn't go far enough with the expulsions:
http://list.haifa.ac.il/pipermail/alef/2004-Jan
Now, while I may post anonymously what I say is truthful. I'm not using anonymity to hide.
Maybe when Israel admits to the crimes it has committed, and continues to commit, maybe then we'll talk.
spymac.com has offered free 1gig for weeks now
The BBC is one of the (if not THE) most respected news organisations in the world. Just because it's funded by the licence-paying British public, does not mean it's controlled by the government.
Sure they make mistakes (the people that run it are only human) but it puts crap like Fox News, Al-Jazeera and NTV to shame...
Does anyone else find 1GB of mail an extremely limiting amount? Most days I get more mail than that. So where does someone go to get a 1TB of mail space? I'm working on moving most my mail off my current mail host to my own server but I'm running into the problem that it seems my broadband provider blocks the incoming smtp port.
;)
Just remember boys and girls.. joining every mailing list you see is baaaaad. I can grep for solutions to problems with most opensource projects though.. as opposed to Googling for the same solution.
At what price learning? At what cost wisdom? The price is a man's peace of mind, and the cost is his life.
Some say tomAto, some say tomato. Either way seems fine to me.
So those Palestinians who have been living in Bethelhem and Jerusalem, with family roots dating back over 2000 years, are...Jordanians? Quit your FUD, it helps nobody
This company has been offering 1GB of email for a while.
http://www.sentinare.com/index.php
Walla is starting a 1GB E-Mail service. Really?
(Walla is arabic for "Really?")
That's true. BBC puts Fox News, Al Jazeera and NTV to shame. You'll get no argument from me. I didn't say *all* western press was good press. I said we have the free-est press in the world. And we have the most publications (per capita) in the world.
Name another source of TV news in Great Britain. Sadly the entire country was taken for a ride in the BBC scandal and the sole reason was that Britain has very little alternative press. Per capita Britain has very little news variety.
This would be ok if the BBC was balanced journalism. But its not. It panders to government pressures (hence the recent scandal) and takes a consistently pro-corporate line in its economic reporting, a consistenly pro-palestinian line in its middle east reporting, and is consistently *extremely* conservative on domestic (UK)reporting.
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And it'd still be Spam...
Bill Stewart
New Fast-Compression-only CPR http://preview.tinyurl.com/dy575ks
are you talking about that aggression when hundreds of thousands of Palestinians lost their home and were force to live outside of their country? and those who were allowed to stay became citizens of a country with a religion motivated constitution?
what was it that the last Israeli austronaut said before taking off on Columbia? "As an Israeli I am doing it for all Jews at home and abroad?". What about the non-Jewish Israelis? Talk about being sidelined and casted into second-class citizenship - since day one.
Yes, they are Jordanians, or other arabs. They are not a Palestinian people whose homeland is "Palestine". This is a product of media in the last 50 years.
And that's if you fill the space - while some people can do that overnight (:-), it'll take a while before their average user receives enough email to get close to that much, and the cost of disk capacity is still on a deep dive, so by the time the average user fills their 1GB, it'll cost $1 or $0.50 instead of $2.
Bill Stewart
New Fast-Compression-only CPR http://preview.tinyurl.com/dy575ks
Not to mention it will be alongside the search engine I use almost exclusively.
You're right, they do..
Do you not understand the meaning of the word accurate? He said that he feels qualified to answer this comment, and he most probably does. He also said that he would choose Google over an Israeli company, and that too is probably true. Therefore, his statement is accurate. You should look it up in a dictionary.
It's appropriate, too, because he wanted to say why a German might not want to go with an Israeli service for reasons other than Nazism. So there you have it. Accurate, and appropriate.
But Google means that if anybody puts information out on the net, anybody else can find it, and collect it, and analyze it, and publish it. The Government wants to be able to find out everything about _us_, but they don't want us finding out everything about them, or about the people they're telling us not to like, or about the people they're telling us we should like.
Bill Stewart
New Fast-Compression-only CPR http://preview.tinyurl.com/dy575ks
Arabic and Hebrew are both semitic languages.
Semitism is closely linked to the races residing/resided in the middle east. (it's more complicated than that)
So please stop spreading the zionist propaganda.
It's not Anti-Semitism.
You can call it Anti-Zionism. But since zionism is not a race, but rather a facist set of beliefs, it does not bode well for zionists to say oh PLEASE STOP THE ANTI-ZIONISM. You'll never hear them say that.
These are the same people that claim that Palestine was a barren land when they first got there.
The same people who say that they have a religious right to land, land that is not theirs.
The same people that believe that they can come back after 2000 years and claim land, simply because "this was their land 2000 years ago".
Maybe the romans should assimilate and retake middle earth?
If someone came and took your home from you, killed your ancestors, your children, and uprooted your trees...
I'm pretty sure you'd strap a belt to your chest.
That doesn't make it right.
But we always measure right and wrong from the comforts of our protected and secure lives.
That's something to think about.
All I can say for sure, is that for intelligent people, the cream of the crop, pearson graduates, etc., we still fall for propaganda.
The best defence is questioning the 'truth', and seeking the objective truth (NOT Foxnews or CNN).
whatever
If you're worried about the US, don't be, because they think '.il' means Illinois.
(Yalla is Arabic for "come on")
Of course it's okay! Why shouldn't it be okay? Israel is their land, and they can do with it as they please. They're surrounded by people who want to eradicate them, who will even blow themselves up just to kill a few of the hated Jews, so why should they be forced to include Arabs or Palestinians in their country? Granted, Gaza is arguably Palestinian, so I think Israel should just let it go and become its own country, and keep the troublesome Palestinians out of Israel for good. Jews only. What's wrong with that? I'm not a Jew, and I don't see anything wrong with them having their own land...
Seriously, there is nothing wrong with ethnic cleansing if you aren't killing people. It can be necessary to preserve a culture from foreign hordes. The Palestinians, despite (or because of) poverty, still manage to outreproduce the Israelis. If they let them into Israel proper, soon they'll be the majority race there - just like with the Chinese immigrants in Canada, or the Muslim immigrants in France. They're a human tidal wave of people crashing over those who rightfully belong there. Trying to stop it is not wrong.
How long before this is offered to businesses as an alternative to hosting your own mail? A google logo in every e-mail, or better yet, an IT department that can keyword search every employee's e-mail at once. Who wants to know who said what about who? Scary.
$5 / month hosted VPS on linux = awesome!
Wouldn't the worlds first 1GB webmail be whomever set up imp for themselves on a hard drive larger than 1GB?
Just wondering.
And Spymac already has 1GB email (redundant)
it hasn't been used in a while, but there used to be a fully managed xiafs(don't ask) partition that actually ran via a gateway (coded in perl) that broke up arbitrary data into 32k chunks, hashed them, encrypted them, posted those chunks as comments in stories about to be archived and indexed the whole mess to be displayed as a coherent file structure with pathetic high latentcy.
You could shell in, read the file table (cached) and request files through the normal means. the server would retrieve the comments, assemble them and send them on the way.
The first rev was cruddy- you had to wait on the file to be totally asembled before transfer would commence. somewhere along the line, someone spruced it up to pull chunks in sequence and start streaming the file while waiting on slashdot (slashdot didn't always used to be a lightning quick monster, like it is today).
The point wasn't to see if this could be done, nor to push the limits of middleware or whatever. this was used simply to archive around 4 Gb's of pr0n for the shared delight of a handful of IRC users.
The big three TV news channels in the UK are from the BBC, Sky and ITN. In addition, we can receive CNN, CNBC, Bloomberg, EuroNews, CCTV-9 (China's English News Channel), Fox News, Al-Jazzera, DW-TV (German/English), Star News (Indian) and probably more. Britain is also the home of Reuters.
We have a vast array of national newspapers from all view points. The Guardian, The Times, The Telegraph, Daily Mail, etc...
The "scandal" involving the BBC, Kelly and Gilligan was vastly blown out of proportion. The British public still respect the BBC vastly more than Tony Blair's government, and the Inquiry was called a whitewash by many in the media. The recent "scandal" was caused because the BBC stood its ground against the government and not because it pandered to its needs.
Sure certain BBC articles have slight non-neutral POVs but that applies across the board to all news companies. Humans write articles!
And, the BBC just isn't what you see at news.bbc.co.uk. Look around the web site, there are vast news resources from many countries in many languages. NO other news organisation is quite so vast in terms of what it provides.
IMHO, the UK has some excellent news organisations from all viewpoints.
Your comparing Israel fighting a bunch of terrorists who hide in a country that supports them to Hitler? The same terrorists that strap bombs to their bodies to blow up weddings, restaurants, etc? Oh wait your posting anonymously. -Avi
I mod down so you can mod up. Your welcome.
cheer up though, the israelis have a looong way to go to even scratch the skill in atrocity the enlightened europeans practiced at home and abroad.
When's the last time you had the feeling that any of the editors listened to any of the needs/concerns of their readers?
Outright falsehoods often get posted, with no corrections. But it doensn't matter because, despite professing to be a news site, somehow it's "not really" because it's Taco's hobby site. But why call it a tech news site? Isn't that ignoring the fact that a very, very large chunk of geek population TREATS this site like hard news? A lot of people form their worldviews because of the headlines here, which is the cause for a lot of silly opinions, anti-"M$" lies, etc.
http://www.yousendit.com/ has 1gb attachments already, and a lot of my fellow Google Researchers use it for sending files between each other.
-Christopher Wu
http://www.christopherwu.net/
any news mentioning the word "Israel" is inevitably followed by a boringly long chain of pro-Arab propaganda posts? Come on, could you guys concentrate on the topic for God's (or shall I say Allah's) sake?
Search feature sounds pretty much like what M2 client has:
Search your M2 e-mails for almost anything. A search "sticks" and becomes an access point, so that you can easily refer to it in the future.
I realize that M2 is not free and not web-based, but still it makes Gmail's searching much less of a novelty than someone
The point is that GMail is unique due to the combination of features it has to offer, which among other things include kick-ass UI, search and storage space.
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This is the same retoric that Nazis used to justify the elimination of Gypsies, the mentally retard, the Jews, etc. It was not right in Germany and it still ain't right in Isreal.
Aquiring the disk space is easy. The hard part is paying for the bandwidth to make that space useful.
Life in Orange County
Nah. They're liars. Anyone who would say that either side is "the true aggressor" gave up reality for rhetoric a long time ago.
Whether they're lying because they think it's justified for their cause, or just because they're trolling is a separate matter.
There are no trails. There are no trees out here.
someone connecting through the proxy. And that proxy having the private key.
The private key is never given out so yes, this does prevent man in the middle attacks. You can't use the key given to clients to decrypt the data stream.
Ben
Work Safe Porn
go suck on some Zyklon-B you filthy kike
At least Germany admitted it wronged people. The same can't be said for Israel which perpetrates ethnic cleansing on a daily basis and refuses to acknowledge it's doing anything wrong.
It's wrong to defend one's self against constant terrorist attacks by those that want your complete destruction? Name one instance of the 'ethnic cleansing' that you allege Israle perpetrates daily. Israel may have forced people out when it was established but it's not forcing anyone else anywhere nor are they systematically killing anyone. I can understand why ill informed people and lazy thinkers buy into the Palestinian propaganda about Israeli atrocities. They're very clever at it and who doesn't support the 'underdog'? I was in Germany two weeks ago and while everyone I met was very sheepish and apologetic about WWII, their media was different. I saw many allegations of Israeli atrocities on tv without questioning any of the actual facts. Clips of Palestinian kids throwing rocks are intercut with clips of Israeli tanks and soldiers firing big guns. Several Germans I talked at the bar said that Israel was no better than the Nazis for systematically shooting 'civilians' and kids. The Germans and Europeans in general have been particularly egregious in this because it palliates their guilt over the Holocoust. E.g. Jews are just as bad as the Nazis and deserve whatever they get. Israel has never deliberately targeted civilians which is not to say that they never kill civilians. However, even the Geneva Conventions recognizes that civilians casualties are allowed if the force used against legitimat targets is proportional to the threat or value of the target. Israel completely defeated Egypt, Jordan and Syria in 6 days; if Israel really didn't care about civilian casualties or were even half as monstrous as terrorist apologists accused them of being, there would be a lot more dead Palestinians.
It was bad when Hitler wanted to make Germany a 'pure' state but when every Israeli Prime Minister says the goal is to have Israel be a jewish only state, that's ok.
The ironic thing is that the Palestinians who live in Israel have the most rights and freedoms of any Muslims in the Middle East. So for you to equate Hitler's genocidal quest for a 'pure' state with Israel's desire to have a state with a Jewish identity, especially after the Holocoust, either makes you an idiot or an anti-semite or both.
Yawn. All the standard talking points of AIPAC. The lies won't cut it anymore, Zionist.
And the Israeli military are terrorists to many Palestinians. Numerous times have Israeli attempts to eliminate Palestinian terrorists resulted in the deaths of innocent bystanders.
An eye for an eye makes the entire world blind. In the words of Rodney King, "Can't we all just get along?"
I don't get how 1 gig of Google and others' E-mail is supposed to be so Earth-shattering when sites like www.skizzle.com give you virtually unlimited space for free. I have just over 2 gig of files in my Skizzle briefcase (organized as files, not E-mail)... and I've had the account for a couple of years now. You can even do file sharing clubs with no known storage limits. You'll really impress me when you can let me mail a burned CD to a service and they place them in my folders for me.
when every Israeli Prime Minister says the goal is to have Israel be a jewish only
Yeah, that would be atrocious if any prime minister ever said that. No prome minister of Israel ever said the goal of Israel is to be "jewish only." In factt, israel has given Arabs, including Muslim Arabs, Christian Arabs, and non-religious Arabs, numerous rights including citizenship and the right to vote. Yemenites have an extremely good relationship with the Israeli government and are crucial in their military intelligence
Israel is a state built on cooperation. The problem is there are extremists on both sides that dont want to cooperate. My grandfather and grandmother fought for the independence of Israel (after fleeing from Nazi Europe). My father fought in the six day war, the yom kippur war, and the war of attrition. Despite this, we are by no means patriotic or die hard Israel. We hate the current Israeli government jsut as much as many college liberals. The problem is, Israel is a coalition government where the extremists can either make or break a government. The real war in Israel is between religious jews (who make up less than 5%) and secular jews (who make up the rest). Secular jews are, generally, pro-peace and, inherently, anti-strong religious dogma. Its the religious taht refuse to compromise.
Its not like America where there is a reform, traditional class. Still, though, Israel does not aim to cleanse itself of all Arabs as Hitler did with Jews. Israel has given Arabs better rights than most ARAB coutnries, including Jordan (read: Black September when PLO tried to execute a coup on King Hussein), Syria (who just sends them all to lebanon or to fight israel, mainly cause they dont want refugees in Syria), Egypt (Nassir oppressed palestinians more than any israeli prime minister ever did), etc.
This does not jsutify the ongoing war. Like I said, most secular jews want peace in some form or another. Its the damn extremists (but then again, it always is). I think that winning the six day war was teh worst thing that ever happened to Israel, since its the root of most of the problems today. Its what turned Israel from defender to occupier.
the byproduct of years of oppression by the white man
they offer a free 1 gig email account with pop3
http://www.spymac.com/network.php?p=tour
Let's see. A foreign government has run me off my land, prevents my relatives from going back to the homes they were thrown out of by that same government, gives the confiscated land to its people, makes laws which prevent me from buying land or moving into a house wherever I want, puts my people (not me personally) in camps, publicly states that its goal is to create 'facts on the ground' to prevent the original inhabitants from returning, stands by and does nothing as its citizens destroy orchards and farms that the people there have had for decades, takes water which is on someone elses land and gives it to its own people, randomly imprisons people without any charges or suspicions of wrongdoing for months or years, I guess I'll just sit back and take it.
Yes, the analogy to Hitler is perfectly acceptable since the policies that Hitler used against not only jews but homosexuals and political opponents are the exact same policies that Israel is now using against the Palestinians.
And so what if I post anonymously. So far no one has refuted anything I've said. All that has been done is to attack the messenger rather than the message. Typical when the truth can't be refuted.
Oh, one other thing. The word is you're.
As another poster replied...
:)
If an animal isn't killed in the right way or there isn't proper rabbinical supervision, it won't be considered kosher. I know, as I keep kosher and I never even see kosher turkey products in the store, I have to go to a kosher grocery downtown to get it...
But as you probably implied, pork can't be kosher, no matter what.
Numerous times have Israeli attempts to eliminate Palestinian terrorists resulted in the deaths of innocent bystanders.
Perhaps those innocent bystanders would not have died if they were not standing in front of Israel's targets.
1. Use civilians as shields when the army comes
2. ?????
3. Profit! (by world's opinion when the enemy kills the bystanders)
This is the first time that I have ever seen a site get /.ed after there url was posted in the _COMMENTS_ of a slashdot post. shessh...
Seriously though, I have been a member of spymac for the last year or so; and in that time there website has just gotten slower, and slower. It's just another php behemoth.. just waiting for a denial of service attack. And sadly they have focused more, and more on making a buck. They sell hats, laptop bags, premium ad free accounts, hosting, weblogs, auctions, idisk storage, and advertising.
I don't know, I'm not against them turning a profit... but still. It went from being a nice medium sized message board/image gallery that was simple, and fast - to this slow website that offers a ton of services-slowly.
And there e-mail? OMG, I tried sending out 4 different attachments that were each about 1500KB each. It took forever!!, and receiving large files takes even longer. It is obvious they don't have the capacity.
Parent admits he's served in the Israeli army. Anything he says should be taken with a grain of kosher salt.
Ever notice in the AOL ads that they advertise "Unlimited Email & Internet"? Well, it's true, AOL users have NO STORAGE LIMIT.
...and AOL has been doing this for years!
So, in theory, you could transfer DVD ISOs of Linux across AOL mailboxes without difficulty.
What the German said was clearly NOT anti-semetic.
And what McAddress said was clearly not funny.
Naturally McAddress was modded +5 Funny. Moderation here is completely worthless.
.sigs are for post^Hers.
Arabs and Jews as well as others are all semitic.
Arabic and Hebrew are both semitic languages.
google it, you'll find out for yourself
They are trying real hard though....
Nothing like ignoring history and repeating the mistakes of the past.
I just made a GMail account yesterday. I'm in the beta. It's kinda hard to beat them to the punch if they're already doing it.
Has anyone tried offering a similar service with the Google Appliance? http://www.google.com/appliance/
What's your hotmail account ?
that and the fact i can't read their frontpage (hebrew, i think) : It's a worthless 'first' at it.
Can I laugh at you when your system is slow as shit because you implemented ide/sata raid system for 1 million users?
Scsi and fiber channel is the only way to go and it is NOT cheap yet.
If you're a fan of women, add me to your friends list.
Right, just give those MOSSAD bastards the keys to your appartment, while you're at it.
Well, I probably am replying too late for anybody to care, but here goes anyway...
What I don't understand is how all these people can claim that 1GB is enough space that you'll never have to delete your mail. For a comparison, the last time I looked, my boss's Outlook personal folder is approximately 1.2GB in size. That's in addition to her quota on the mail servers. (I don't know what that is as the exchange servers are administered by corporate.) I think mine is approximately 150MB and that's only about 3.5 months worth of email. Basically, I'll concede any day that 1GB is a lot of space, but it's certainly not enough for a lifetime.
If Murphy's Law can go wrong, it will.
Sad, you are a victim of false propaganda.
Or, a knowing perpetrator of it.
Read any unbiased history.
But, you are a bigot, so it's hard to expect you'll be capable of being objective.
With respect to 1G email storage and 30Mg limits...
Just as many family emails go out now with a picture or two, folks will soon want video email attachments. Not to mention the pr0n industry! This seems to be getting the hardware and software in place and allow for tweeking later.
Maybe Peter Jackson will just email the dailies of King Kong, or the next movie, to himself and others in far flung countries, instead of carrying them around in his iPod.
These are some of the things molecules do...... given 4 billion years -Carl Sagan
Message is clearly fascist zionist propaganda.
Terrorism isn't extermination.
The bulldozing of people's homes and walling off of their farms is. This is the new holocaust, ironically perpetrated by the victims of the last one. Look at Israel's borders when it was created. Then look 30 years from then. Then look at it now. They are close to literally pushing the Palestinians into the ocean.
Try reading the accounts in the Japanese (or, I haven't read it myself but would be interesting to know), Chinese-language press, say Taiwan's.
You going to say that the Japanese press is burdened by anti-semitism too?
It's a big world out there.
And before you call somebody a zealot you might want to take a long look in the mirror.
We all know its happening. Thanks to the Internet, control of the media no longer means control of reality. Google for Israel and see what I mean.
No, that's all going to weapons for exterminating Palestinians. This is private industry.
You can also connect to SMTP through port 28 since my ISP also blocks port 25.
I should probably post that info publically since it is a selling point for the service as most e-mail servers don't run on alternate ports.
Ben
Work Safe Porn
We all know Palestinian extermination is happening. Thanks to the Internet, control of the media no longer means control of reality. Google for "Israel + bulldozers + wall" and see what I mean.
We all know the Palestinians deserve it though. Anyone that disagrees is an anti-semite. You aren't an anti-semite are you?
Anyone else think that it's ironic (would be funny if not for the genocide) that the victim of the last holocaust is perpetrating another one? And that the U.S. is funding it? I guess the last one is sad rather than ironic.
I hate genocide, not jews.
I hate theft of land, not jews.
I hate massive injustice, not jews.
I hate outragous human rights violations, not jews.
If you want to link hating the state of Israel with being anti-semitic, then thats your problem.
The AC has a point. We need diversity in the Middle East. Arabs and Jews are the same race!!! Why can't they live together??
They could have a pretty good society if they stopped murdering each other's women and children!
My other car is first.
Wow... I didn't know a 1Gig mail tidbit could make a self-proclaimed geek community lash out with such blatant hatred.
But since it's out there...
I'll make it short,
200 years ago, Jews are scattered throughout Europe, banned from all guilds, Jews are forced to practice trade and commerce.
100 years ago, Jews are thriving, strangely enough relentless persecution follows, the sought after euphoric notion of coexistence diminishes. MY ancestors seek sanctuary.
50 years ago, Jews have been slaughtered by the millions, NO MORE!
MY forefathers built me a HOME, Israel.
Putting aside the biblical records of Jewish settlements; legitimately occupying a 470 Kilometers strip of land (Size) is crucial to our survival and sovereignty.
I am 23 years old, I've volunteered 4 years of my life to DEFEND my only HOME, just like my father, and my grandfather before him, have we not done so, Israel would have been bereft of its existence. (Israeli wars)
I spent my first 2 years in the army learning how to dismantle and operate an assault rifle in a heartbeat, walk 50 miles packing 100 pounds of gear, and adhere to the strictest rules of ethical conduct. I spent the rest of my service operating indigenous strategic positioning and command systems (Westwood beware).
I'd much rather have spent my best years partying in college...
But I was left with no choice; we've learned our lesson, Jews must fend for themselves, unwillingly we have to relay a strong message to the world:
You don't FUCK with Israel.
Our survival depends on it. (Green=Foe)
You could even set up your system with all the requests being sent to you via coded port knocking.
Of course it would be easily spoofable.
...it's the breathtaking amount of bandwidth and huge number of servers vs what appears to be one overloaded machine at the end of a glowing piece of barbed wire.
It certainly defecates on hotmail from a substantial altitude.
Got time? Spend some of it coding or testing
To Fark or Slashdot? The answer is 'yes' for both.
:)
For Fark ('TotalFark'), you get access to all the submissions, not just the ones they decide to accept. What this means is you get access to a lotta boobies links before they get, well, farked.
Same deal with Slashdot - stories are accessible before the general populace can see them, so you have a chance to check out a site before it gets pounded into oblivion. Plus you can choose not to see ads. And, even cooler for those like me, you can access ALL of your previous posts (I've got over 1600 posts going back years). One of these weekends when I'm feeling really bored, I intend to go back through them all and save the ones I wish I had saved in the first place. I crack myself up, you see.
No, he means that as a German, Israeli security services and military have saved his citizens many, many times. And as a straightjacket model/German, that means he must hate them.
Neither of which Google use. They use zillions of cheap boxes; not some fancy expensive thingy you seem to be advocating.
Whether using Microsoft Entourage or Apple's mail.app, my mail is fully searchable.
If that's google's new thing, then they don't anything.
I find it amazing that out of all the responses to this post, there was not one that said I was wrong, although there have been over 10 mod points used to knock me to zero. Is there a Zionist that can justify their views? Or are all of you going to passive/aggressive(ly) disagree by modding? No wonder diplomacy is done with bombs in Israel. You have no basis for your genocide other than Israeli greed. Please, make me understand your position. Give me the intellectual basis for my err. I have tried to understand - I really wanted to support Israel, I mean we give so much money to you guys and take so much shit because of our support for you, I really wanted to get behind the cause. I am obviously missing the point, because all of the research shows you are murdering bastards. Here, look at these stats:
Israeli children dead = 106 | Palestinians children dead = 535 |||| 6322 Israelis dead | 25601 Palestinians dead
This is what "God" wants? This is fair? This is fighting terrorism? This is true anti-semitism.
PLEASE make me understand, if I am so wrong, please tell me why so I don't look like such an ass. My aim isn't to hurt, but to find truth and understanding - if I am wrong and you can show me why then I have learned something.
ymmv
I went to the site mentioned, followed link or two and found myself on Spymac, a cooperative effort by Apple and Disney, that I signed up on and immediately got a 1GB Mailbox +
250 MB of space to upload pictures in the Spymac Gallery
100 MB free space on Spymac Hosting with WebDAV access*
Free iCal Hosting (both public and private)*
Access to the Spymac Forums and Shoutbox
Your very own Spymac Blog*
Access to the Spymac Auctions
The ability to create your very own personal Gallery and Forum
So, what's the big deal about the Israeli's, who are two months away, or Google (when did they say?)? It's here right now.
Oh, the account is accessible via POP/SMTP as well. Not too shabby so far.
The site does need some tightening up, there are way too many errors going from page to page and its spell checker just errors out and you lose your mail. but hey, like I said, just use the pop/smtp and get around that for now.
I'm telling everybody I know about this, who knows when they'll run out of space/bandwidth? (It already seemed sluggish.)
--- Be careful when you do unto others as you'd have done unto yourself, their tastes may differ!
Keeper of the terrible karma ---
Because we all open every attachment that arrives in our email, right? Have you heard of something calle d a virus?
-Rich
Whatever. It is clearly hatred of Jews.
"But since zionism is not a race, but rather a facist set of beliefs"
It is not "Facist". It is nothing more than the idea that Jewish people have a right to live free.
"Maybe the romans should assimilate and retake middle earth?"
It is by now quite clear you are living in fantasy land. Are you plotting the sequel to "The Return of the King"?
"seeking the objective truth (NOT Foxnews or CNN)."
Like www.natvan.com ?
Hamas openly calls out for the extermination of all Jews. "Lying down"? If the Palestinians had done this, there would be NO occupation. It is the unrelenting Palestinian aggression against Israel which has forced the aggression (just like Japan's attacks against the U.S. forced the U.S. to occupy Japan).
"Most of Hamas' activity is in charity"
Only in the perverted, savage, and bloodthirsty mind of the modern Palestinian is the gift of dismembermemt to a Jewish schoolchild "charitable".
The ideologies are clearly not the same. On one side (Israel), you have the ideology of "we want to be left to live in peace". On the Palestinian side, you have "we want to exterminate you and take over all your land". If this was WW2, Israel would be like Poland and the "Palestinian" government would be like the Nazis (never mind the coincidental goals of exterminating Jewish people).
"The link I posted was to show evidence that you can dislike the state of Israel and its policies without being anti-semitic."
You CAN'T. Typically, those who hate Israel hate it it because it is Jewish, or they have bought into lies told by neo-nazis.
Oh, wait. It's actually 288 sheks with the VAT. Can't forget that.
Anyhow, it's hardly free and hardly 1GB!
"Avoid employing unlucky people - throw half of the pile of CVs in the bin without reading them." -- David Brent
So I don't care if I reply to myself. But I just reread the site and the 269 sheks includes tax. The 288 NIS figure was if you pay monthly for the whole year. Ahhh well.
"Avoid employing unlucky people - throw half of the pile of CVs in the bin without reading them." -- David Brent
it'll take a while before their average user receives enough email to get close to that much
Not to mention compression. A huge amount of mail must be duplicated thanks to spam, group-mails, and copious forwarding of jokes and petitions.
It's hard to feel sorry for someone who was willing to sacrfice her life to prevent the demolition of smuggling tunnels used to bring weapons to terrorists so they could better kill innocent cilivilians.
Check the facts - from where she was situated, there was no way the bulldozer operator could see her.
When these "peace" activists start protesting Palistinian terrorist attacks as much as they protest Israeli attempts to defend their country, there might be a slightly better chance for peace.
during dotcom years http://www.crosswinds.net/ was offering UNLIMITED web space and email ... i never used it much because of continuous login&co problems, but i know people which had more than 1GB of data there.
"There is nothing more frightful than ignorance in action." Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
A coworker recently ran nmap on it (my company provides a competing service and we wanted to find out more about it) and here's what he reported:
Starting nmap 3.50 ( http://www.insecure.org/nmap/ ) at 2004-04-22 23:04 EDT
Interesting ports on secure.spymac.com (213.218.8.109):
(The 1646 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: closed)
PORT STATE SERVICE VERSION
22/tcp open ssh OpenSSH 3.8p1 (protocol 2.0)
25/tcp open smtp Postfix smtpd
80/tcp open http Apache httpd 1.3.27 ((Unix) PHP/4.3.2 mod_ssl/2.8.14 OpenSSL/0.9.7a)
111/tcp open rpcbind 2 (rpc #100000)
135/tcp filtered msrpc
136/tcp filtered profile
137/tcp filtered netbios-ns
138/tcp filtered netbios-dgm
139/tcp filtered netbios-ssn
443/tcp open ssl/http Apache httpd 1.3.27 ((Unix) PHP/4.3.2 mod_ssl/2.8.14 OpenSSL/0.9.7a)
445/tcp filtered microsoft-ds
10000/tcp open http Webmin httpd
32770/tcp open mountd 1-3 (rpc #100005)
Device type: general purpose
Running: Linux 2.4.X|2.5.X
OS details: Linux Kernel 2.4.0 - 2.5.20
Uptime 36.913 days (since Sun Feb 29 16:28:06 2004)
Nmap run completed -- 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 48.450 seconds
The information you fill out on Spymac is only a total of around 15 fields over 2 pages. Don't know where you got this 'six pages' thing..
You only need to fill out the other parts of the profile if you are planning on paying for the hosting service or selling in the auctions.
The account activation only takes 2 weeks because all you non-Mac users came and shat on the servers. Activation was immediate before the 1 GB email was announced,
As far as things not working, check the forums, they're working on it. It's a community site, where people actually want to build something everyone can enjoy. The admins are working on it, upgrading the system and the servers. This will take some time. We can have patience, why can't you? It's not like it's your main email account all of a sudden.
I had a Jewish roomie who was convinced I hated her and "her people", and branded me forever as an "Anti-Semite", because I once criticized the actions of Ariel Sharon.
I don't hate Jewish people. I don't hate Israelis either. But Israeli state policy is not necessarily the same as the personal policy and philosophy of Jewish people.
I hate much of what the Israeli state says and does, just as I despise the carnage resulting from the actions of Hamas suicide bombers. But just for disagreeing with Isareli state policy (therefore "Israel" and "All Jews") I will be branded a "Jew-Hating Nazi-sympathising Fascist" forever by many reactionary and extremist Jews and Israelis.
The words and deeds of Palestinian fanatics make Arabic people look bad to the rest of the world. Israeli state policy and behavior makes Israel look bad to the rest of the world.
Naturally this post will instantly be modded down to -1, Flamebait, or Troll, or Aryan, or whatever. But those that do the modding should understand that such a score and fate doesn't reflect poorly on me.
Don't know where you got this 'six pages' thing..
I got it from the fact that I had to click through six slow, slow, pages before I was 'done' signing up. True, you aren't required to use factual information or any information at all, but there's no reason to think that this is the case when presented with page after page of blanks. Even Yahoo! has the decency to put it all on one, maybe two, pages.
The account activation only takes 2 weeks because all you non-Mac users came and shat on the servers.
I don't know who you're referring to when you say "all you non-Mac users", given that I'm a Mac user.
As for shitting on the servers, I think you're referring to Spymac's inability to handle the demand brought on by their stupid PR move. Sure, I understand how hard it is to predict how bad the load from something like that will be, but it's Spymac's mistake, not the new users'.
As far as things not working, check the forums, they're working on it.
And obviously they're so busy working that they can't put a notice somewhere outside of the forums (like maybe in the Support section, or on the front page) that says "Hey, sorry, but half of the services we claim to offer don't work right now, but we're working on it.", so that I don't have to wade through half a million Mac vs. PC flamewars just to find out that I can't actually use the services I came there to use.
It's a community site, where people actually want to build something everyone can enjoy.
In my admittedly limited experience with the Spymac community, it seems like that something consists primarily of juvenile flamewars, "Me Too!!!" posts to boost one's activity score, and a dose of anti-Chinese racism.
To each his own.
Don't become a regular here -- you will become retarded.